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▶ No.804163>>804165 >>805046
I feel like this might be a better fit for /pol/.
▶ No.804164>>804166
someone at Google is having a really fucking good day.
▶ No.804165
>>804163
This is clearly /tech/ related as it directly affects Mozilla and Firefox.
▶ No.804166>>804182 >>805520 >>814239
>>804164
It is also /pol/ related since it involves FUCKING Antifa.
▶ No.804167>>804169 >>804170 >>805520 >>815388
They gave money to riseup, an email company.
The Mozilla Foundation also gave money to other Open Source projects because that's what they do.
To claim "Mozilla gave money to ANTIFA" is as stupid as saying "GoDaddy is nazi because they host Daily Stormer."
▶ No.804169>>804172
>>804167
Who does rise up support? It is awfully fucking convenient to want to separate the software from the politics when it runs this way.
▶ No.804170>>804172
>>804167
If Mozilla is supporting this shit, even indirectly, fuck them. I'm moving to Qupzilla.
▶ No.804171>>804184 >>804421
▶ No.804172>>804173 >>804174 >>804175 >>804177 >>804181 >>804304 >>804677
>>804169
>>804170
RiseUp doesn't support anything. It's an open source, privacy-focused email, XMPP and VPN provider that has existed since 1999.
You could compare them to OpenNIC or Cock.li in the way they function.
You're acting just like the retards that refuse to use Tor or whatever because "they don't actively go against nazis, so they're supporting them."
▶ No.804173>>804176 >>804186
>>804172
Faggot, it's called RISE UP. Get a clue for fucks sake.
▶ No.804174
>>804172
This shit has been going on WELL longer than the Dreamcast's birth year.
▶ No.804175>>804186
>>804172
>riseup
>black and red star
>d-dude they are just a simple email company
lmfao all I can think is it's one hell of a honeypot
▶ No.804176>>804178 >>804180 >>804404
>>804173
Oh, so antifa has existed since 1999? Good to know.
▶ No.804177>>804186
>>804172
Have you taken a peek at their twitter, anon?
▶ No.804178
>>804176
They've been around A LOT longer than that.
▶ No.804179
>furrycucks give 100,000 dollars to cianigger startup in washington
News at 11
▶ No.804180
>>804176
u wot
Antifa has been around for nearly a century.
▶ No.804181>>804186 >>805431
>>804172
>RiseUp doesn't support anything.
This is the first time I heard of them. So I looked it up. It's more than disingenuous to say they don't support anything, while they don't outright say HEY GUISE WE'RE ANTIFA. It takes some thick blinders on to not see they clearly do hold an agenda with the usual symbols and buzzwords found with leftist anarchists crowds.
https://riseup.net/en/about-us/politics
https://riseup.net/en
▶ No.804182
>>804166
... so post it there too.
▶ No.804183
This is good though, we now know not to hire anyone with a @riseup address.
▶ No.804184>>804187 >>804421
>>804171
Is waterfox good? is it the best? I want to change browsers and I don't like brave help me /tech/priests
▶ No.804186>>804192 >>804198 >>804242 >>807229
>>804173
>>804175
>communists like FLOSS, privacy-oriented software that promises to give power to the user instead of the big capitalist corporations
Color me surprised.
>>804177
It's normal. All it says is that they closed some nazi accounts (which is something literally everyone except, perhaps, cock.li is doing.)
>>804181
Yes, I've never said they're not commie/anarchists.
What you gotta understand is that commies/anarchist in late 1990's are very different from the ones today, especially in the US.
To say "they're literally antifa because they have similar political alignment" is to say "every conservative is kkk."
▶ No.804187>>804201 >>804421 >>812298
>>804184
Waterfox is Firefox with some bullshit you don't want removed. It's maintained by a completely separate group and has no affiliation to Mozilla.
▶ No.804189>>804212 >>804213 >>804674
Huh.. Qupzilla actually isn't half bad.
▶ No.804192>>804199 >>804222 >>804668
>>804186
>anti-capitalist
>takes $100k from fucking Mozilla
never change
▶ No.804194
I've had it with Mozilla.
Switching to Palemoon unless someone has a better suggestion.
▶ No.804195
Someone tell furfags about it, I want to watch a full on nazifur explosion on /pol/. I might even actually go buy popcorn.
▶ No.804198
>>804186
>What you gotta understand is that commies/anarchist in late 1990's are very different from the ones today, especially in the US.
Try again charlie, I actually did live through the 1990s and no, they're not that different from today, back then they still have the usual storewindows smasher elements, and the same type of college commie whiners.
>To say "they're literally antifa because they have similar political alignment" is to say "every conservative is kkk."
Except the latter is actually pushed by MSM, leftist academia and HR-PR fucks as well as their social media beta orbiters.
▶ No.804199>>804205 >>804206
>>804192
The Mozilla Foundation is a non-profit.
▶ No.804201
>>804187
that sounds good. thank you! polite sage
▶ No.804205>>804211
>>804199
>it's not capital when it comes from the charity hand of a corporation
Riseup and grow a spine.
▶ No.804206>>804211 >>804384
>>804199
>non-profit
Even non-profits need to turn a profit. It's the nature of business.
▶ No.804210>>804214
Eeeh, the antifa connection isn't very strong. Though Rise Up does seem to be a radical left organization which aligns somewhat closely with them.
I think it's more of an issue of Mozilla supporting leftwing / radical leftwing organizations. I'm pretty sure Rise Up didn't even need the money and are essentially just pocketing it. I couldn't possibly see the total server costs being over $1k a month.
▶ No.804211
>>804205
>>804206
Tell that to RiseUp, they're the stupid commies.
▶ No.804212>>804653
>>804189
Is Tyson Tan trying to make a mascot for every FOSS project or what?
▶ No.804213>>804216
I still don't know why Mozilla being a shitty organization is the straw that breaks the camel's back for people. I've never given them a dime and I will continue not to, but that doesn't mean their browser is automatically a pile of shit. There's plenty of technical reasons to be fed up with them.
>>804189
Maybe if you compare it to vanilla Firefox, but nobody uses Firefox for its vanilla performance or features. Just like the rest of the browsers, it's short on critical features.
▶ No.804214>>804217 >>804408
>>804210
This is what grinds my gears. Everybody got worked up when the Cock.li guy got into trouble because he posted a Hitler did nothing wrong satirical video on the page or when some retard used a Cock.li email to send fake bomb threats, but now if antifa uses an email service, that email service becomes antifa itself. Bullshit.
▶ No.804216
>>804213
That could change if more people started using it... I mean, FF is about to break most extensions anyway.
▶ No.804217>>804224
>>804214
At a minimum RISEUP is Antifa friendly. That's still pretty fucking bad.
▶ No.804221
▶ No.804222
>>804192
Commies aren't the smartest people.
▶ No.804224>>804226 >>807235
>>804217
>at a minimum Cock.li is nazi-friendly. That's still pretty fucking bad
▶ No.804226>>804230
>>804224
Again, have you seen the shit they've been putting out about Antifa themselves?
▶ No.804229
Mozilla gives $100k to RiseUp, an email service used by them. It is not the same thing.
▶ No.804230
>>804226
No. Their website and Twitter account has no mention of them.
Unless I missed something, looks like yet another "corporations are bad use our service" kinda startup.
▶ No.804234
Oh, so the same mozilla that pushed out their CEO for "problematic" personal politics and donations? Imagine that. Leftist regressive authoritarians being hypocritical assholes. Not even surprising at this point.
▶ No.804242>>804273
>>804186
>It's normal. All it says is that they closed some nazi accounts
Let me get this straight: they're not anti-fascists because they act against fascists?
>which is something literally everyone except, perhaps, cock.li is doing.
And yet they never get sued into oblivion over refusing service. An email provider deletes someone's email, possibly causing a huge amount of inconvenience? No biggie, he was literally Hitler. Baker doesn't want to bake a dick cake for faggots on religious grounds? That'll be 130k shekels, goy. Do you commies not realize that you're allowed to refuse service but natsocs aren't because the man considers you not a threat but a useful tool?
▶ No.804272>>804277 >>811587
Riseup's cybersecurity infodumps are quite decent, and they are supposed to run Tor nodes, I believe. Seal of approval.jpg at least in that regard.
I tried to signup for rheir openVPN/mail account, but they're asking for invite (supposedly because of spammers).
There's some other VPN account you can get without an invite, but you need to install some "bitmask" vpn client or whatisit.
Also, there're rumors, they snitched on their users to the FBI at least once.
What I don't understand is why a non-profit like Mozilla is throwing money around, instead of spending it on the development?
I wouldn't worry about antifa per-se, but it does smell like a money laundering scheme to me.
▶ No.804273>>804274 >>804275
>>804242
https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2014/04/05/faq-on-ceo-resignation/
Oh, the Soros thing is also fake. Two completely different things, Mozilla will only make a campaign so stupid people don't believe everything they read online.
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▶ No.804275>>804280
>>804273
"Voluntarily submitted his resignation" is what companies do when they don't want to pay you for firing with no legally justifiable reason.
▶ No.804277>>804282 >>804911
>>804272
Because the Mozilla Foundation is much, much more than just Firefox. They develop other projects like the Mozilla Location Service, a libre alternative to the Google and Apple location services that is used by the GNOME and KDE projects. They're also developing a libre speech recognition system to rival Siri, Cortana and Assistant. So far Mycroft is the only system using it.
Video chats, blogs and file/screenshot sharing are some of the other things they tried. Recently they also bought Pocket and part of a German search engine.
They also have a lot of developer tools for web devs including programs, tutorials, etc.
They even pushed for some new standard online such as animated PNG and jpeg2000.
MOSS is a program to support and give money to other open source projects. Rise Up wasn't the only benefited this time (though they did receive the most money.)
▶ No.804280
>>804274
>everything I don't like is bait/shilling
Kill yourself.
>>804275
Yes, because workers don't have rights or something.
Eich's take on the story aligns with what Mozilla said, and Mozilla's blog post denounces media and even claim that they don't care about fag marriage; but sure, keep spouting lies and buzzwords.
▶ No.804282>>804290 >>804382 >>804911
>>804277
I really can't wrap my head around this non-profit venture funding business model.
▶ No.804290
>>804282
Me neither. They do all this things, but then refuse to update Thunderbird and Seamonkey because they don't have enough money or something.
▶ No.804304>>804308
>>804172
Their logo is an AnCom flag for God's sake. Of course they're Antifa commies.
▶ No.804308
>>804304
Being a communist in 1999 doesn't equate with being antifa. The only thing that makes you antifa... Is being antifa.
So unless you can find any proof that these guys actively support antifa, or that they're actually antifa, then you've proved nothing.
▶ No.804355>>804384 >>806767
>donate money to open source projects
>they give it to communists
▶ No.804370
I hope they do more shit that pisses off /pol/yp autists
▶ No.804377>>804385
99% of people posting in this thread are retards.
God, I don't come to /tech/ to have the political opinions of manlet.
▶ No.804382
>>804282
It's the "being an intel front getting your funding from the tax serfs via the deep state" model. Very sustainable and with lots of leeway regarding your projects.
▶ No.804384
>>804206
>profit
they need REVENUE, not necessarily profits. >>804355
>mozilla took "foss is communism" seriously
▶ No.804385
>>804377 (checked reddit spacing)
>manlet
I was going to give you props, then realized you're a faggot as the rest.
▶ No.804387>>804423 >>805558
>/leftypol/ running damage control in this thread
▶ No.804393>>805255
>[tippingintensifies].gif
▶ No.804404
>>804176
It's been around since at least the early 1900s, you dip.
▶ No.804405
>>804156 (OP)
>don't use firefox
>don't use designated functional shitting language (((Rust)))
>no mozilla cancer from my life
Feels good
▶ No.804406>>804862
>>804159
>>804156 (OP)
(((Bryan Lunduke)))
▶ No.804408
>>804214
Oh did Cock.li get $100k from Mozilla?
▶ No.804421
>>804171
>>804184
>>804187
How is Waterfox any better than IceCat? I mean, what it brings to the table?
▶ No.804423>>804660 >>804910
>>804387
/leftypol/ absolutely hates Antifa
▶ No.804424>>804616
Riseup has done more for helping protect people's freedoms online than any of you, and definitely moreso than fucking Lunduke.
▶ No.804425>>804615
>>804156 (OP)
They should give it to infinity. :^) riseup is used by next to nobody.
▶ No.804615
▶ No.804616
>>804424
I'm not Jewish or a communist. Why should I care?
▶ No.804619>>804636
Holy fuck! That was the straw that broke the camel's back to me.
▶ No.804622>>804914
Switch to icecat or palememe
▶ No.804634>>805437
Can someone redpill me on Qupzilla? Do they have political affiliations? What reason shouldn't I use this?
▶ No.804636>>804640
>>804619
>he logs in as root to run dnf instead of using sudo
typical rightist retard
▶ No.804639
>>804624
>"your being a reactionary!"
>furry avatar
lmao
▶ No.804640
>>804636
>2017
>using sudo
>calling others retard
black pots
▶ No.804643>>804648 >>804862 >>812300 >>812552
Ok faggos...so what's the best browser to use right now?
Which browser respects your privacy, freedoms, and also supports all the modern web standards?
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▶ No.804653
>>804212
I fucking hope so. I'm waiting for the furry mascot harem. :^)
▶ No.804657>>804666
adrint@Z68A-D3H-B3:~$ sudo apt purge firefox
[sudo] password for adrint:
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Starting pkgProblemResolver with broken count: 0
Starting 2 pkgProblemResolver with broken count: 0
Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
firefox*
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
After this operation, 172 MB disk space will be freed.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Y
(Reading database ... 269861 files and directories currently installed.)
Removing firefox (56.0+build6-0ubuntu0.16.04.2) ...
Purging configuration files for firefox (56.0+build6-0ubuntu0.16.04.2) ...
Processing triggers for desktop-file-utils (0.22-1ubuntu5.1) ...
Processing triggers for mime-support (3.59ubuntu1) ...
Processing triggers for man-db (2.7.5-1) ...
adrint@Z68A-D3H-B3:~$
▶ No.804660
>>804423
sure thing, kiddo
▶ No.804666
>>804657
If you're the Adrint I think you are you never get on XMPP anymore.
▶ No.804668>>804670
>>804192
While I'm not an anarchist, I'm definitely on the left, and I don't know any leftist that seeks to overthrow capitalism while somehow existing outside of it. If that could be done, they wouldn't need to overthrow it. Don't be retarded. /politics
▶ No.804670>>804671
>>804668
>I'm definitely on the left
Opinion discarded.
+1 Counter-Sage Bump
▶ No.804671>>804672
>>804670
>sage is le downboat
Congratulations on outing yourself, reddit.
▶ No.804672>>806374
>>804671
>reddit has the chutzpah to call me reddit
▶ No.804674>>804708
>>804189
Xombrero is my current browser of choice. Has tabs but basically nothing else. Follows the Unix philosophy very well.
▶ No.804676>>804711
>>804624
>Mendoza
What is it with spics and communism?
▶ No.804677
>>804172
Riseup isn't like cock.li at all. Cock.li lets anybody register for an account. Riseup requires you to have an invite code to get one, with the original invite codes having been seeded to people that they specifically approved because they were involved in leftist activism. It's explicitly ideological about who can use their services. (Not to mention that their TOS says they can terminate your account for doing anything that they deem "evil", and we know how much shit leftists deem evil nowadays.)
▶ No.804708
>>804674
xombero is abandoned you LARPing mongoloid
▶ No.804711
>>804676
American minority management.
▶ No.804728
Trash threads belong on trash boards.
▶ No.804764>>804778 >>804803 >>807245
You know what we should do? We should shame mozilla into oblivion, they fired Brendan because he supported a point of view deemed problematic, they fired him because his personal associations and how he used his own money. Bredan didn't use mozilla's money to support anti gay marriage, but now we have mozilla supporting a terrorist group. Call mozilla on its own hypocrisy and support of political violence. Leftists don't have a problem shaming people they disagree with, why should we? Find the developers associations and shame them, shame them for supporting censorship and violence.
▶ No.804766
Been on Opera for so long, dodged these bullets 2 years ago,
Cultural Revolution Comrades!
▶ No.804769>>804782
>>804159
What the hell? I skipped through the first minutes and it's all just adds. What the hell is wrong with this shit?
▶ No.804772
>>804648
Not a browser. Use wget.
▶ No.804778
>>804764
Shame is a tool leftists use to silence people who have it.
▶ No.804782
>>804769
This is the future you chose by spreading adblockers.
▶ No.804789
>$100000 for an invite only email service used by spoiled western children
>not enough funds to unshit thunderbird
▶ No.804803>>804844 >>804845 >>804862 >>805256
>>804764
>they fired Brendan because he supported a point of view deemed problematic
This didn't happen, he stepped out himself because there was so much bad PR and people started sabotaging Mozilla.
>but now we have mozilla supporting a terrorist group
This didn't happen either, MOSS gave money to several open source projects including a "descentralized" email/VPN/XMPP provider that some antifa members, as well as some WikiLeaks members, have used.
▶ No.804844
>>804803
I'm not sure what you're not understanding about the fact that Riseup is not an open platform.
▶ No.804845
>>804803
>he stepped out himself
lol
▶ No.804862
>>804406
He's gotten a lot better than he used to be, to be fair.
>>804643
I use palememe, but I know some are turned off from it after the AdNauseum thing. Brave is pretty good if you turn off all ads, though personally I'm waiting for more extension support for things like uMatrix. Most people shitting on Brave haven't actually read the site and just saw "replaces ads with its own ads." There's plenty of reasons not to use it right now, but it's not a bad option. A lot of folks also swear by IceCat; however, I don't have a lot of experience with it, so I can't help too much there.
>>804803
The most incriminating things for RiseUp are the ToS and the invite-only aspects. That is what makes it shady.
▶ No.804909
>>804156 (OP)
You nignogs, Debian has members from RiseUp that work on Debian.
>Debian GNU/Linux: Several riseup collective members are active developers of Debian (the only major distribution created by a non-profit). Many people are familiar with Ubuntu, which is a based upon Debian. See www.debian.org/
Source:
https://riseup.net/en/about-us/projects
https://archive.fo/rM9o8
They also share the same building/adres with the TOR Projects:
>Riseup Networks
>PO Box 4282
>Seattle, WA 98194 USA
Source:
https://riseup.net/en/about-us/contact
https://archive.fo/wHJof
No wonder why (((Soros))) invested a lot in Mozilla as he uses Mozilla as a proxy to donate money to salt-left projects such as these.
Also reminder that systemd is made by the US Gov't. Have fun.
▶ No.804910>>804966 >>804999 >>805002
>>804423
Antifa is exactly what leftypol want you numb nut.
▶ No.804911
>>804277
>>804282
Some ad network codenamed MOSSAD, used to hide money laundering activities.
▶ No.804914
>>804622
Lynx/Links/w3m tbh fam
▶ No.804920
I hated Lunduke for fucking around with RMS via clickbait jornalism back at LAS.
I liked Lunduke for the W3C thing.
Now we're back at clickbait jornalism and hate.
▶ No.804959
Welp, time to install two copies of firefox on my computer
▶ No.804966>>804971 >>804981
>>804910
/pol/ really likes fighting strawmen it seems. /leftypol/ thinks Antifa is a disaster made up of neoliberal faggots and retarded anarchists. How do I know? I asked them. Instead of spewing lies, go ask them yourself.
▶ No.804971>>804981
>>804966
An even better way of finding out is by using the search feature.
https://8ch.net/search.php?search=antifa&board=leftypol
Seems like some posters think they're benign, many more posters think they're shit, and everyone agrees they're retarded.
▶ No.804981>>805549
>>804971
>>804966
What /pol/ imagines antifa are is what /pol/s imaginary version of leftypol want. Neither are reality. Theres occasional posters who think they're great and people typically shit on them for it and it derails the thread.
it wouldnt be right to say "retarded anarchists", authoritarian posters there would think so, but anarchist posters would more say they're retarded liberal pseudos.
basically right though.
▶ No.804999>>805069 >>805076 >>805092 >>807792
>>804910
/leftypol/ are basically guys we talk to everyday in here, who think and act just like us in 95% of questions, hate the world we live in as much as we do, except they see capitalism in essence as the problem and not capitalism as delivered by the jews, it's simple as that.
While Antifa is simply and literally reddit.
Just do the math.
▶ No.805002>>805069 >>805097
>>804910
/leftypol/ are basically the same fags we talk to everyday on all other boards, who think and act just like us in 95% of questions, hate the world we live in as much as we do, except they see capitalism in essence as the problem and not capitalism as delivered by the jews, it's simple as that.
While Antifa is simply and literally reddit.
Just do the math.
▶ No.805046
▶ No.805069
>>804999
>>805002
This. I have just as much, if not more, in common with my /leftypol/ friend than non-channer friends who are much closer to my political views.
▶ No.805076>>805106
>>804999
Capalism delivered by Jews IS the problem you fucking mongoloid.
▶ No.805092>>805100
>>804999
Thank you, anon. You made me realize that there is indeed virtually no difference between sjw and /pol/ commie scum.
▶ No.805096>>805098 >>805099
>>805094
That's exactly the problem here, ya?
Riseup ```is``` random creepy group of people who use Tor.
At least other donations will result in some webshit being developed, but all riseup's cash-sensitive infrastructure is behind closed doors, and inaccessible to general public.
More appropriate hypothetical headline would be
<mozilla gives some anon $100.000 so he could spend it on hosting his own private ownCloud server.
▶ No.805097
>>805002
>I'm not like the other leftists
Real tired of this shit. The "same fags we talk to everyday on all other boards" is why 99% of everything ever posted here is crap. You, /pol/ and /leftypol/, are all both shit and have to go back.
▶ No.805098
>>805094
If Mozilla actually literally gave money to antifa (which doesn't make sense, because antifa is not a real organization, but let's ignore that for the moment) I might have a problem with it. Politics are not completely irrelevant. But at most, Riseup just happens to allow antifa to use their services, like cock.li and 8chan would.
>>805096
You need to be invited by anyone who has been a member for at least a short while. It's not that closed up.
And they provide other services that you don't need to register for. I used their Etherpad service a few years ago. Their (temporary) file upload seems fine.
▶ No.805099
>>805096
I had a revelation after posting this:
>other donations will result in some webshit being developed,
I actually don't want more webshit.
Mozilla should give all it's money to internet revolutionary LARPers who will spend it on hosting their super secret chats and weed.
That way we won't get another WebGl game engine or framework for web assembly integration or whatever else they donated to, and world be in a better place.
▶ No.805100>>807259
>>805092
There's a huge difference.
Nazis would send you to a concentration camp (that they didn't even invent and had to borrow from the commies) for being a weeb degenerate, for example. They'd either gas you in there, starve to death or perform medical experiments.
Otherwise you'd spend day after day in a grey, featureless hive-like factory of a city being a pointless, easily replaceable cog, constantly under surveillance and scrutiny. Always afraid to do or say something wrong lest you are branded a traitor, a degenerate, a spy and so forth, in which case GOTO death_camp.
Commies, on the other hand, would turn the entire country into a shithole comparable to a second-world prison and make your life so miserable that you'd want to kill yourself anyway. And if you do something they really hate only then they'd send you to a concentration camp and force you to work until you die.
Otherwise it's the same as in the nazi scenario.
Isn't socialism a great concept?
▶ No.805106
>>805076
This, 100%. Because taking huge dicks in the butt until you can not move let alone walk without gushing blood violently, that's not actually bad. It's just that when I don't like or choose who is doing the fucking then it's rape.
▶ No.805234>>805242 >>805248 >>806250 >>807251
Where's the right-wing equivalent of Mozilla? That's right, there isn't one.
Maybe it's time to admit you're on the wrong side of history.
▶ No.805242>>805245
>>805234
>history
>mozilla is a failing blob that won't last next decade
By your measure, the real winner here, and the one we should be siding with, is Google. Good job sucking that corporate cock and collaborating with the dystopian capitalist future they're building. You must really love them sheckels, boy!
▶ No.805245>>805493
>>805242
>I'm poor, just like /leftypol/'s starved cat mascot, therefore I'm right
▶ No.805248
>>805234
It was Mozilla before the kikes made a power play.
▶ No.805255
>>804393
this is what happens when we let reddit go on side by side with us
We once ruled the internet with our might, wtf happened?
▶ No.805256
>>804803
>as well as some WikiLeaks members, have used
[citat-
DO I EVEN NEED TO DO THIS?
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▶ No.805437
>>804634
It's recently gone through some major changes (uses KDE and Chrom* assets), and isn't known to be especially secure. I don't know about ideological baggage, but the technical side is definitely worth a mention.
▶ No.805468>>805492 >>805511
I've been using this service as my email provider for like 4-5 years. Convince me that I should stop using it as they have been doing great and I'm no where near a communist.
▶ No.805492>>805644 >>805661
>>805468
There is nothing wrong with it, it is even recommended by the FSF. I've been looking to get an an account there since openmailbox went botnet, could I please get an invite?
yazuyeja@datum2.com
▶ No.805493>>805626
>>805245
More like
>i try to get by and survive without exploring and exploiting people to my advantage or doing things that would leave me disgusted with myself, because i'm not sick in the head or a filthy subhuman jew, therefore i'm searching for solutions to things thay won't make the world even more shittier than already is
▶ No.805511>>805513 >>805570 >>805665 >>806253 >>806261 >>806361
>>805468
Fuck riseup. Absolutely fuck riseup.
First off I used to volunteer my time helping riseup back in the 2000's when there weren't many services like it (yes, I was one of those autistic "riseup birds"). However after it became apparent that they were more interested in circle jerking with telecomix and playing fringe politics, I left.
There are a few very important things you need to know about riseup. To begin with, they don't give a shit about your privacy. I won't name any names, but back in 2011 there were multiple instances of the admins searching through people's mailbox, and then banning them from the service after figuring out they were associated with opensc.ws, a forum devoted to discussing security topics. They did this because a group they were heavily reliant on for cash, telecomix, found out that an admin on opensc.ws named darkcodersec made a tool called darkcomet, which was used by the Syrian government to try and weed out access agents from the journalists that were working in the region. This was neither the first nor the last instance of this. I can remember this type of thing happening going all the way back to 2008.
Next off, their warrant canary has been dead for nearly a year now. The only guy with access to it won't update it, and refuses to answer any questions as to why, mocking anyone who sees it as a problem. To try and help ease fears they made a system that "automatically encrypts" your incoming emails, but this system still hasn't actually been implemented. They keep on pushing back the date they want to do it because of how "big" the migration will be. To add onto this, they have told everyone that they are using the system on all accounts now, even though they barely just got it working back in August.
To add more insult to injury, the decryption process takes place server side, and it keeps the files unencrypted onto the drive until you log out. This might not seem like a problem, but if you use anything but their web-client it means your files will be unencrypted 100% of the time.
And there is so much more. For example, they "accidentally" man-in-the-middled all of the OTR keys on their XMPP back in 2010 (they even have a setting in which they can start mitm'ing individual users, for "safety" reasons to protect against "bad russian hackers who browse exploit.in and antichat"). They also have their prosody server configured to retain logs of every conversation.
▶ No.805513>>805548
>>805511
Now this is what I wanted to see. Instead of the stupid circlejerking over "muh antifa" just because Lunduke said so with little to no proof, we now have actual reasons, both political and technical, to dislike RiseUp and question Mozilla's actions.
The encryption and warrant canary bits can be easily searxed, by the way.
▶ No.805520>>806808
This clearly belongs to /pol/ or /leftypol/. The only way technology is involved in this is because Mozilla is involved.
One could try to bother explaining the dumb ameritards here that Antifa is about as much as a thing as Anoneemoose, but my guess is that it would be pointless.
>>804167
99999 times this.
>>804166
>that pic
This is why we need /pol/ out of this board.
▶ No.805548>>805550
>>805513
>little to no prove
Are you retarded?
▶ No.805549
>>804981
>leftypol trying to justify their retardedness
Get hanged man.
▶ No.805550>>805574
>>805548
One website that shows some antifa members use RiseUp doesn't mean that every antifa member uses RiseUp or that Rise]Up itself is antifa.
Not only that, but that webiste shows most of those also had Facebook, Twitter and Google accounts; yet Bryan didn't accuse those corporations of being or supporting antifa.
▶ No.805558
>>804387
I didn't know pol uses Windows
▶ No.805570
>>805511
what in the fuck. leftists have a special place in hell waiting for them
▶ No.805574>>805593
>>805550
Mozilla also didn't give those corporations $100,000.
▶ No.805593>>805601
>>805574
But it gave money to other projects.
▶ No.805601
>>805593
Your point being?
▶ No.805626
>>805493
>I am fundamentally incompatible with 50 millenia of human civilization but they're in the wrong. Can't you see how right I am?
No.
▶ No.805644
>>805492
Sorry dude I just used one for myself as openmailbox started charging for imap access and I had to migrate my personal email
▶ No.805661>>805682
>>805492
You have a lot of info here that would be too hard to fabricate. Might I ask what you prefer to use for email?
▶ No.805665>>806199
>>805511
>Next off, their warrant canary has been dead for nearly a year now.
It isn't? It says it was updated on the last date their canary said they update on.
▶ No.805682
▶ No.806135
This is not surprise when Mozilla is SJW/lefty as fuck
▶ No.806199
>>805665
I honestly don't care about that right now. Nothing I do is illegal. I just want a service who won't shut me down for my wrongthink political opinions.
▶ No.806207>>806208 >>806216
So, couldn't there be legal mummifications for supporting a documented terrorist group?
▶ No.806208
>>806207
Well, I didn't type mummifications but it's funnier that way.
▶ No.806216
>>806207
Probably, but they didn't support a terrorist organization. Please read the thread.
▶ No.806250>>806262
>>805234
What about Brave?
▶ No.806253
▶ No.806256
>>804156 (OP)
what a fucking bunch of clickbait. If I fund a site that just so happens to be used by antifa, am I funding antifa?
go back to >>>/pol/ where this kind of dumbass reasoning is allowed.
▶ No.806261
>>805511
>I won't name any names
"I have no source"
>Next off, their warrant canary has been dead for nearly a year now.
This is untrue
>For example, they "accidentally" man-in-the-middled all of the OTR keys on their XMPP back in 2010
Source?
▶ No.806262
>>806250
Forced meme that nobody gives a shit about, even less relevant than Opera
▶ No.806361
>>805511
Why did I read this as "Fuck anime. Absolutely fuck anime."? Is my subconscious playing games with me? I like anime.
▶ No.806374
>>804672
>reddit has the chutzpah to call me reddit
t. r/the_donald
While /leftypol/ continually agitated sjw subreddits to the point that even mentioning it will get you banned there (see: catgirls), you trumpcucks were advocating an "alliance" between halfchan /pol/ and r/t_d.
Don't fucking project your piss-poor politics and opportunistic decision-making onto others. You are what you are.
▶ No.806767
>>804355
>donating in the first place
You asked for this.
▶ No.806808
>>805520
>namefag
>waaaaaaaaaah muh /pol/
This is why we need >>>/somethingawful/ out of this board.
▶ No.807229
>>804186
>It's normal. All it says is that they closed some nazi accounts (which is something literally everyone except, perhaps, cock.li is doing.)
What's the point of a privacy-focused email if you're not using it to spread goodness and justice in this world.
▶ No.807235>>807253
>>804224
What the fuck is supposed to be bad about being natsoc-friendly. That's a badge of honor.
▶ No.807244>>807245
That only works when you have the media on your side.
Nuremberg laws when?
▶ No.807245
>>804764
>>807244
how the fuck did I drop the reply link?
▶ No.807251
▶ No.807253
>>807235
>I don't understand double standards
>t.retard
▶ No.807259>>807488
>>805100
most nazis these days ARE weebs. It's 2017, ffs.
▶ No.807488
>>807259
He means real Nazis, not the untermensch that like to role play as Nazis on the internet.
▶ No.807507
RiseUp is most prominent group that provides infrastructure for radicalism in the FOSS community. Some Debian developers use it, FBI has seized it at least once, EFF provided legal defense (abuse of anonymous remailer), some Tor members cooperated with it, one early Bitcoin developer used it, and many more. I assumed everyone who gets into FOSS has heard about it at least once.
If you are a /pol/itician, or you think Mozilla wrongly supported a group, or you think RiseUp itself is trash, or it's insecure[1], feel free to talk about it in /pol/. Immediately screaming about "Mozilla supported RiseUp, and RiseUp = Antifa!" just after you see a flag is not legit.
>WTF, I hate /tech/ now.
For extra credit and to educate you, there is another similar group named Autistici (a.k.a Inventati), which provides hosting & mail. They require users to be "anti-capitalist, anti-racist and anti-facist" in their usage agreement. I hope if something happens next time, /tech/ or /pol/ won't start freaking out about it again.
>https://www.autistici.org/
[1] actually it's not solid secure, some minor issues about not incorporating best practice on the SSL/TLS and XMPP server, but they have been working on their new infrastructure and services recently, and it's fine for receiving automatic emails. registration was once open I think, perhaps because of abuses, now they increased the need of one invitation code to two.
▶ No.807792>>811591
>>804999
>except they see capitalism in essence as the problem and not capitalism as delivered by the jew
Let me guess, you think /pol/ are fucking libertarians? the r/thedonald civnats that are swarming the board certainly are Do you even know what the third position is? That Mussolini was a card carrying socialist before rising to power? Educate yourself.
▶ No.811587
>>804272
>and they are supposed to run Tor nodes
RiseUP actually runs one of the 10 hardcoded Tor directory authorites, longclaw.
>"longclaw orport=443 "
>"v3ident=23D15D965BC35114467363C165C4F724B64B4F66 "
>"199.58.81.140:80 74A9 1064 6BCE EFBC D2E8 74FC 1DC9 9743 0F96 8145"
https://github.com/torproject/tor/blob/master/src/or/config.c#LC1082
▶ No.811591
>>807792
Who the fuck cares about Mussolini? He was a little prick who tagged along with the winning team and ended up paying for it.
▶ No.812190>>812199 >>812295 >>813067
>>804156 (OP)
You guys are gay as fuck.
Mozilla donates to many "muh freedums" type organisations and rise up is no different. They may have anarcho-communist leanings but I think main thing is that they're about privacy and that's why Mozilla has donated to them.
You guys are acting like SJWs it's fucking disgusting.
>Listening to Brian Cumduke
They guy is a radio voiced attention whore who is only relevant because he is basically the only tabloid news reporter in FOSS.
>inb4 ((()))
>inb4 shill
>inb4 leftypol
▶ No.812199>>812295
>>812190
I've noticed that /tech/ is equally as hysterical as the SJW they claim to oppose. The bogeymen they fear have different names but the hysteria they display is the same.
▶ No.812205
>>812203
I don't mind people who disagree with me with a sound rebuttal or with a different opinion. What is very common in /tech/ is jumping to conclusions based on nothing but imagination. I know some people do this in an "ironic" matter and I know some of these people are plain trolling but I know that many of these people seriously believe that a dissenting opinion implies a conclusion that doesn't follow.
▶ No.812295>>812401 >>820941
>>812199
>>812190
distant hand-rubbing intensifies as 5 cents is deposited into your account
▶ No.812298
>>804187
>Waterfox is Firefox with some bullshit you don't want removed.
But is it compatible with the addons I use?
t. Firefox pro
▶ No.812300>>812430
>>804643
Qutebrowser will be good enough once they get proper ABP/uBlock compatible filtering rather than a simple hosts filter for ad blocking. It already uses qtwebkit (back in development!) or Qt WebEngine (Blink/Chrom*) for the backend so it's got a rendering process per tab and a nice Vim-like UI.
▶ No.812401
>>812295
sand blasting is magnified as bitcoins are mined into wallets
▶ No.812430>>812555
>>812300
Here's a minimal adblock-like userscript I just wrote:
#!/usr/bin/env python3
import os
selectors = ', '.join(line.strip() for line in open(
os.path.join(os.environ['QUTE_CONFIG_DIR'], 'filters')))
script = ("var elems = document.querySelectorAll('" + selectors + "');"
"for (var i = 0; i < elems.length; i++) {"
" elems[i].parentNode.removeChild(elems[i]);"
"}")
with open(os.environ['QUTE_FIFO'], 'w') as f:
print('jseval ' + script, file=f)
Put a file called "filters" in ~/.config/qutebrowser/ or the equivalent, and put a CSS selector on each line. Keep in mind that nothing is escaped. Bind the script to something because you have to run it manually.
I see some plumbing in tabbedbrowser.py that does things when a tab is done loading, so getting a function defined in config.py to be executed when a tab is done loading might not be hard. Ideally you would do that through an actual feature provided by qutebrowser for config.py but I'm sure a dirty hack could manage it as well. The ideal way would also mean a pretty big change in the way you use config.py, and I think that change is planned, but it's not there yet so I don't know if that's achievable in the near future. You definitely wouldn't want an exception in a function you defined in config.py to bring down the whole browser.
▶ No.812439>>812441 >>813026
>>804156 (OP)
> Funding terrorist organizations.
I could have sworn this was illegal.
▶ No.812441
>>812439
Mozilla didn't actually fund any terrorist organizations so it cancels out
▶ No.812552
>>804643
>Which browser respects your privacy, freedoms, and also supports all the modern web standards?
These are mutually exclusive, modern web standards are effectively made by google and their business model is based on taking away your privacy and freedom.
▶ No.812555
>>812430
I'd like to avoid making config.py a plugin system, because I think it's better if there's a thought-out and more or less stable plugin API first.
However, someone is working on Greasemonkey support, which would allow running JS on page load: https://github.com/qutebrowser/qutebrowser/pull/3040
There's also the idea of doing something similar to autocmds in vim, though that'll probably only happen once there's a plugin API as well.
Related issues:
https://github.com/qutebrowser/qutebrowser/issues/30
https://github.com/qutebrowser/qutebrowser/issues/35
▶ No.813026>>813030 >>813087 >>813099
>>812439
MOZZARELLA FOXFIRE IS (((LITERALLY))) FUDNING ANTIFA SUPERSOLDIERS TO BEHEAD WHITE AMERICA IN THE== ==[code]TOWN SQUARE[/aa]
▶ No.813030
>>813026
also something something invisible pizza basement sauce
▶ No.813067
>>812190
Get fucked commie spic
▶ No.813087>>813099
>>813026
DONALD DUCK IS LITERALLY AN ATOM BOMB WHO IS GOING NUCLEAR ON THE WHITE ROME
▶ No.813097>>813338 >>814250
>>804156 (OP)
Riseup is run by anarchists. Antifa is not all anarchists, and all anarchists are certainly not antifa. Read something other than SICP faggot.
▶ No.813099
>>813026
>>813087
TWO SCOOPS
TWO SCOOPS
BLONALD GRLUMPF IS A FASCIST
IMPEACH DLOLNAND PMUMPH
t. Mozilla
▶ No.813331>>813439
Its a fucking e-mail service
Nothing to get upset about
▶ No.813338
>>813097
>A group who broadens the definition of fascism to "any government entity I don't likely including police"
>not anarchists
They sure as fuck aren't libertarians or classical liberals you fucking cock
▶ No.813361>>813362 >>813428
[sitpost]
GODZILLA IS LITERALLY FUNDING THE ANTICHRISTS
[/shitpost]
▶ No.813428
>>813361
I want gojira to rape my neghole
▶ No.813439
>>813331
Come back when Polina gives you the good old Shibari.Or latex bondage.
Otherwise, fuck off
▶ No.813761>>813769
>>804156 (OP)
Jesus christ this is some shit-tier trolling. They gave money to an email service. Not to Antifa. fucking retards.
▶ No.813769>>813833
>>813761
This is the standard in all the imageboards. People actually want to post shit while ignoring accuracy and clarity. This actually influences their worldview and many take on these shit posts as an accurate reflection of the issues.
▶ No.813799>>813802
Tails is a Riseup project, is mostly riseup devs and even uses RiseupLabs to handle donations.
https://tails.boum.org/donate/
>Your donation goes entirely to Tails and will be handled by RiseupLabs which is a 501(c)(3) non-profit organization in the USA.
Why is Bryan Lunduke interviewing antifa and promoting their software?
▶ No.813802
>>813799
Any kind of open source software is eligible for Lunduke's time.
▶ No.813833>>813836
>>813769
>this actually influences their worldview and many take on these shit posts as an accurate reflection of the issues.
I never though of it this way. spooky
▶ No.813836>>814258
>>813833
It's very common everywhere in life and the imageboards are no exception. In all the memeing and shitting that's pushed forward, they fail to examine the exact details of the scenario. The consequence is that they take on knowledge that is fuzzy, unclear and not completely accurate. When you collect a lot of knowledge that is unclear and not accurate, you develop a really shitty worldview. This is why I try to avoid memeing in the serious business threads.
▶ No.814239
>>804166
>Wears panties with a fucking meme frog
>Clearly a violent psycho bitch with daddy issues
>Probably sucks a million dicks a year
▶ No.814249>>814309
MOZILLA = NIGGERS AND JEWS
▶ No.814250>>814274
>>813097
>this organization that supports antifa and provides antifa with services doesn't publicly say they have the exact same ideology as antifa, they say they have a slightly different ideology than antifa
>therefore, they're not related to antifa at all
>UGH, educate yourself!
Why is /leftypol/ so obvious?
▶ No.814258>>814263
>>813836
>The consequence is that they take on knowledge that is fuzzy, unclear and not completely accurate.
An example of this is the "botnet" meme and how malware, adware, spyware, telemetry, security exploits, backdoors, proprietary software and closed source software all get lumped together in a very confused mess.
▶ No.814263>>814303
>>814258
>malware
>adware
>spyware
>telemetry
>proprietary software
<implying any of that is in any way different from each other
▶ No.814274>>814284
>>814250
to antifa *in particular*, though?
you're just fucking saying
>their ideology is similar to antifas and they dont arbitrarially deny antifa service therfore they're literally antifa
>or at least actively supporting them
being on the "same side" doesnt imply actual ties of some kind. if you're a white nationalist, that doesnt mean you have ties with the KKK.
▶ No.814284
>>814274
No, /leftypol/, I said that they're antifa because they provide services to antifa, and specifically to antifa. They don't provide services to just anyone. They only provide services to those they deem to be good activists working towards goals they support. Given that they provide services to antifa, this indicates they directly support antifa.
Also,
>being on the same side doesn't imply actual ties
This is the most jewish arguing tactic I've heard out of /leftypol/ for a while now. I guess the leadership is actually doing some legwork for a change.
▶ No.814303>>814305
>>814263
They are. That was exactly the point. A program reporting anonymous usage statistics is not equivalent to ransomware or a DOS game from the 80s that hasn't been open sourced.
▶ No.814305>>814772
>>814303
>"anonymous" user statistics
If it's being sent over my internet connection and it contains any data about what's going on on my computer, it is not anonymous.
>DOS game from the 80s
>implying that's what people actually mean when they talk about "proprietary software"
<"Google Chrome being closed source and not allowing you to see what's going on in the background as it shovels every scrap of information it can find about you to some third party advertising company and the NSA is much more similar to some abandonware DOS game from the 80s than is to spyware, guys!"
▶ No.814309
▶ No.814772>>814871
>>814305
>If it's being sent over my internet connection and it contains any data about what's going on on my computer, it is not anonymous.
It can be anonymous, and at any rate you are just trying to change the topic after realizing how full of fuck you are.
>implying that's what people actually mean when they talk about "proprietary software"
It is proprietary software.
▶ No.814871>>815136
>>814772
>it can be anonymous
Seriously nigger? Please explain to me how information disclosing what's going on on my computer, with my IP address stamped to it, is anonymous.
>it is proprietary software
Because obviously when someone is referring to Chrome or Windows as "proprietary", they're comparing it to old DOS abandonware and not to spyware that sells all your private information to the NSA. Of course, the 1000000% literal definition is exactly what they are referring to.
Are you fucking autistic? Serious question.
▶ No.815136>>815227
>>814871
>Are you fucking autistic? Serious question.
This coming from someone arguing that malware, adware, spyware, telemetry, security exploits, backdoors, proprietary software and closed source software are all the same thing, all "botnet."
Just fuck off already.
▶ No.815137>>815227
Oh, and:
>Because obviously when someone is referring to Chrome or Windows as "proprietary", they're comparing it to old DOS abandonware and not to spyware that sells all your private information to the NSA
Yeah, if it's "proprietary" then it has to be spyware and has to be sending your info to the NSA. That's what proprietary means, right? hue huehueuheuhuehue
▶ No.815227>>815314
>>815136
Given the extremely substantial overlap between what they do, I'd say it's accurate to say they're all alike.
Also, you still haven't explained how information about what's going on on my computer with my IP address attached is somehow "anonymous." I'd really like that explanation, please.
>>815137
Well, given that that's what all software /tech/ refers to as "proprietary" (Windows, Chrome, Skype, etc) does, I'd say that it's pretty accurate to say that proprietary = spyware.
▶ No.815314>>815343
>>815227
No, it is not accurate. No, proprietary does not mean your data is being sent to the NSA. YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT YOU STUPID FUCKING CHILD.
For fuck's sake, am I the only person on /tech/ with even elementary computer literacy?
▶ No.815343>>815347
>>815314
>No, proprietary does not mean your data is being sent to the NSA
So what are Windows and Chrome doing in the background that they don't want the goyim to know about?
>am I the only person on /tech/ with even elementary computer literacy
Are you also enlightened by your own intelligence?
▶ No.815347>>815350
>>815343
The fuck does it matter what they're doing? Just fucking stop. You have no idea what proprietary software means. Or what anything in general means.
>Are you also enlightened by your own intelligence?
Jesus fucking CHRIST you are stupid. An absolute fucking dumbshit.
▶ No.815350>>815352
>>815347
>the fuck does it matter what they're doing?
>Oy vey goy, why do you care about what information we're sending to three letter agencies?
>It's all to keep you safe and protected goy!
>Now be a good goyim and update your location on facebook, send "anonymous" statistics to Google through Chrome, and update to Windows 10 so you can get the true Windows experience!
▶ No.815352>>815359
>>815350
Chrome could be fucking scooping up your brain and shipping it to the NSA moonbase using an Amazon drone and it would not make one fucking bit of difference to what we are talking about. You fucking idiot.
▶ No.815359>>815360
>>815352
>what we're talking about
What we're talking about is how you seem to think that just because a program being closed source doesn't necessarily mean that it's scraping user data, that makes it incorrect for people on /tech/ to refer to suspicious closed-source programs as "proprietary."
I'm pointing out that, as 99% of all closed source programs mine user data, conflating the terms "spyware" and "proprietary software" is fairly accurate.
You, on the other hand, are claiming that because 1% of all proprietary software, mostly old abandonware programs and '90s video games, does not conform to this use of the word "proprietary," it is inaccurate to use the terms as if they are the same. You do this because you are profoundly autistic, and think that because technically a term is not true for 1% of all cases, it is therefore incorrect in general.
▶ No.815360>>815372
>>815359
What we are talking about, you fucking idiot, is your entirely mistaken assumption that "proprietary software" is necessarily equivalent to spyware. A proprietary software could be converting your keystrokes into synthesized fart noises. IT COULD DO LITERALLY ANYTHING, BECAUSE "PROPRIETARY" DOES NOT MEAN ANY SPECIFIC KIND OF PROGRAM YOU FUCKING MORON.
▶ No.815372>>815376
>>815360
>your entirely mistaken assumption that "proprietary software" is necessarily equivalent to spyware
When that is the case 99% of the time, I think that's a safe assumption to make.
>IT COULD DO LITERALLY ANYTHING
And given that 99% of the time the list of things a piece of proprietary software is doing includes "spying on the user", I think it's safe to group the characteristics of "this program is proprietary" and "this program spies on the user" together.
Seriously m8, you seem to be having a difficult time understanding this. I'm responding to you in my spare time between sets, and I seem to be following what you're saying more easily than you're following what I'm saying. I think you should try taking a DEEP BREATH, counting to ten, and rereading the thread.
▶ No.815376>>815379
>>815372
It isn't the case 99% of the time you fucking meme-spewing idiot who doesn't know shit about anything. Fucking RETARD.
▶ No.815379>>815380
>>815376
>it isn't the case 99% of the time!
Chrome...
Windows...
Mac OS...
Chrome OS...
God knows how many iPhone apps...
Just about every Android app that involves editing data or using a VPN...
Amazon Echo...
Google Home...
LG smart watches that report user location...
Lenovo BIOS spyware...
Every "smart" TV/thermostat/appliance...
nVidia GeForce libraries that report user information...
https://www.gnu.org/proprietary/proprietary-surveillance.en.html
>fucking RETARD
U mad bro? Because you seem mad.
▶ No.815380>>815381
>>815379
DO YOU HAVE ANY FUCKING IDEA HOW MANY PROPRIETARY PROGRAMS EXIST AND HAVE EVER EXISTED YOU FUCKING RETARD????????????????????????????????????????
▶ No.815381>>815383
>>815380
>the proprietary programs that people use 99% of the time all whore out every scrap of data they get from you
>I BET YOU DIDN'T KNOW THAT SOME RANDOM AUTOCAD PROGRAM USED BY LESS THAN 1% OF PEOPLE AND A 25 YEAR OLD ABANDONWARE GAME NO ONE PLAYS ANYMORE AREN'T PROVEN TO BE MALICIOUS! SO THERE!
Seriously man, stop while you're not too far behind.
>YOU FUCKING RETARD????????????????????????????????????????
Seriously, you need to stop. I'm doing bench presses now and if you don't stop making me laugh I'm going to drop the bar on my chest and suffocate myself. If you're going to be this NOT EVEN MAD, at least wait until I've got a spotter.
▶ No.815383>>815384
>>815381
YOU ARE SO FUCKING DUMB AND IGNORANT THAT THE ONLY FUCKING COMPUTER PROGRAMS YOU ARE EVEN AWARE OF ARE ONES THAT GET MEMED ON IMAGEBOARDS
JESUS
FUCKING
CHRIST
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>>815383
>the programs used by 99% of people 99% of the time don't matter
>the ones used by a few select people for specific applications do
This is getting embarrassing anon.
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>>815384
WHAT IS EMBARRASING HERE IS THAT YOU ARE COMPLETELY FUCKING IGNORANT ABOUT ANYTHING RELATED TO COMPUTERS YET YOU ARE STILL HERE TRYING TO ARGUE ABOUT THIS AND PRETENDING LIKE YOU FUCKING KNOW ANYTHING
KILL YOURSELF
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>>815386
You really seem to be getting worked up by not very much anon. You should try not getting mad so easily.
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>>804167
No, it's like saying godaddy is a faggot because they gave you anal sex.
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>>815391
I HAVE AWAKENED THE AUTIST!
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>>812295
>somebody speaks against your hysteria
>"it must be da joos/shitlibs/etc"
like clockwork