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 No.814938>>815077 [Watch Thread][Show All Posts]

I want to start learning how to programming but I don't know where I can start, there are so many languages.

I was thinking about start learning C++ or JavaScript, which of both is the best?

>Also

If anyone here has a guide on how to start in this world I would appreciate to see it.

Any tip worth too.

 No.814940>>814942 >>814948 >>814950 >>815174 >>815181 >>815251 >>815279

Are you a faggot? -> Rust

Are you a poonigger? -> Java

Are you a straight white male? -> C

Are you a woman? -> Cookbook


 No.814942>>814967

>>814940

I think I will go for C++, I just want to create applications and 2D/3D games and also maybe a bit of web design.

So C++ and HTML 5 would be the best?


 No.814948>>814953

>>814940

Are you an Aryan demigod, forged as the prototype for a masterrace of titans? -> Scheme.


 No.814950>>815174

>>814940

Are you black? -> ...


 No.814953

>>814948

>do you want to be stuck in academia with the Jews and never actually write anything like the rest of us? -> Any Lisplike


 No.814967

>>814942

web design is a bunch of shit and all of it is cancer.

frontend is html+css+javascript

you don't just learn one they all go together.

backend is php/python/ruby/perl, or C

pick one.


 No.815077

>>814938 (OP)

if you cant figure out what to learn then programming isnt for you

people who are truly interested in the subject and tech at large will be able to learn by themselves. you sound like you belong on reddit


 No.815079>>815083

Is there a list of all programing languages?


 No.815083>>815098

>>815079

Is there a list of niggers and queers that create low quality thread on my board?


 No.815098

>>815083

/tech/'s entire ip log


 No.815174>>815178

>>814940

Verily this is the best list.

>>814950

-> ... JobApplication


 No.815178

>>815174

fuck off leftypol


 No.815180

Codecademy has a class dedicated to Python

And on Youtube there are a lot of tutorials about C++

P.D Java is shit do not approach him


 No.815181>>815185 >>815189

>>814940

I am gay what language there is for me.


 No.815185

>>815181

>I am gay what language there is for me.

Sweden


 No.815189

>>815181

It's already established that Rust is for worthless fags.


 No.815194>>815200

I need to be good at maths to learn programming?


 No.815196

What about for an autist for whom the cost of shipping is prohibitive of "starting from the greeks" by doing math in FORTRAN on an IBM mainframe?


 No.815200

>>815194

Not really unless you program something that has cryptography


 No.815223>>815234

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What you guys think about python? it's good for a beginner first language?


 No.815228

Learn C programming language from K&R "The C Programming Language" book.


 No.815234

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>>815223

Bruv, just roll C or Go. My first language was Java back in high school. I wish it would've been C. Whatever you decide, make sure you stay away from C++; it's horribly designed and too much for a beginner.


 No.815251

>>814940

Pretty much this. Btw, if you don't go the manly route you'll have a hard time learning anything even close to low-level since you'll always think "oh this would be so much easier in python/whatever why bother".

I strongly suggest you stay away from C++ (or OO in general) when you start. Learning to program is hard enough by itself, you don't want to learn OO wrong only to have to relearn it later.


 No.815279

>>814940

"Programming" cookbook recipes for girls would actually be a pretty good satire of the "made with code" drag and drop shit. Imagine how much of a shit-storm there would be if it was successful.


 No.815287

C is a language that you can grow with. The most important thing to do when learning C is to focus on fundamental concepts (such as type safety, resource management, and invariants) and programming techniques (such as resource management using scoped objects and the use of iterators in algorithms) and not get lost in language technical details. The purpose of learning a programming language is to become a better programmer, that is, to become more effective at designing and implementing new systems and maintaining old ones. For this, an appreciation of programming and design techniques is far more important than understanding all the details. The understanding of technical details comes with time and practice.


 No.815375

In an announcement that has stunned the computer industry, Ken Thompson,

Dennis Ritchie and Brian Kernighan admitted that the Unix operating

system and C programming language created by them is an elaborate April

Fools prank kept alive for over 20 years. Speaking at the recent

UnixWorld Software Development Forum, Thompson revealed the following:

"In 1969, AT&&T had just terminated their work with the

GE/Honeywell/AT&&T Multics project. Brian and I had just started

working with an early release of Pascal from Professor Nichlaus Wirth's ETH

labs in Switzerland and we were impressed with its elegant simplicity and

power. Dennis had just finished reading 'Bored of the Rings', a

hilarious National Lampoon parody of the great Tolkien 'Lord of the

Rings' trilogy. As a lark, we decided to do parodies of the Multics

environment and Pascal. Dennis and I were responsible for the operating

environment. We looked at Multics and designed the new system to be as

complex and cryptic as possible to maximize casual users' frustration

levels, calling it Unix as a parody of Multics, as well as other more

risque allusions. Then Dennis and Brian worked on a truly warped

version of Pascal, called 'A'. When we found others were actually

trying to create real programs with A, we quickly added additional

cryptic features and evolved into B, BCPL and finally C. We stopped

when we got a clean compile on the following syntax:

for(;P("\n"),R--;P("|"))for(e=C;e--;P("_"+(*u++/8)%2))P("| "+(*u/4)%2);

To think that modern programmers would try to use a language that

allowed such a statement was beyond our comprehension! We actually

thought of selling this to the Soviets to set their computer science

progress back 20 or more years. Imagine our surprise when AT&&T and

other US corporations actually began trying to use Unix and C! It has

taken them 20 years to develop enough expertise to generate even

marginally useful applications using this 1960's technological parody,

but we are impressed with the tenacity (if not common sense) of the

general Unix and C programmer. In any event, Brian, Dennis and I have

been working exclusively in Pascal on the Apple Macintosh for the past

few years and feel really guilty about the chaos, confusion and truly

bad programming that have resulted from our silly prank so long ago."

Major Unix and C vendors and customers, including AT&&T, Microsoft,

Hewlett-Packard, GTE, NCR, and DEC have refused comment at this time.

Borland International, a leading vendor of Pascal and C tools,

including the popular Turbo Pascal, Turbo C and Turbo C++, stated they

had suspected this for a number of years and would continue to enhance

their Pascal products and halt further efforts to develop C. An IBM

spokesman broke into uncontrolled laughter and had to postpone a

hastily convened news conference concerning the fate of the RS-6000,

merely stating 'VM will be available Real Soon Now'. In a cryptic

statement, Professor Wirth of the ETH institute and father of the

Pascal, Modula 2 and Oberon structured languages, merely stated that P.

T. Barnum was correct.

In a related late-breaking story, usually reliable sources are stating

that a similar confession may be forthcoming from William Gates

concerning the MS-DOS and Windows operating environments. And IBM

spokesman have begun denying that the Virtual Machine (VM) product is

an internal prank gone awry.


 No.817307

SICP said, if my memory serves me, that it was written because MIT students lacked a fundamental understanding of programming as an art, does that mean that there are no programming fundamentals books that predate it? How did people write applications for their IBM machines? Poorly?




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