/tech/ - Technology★

I like it... but I have no use for it. Convince me I need this, anon! Convince me.

>>1044801

Wireguard is going to be more secure and more auditable than IPsec and OpenVPN. That much is clear.

If this becomes commonplace, which would be sped up by Wireguard being available OOTB on all Linux systems, then you would see the benefits even if you're not implementing a VPN yourself.

If you work for a company, you might be able to VPN in if you're working remotely. Currently this would be done with IPsec or OpenVPN, but it could be done in a more secure and performant way with Wireguard in the future.

Or let's say you purchase a VPN subscription. This would make your connection faster and safer to that service.

AzireVPN is an early adopter that already supports it

https://www.azirevpn.com/

PrivateInternetAccess is waiting for it to reach a point of greater stability, but they've already backed the project with a donation.

https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/blog/2018/01/private-internet-access-proud-supporting-wireguard-project/

>>1044804

I'm interested in VPN technology, particularly it's encrypting capabilities and ability to detect hacking attacks,and reroute itself to a different modem connection network. I dunno if ll VPN's are like that, but that's how I was described.

>>1044805

I dunno if all* VPN's are like that

sorry

Why do UNIX weenies hack everything into the kernel? Operating systems in the 60s were already modular enough to have separate drivers and subsystems in supervisor mode that can be replaced and upgraded separately from the kernel. Rings and microkernels were designed to take as much out of ring 0 or supervisor mode as possible. Linux is going in the opposite direction of trends since the 60s, putting more and more in the kernel and making it part of the Linux source where the ability to use software is dependent on specific versions of Linux.

>These updated patches no longer have Zinc ship with generated Assembly code but rather the Perl files are shipped that end up generating the Assembly code.

Perl generating assembly is pure UNIX brain damage. UNIX weenies say C is "portable assembly" but they need Perl scripts to generate assembly. That's what a macro assembler does and macro assemblers are far more powerful than the C preprocessor.

Subject: future globs (was "UNIX mindset...")

RS writes, in response to the glob wars:

> 	Given the move towards kernel bloat, I fear that one
> alternative we might see some day is moving file name
> globbing into the kernel.  "Let's let namei do it; namei
> does everything!"  Blech.

Plus, namei is undoubtedly the single most hacked-over piece
of code in the entire kernel!  It was already battered ten
years ago.

Nowadays, it's more complicated than that.  First, we'll
need a System V kernel globbing interface and a BSD globbing
interface.  There will be new system calls for
this--setglbent() and getglbent() for Sys V, setfilename-
globbing() and getfilenameglobbing() for BSD.  Of course,
they'll have different arguments, and BSD will modify
namei-globbing only for the current process, while SysV will
modify it for an entire glob-group (a new conceptual
grouping of processes).

Then, V.4 will have to provide for both mechanisms.  The
selection of globbing will be based on the file system
types, a kernel examination of the process's PATH variable,
and the endian-ness of the processor in use.  Next, we'll
need POSIX globbing, which will be almost like both but not
entirely compatible with either, with switches to enable
more-nearly-BSD- like and more-nearly-SysV-like behavior.

>>1044909

Because they chose shitty Linux over the GNU Hurd. Torvalds blindly copied the kernel of Unix.

>>1044909

Perl was chosen at the preference of the programmer. Has nothing to do with C.

>>1044909

You are easily the most annoying poster on this board.

>>1044909

based

>>1044925

>triggered UNIX weenie

Why don't you offer a counter argument? Too much braindamage to come up with one?

>>1044909

based

>>1044932

based

>>1044933

> Why don't you offer a counter argument? Too much braindamage to come up with one?

I have multiple times. You ignore them and keep spamming the board with your retarded bullshit. Why would I repeatedly give the same counterarguments to your spam copypasta? It's a waste of time.

>>1044935

>I have multiple times.

Sure you have. Post links or kys, weenie.

>You ignore them and keep spamming the board with your retarded bullshit.

I'm not based LISP machine anon.

>Why would I repeatedly give the same counterarguments to your spam copypasta?

<If I just label him as a spammer/troll I don't have to give counterarguments.

Logic checks out.

>It's a waste of time.

Then GTFO out of imageboards, retard.

nice. then i dont need to do the patch hack for the kernel every time

>>1044909

It's not Linux's fault that non-monolithic systems didn't become performant until well after it became a dominant platform.

>>1044957

>Linux

>dominant

I think you meant to write Windows. Also it's GNU/Linux. Nobody uses just Linux.

>>1044957

>It's not Linux's fault that non-monolithic systems didn't become performant until well after it became a dominant platform.

Partially it is. When GNU/Linux started to work, everyone forgot about GNU, the Hurd and alternatives. Years of not knowing about GNU made it and the Hurd underdeveloped and GNU/Linux as a whole inconsistent. There are some efforts to unify the system, but one of them is unfortunately systemd. There is also the official GNU distribution - Guix System, which on the other hand is great.

>>1044962

Better idea: let's set up the first Wireguard lifetime subscription service and then disappear with the money.

>Compared to behemoths like *Swan/IPsec or OpenVPN/OpenSSL

>OpenVPN/OpenSSL

There ARE lean and secure TLS libraries though. The problem with OpenSSL as I see it is that it's unmaintainable garbage and it supports every cipher and protocol imaginable, regardless of security, 'cause muh legacy and 'cause it's fucking old as shit.

>>1044962

I'll work on the logo!

>>1045000

The TLS library might have some impact, but OpenVPN itself is bloat as well. Just one or two of the many files in it is just as large or larger than Wireguard's entire codebase.

>>1045073

Well, that does sound pretty neat.

Though, wait a sec

>Work in Progress

>WireGuard is not yet complete. You should not rely on this code. It has not undergone proper degrees of security auditing and the protocol is still subject to change.

Let's wait at least on that shit before pushing it into a kernel LMAO

>>1044788 (OP)

I was going to upbraid you for a shitty, shill-style OP it is, btw but I'm actually glad now to find out this information OP. Thanks.

illiterate here, will this wireguard works on limited environment (like, openvz vps with 128mb ram 128mb swap)? for really limited user ofc (2 user max).

i ever set openvpn on that, but apparently the openvpn killed itself when the ram are low. now i'm ended with socks5 ssh with key auth, and jailed user (because just needing socks5 proxy). i hope this new vpn protocol could gives new light for really limited environment

>>1044909

this, what happened to "do one thing and do it well"

>>1044788 (OP)

>Wireguard Might Finally Come to Linux in 5.2!!

that's great but what kind of nasties are being slipped in now that the kernel is being maintained by mentally ill bluehairs

>>1044916

If only they'd had a bit of patience to wait the 29 years and counting for HURD to be ready.

>>1045659

More like 36 years, because the development of the "GNU OS," of which the kernel is a part (as the interjection pasta likes to remind us) began in 1983. Plus there were as least two false starts in the mid and late '80s, the second of which dragged on for years while Stallman figured out whether Mach would be released under terms that permitted him to cuck everyone with the GPL.

It took 36 years to get the GNU OS to pre-alpha status. I think in another 36 years they might be ready for a beta release. Looking forward to 1.0 sometime around 2100. The good news is that if we develop space travel at a significant fraction of c, which is more likely than the HURD development picking up, it will be possible to benefit from the effects of time dilation during the wait for the HURD to become viable. Verily, I say to you, there are some shitposting here who will not taste death until they see the HURD of GNU coming in its kingdom.

The snake, finally just started to cross the river.

Prophecy foretold in advance to dull workers,

Prophecy awaits approaching to the dark age,

The black snake must slither and prey upon the beast that foretold the lie.

>>1044909

>modular

>needs a reboot to install printer drivers in Windows

>muh modularity

>muh Unix weenies

>>1045746

lol'd

I didn't think there was anyone less optimistic than I about about GNU/HURD.

>>1045748

I really fucking want Arch/Hurd to happen, but I sincerely doubt it will ever replace what I have now.

>>1045289

I'm not >>1045002 but I do know of something like that, it's called ZeroTier. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZeroTier

>>1045224

Yes it will.

>>1044962

What's the FCC's stance on high powered gimballed wireless anntenae mounted on steerable VPS drone dirigibles powered by solar energy and homemade cold fusion reactors serving as a decentralized flying VPN across the US countryside?

Would they shoot it down?

>>1048891

But that doesn't mean you shouldn't do it if you are able, because it's the right thing to do.

>>1048891

If you published all that knowledge to the Internet, what's the point of killing the genius behind all that? Won't the knowledge be already out in the public?

>>1048891

just publish it anonymously then

>>1048946

Yeah they'd probably fail if you mass distributed it with enough interest, if tesla was alive today there's no way they'd manage to confiscate all his shit. They would probably try though.

If (((they))) wanted or even cared about the enviroment the slightest instead of fucking jewing us by sending all jobs to literal third world slaves treated like animals, everyone could have free energy and solar panels is a good start to that. We'd also have and able to buy nearly infinite amounts of synthetic carbon cracked fuels for literally nothing. But it's always about the shekel.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synthetic_fuel

Humanity could be so noble and free of a lack of resources/energy/food/clean water if only the good guys won WW2.

>>1048954

You're implying the good guys didn't win WW2? top kek.

>>1048990

Now that's some quality LARPing. Good job.

>>1048980

Wouldn't it make more sense to you if we could be afforded to raise our own families without having to worry about paying for third world leeches who do nothing but breed/rape and repay us by running over white familes at christmas markets or by countless rapings of our children with police protection for years like in Rotherdam?

Due to all of this we've had to take money out of our own pockets and pay the state even though the 1% owns all the world's wealth and banks, when literal a collection of jews and various globalists who sit in luxurious offices and decide if we who are breaking are backs to pay for all this garbage are going to starve or not while transfering 36 billion dollars to Israel.

We've had nothing but liberal, and now marxist policy for 70 years now, we've had no real nationalism and no real self determination, are things getting better faggot? Are we richer? Better lives? Not at all. If you see nothing wrong about this world then why is it the "good side" that you speak of has almost 100% dictated everything since 1945, has waged millions in wars for israel and destroyed other countries who as much "dare" oppose democracy with media and finance all owned by a bunch of jews?

All that Instead of researching, instead of colonizing other planets, instead of going to space, instead of making our societies better and safer to live so that you couldn't walk outside in certain neighborhoods?

>0 argument generic response

Pathetic people like you are fucking deluded and so far up your ass you can't even see a hint of light and you think that's so fucking great while drowning in shit, you're probably living feces as well considering your NPC fag tier response.

>>1049001

It's hard to take somebody seriously when they're not interested with intellectual honesty. Why should I engage with that kind of dishonest person?

>>1049004

You're the one being dishonest lol. None of what i wrote was wrong in any way shape or form.

>>1049010

>None of what i wrote was wrong in any way shape or form.

That's where you're wrong.

>>1049011

Rich, "Muh 0 argument feels over facts". It doesn't work like that.

>>1048891

But that knowledge already exists, it's just no one does it in any commercial fashion because then the (((established scientific community))) will start to hunt them down and/or have it paraded among less-credible conspiracy theories to further sow doubt.

The best bet would be build an airship with large solar panels on top that you'd pretend are there to power the VPS but are only there to recharge the emergency battery which can power some avionics and start the backup diesel generator/APU in case the Reactors have to be shut down and restarted.

You could theoretically post the airship blueprints under an open source license as long as you leave the choice of power generation to the end user and don't specify anything about the internal powerplants beyond certain specs that the end user's generator and APU systems would have to fulfill.

For maximum shitposting have the airship host an IPFS-over-I2P node containing secrit documents about anti-scientic fusion reactors on an encrypted partition.

>>1049082

protip: the air force doesn't like unidentified aircraft floating above land