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 No.806593>>806787 >>807028 >>814046 [Watch Thread][Show All Posts]

>Unfortunately the same processes that we use to assure fulfillment of license obligations and availability of

>source code can also be used unjustly in trolling activities to extract personal monetary rewards. In

>particular, issues have arisen as a developer from the Netfilter community, Patrick McHardy, has sought to

>enforce his copyright claims in secret and for large sums of money by threatening or engaging in litigation.

>Some of his compliance claims are issues that should and could easily be resolved. However, he has also

>made claims based on ambiguities in the GPL-2.0 that no one in our community has ever considered part of compliance.

>Examples of these claims have been distributing over-the-air firmware, requiring a cell phone maker to deliver

>a paper copy of source code offer letter; claiming the source code server must be setup with a download speed

>as fast as the binary server based on the “equivalent access” language of Section 3; requiring the GPL-2.0 to be

>delivered in a local language; and many others.

http://kroah.com/log/blog/2017/10/16/linux-kernel-community-enforcement-statement/

 No.806598

>Linux Kernel Gets An "Enforcement Statement" To Deal With Copyright Trolls

https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Linux-Enforcement-Statement


 No.806604>>806612 >>806701 >>809865

tl;dr?


 No.806612>>806613 >>806615

>>806604

Linux isn't free


 No.806613

>>806612

If you don't like it go make your own, fucking parasites.


 No.806615

>>806612

Can you now pirate linux?


 No.806616>>806857

> Those authorized to ‘ack’ on behalf of their company may add their company name in (parenthesis) after their name as well.

Oy, this is anti Semitic. My foundation will sue for this trauma.


 No.806620

hurd when?


 No.806672>>806707

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This is what they get for not upgrading to Version 3.0. No sympathies coming from this anon.

>ecosystem

>buzzwording this hard

<The stunning growth and widespread adoption of Linux, however, also requires ever evolving methods of achieving compliance with the terms of our community’s chosen license, the GPL-2.0

>implying it wasn't Torvalds' hatred of the FSF that made him keep Linux at v2 only just to spite Stallman and love for TiVocucking

>no links to the GNU project's website https://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-violation.html or https://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html (the author of GPLv2) about the GPL or GPL violation but everywhere else

<Unfortunately the same processes that we use to assure fulfillment of license obligations and availability of source code can also be used unjustly in trolling activities to extract personal monetary rewards. In particular, issues have arisen as a developer from the Netfilter community, Patrick McHardy, has sought to enforce his copyright claims in secret and for large sums of money by threatening or engaging in litigation. Some of his compliance claims are issues that should and could easily be resolved.

Maybe they will be more cautious about violating the GPL after he has taught them a "monetary" teaching.

<However, he has also made claims based on ambiguities in the GPL-2.0 that no one in our community has ever considered part of compliance.

How about you fucking upgrade to the GPLv3 and get rid of thos ambiguities?

<Examples of these claims have been distributing over-the-air firmware, requiring a cell phone maker to deliver a paper copy of source code offer letter; claiming the source code server must be setup with a download speed as fast as the binary server based on the “equivalent access” language of Section 3; requiring the GPL-2.0 to be delivered in a local language; and many others.

You see know why the GPLv3 is a superior license to the GPLv2? Probably not as a lot of (((IT shekkels))) ar at stake over raping useds.

<How he goes about this [trolling] was recently documented very well by Heather Meeker.

Good! If you can make a (((quick buck))) teaching people not to mess with the GPL, more power (and wealth) to you.

<Numerous active contributors to the kernel community have tried to reach out to Patrick to have a discussion about his [lulz milking], to no response.

You should have upgraded to the GPLv3 in 2007, but Torvald craves the corporate cock too much.

<While the kernel community has always supported enforcement efforts to bring companies into compliance, we have never even considered enforcement for the purpose of extracting monetary gain.

Not even a "comply, pay us a million bucks and then we'll reinstate your right to use Loonix"?

<It is not possible to know an exact figure due to the secrecy of Patrick’s actions, but we are aware of activity that has resulted in payments of at least a few million Euros.

>just a few million Euros

These corporations should perhaps begin to regret depending on GPLv2 software, considering that the GPLv3 is less ambigous.

<A key goal of all enforcement of the GPL-2.0 license has and continues to be bringing companies into compliance with the terms of the license. The Kernel Enforcement Statement is designed to do just that. It adopts the same termination provisions we are all familiar with from GPL-3.0 as an Additional Permission giving companies confidence that they will have time to come into compliance if a failure is identified. Their ability to rely on this Additional Permission will hopefully re-establish user confidence and help direct enforcement activity back to the original purpose we have all sought over the years -- actual compliance.

They are so hellbent on TiVocucking that they won't even consider upgrading to v3 to make a path to compliance smoother. At least they are tacitly admitting that the GPLv3 is better with some regards.

<Kernel developers in our ecosystem may put their own acknowledgement to the Statement by sending a patch to Greg adding their name to the Statement, like any other kernel patch submission, and it will be gladly merged. Those authorized to ‘ack’ on behalf of their company may add their company name in (parenthesis) after their name as well.

How about people instead sign a petition for Torvalds to upgrade to version 3? Instead they are slowly realizing the problems of using a 26 year old advanced copyleft license (GPLv2) instead of a modernized 10 year old license (GPLv3).


 No.806689

How many times must Stallman be proven right with expensive consequences before faggots start listening?


 No.806701

>>806604

lawyers considered harmful


 No.806702>>806706

If linux had gone GPL 3 earlier on, we could have escaped the whole smartphone thing.


 No.806704

Has anyone investigated who this Patrick McHardy is? It sounds like a over the top Irish name, so I'm wondering if it is an alias for a hook nosed yid.


 No.806706>>806778 >>810248

>>806702

How so? Smartphones would have just been made on proprietary software.


 No.806707>>806754 >>806778 >>806790 >>806807 >>809867

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>>806672

>How about people instead sign a petition for Torvalds to upgrade to version 3?

He isn't going to change his mind.


 No.806754>>806778 >>809870

>>806707

Linus holds 15+ year old grudge against someone who said shit (lied to him) on a mailing list about the ==DRAFT== of the GPLv3.

Since then he has no trust towards the FSF or Stallman even tho the GPLv2 is making more damage than anything else in the tech world.

At least he protects the linux kernel against the SJW cult and has some good dev habits.

I just wish he would just move on to the v3 it would do so much good to the tech world.

Google would have to let people have control over their smartphone and other devices that uses the kernel.

With the v3 google could still add some malware/botnet functions and people could remove them if they know about it everybody wins in this situation.

Or their might completely not use it and use some other kernel just like Qualcomm use the cucklicensed l4 microkernel in 99% of android phones (and most of hardware) for their OS implemented radio chip and one of the most famous was snapdragon.

Again we can thanks the cucks who don't want to allow us the ownership of the hardware that we buy.


 No.806778>>806789 >>809879

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>>806706

But then they would have to spend their own resources developing something like the Linux kernel, thereby lagging behind free software in terms of quality.

>>806707

I can't wait for the day we have a Linux replacement under GPLv3+. Torvalds is a resentful ass.

>>806754

That's why it's called a draft and not the final version. And sometimes promises have to be broken; I rustling Torvalds' jimmies is what one have to do to protect freedom, then so be it. First they wanted to suck Jewgle's cock and talk about what a great thing it is that they only have to focus on fewer smartphones, but when it turns out that the replacement license (which has been available for 10 years) turned out to be better, they turn around and play the victim. This could have been prevented if Torvalds had some foresight instead of being childish and immature. Stallman has always been upfront about protecting users from developers, not protecting the cashflow to large corporations.

Pic related, Google (main developer of Android (which uses the Linux kernel)) is shown 3rd from the bottom left. It shows when different companies entered into the PRISM program which feeds information directly to the NSA. One could wonder if staying at the GPLv2 helped the NSA spy on Android users. But the most important thing in the world is that Stallman changed his mind and for that he must be hated.

(Not to mention that monolithic kernels are just so 1960s)


 No.806779

>copyleft

Fucking retards.


 No.806787

>>806593 (OP)

Some may consider it as extortion as his only intention is to get money.


 No.806789

>>806778

The only thing worse than being a bug chasing faggot and deadbeat dad is Tim Cook.


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 No.806804>>806827 >>807000

Coming Soon

>Emacs Code of Conduct

And to think people say this community is dead.


 No.806807

>>806707

>9 minutes of equivocating

Whew I've never seen Linus look this stupid.


 No.806827>>807000 >>809880

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>>806804

>Emacs Code of Conduct

GNO!

Please tell me this is a joke

>inb4 mailing list links

Let me guess, "C.Webber".

Guix adopted a CoC because of him and some puppets who just follow his "nice and comforting" cult.


 No.806857>>807006

>>806616

>when you're so brainwashed by a cult that you literally can't understand or communicate competently in your first and only language any more

Nazi LARPers are degenerate subhumans confirmed


 No.806859>>806880 >>807000 >>809554

BSD license still cuck license, you gommie/brainlets?


 No.806880

>>806859

>am I a cuck if I let other men marry my wife?


 No.807000>>809881

>>806859

>BSDcuck projecting this hard

<BSD license still cuck license, you gommie/brainlets?

No, but GPLv2 is more cucked than GPLv3. Only the AGPLv3 is less cucked than GPLv3. What however some of us in this thread is saying is that the Linux community could have avoided this by upgrading to version 3. But since Torvalds is a TiVocuck sponsored by Jewgle, and even anti-FLOSS corporations, he's not going to bite that hand that feeds him.

>>806804

>>806827

>mfw


 No.807006>>807025

>>806857

>Talks about communicating competently

>Ends his sentence with a transitive verb, missing the object!

You are a confirmed idiot.


 No.807025>>813108

>>807006

fuck off, go back to pol, schizo cultist


 No.807028>>807679

>>806593 (OP)

What, precisely, is the problem here?

I thought taking large corporations to task for violating open-source licenses was something people here supported?

Why would preventing this be a good thing?


 No.807679>>807683

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>>807028

What I believe a lot of people think is that the Linux community wants it both ways: they want the clarifications of GPLv3 but the TiVocucking opportunities of GPLv2. I have no problem with copyright holders strictly enforcing copyleft licenses but my problem is that Torvalds et al. is bawwwing about Linux contributors not going soft on violators when the solution has been present for 10 years: the GNU General Public License version 3. They are doing some elegant Mental Gymnastics around even considering changing to GPLv3. That's my comment. Not someone becoming a millionaire because (((corporations))) think copyleft is just an internet meme, and not an existing legal concept with financial ramifications.

tl;dr: Kroah-Hartman and Torvalds want a GPLv2.5 with the clarifications from version 3 without its anti-TiVoization clause, but won't even admit there are advantages to GPLv3 over GPLv2. (Little do they know GPLv3 explicitly allows exceptions.)

(Pic not related)


 No.807683>>807743

>>807679

<Little do they know GPLv3 explicitly allows exceptions.

In their defence I'm uncertain to what extent Torvalds could add exceptions to the GPLv3 in the hypothetical scenario that they change licenses. From what I understand, Torvalds does have legal right to declare the Linux kernel changed from GPLv2 to GPLv3, but I don't know if he can add exceptions during such a transition. If he does have such legal authority, he could make an exception from some of the conditions in section 6. That way the Linux kernel could be used in Tivoized products, but would still be GPLv3 compatible. But IANAL so I'm just thinking out loud about various possibilities.

(Polite sage for double-posting and self-reply.)


 No.807743

>>807683

You do realize that any "additional permissions" that a distributor applies to a v3 licensed program can be removed by a downstream distributor.


 No.807783>>807790 >>807936

Honestly, this just proves what BSD people have been saying all along. Software licensing is not how you promote free software. There will always be someone who can outjew your license.


 No.807790

>>807783

Stallman's been saying this. His way to promote free software is through speeches and written articles. The GPL exists to make use of copyright law to ensure that software distributors are not able to fork the GPL software into proprietary software.


 No.807936>>809508 >>809882

>>807783

The best actual way to promote free software is to break the conditioning and get the average user to realize how badly they're getting fucked in the ass by software jews, who ship incomplete, insecure, and/or backdoored products you can't control, change, fix, or update. That way they'll finally realize that proprietary software has no legitimate reason to be.


 No.809508

>>807936

Do you not realize that the conditioning includes a high pain tolerance/indifference to that kind of shit?


 No.809554

>>806859

BSD is a whore license, Mozilla and Apache are cuck licenses


 No.809865

>>806604

All (((lawyers))) should be killed.


 No.809867

>>806707

>do you agree that you undermined GPL3?

<I hate GPL3 and I undermined it on purpose

This is why I love this man.


 No.809870

>>806754

>the GPLv2 is making more damage than anything else in the tech world.

Can you expand on this thought? How is GPLv2 causing more damage than, say, San Francisco?

>I just wish he would just move on to the v3

What would that improve?


 No.809879

>>806778

If GPL3 prevented Google from doing what they wanted with Android, they'd just swap out the kernel with something else (probably something BSD) or fork Linux from the last GPL2. They certainly have enough cash to do the later, particularly since the scope of Android is limited.

Shit nigger, do you think GPL3 has slowed down Apple's iOS abomination? Of course not, they just built it with BSD licensed software. As long as BSD licensed software exists, GPL3 cannot protect software users from predatory international corporations.


 No.809880

>>806827

>Guix adopted a CoC

What practical effects does this actually have?

Just send patches, use the software, and never socialize with other developers. Why would you socialize with other developers anyway, unless you're some sort of house-bound NEET who needs to seek social interaction in a scheme-meme linux distro development team.


 No.809881

>>807000

>the Linux community could have avoided this by upgrading to version 3.

Avoided what? Android being anti-consumer shit? If Android couldn't be anti-consumer using Linux, it would be anti-consumer using BSD instead. What would that actually improve?

And GPL3 won't stop Systemd, so the greatest threat to the Linux users wouldn't be slowed by GPL3.


 No.809882

>>807936

>break the conditioning and get the average user to realize how badly they're getting fucked in the ass by software jews,

I don't really believe this is possible. Most people care so little about computers. Computers are only a very small aspect of their life, and they barely know how to use them.


 No.810248>>810256

>>806706

This is very likely.

Think about it: isn't it possible that Linus is just sticking with GPLv2 to build up all this corporate dependency on it, so when he finally switches to GPLv3 he brings more jews with it.


 No.810256

>>810248

Linus will never change Linux to GPLv3. He doesn't like this license.


 No.813108

>>807025

Stay triggered, you jewish /utg/ kike.


 No.814046

>>806593 (OP)

>gets a few million euros from forcing companies to not violate the copyright law they chose

How is this a bad thing and how do I start doing it?




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