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whats wrong with dolphin

>>1035776

no image previews

vifm is pretty good, ranger is bloated but werks, thunar is comfy

>>1035780

that looks fucking awful how can you possibly defend that?

>>1035780

What's with all the wasted space?

>>1035774 (OP)

M-x image-dired

Ranger is dank

>>1035778

yeah it does have one. The default theme doesnt look as fucked up like this one >>1035780

spacefm

>>1035774 (OP)

>Why do all of them suck ass?

You are using PHP.

There's lots of nice file managers that can do a lot more than anything in Windows can. The real question is why do all the file choosers suck absolute fucking donkey balls?

>>1035791

huh...

You learn something new every day.

Thanks, anon!

>>1035785

Massive filenames plus an alignment fetish.

there is nothing wrong with windows explorer

ranger is great but it's terminal so in the end it's pointless.

Might aswell just do all file management through shell at that point

>>1035791

wut?

>>1035782

>>1035785

It's because of the fuck-long file names. I don't use that folder in this view anyway, I just needed something for a screenshot.

>>1035899

It's unironically one of the best file managers.

>>1035899

no tabs

Meh I'm using nemo and its fine except no bulk rename feature. Sure the program I use to rename gives me more features but I do miss the quick and easy rename in windows.

Also would love to be able to tag files like in mac

>>1035780

OP is right. This file manager is lousy.

Compared to Windows Explorer (ultimate trash test):

>doesn't shorten after 4 lines with ...

>thumbnails have less width than the text

>>1035774 (OP)

Thunar, PCmanFM, Midnight Commander and Emacs (dired) are comfy.

>>1035916

Install GNU/Emacs

Press and hold the meta-key (usually Alt) and press x. Let go of the meta-key. Type image-dired. Press enter. (optional) press and hold C (Control-key) and press h. Let go of the control-key. Press m.

For more info on how to use Emacs, type C-h t

>>1036114

but it's slow like a turtle :/

>>1036117

What do you mean? I haven't noticed it being slow.

>>1036114

why even use a file manager if you are going to use one that requires keyboard use

>>1036122

really fast to look into dirs instead of doing ls dirname ten times in a row

really fast ways to switch to certain places in your system

you can also use the mouse in ranger

>>1036124

>really fast

lol nope

>>1036124

hows it faster than ls and tab complete

>>1036140

see https://www.invidio.us/watch?v=8l4YVttibiI or https://www.invidio.us/watch?v=7jZdul2fC94

>>1036155 Pajeets are actually cheap and good coders.

I just use cd and ls, file managers are bloat.

>>1036170

this unironically

SpaceFM and my shell are what I use for file management.

>>1035774 (OP)

The only complaint I've had with PCmanFM is that I can't split the sidebar to have the Places list in the upper part and the directory tree in the lower.

Or at least include connected drives at the top level like other file managers (e.g. Thunar) do, without making me delve into /media every time.

>>1036179

>>1036170

kys

>>1036170

This but also lsix for terminal thumbnail support.

>>1036250

>alias cd='cd; ls'

>set shopt

>what the fugg is cat | less

btfo i hope you're not a zshnigger

>>1036250

the cd is not really needed there

>>1035774 (OP)

Are there any good file managers regarding file selection? One thing I liked about Explorer was proper previews, and you could open the folder in a separate window outside of the File Select menu. (For example, if my folder selection was in C:\shit\fuck on Windows, I could just open that in a separate window, but in nemo on Linux, if my folder selection is in /media/shit/fuck/whatever I have to browse to it manually.)

>>1036264

most file managers have tabs and you can open a directory in a new tab just like you would in a web browser

>>1036264

I'm not sure exactly what you want but emacs can likely do it

All good and well but cli filemanagers still suffer when it comes to integration with say browsers that will often start using their shitty stock filepickers

>>1035774 (OP)

As someone who actually uses Windows at work, you are full of shit. Windows Explorer is completely useless dogshit, even the worst linux file manager is ten times better.

>>1036324

this tbh

>>1035774 (OP)

>Why do all of them suck ass?

Because you didn't bother to change the config?

>>1036114

I like ranger to browse files. But I prefer mc to actually manage, move/copy them.

>>1036358

>insane defaults

Why do freetards always do this?

>>1036395

masochism

>>1035899

Honestly it's a gem in an otherwise really shitty OS. Other than no tabs, it's almost perfect.

>>1036418

>no mention of Thunar?

but there is. become a little bit whiter before posting here, nigger.

>>1036418

OP was asking for GOOD filemanagers...

>>1035971

That's the problem with Linux file managers. How do you auto-trim file names in each fm so that the icons are fucking consistent?

>>1036418

i used it before i switched to pcmanfm. it had some stability issues so i had to find something else.

What the hell is a "Linux file manager"? Most if not all of the software mentioned in this thread will happily compile and run on other Unix like platforms such as FreeBSD, OpenBSD, DragonflyBSD, NetBSD, GNU Hurd / Mach, OSX / Darwin / XNU / Mach + FreeBSD, Cygwin, et cetera.

>>1035791

The fucking madman

>>1035791

Hmm I feel that I should give guy emacs a try but something deep inside of me doesn't want me to compile emacs with X support.

>>1036425

Especially now that there's a native dark theme that isn't complete trash like the high contrast themes. It's also nice being able to play media files and preview literally everything straight from the file manager.

>>1035976

Nemo does everything I need, it's more or less perfect

>>1036426

Literally the worst part of XFCE

>>1036605

lol no

>>1036606

lol yes

>>1036607

>There is literally nothing faster or better to quickly open a shell in your desired directory

eh that's still a lol no from me

>>1036605

>right click

>open terminal in directory

I managed to cut 2 lines of greentext, checkmate.

>>1035774 (OP)

I think the more relevant question is, what kind of faggot needs special software to manage his files?

>>1036686

what kind of faggot needs a computer?

>>1036467

>>1036425

damn, my terminal that runs ranger or mc is "native dark" too.

But the explorer was good in older versions of windows. In 10 it kinda sucks because of libraries.

When you go upwards from any "special" directory, you end up at some virtual folder like my computer, libraries or something like that, not the physical parent directory. You get rid of this by using this ends up being pure chaos once you have directories expanded in the tree. Some directories are in the tree twice when you have a habit of making shortcuts (for quick access in open/save dialogs) and the directories change from the navigation in the right pane. You can turn some of this tree behaviour off but then it becomes even more useless.

Windows 7, I think, had that too in a less extreme way.

>>1036605

To be completely fair, Dolphin a terminal panel that is synchronized with the graphical view. changing directories with the terminal changes directories in the file view, and vise versa.

xfe is good.

>>1036827

lol no

>>1035780

PCmanFM

Not perfect but at least the layout is consistent, thumbnails aren't 12 different shapes, and no dumb shadows either.

Did they ever finish that bug in PCManFM where the "open directory in terminal" shortcut doesn't work if you have any spaces in the pathway?

>>1036862

delete this

>>1036862

Install SpaceFM.

Ranger is good, nnn is good, pcmanfm is good, spacefm is good

What are your complaints btw?

>>1036457

Unlike vim, emacs can do a lot of cool stuff in the gui version. You can display images and pdfs and such very well. There's a matrix client for emacs you can get and it displays pics people post in the chat perfectly. Also do a comparison of M-x tetris in the terminal and in the gui. The terminal ones look misshapen and it's hard to tell where blocks will fall. Gui looks as you'd expect. I've played vitetris which looks fine in terminal, so not sure why the emacs tetris doesn't.

>>1036114

# My favorite ranger features:

- highlight and then run :bulkrename to rename multiple files/directories in vim. Super fast to add the same text to multiple lines and make other fixes. Good for fixing up album dir names in a music folder.

- it has a copy mode where you add a file to a list, this is amazing because you can select things all over the file system at different depths and then go paste the whole list of files to one spot. Good for grabbing specific songs or books from organized directories to put in one spot to give to someone.

>>1037372

Was testing if markdown worked... it didn't.

>>1037420

$$/color{orange}{faggots}$$

$$\color{orange}{faggot oompa loompa}$$

$$\color{pink}{pinktext}$$

>>1037422

>>1037421

>>1037423

I hate you.

ranger is good, not very convient compared to mouse, gui ones tho

SpaceFM

>>1036418

>thunar

>detail file list with long names jumps around as cursor moves by default

no

ls & cd is all that is needed for a 'file manager', any thing more like image previews etc. then caja or PCmanFM are pretty decent

>>1047452

>permanent delete on copy/renaming/fat finger errors

>have to manually specify program to open a file

>slowest navigation other than scroll wheelers

The command line is a terrible file manager.

>>1047466

>>permanent delete on copy/renaming/fat finger errors

alias cp="cp -i" mv="mv -i"

>>have to manually specify program to open a file

function open(){
    while [ $# -gt 0 ]; do
	case `file -L -b --mime-type $1` in
	    text/*) vim $1;;
	    image/*) feh $1;;
            inode/directory) cd $1; ls;;
		...
	    */*) echo ukn: $1;;
	esac
	shift
    done
}

>>slowest navigation other than scroll wheelers

Faster than nautilus too.

Use Nautilus you nigger.

>>1047698

*Slowtilus

>>1035914

it has mouse and image support, and is curses, so no

also, I would recommend using the cli as file manager and program opener

>>1035779

Thunar is buggy as shit.

>>1035890

>why do all the file choosers suck absolute fucking donkey balls

Because Gnome 3 was a big fat mistake.

>>1036164

>Pajeets are good coders.

LMFAO

>>1036605

>open ranger in tmux

>images are drawn over other windows

>try to close

>miss the :

>pane contracts cancer

back to ls/find/grep for me :^(

>>1036164

The code used at the corporation where I work begs to differ.

>>1035791

doesn't work on cli emacs

X is actually fine if you don't weight it down with garbage like gnome or kde

>>1047768

Do I need KDE to use KDialog or what

>>1047822

>Do I need KDE to use KDialog or what

it might pull in a ton of libraries you don't have yet but other than that no, you don't generally need to switch DE/WM to run KDE software.

I use SpaceFM. I mostly use it for browsing images. Most other stuff I just do on the command line. The only thing it's missing is an "open here in terminal" command.

>>1047870

F4.

Eaglemode

Has a zoom interface that makes file viewing super fast, way better than any of the fag managers listed here.

Has builtin file manager functionality, but the integrated file viewing functionality is the real awesome sauce of the program.

>all the terminal faggotry

>We’ve done a cool $50 million of R & D on the Apple Human Interface. We discovered, among other things, two pertinent facts:

> * Test subjects consistently report that keyboarding is faster than mousing.

> * The stopwatch consistently proves mousing is faster than keyboarding.

That was 1989. I suggest you faggots go buy a time machine.

Clicking on entries is faster than going through them one by one or typing their name (unless it's a very huge list and you already know the name).

>>1047889

The best interface for normalfags isn't necessarily the best for autists.

>>1047889

>unless it's a very huge list

it is. I put everything in my home folder and never remove anything. Right now it has 668 entries. Good luck scrolling through that to find something.

>>1047874

Holy shit. Thank you! I can now 100% endorse SpaceFM. Best Linux file manager ever.

What's wrong with Thunar?

>>1035774 (OP)

>>1035776

he's screenshotting niche terminal file explorers on /tech/; this guy probably hasn't seen the actual state of windows file explorer since windows 98.

>>1035791

Thanks!

>>1047466

>>permanent delete on copy/renaming/fat finger errors

does this actually happen?

>>1048065

> >>1047466

>does this actually happen?

possible on both if you really fuck up and overwrite the file system itself.

for anything involving moving the file, it can fuck up in edge cases across file systems, or when running it as another user (over sudo).

Thunar is good. I tried ranger but it was useless for me. No thumbnails? Lol

>what is ls/cd/mv/cp

>>1035774 (OP)

linux has the best file manager it's called bash lmao and it has mass renaming and other batch operations built in

>>1048090

i know that quite a few of the typical command+arguments can wreck havoc if enter is hit at the wrong time or have extra space in the wrong place, but has that actually happened to anyone?

>>1048104

>dd meme

there is a reason this exists.

commands allow you to overwrite files, and not everyone can handle any more responsibility than multiple pop-ups and a trash bin (like some distros have).

>>1047636

If you're going to do that shit, you might as well just use xdg-open or integrate mailcap.

>>1048133

>responsibility

You are taking responsibility for the command line not valuing your data???? lmao

>>1048150

I am taking full responsiblity for not having a restore plan, instead I have an off-machine backup

>>1048154

So you spend all that time mitigating the pointless risks of using the command line instead of using a file manager. And you call that responsibility?

>>1048157

>you don't need backups if you use a GUI file manager

>>1048163

Congrats you are truly a big boy for being responsible and using a sword to slice your bread.

>>1048135

Those are both components of a gui system. Try putting, say, vim as your editor for text files. Whenever a gui tries to open a text file, it won't work because you won't have access to the controlling terminal.

You also have that both are doing the same thing, so why not cut out the middle man?

>>1048157

I am productive on the CLI and use my rc files and simple scripts for tasks that can be automated.

There are reasons for me to use it, and having to switch windows just to browse files seems redundant to me.

Backups are mostly for human error, but not specifically for commands like mv or rm.

>>1048213

just dont type so fast. people that type over 9000wpm never read the shit they type so those things can happen.

>>1048220

>We have a problem, if a pilot is going fast and his thumb slips when holding the yoke it may cause the fuselage to desintegrate. What do you think?

>lol just don't go so fast xDDDDDDD

Peak weenie mentallity.

>>1048239

Nigger go away.

>>1047650

what theme is that?

>>1048213

or just use ZSH with sane settings and get warned when you throw away a full directory with *.

globbing can cause unexpected behavoir, which is the only justification to ever get warnings and popups for removing sonething.

>>1048331

or just use a file manager instead of some slow ass joke of a shell

dont use a file manager at all and stick to shell commands

>>1048364

I am productive on it and having it in one window/available without X is a big plus in my productivity. I tried Ranger, but switching from my shell to another program, even in the same window, was a big stop for me.

ZSH is just really /comfy/, even without pages of configuration.

>slow-ass

it runs well on every platform I have it on. For actual scripting, POSIX.

>>1048452

so you are slow moving from ranger to shell but not typing cd ls about 1000 times per day. And the fact you use zsh instead of fish tells me exactly how work you actually do in the command line.

>>1048535

I have a job, make my hours, make my deadlines... I am fast and productive with zsh, unlike the arch + i3 ricers shilling ranger.

What are you implyimg here? zsh works for me as a shell, and I prefer to stay in the shell.

>>1048535

>about 1000 times a day

on a work day, that'd be ls or cd every 15 seconds. There might be something wrong with your workflow.

On the other hand, having to go up/down directory trees directory by directory can't possibly beat paths with globbing and autocomplete. For bookmarks, links are a good alternative.

You can't tell me that using cd the few tes you do is slower tjan having to go through the directory tree again.

>>1048550

those are good for nicely organized nerd stuff but the terminal is horrible for any multimedia things if you dont sort that too like an autist. just look at the hash filenames on this board.. you just cant know whats in them so the gui filemanager is very useful.

>>1048545

>fast and productive

Yeah at typing cd and ls. Just like gentoo NEET is fast and productive at compiling his software on his new CPU.

>>1048550

You see you fags don't even know how to use GUI tools. That's what's so funny about the stupid conclusions you draw about workflows and efficiencies.

This is why technology sucks so much. Some brainlets don't even know about existing features and revert back to caveman 'minimalism' that just wastes their time for no reason.

>>1035774 (OP)

What's even funnier is that Windows componentizes Explorer so well that anyone can create a Windows app that beats Explorer at being Explorer.

The current best file manager in the world on any OS is called XYplorer.

>>1037420

>being embarrassed by a post on a Chinese picture board

How do you even go outside anon?

>>1048092

Install w3m

>>1049716

>anon

I have a name, you know.