/tech/ - Technology★

>>802812 (OP)

>5G connectivity paired up with the emerging Internet of Things

OF COURSE within the first mentions the internet of shit crawls in.

Why should anyone in the general population be excited about going full botnet? You could imagine why CIAniggers might be fond of this, but they're also morons as IOT is already super exploitable by anyone. This just goes to show that "advancing" technology aimlessly is retarded. Sometimes low-tech solutions are more practical. You do not need your toilet to be hooked up to the internet.

INTERNET OF TUMORS

Burn it with fire

>>802815

Of course everyone will be excited for "omg more internets" even if they don't know what that means.

>>802889

Yeah, the only real threshold for internet speed is "can it fetch 1080p video faster than real time?" Even if the answer if no, you can just keep it paused in the background or use youtube-dl etc.

All other uses are bottlenecked by shit latency due to >mobile and bloated web2.0 designs. The battery drain adds another issue.

This shit is mostly for normalfags - sales rep tells them "it's faster", and normalfags think "oh 5 gigabytes is more than 4 gigabytes so it's better". Since they are too retarded to accurately gauge their internet quality, confirmation bias kicks in and they think because a youtube video sounds extra loud that means the internet is faster.

The one niche use is tethering, but tiny mobile data caps fuck that up anyway... Hey, I've got an idea, why don't they measure internet speed in how many seconds it takes for you to fill up your monthly data cap?

>>802889

near zero latency to the tower which is nice but this shit is really sketchy.

We could have had free long range wifi, but "5G" is more profitable and better for surveillance, so we get this shit instead.

Neurolace coming soon faggots

>Muh I love modernity

>Computers are the greatest invention ever

>It's just that it's badly used

>Computers would never have emerged with industrialisation, and so the wage slavery of western people, and the colonisation, being the, well, slavery of other people around the world

>the whole thing is shit from its root to its summit

>professional atheism

>TIPS

TIPS TIPS TIPS TIPSI PTSIPTISTIOSITPSTIPSTIPSTIPISTIPSTPISTIPIPSTIPST

> Also, due to 5G’s near-zero latency, autonomous cars will have the necessary reaction time to engage the brakes inches from obstacles, a feat also not possible on the 4G network

Fucking stupid. No sane manufacturer would make braking for an obstacle dependent on the network. Lights, conditions, and other things, sure, but without networkless failsafes, a network hiccup or internet fuckup (which happen all the time; just last week a Qwest screwup in Denver killed internet connections between all of southern Colorado and most of Kentucky) can instantly turn an intersection into a bloody deathtrap.

Low-latency and high bandwidth are important, but this is the worst example possible.

> every aspect of life will find itself integrated with the digital realm

Gee, I haven't been hearing this for the past 20 years.

>>802812 (OP)

>network that provides instant transmission

lmao fuck laws of nature

/cyber/ was supposed to be a warning.

Networking guy here. 5G is a very long way away (the plan is 2027) and very little has been decided about it.

Qualcomm on the other hand is fucked and is doing mass layoffs, benefits packages have been slashed, and they've just gone on a huge advertising binge about how great they are (you're reading a Qualcomm ad pretending to be news) despite having done nearly no advertising in the past. They're likely looking for a buyer.

>>803071

It's coming in 2020 and 3gpp released their spec few days ago.

Yeah, ok. Did we all forget about what was promised with 4g?

>ALL of the current providers who claim to have a 4G network (T-Mobile, Verizon, and Sprint for example) are essentially committing false advertisement, or in other words, lying to the general public (*but are doing so with the consent of the ITU)

Now, let’s address this topic from a more technological standpoint, and cover why current “4G” is not “real 4G.” As we now understand, 4G is a set of telecommunications standards, as defined by the ITU (International Telecommunications Union) way back in 2008. According to these standards, in order for a carrier to qualify as a 4G provider they must be able to support download speeds of 100 Mbit/s for high mobility communications (trains, cars, etc.) and 1 Gbit/s for low mobility communications (pedestrians, stationary users). Currently, not one of the carriers branded as a 4G provider have met these standards, and are therefore not truly 4G networks. As blatantly stated by the ITU, “Any claim that a particular technology is a 4G technology or system today is, in reality, simply a market positioning statement by the respective technology advocate.” However, all major carriers that label their networks as “4G” are allowed to do so by the ITU because they are implementing technology to meet 4G standards as we speak, and will actually have real 4G networks in the very near future. Get excited.

http://www. hoperun.net/hrtc/the-plain-and-simple-truth-what-is-4g/

This was in the early 2010s. We never got "4g", and now we're talking about how amazing 5g will be. It's all bullshit, as >>803071 said, this is a paid PR piece to hype up Qualcomm.

>what is free software

>what are constant security updates

You winfag luddites need to stop posting on this board. If your shitty proprietary puter constantly gets viruses from downloading porn, it doesn't mean that properly developed gnu+linux-based IoT system would do the same.

>trunews

Wordfilter that, mods. It's not even funny anymore.

>long latencies

>data caps

Oops, I guess, this technology is not for 3rd world countries like clappistan.

>lmao fuck laws of nature

t. brainlet never heard of quantum teleport

>>803076

>>what is free software

>>what are constant security updates

>You winfag luddites need to stop posting on this board. If your shitty proprietary puter constantly gets viruses from downloading porn, it doesn't mean that properly developed gnu+linux-based IoT system would do the same.

You are stupid and I bet you support economic liberalism. It is more profitable to not make "properly developed gnu+linux-based IoT system[s]".

>>lmao fuck laws of nature

>t. brainlet never heard of quantum teleport

Propagation of information is limited by c, "muh quantum maymay" is not an argument.

>>802812 (OP)

<Most people barely noticed the change from 3G---third generation—wireless Internet to 4G

>people barely noticed the difference from dial-up speeds to DSL speeds

Whether this is you or the article author saying this, it's retarded.

>>802889

>dial-up speeds of 3G vs DSL speeds of LTE is imperceptible

Are you retarded or some autist that visits text-only internet content on the phone?

>it's a "hurr technology should have stopped 20 years ago because I'm retarded and some people use tech wrong" poster

>>803048

>being a kascynski shill

>>803071

Chipset maker, right? I can think of an "american" based company whose business MO is buying up all allied and competing companies they can because they can't do shit themselves while killing off the american jobs in favor of moving them overseas that would probably jump right on that.

>>803076

>autistic linuxfag sucking the dick of stallmeme screeches about shit that has nothing to do with the topic and shills in favor of the Internet of Shit

>>>/suicide/

>>803150

Well theoretically you could stream 720p video over 3g using vp9 and get reasonable playback speeds/buffering. But the performance without hardware acceleration will be shit for phones. That's not taking into account the shitty baggage on every page load ala 12MB youtube pajeetscript botnets.

LTE barely covers all of that at the cost of battery drain to the extreme and no FOSS equivelent for modem firmware. 5G/cancer is just a shit marketing meme that needs to burn with fire. Otherwise it will literally be spreading cancer via EM waves. What needs to be done is website makers/youtube not using such shit tools and advertising/botnet bloat. Along with actually optimizing phones to not be such shitty bloated botnets. Let users turn it into a botnet. Not come preinstalled as a botnet.

>>803073

You're free to believe that. But I told you what's actually happening.

>>803150

It's going to be a hard sell. Qualcomm is "American". They've almost entirely replaced their white staff with Pajeets, many of whom are overstays and several I know simply walked in from Canada, and their employees help hold the door open. It's like an underground railroad for illegals. Whenever I have to go over there, I'm the only WHITE MALE in the building. All the competent people left years ago.

They've also lost control at a management level. When you're hired by them, that's just getting in the door. You're expected to then look around inside and find a project that wants to use you, or eventually end up culled in a mass firing. It's like an arena and these pseudo-employees are expected to fight each other for work. This leads to sabotaging one another and other not-getting-shit-accomplished behaviors.

>>802812 (OP)

I don't know much about phones and all this g shit I just need it to make calls and send texts, but how long will 3G, 3.5G and 4G networks exist? I was finally forced to upgrade from my old phone of 12 years, and I don't want to have to upgrade every 2-3 years because they changed some shit I don't care about.

>>803232

T.not secret agent

>>803150

>dial-up speeds of 3G vs DSL speeds of LTE is imperceptible

>Are you retarded or some autist that visits text-only internet content on the phone?

you dumb idiot 3G (HSPA) can receive 720p videos in realtime. Don't pretend you need 1080p or 4k to be watched on this tiny screens. All other things like files, websites, images work very fast.

4G is useless for mobile devices, it could maybe be useful for desktop PC's in remote areas (external antenna needed).

Protocol seven should not be developed in this timeline.

>>802812 (OP)

Implying nigger kike faggot isps/carriers wont ruin it before its even deployed in every way possible

just in time for them to turn your smart phone into a total thin client and stream the whole os over the internet.

We don't need 5G, 4G is enough for me to shitpost and I switch on 2G occasionally to save battery at work.

>>807438

Isn't all of this IoT bullshit why the 60GHz ISM bands are being pushed?

I still cant figure out why my things need internet.

>>802813

You can't stop the tide.

>>807476

So what, you don't have to use any of that shit. I never bought smartphone. I'm still using cat-5 instead of wifi. Never got myspace/facebook/twitter accounts. At some point you have to recognize that much of this new "technology" isn't very useful but instead dangerous and insidious.

When it comes to actual technology, the modern shit sucks. Widescreen crap, shitty laptop keyboards, botnet cpus and hardware without specs. Even the fucking TVs spy on you now, and they sucked already before (it's just brainwashing propaganda machine), but somehow they figured out how to make them even worse.

>>807445

To spy on you.

Version 1.0 will sell your data.

Version 2.0 will attempt to influence you.

Version 3.0 will listen for nonconforming thought and report you.

>>807438

This is what bluetooth low-energy, lora, zigbee, lifi are made for: transferring service data from IoT crap that shouldn't to be connected to the net directly, but usually through "IoT gateways" a glorified router/firewall with constant updates that will not expose your outdated proprietary chink cameras with bare telnet port to wan. Normies are too dumb to even plug the jack. But boy, in an age of planned obsolescence, wouldn't it be convenient to know when your Smart'O'Cool™ Cloud-connected fridge goes to end it's life cycle (5 months after purchase) by politely notifying you through your iPhone™ XXX® fridge companion app that it will start thawing your freezer compartment until you pay an extra fee to prolong the warranty service? Repair and spare parts not included

But yes, there are already internet-connected fridges that run Android or WebOS, and electronic synthesizers (pianos) with companion smartphone apps too.

>>802814

They are pushing 5G especially because of IoT, so it's normal that they are mentioning it

5G.

5 times faster acquiry of brain cancer.

To kill off the brain-dead wageslaves even faster.

Armageddon can not come sooner.

>IoT

God please smite all the users of IoT, for they have opened the portal to their own hellish demise

>>802812 (OP)

>"Experts are saying that the next major advancement of wireless Internet technology will integrate every aspect of people's lives with the digital realm."

That sounds really Orwellian for some reason...

>autonomous cars will have the necessary reaction time to engage the brakes inches from obstacles

Why would you need the internet to do that? It just seems like a backdoor so that CIA niggers can jam the signal so it wouldn't work.

I doubt any of this will happen. Long before any thing of the sort happens society will probably collapse. Right now were like a Red Giant before it explodes. I imagine 2020 is probably where everything is just going to fall apart.

>>803076

>le nobody can hack linux xD

nobody does because fucking less than 1% of systems run one of your autismo distros. if they start making fagnet of faggots a reality with linux running them you can bet your ass they will be hacked.

>>810010

Nobody would ever write malware for 97% of all public facing internet servers and 60% of all mobile devices. No, that would be a ridiculous waste of time.

>>810045

I wonder how much of the node.js and rust package management is malware. They let anyone upload anything with no oversight, no reviewers, no archives, and no distro maintainers. It'd be so easy to have slipped something in at some point that backdoored the development machines of most webdevs, and there's no way to prove it hasn't happened.