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Why not just use a silicone based key press? I mean sure the mechanical key is more durable if dropped. But just buy a new keyboard since they are dirt cheap.

>>803500 (OP)

Only poorfags use anything other than Topre.

>>803509

That's literally a el cheapo dell keyboard with a backlight. Do you even touch type?

>>803500 (OP)

I currently have a keeb with reds. It's pretty nice, but at some point I would like to get one with blues. The only one I know I can't stand is the little bump ones. I think they're the browns and the clears. Those are trash.

>>803514

Whats the point of any other keyboard than one that accomodates for touch typists? Like I could see a keyboard backlight for newfags/gamers. But after that just remap keys for actions.

the keyboard on my iphone tbh

Brown.

I use a keyboard with MX browns and dampening rings. It feels just fine and doesn't sound loud as fuck. I thought about getting MX blues but my last keyboard had ALPS blues and on those the clickiness was a novelty that got boring fast.

>>803504

you can get half-decent Chinese mech keyboards for around $30 these days.

>>803526

>>803527

Serious question: what's the point of buying a mechanical keyboard if it's going to feel mushy anyway? What's the difference between a brown or a red and a normal rubber dome keyboard? I ask as an owner of a browns keyboard. I guess the main difference it just key travel and responsiveness.

>>803531

Browns are the only quiet switches that aren't shitty linear switches. The accentuation force is lower than blues too. browns only feel mushy because you're nigger smashing the keys, you caveman

>>803531

Well a mechanical keyboard makes it more obvious to your brain if you actually pressed down on a key. Along with it being more difficult to press a key right next to it becase it takes more strength to press it down then a silicone keyboard.

>>803531

What do you mean by mushy? I'm pushing keys and the tactile feedback of the brown switch slows my keypress until it hits an obvious "click", where the key actuates.

Is your keyboard second hand? If the previous owner got a lot of use out of it that might have an effect on how the keys feel.

>>803534

>meme keys > anything

lmao idiot

>>803512

THIS!

Modern 'clones' of the Model-F key keyboard run for $400+

There's something about blues that bothers me. Sometimes I don't bottom out and I can't really tell if the switch has triggered, so it really interferes with my touch typing. I never had that problem on a membrane. I've adjusted to it but even a year later it still feels strange. I just assume now that if I have to question it, it activated - it's a very good chance it did.

i use the cheapest $10 keyboard i could find at wal mart even though i have 2 very expensive clackey key autismboards, i'd rather just replace this piece of shit than have to clean the other ones over and over. i'm a lazy degenerate and used to smoke weed over them and they're filled with dust.

can i just spray them down with ISO and then the garden hose before leaving them to dry for a week or so?

t. no dishwasher

>>803552

Why use alcohol? Just clean with distilled water and let it dry thouroghly.

>>803552

Mechanical keyboards have electronics in them. Spraying them with water will fuck them up.

>Pop keys

>Soak keys in cold water Don't use warm, it warps the keys

>Clean insides with a damp cloth, or with some rubbing alcohol

>Drain keys and dry them on a towel or something

>Put it back together

Get something to cover the keyboard when you aren't using it. It helps with dust, so you won't have to clean your keyboard as often.

No one else uses cherry greens?

>>803557

Distilled water is generally pretty safe for electronics if you dry it quickly and thouroughly. Tap water and the like have dissolved salts, and that's what fucks it up. Pure water is a pretty shit conductor.

That being said, there isn't much of a need to dump any significant amount of water on your keyboard unless you spill soda or some other horrible liquid on it.

>>803557

>pop keys

>throw them away

>buy new ones

>>803547

You have a point w.r.t. cheap mice. Gamer mice are a scam.

But mechanical is objectively superior for keyboards.

>>803544

>meme keys

All these fucking cherry switches are the real meme. Alps have been based as fuck since day 1, cherry is just a reddit meme.

Topre is like typing on a mother's love. Buckling springs are great, but way too loud and they make my fingers tired and sore after a couple hours.

>>803529

This. If you can deal with the gaymurrrr as fuck keycap font, the redragon kumara is a bretty gud keyboard. Been using one for about six months and it has relieved so much of my hand and wrist pain that I can now type for hours again.

Ignore all the shit calling it a gamer keyboard, it's a tenkeyless Chinese mech where the switches are "supposed" to be comparable to greens, but they feel and sound exactly like real blues. Maybe requiring like 5% less actuation force.

I have Motospeed CK104 with blue switches and I hate them. They are too loud for me. Which ones would you recommend? Brown or red switches?

I'm thinking about buying Corsair K95 Platinum.

>>803714

The store I got doesn't have that shit.

>>803687

Are you shitting my cock? I agree Cherry MX is on the bottom rung of Mechanical keyboards, but Topre is just expensive, glorified rubber dome. It doesn't even qualify.

>>803809

Good rubber domes aren't even as bad as most people say it is. Since all the elitism is behind mechanical boards, nobody bothers classifying the good ones from the bad ones. The old Microsoft wired keyboards are incredibly good for the price, you could get those fuckers for like 10 bucks or less, and they last forever without a single bit of maintenance.

>>803738

No. Buying without research, especially cheap chink keyboards is not advisable. Thanks to cucks who will buy anything (gaymers, muh aesthetics faggots), vendors get away with not listing 90% of specs (e.g. keycap material and printing method, switch type, plate material, chassis material), and there's plenty of shit that can go wrong.

>KVM switch compatibility

>no 6KRO-NKRO switching (keyboard may have issues in BIOS or with some other software)

>shitty NKRO implementation (e.g. holding [a yields [a[a[a[a)

>no mention of what brand switches keyboard has (most likely shitty Kailhs or sth)

>crappy, sluggish, bloated chink software with retarded UI that controls most of the keyboard without which you lose like 75% of features (e.g. Corsair, and especially (((Razer))))

>other various problems not mentioned anywhere (e.g. aluminum chassis corrosion, (((Razer))) Blackwidow Chroma X rusting)

>shitty QA (especially for known bad models)

>crappy pad-printed legends (enjoy faded legends in 1 year)

>>803678

>Gamer mice are a scam.

Crappy sensors can't track accurately at high speeds, which is needed by muh 0.0001 DPI 'low-sens' autists playing CS:GO swinging their arms all the time. Also, jitter and angle snapping in bad sensors/firmware are shit for games. Good switches that last a lot longer than some generic mouse's are another plus.

>>803512

Also, reported for posting thumbnail as image #1.

>>803818

While I agree with doing research into what you're buying before you buy it, I have never had a bad experience with chinkshit keyboards. Maybe I got lucky.

I love the feeling of the clicky switches but I hate the sound.

>>803809

That is untrue. They are more lile ancross betwren spring and dome keyboards, if anything. However, topre switches are the best for key feel, hands down.

>>803850

*more like a cross between

(I am a phoneposter)

>>803534

>>803509

>>803687

>>803850

What exactly do topre switches feel like? Mushy, clicky, linear? Good key travel?

>>803550

>There's something about blues that bothers me. Sometimes I don't bottom out and I can't really tell if the switch has triggered

wtf. that's the opposite of how blues work.

>>803738

>redragon kumara

That one is pretty disgusting looking. The MechanicalEagle boards are just as cheap but with barely any gamer shit.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01I1N6N3U/ref=twister_B073B2G8HF?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1

>>803818

>KVM switch compatibility

>no 6KRO-NKRO switching (keyboard may have issues in BIOS or with some other software)

>shitty NKRO implementation (e.g. holding [a yields [a[a[a[a)

Edge cases.

>no mention of what brand switches keyboard has (most likely shitty Kailhs or sth)

You can usually find this somewhere.

>crappy, sluggish, bloated chink software with retarded UI that controls most of the keyboard without which you lose like 75% of features (e.g. Corsair, and especially (((Razer))))

I'm plugging it into my Linux machine for real work anyway, all I need is basic compatibility.

>other various problems not mentioned anywhere (e.g. aluminum chassis corrosion, (((Razer))) Blackwidow Chroma X rusting)

So don't go swimming with it.

>shitty QA (especially for known bad models)

This is a problem. You can get ones with dead switches, etc.

>crappy pad-printed legends (enjoy faded legends in 1 year)

There are cheap models with double-injected ABS keys now.

>>803861

>What exactly do topre switches feel like?

>The rubber dome provides most of the resistance and tactile feel.

Glorified rubber dome shit.

>look up switch comparison videos

>guy does typing demo

>can't touch type

lmao

>>803861

Linear, not clicky, they bottom out easily (at least on my HHKB). Like a Model M but much less harder to press.

>>803905

Mech keyboards are like Gunpla, the only people that collect them are useless NEETs, and the contributors towards society are mash-brained macfaggots who enjoy a bee's dick of travel before bottoming out the key. I'm from Buenos Aires and I say kill 'em all.

>>803797

>The store I got doesn't have that shit.

What is ｢｢｢AliExpress｣｣｣?

topre = rubber trash for hipsters

buckling = exhausting clunkies for 40 wpm hipsters

alps = good, but overpriced

cherry mx = objectively the best & very affordable

red and green are underrated

>>804505

What about Gatreons? I heard they are like cherries, but slightly different/better

>>803823

silent reds are great for those who want that crisp mechanical switch feel while not being obnoxious.

>>803500 (OP)

Blues: For when you want to wake up the whole neighborhood.

I've tried the Razer Green and Orange (quieter) switches, and the loud ass Green ones are by far my favorite. Pretty loud but I live alone.

I have special rubber domes from the 90s, but I'm thinking of grabbing one of those FOSS split keyboards and throwing a Trackpoint IV on it. Anyone else know of split boards with Trackpoint e.g. Ultimate Hacking Keyboard?

brown for life, your opinions are bad

>>803500 (OP)

mx blues aren't instant, like the click isn't in sync with the actual actuation point, although I like buckling springs because they just drop when you hit, but the travel time is too long for me and really heavy. although get the model f meme get the clones with actual keyboard layouts because actual nkro.

mx browns feel kinda crap, mx blues are just loud but the cherry mx switches are consistent.

I do like the idea of torpes, but I don't get the whole going slow at press then sliding in after the that bump.

I just want 1mm travel buckling springs that aren't heavy to press so i can go fast

>>803905

if you're talking homerow-autism touch type, not that big of a deal but if they're holding the camera, you can't show off using two hands, cause one is holding the camera. However, it's extremely bad when they mention how actually slow their wpm and it's not in the 100+ zone.

>>804505

Alps are generally cheaper than cherry.

You must be a reddit user, because cherry is a meme spread by reddit subhumans and sub-3 month geekhackers

CLACK CLACK CLACK CLACK TIKA CLACK CLACK CLACK CLACK CLACK CLACK CLACK CLACK

You're right though they're really nice to type on.

Black > brown

I bottom out when i type. I prefer RD or what I currently use, Cherry Blacks with 2mm O-rings to blues/browns/buckling springs, I tried topre a very long time ago, I forget exactly what it felt like but I'd probably get one if this keyboard ever dies

Beam Spring > Topre > Capacitative Buckling Springs > Alps > Buckling Spring > mx blue > red = brown = scissor switch > memebrane

Sorry for the double post but, I can't believe you niggers don't know beam spring.

>>813168

White > black = brown

I use silver (speed) switches because I'm a gaymur. They are silent and sensitive as fuck, but for what I use them for, they are perfect. I tried going back to my brown switches and they felt laggy and slow as fuck. For typing, silvers are above average, definitely take time to get used to.

>>803546

>Modern 'clones' of the Model-F key keyboard run for $400+

As I'm not super rich, I just got a ~$100 Unicomp, the modern Model M.

>>813345

I'm sure you know this already, but Model-F != Model-M. Model-F is capacitive switch buckling spring while Model-M is membrane.

>>803522

>Implying browns with dampeners aren't the best

scissor switch is the best switch design, stop falling for the blue/brown/etc switch meme

>>814730

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>>803500 (OP)

>That smooth, resistance-free gliding sensation

>Then that sudden *click*

I'm no doctor, but that doesn't sound normal.

>Cure your carpal tunnel syndrome

What exactly are you shoving in there?

>>814730

The only thing I like scissor switches is their flat profile, which means you can hit combinations like de and ed with one stroke and no awkwardness, which is impossible with most keyboards being slanted and having non-flat profiles.

Also blue switches a shit: inconsistent clicking, asymmetrical actuation/reset points, may develop rattling, noise will make anyone close by hate you.

>>804265

>much less harder

You mean easier?

>>816342

If you're deaf already, yes

>>814845

> inconsistent clicking, asymmetrical actuation/reset points

Never had issues with either of these.

> may develop rattling

Every mechanical switch can fail or break, which is why it's so nice that it's trivial to replace a keyswitch with a soldering iron. It's like two contacts to desolder and resolder, and replacement switches are dirt-cheap.

> noise will make anyone close by hate you

Valid complaint, but if you're using blues, this probably isn't a problem for you. I have a keyboard with browns and one with blues so I can switch out when I need something quiet (especially when on a conference call).

>>816351

I've had both Blues and Greens and I haven't noticed the Greens being particularly louder, they're just a heavier switch.

>>813230

>implying you tried out 10 different types of keyboard mechanism

>implying you aren't just shitposting