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Some searches (particularly those concerning error codes) in DDG show that they're in a "partnership" with Yandex, a known Russian company.
Just a heads up, DDG may be sending data to Yandex.
▶ No.818760>>818902 >>821811 >>840763
>>818758 (OP)
>a known Russian company
muh Russia!!!!
▶ No.818768
https://duck.co/help/results/sources
It's a proxy, so if it's werks well, yandex and bing don't get metadata.
▶ No.818770>>818775 >>818785 >>818787 >>818789 >>818790
>anyone using DDG instead of Startpage/Ixquick
Shake my fucking head.
https://8ch.net/tech/ddg.html
▶ No.818775>>818789
>>818770
>using a google mirror
You should hang yourself just the same.
▶ No.818777>>818785
>>818758 (OP)
We knew this since forever.
>Muh Russia
Have you neglected the obvious Judaism of DDG?
▶ No.818785>>819137 >>819192 >>819201 >>820284 >>831138 >>839696 >>849631
>>818770
>the founder did something bad a long time ago so everything he does is bad
This is not a valid criticism.
>it used to set a tracking cookie by accident
Does it do that still? No? Then it's irrelevant.
>it's US-based so the NSA... bla, bla
Your ISP, DNS server and most websites you connect to already keep logs of the shit you do on them. The government (especially the US and EU) can request that information. There's not much you can do if you're an enemy of the State anyway.
If you're paranoid enough to care about logs, you'd be using Tor and/or some sort of VPN/Proxy anyway; so this point is also irrelevant.
>>818777
>muh joos
Back to your designated shitposting board, /pol/jeet.
▶ No.818787>>818791
>>818770
>There's no confirmed proof that DuckDuckGo is violating your privacy,
Meanwhile at startpage...
▶ No.818789>>818791
>>818770
>>818775
>dealing with slower search or stupid results (DDG) just to LARP as a secret agent
<can’t let the nsa know that I watch animu
▶ No.818790>>818811
>>818770
>not using one of the many instances of Searx
Use what the FSF would use, faggot.
▶ No.818791>>818838
>>818787
What is that supposed to prove?
>>818789
DDG is pretty fast tho, and it has decent results. A lot better than Searx, Bing and Yahoo!; that's for sure.
▶ No.818806>>818809
>>818758 (OP)
doesn't matter if it's used over tor
you can't trust any of them anyway
▶ No.818808
DDG can search on another search engine without revealing anything about you. All the other search engine knows is that DDG searched for something. You can take off your tinfoil hat. Meanwhile, Startpage sometimes actively interferes with or blocks searches from Tor browser. That's why a lot of privacy-minded people stopped using them.
▶ No.818809
>>818806
t. Someone who knows nothing about Tor
▶ No.818811>>818814
>>818790
The FSF uses DDG. GNUzilla Icecat has DDG by default enabled.
▶ No.818812
Also, note that Agent Fud is constantly trying to scare people away from DDG, Tor, strong encryption, etc.
Now why would he be doing that?
▶ No.818814>>818817
>>818811
You're full of shit.
I have no idea to what repo you're referring to, because the IceCat from Parabola comes with https://searx.laquadrature.net as default search engine.
▶ No.818815>>819675
>not using bing to blend in with the normalfags
sad
▶ No.818817
>>818814
I'm referring to the tarball found on GNU's very own FTP server: https://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/gnuzilla/
▶ No.818830
I've been using Bing exclusively for about a month tbh. I don't see the hype.
▶ No.818838>>818849 >>819250
>>818791
Why is a simple search for 'car' showing localized results for nordic anon?
▶ No.818844
>>818758 (OP)
Everyone on /tech/ knows this and most of us don't use DDG.
I hope so
▶ No.818849>>821856
>>818838
If you look for a store that only exists in, let's say, Argentina using a non-localized version of Google you could end up with a bunch of irrelevant and stupid results; especially if the thing you searched for is a common word or an acronym.
Startpage may be using the IP provided to search on the localized version of Google. This is the most they can do to show relevant search results without giving any information away.
You should, of course, ask them directly if it bothers you that much.
▶ No.818902>>818918
>>818760
Fuck off
(((modern Russia))) needs to die.
▶ No.818918>>819648
>>818902
>(((le scary parentheses)))
/pol/jeets need to die.
▶ No.818921
Post about *any* good privacy/security measure, and Agent Fud will be there within minutes to blow smoke, shovel bullshit, and parrot "it's compromised, it's compromised, awk..." over and over. It would be comical if so many poor n00bs weren't so confused by it.
▶ No.819015>>819057 >>819127 >>819217
>>818758 (OP)
>duckduckgo
>pic related
>owned by (((domains by proxy)))
Lurk moar faggot OP. No shit shirlock. It's been known they are compromised for some time now. They still give better results than jewgle though. Just realise that certain words catch the attention of the robot generating domain's of the cianigggers.
▶ No.819057>>820420
>>819015
What's the point of MITMing your connection if *insert spook agency here* already has tap on DDG servers? Anybody in possession of legit CA servers can issue a certificate even for Google and do exactly the same, unless you pin them on first visit. But isn't that counterproductive? It seems that they added new certificate with Extended Validation and forgot to turn off older one.
>not visiting 8chan and DDG exclusively over tor
Ha, gotcha, Agent Smith!
▶ No.819059
Forged CAs are generally unlikely to be used except in very specific, targeted situations as there's a lot of risk to everyone involved if caught and it's not hard to catch it. Don't expect to see them used for mass surveillance.
▶ No.819088
>may be
Lurk 50 years before posting
▶ No.819106>>819117 >>819136
I don't trust DuckDuckGo, I don't trust ixquick/startpage. You shouldn't trust nobody.
I search them using TorBrowser. When you use Tor, you don't need to trust them. Unless you type your name in search query, they aren't tracking you. They just get queries, but they don't know who makes them.
▶ No.819117>>819134
>>819106
>implying searches arent even more biased for Tor users
>implying Tor can be trusted
>implying you're not reddit-spacing
▶ No.819127>>831138
>>819015
>muh parentheses
>muh cianiggers
You need to go back.
▶ No.819134>>819136 >>819139
>>819117
>implying Tor can be trusted
for sure more than your ISP can be trusted, or some honeypot VPN. At least Tor works by design, not by trust
if you don't use Tor, your web browsing history is being recorded by ISP and police. Also every website can see your IP address. And IP addresses are registered to home address.
>implying you're not reddit-spacing
I am, you mad bro?
▶ No.819137>>819143 >>819149
>>818785
>t. faggot crying about russians
I can understand crying about the chinaman but crying about russians makes you look like a fucking idiot.
▶ No.819139>>819149
>>819134
>VPNs are honeypot
>implying Tor isn't
VPNs work by design as well, and they are designed after AAA.
The only issue is making sure that the Accounting is managed by you and not someone else.
Also, please, keep reddit-spacing, so that your dementia can be recognized by everyone.
▶ No.819143
>>819137
>GAD EMPRAH said le Russians are le good so it must be true XDDD
Kill (((yourself))).
▶ No.819149
>>819139
VPNs were never designed for anonymity, it's just an encrypted channel between two computers, nothing more. Websites and all types of public traffic going through a public-facing VPN can be passively fingerprinted, there are dozens of papers on this topic. You have to believe kikes that sell you the service on your data security, and in the end it turns out they rent servers from someone else who keeps another set of logs above that. Trusting a VPN is trusting a single point of failure unless you own a botnet or a few thousand severs bought for tumbled cryptocurrencies every month which you'd better spend on running Tor nodes and bridges.
As for reddit spacing, this board has atrocious kerning and font size, making it unreadable. Reddit posts have no "reddit spacing" but have more readability on large paragraphs overall.
>>819137
Did you miss this year's news? Russkies went full ching-chong way. Banned VPNs, Tor, everything related to circumvention, no Net Neutrality either, all ISPs keep full logs for 3 years and can MITM without court order. Based Putin amirite guise xDD.
▶ No.819150
>>818758 (OP)
DDG or starpage are centralized service with a financial system that relies on selling data stop being fucking gullible and just use YACY or a SEARX instance.
▶ No.819192
>>818785
underrated comment
▶ No.819201
>>818785
>This is not a valid criticism.
True but you shouldn't be gullible in that case, learn a lesson from it.
>Does it do that still? No? Then it's irrelevant.
No it isn't, if they used tracking cookies "by mistake" if you believe that it means that they made another way of making money.
Don't be gullible anon it's a centralized service that doesn't share it's research system they are here to make money via what should be private data.
>Your ISP, DNS server and most websites you connect to already keep logs of the shit you do on them. The government (especially the US and EU) can request that information. There's not much you can do if you're an enemy of the State anyway.
And you find this normal ?
▶ No.819203
you think Google doesnt sell itself to Russia?
you got too high opinions friend
▶ No.819214
FEAR!!! UNCERTAINTY!!! DOUBT!!!
Thank you for your cooperation,
Agent Fud
▶ No.819217
>>819015
LOOK MOM! I POSTED IT AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
▶ No.819219
The thing that people don't understand is that you can't just indiscriminately use the services of random people and expect them to have your best interests at heart.
It's like if I went to some third-world country where the government participates in gangs and petty crime, and went into every store and talked to everyone I met. It would be ridiculous to get angry if some random picks my pocket or beats me up, because I should never have assumed that everyone was my friend.
▶ No.819250
>>818838
>Why is a simple search for 'car' showing localized results for nordic anon?
Hungary is not "nordic".
▶ No.819648
>>818918
(((humanity))) as a whole is pretty (((crap)))
▶ No.819664>>819737 >>819789
Duckduckgo has done a bunch of different suspicious shit for fucking years. I don't think anyone has been autistic enough to even keep track of it all, because you should not assume it to be any better than google as far as privacy goes.
The bottom lines comes down to the fact that they are making money somehow to provide you a free service. This means you are their product.
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▶ No.819685
>>818758 (OP)
We've known that it's not completely secure for a while now but actual proof that it's been compromised might push the free software community into making a new one that doesn't rely on Google at all like Startpage does.
▶ No.819737
>>819664
>pic 1
I'm not sure what it's trying to imply with the bit about a SSL termination proxy.
1. If it was using an SSL termination proxy, what does it matter? A web server is going to need to get your unencrypted request eventually.
2. A SSL termination proxy does not let you man in the middle the https connection to a different server letting them see your unencrypted content.
3. Nginx sole's purpose is not being a SSL termination proxy. It's a web server which happens to support the feature.
I'm not trying to give any credit to duckduckgo, but the logic for that seems retarted.
▶ No.819744
>>819136
Options > Filters > Add new filter
>.*reddit.*spacing.*
▶ No.819789
>>819664
>site knows your user agent, IP and location based on it
At least they tried.
▶ No.820239
>>818758 (OP)
>May
I wish I had this kind of optimism
▶ No.820253>>853373
>>818758 (OP)
>implying there's anything wrong with yandex
Yandex might be the best email provider if you're in a NATO country. Probably the worst if you're a Russian, though.
▶ No.820284
>>818785
>single
>waifu
wut?
▶ No.820420>>820427
>>819057
>imblyign 8chan even works over tor
▶ No.820427>>820446
>>820420
It does, though. The only problem is that the hidden service still makes clear net requests.
http://oxwugzccvk3dk6tj.onion/
▶ No.820446
>>820427
well that means it doesn't work. images don't load when using the hidden service, and accessing clearnet links through tor introduces the possibility of the exit node being jew controlled
▶ No.821649
Fucking morons make another dumbass "be afraid" thread. If anybody are "cucks" it's you sissy faggots.
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▶ No.821811>>832493
>>818760
I think it has less to do with then being Russian and more to do with them being a for-profit corporation that makes its money by collecting and selling your information to advertisers.
▶ No.821856
>>818849
>pic
<that face
my weenie is hard
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▶ No.831138
>>818758 (OP)
MUH RUSSIAN HACKEEEEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRS
>>818785
Fuck off jew lover.
>>819127
(((You)))
▶ No.832191
>based in the US
>owned and run by jews
>track record of lies and manipulation
Only brainlets ever used DDG, it's an utter shit product in either case.
▶ No.832396>>832439 >>832441 >>832449 >>832770
>>818758 (OP)
DuckDuckBlows is a search engine for fucking idiots, and Gabriel is a Kike. There are only a few good search engines left anymore, but the best two I can find are Qwant and Peekier. Searx is slow, and the results are awful. I have never seen Peekier been mentioned on /tech/ before, but it is excellent. Just to summarize:
>quick, reliable results
>Does not log IP or collect any info
>shows you a rendered screenshot of the webpage, so you don't have to go there if you don't want to/it isn't the right site
>>>https://www.Peekier.com
>>>https://archive.fo/9o6ep#selection-1763.0-736.2
▶ No.832439
>>832396
>go to Startpage images
>click on one
>it opens an http proxy for webpage page
I fucking hate this. Do not fucking mess with my clicks.
If I click the link, I understand the consequences, it's no fucking different from Google's tracking link obfuscation. A third-party search engine needs to display my results, not know what I pick from them.
▶ No.832441
>>832396
>Please enable JavaScript in your browser to use this website
fuck off kike, even booble works under Tor with js disabled
▶ No.832449
>>832396
Ha! Forget about Peekier. They might not collect info themselves, but they use cloudflare who MITM (decrypt) YOUR SHIT. And set up a uniquely identifying cookie. It's still StartPage for me.
▶ No.832493
>>821811
This, people miss the point
Yandex is basically Russian equivalent of Google
▶ No.832507
>>818758 (OP)
It gets worse, they also source from Bing, a known American company
▶ No.832512>>832649
sage
>retarded newfag cant read stickies
▶ No.832649
>>832512
sage is not a downvote.
▶ No.832662
Better Russia than NSA, seens that I'm a burger and not a dog.
▶ No.832770
>>832396
Qwant is a botnet hosted in the (((EU))) that's trying to be the new jewgle of europe. It has accrediation and awards from the (((EU))) too to top that cherry of botnet off. Might investigate peekier later. Never heard of it before but the way it was registered is weird since it goes through (((cloudkike))).
▶ No.839696
>>818785
>complains about /pol/ on polchan
>posts hot nazi waifus pic
Doublethink, I...
▶ No.840323
tell me poolchan, is startpage the best?
▶ No.840329>>840435
>>818758 (OP)
>DuckDuckGo may be compromised
>may be
>may
>unironically "may"
>being this new
DDG was already proven botnet when your great-grandfather was in short pants anon.
▶ No.840435
>>840329
Nobody proved anything. All we know is the owner had shady prior business. But that's pretty much the same as every other CEO in silicon valley. You can't trust any of them.
▶ No.840443
>all this unsubstantiated FUD
OP has yet to present ANY proof of a link between Yandex and muh Russians.
▶ No.840494
>>818758 (OP)
>a known Russian company
✱gasp✱
▶ No.840660>>840766
Yandex is a Russian company, it's like Jewgle but without any open source software. Everything they make is a spying proprietary shovelware and normalfags like it. A "minimalist" ya.ru search page with literally a search bar and nothing else won't even load without javascript, yet Google still works even over Tor. Secon'd Yandex's third-party metrics collect as much information as possible, even keystrokes. Would not recommend.
t. Russian
Don't believe me? Fire up your favorite botnet translation software and visit habrahabr.ru (russian hackernews, but without pajeets, CEOs and cucks), lurk up for Yandex corporate blog or posts mentioning Yandex's software and scroll down to comments.
Here's a prime example: transit route planning app sends your geolocation data in plaintext every 5 minutes:
https://habrahabr.ru/post/249747/
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▶ No.840763
▶ No.840766>>840770
>>840660
I don't know Russian.
▶ No.840770>>840775
>>840766
tldr: yandex and vk are owned by jews
▶ No.840775
>>840770
Like everything else?
▶ No.840780
>Search for something on DDG
>Netflix
>CNN
>NYT
>Financial Times
>Kotaku
Stopped reading right there
▶ No.840782>>840784
https://8ch.net/tech/ddg.html
https://archive.is/7gKfw <June 2015, probably older
Did the Libby drama attract a bunch of newfags from 4cuck, or what?
▶ No.840784>>840785
>>840782
Considering the number of people swearing that they'll stop browsing 4chan now, probably.
▶ No.840785>>840800
>>840784
So then, this place is about as dead as a door nail. Where to now?
▶ No.840794>>840800
Hey, 4cuck fags, stay away from >>>/css/ and >>>/realbenis/ . Those are our special boards and their not for you. Don't go to them.
▶ No.840800
>>840785
I don't know anon. I just don't know.
>>840794
DELETE THIS
▶ No.840802
>>818758 (OP)
I've taken to using a searx instance that uses tor on my server, it seems like a pretty good solution
▶ No.849631
>>818785
>getting mad about internet nazis
Oh I'm laffin.
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▶ No.851385
>>818758 (OP)
I thought they were open about this?
▶ No.851394
At least its Russia and not the US.
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▶ No.853373
>>820253
Why should i use yandex over cock.li?