/tech/ - Technology

>work in webhosting

>probably going to have to stop taking money from EU

>probably going to get laid off

I, for one, support (((the artists))) as well as (((journalism))).

<caring about Europoors

>Why aren't we discussing this?

From the sheer number of people it will effect, it's pretty important. But in these here parts of the internet, the EU is already considered a lost cause.

>>1033391

>All these Jewish Lawmakers think this is all fun and dandy. Well, now try to enforce it, bitch

Why won't they be able to though? They pick one guy, send a SWAT team around to your house, and the neighbours will just stand there watching, some will even take their phones out. No one will help you fight back, and it will create a chilling effect. Most people will just assume, "he must done something very bad, like hate speech. When I use my internet, I'm talking to friends."

Also the kikes will employ bots to just post over the top 'neoNAAATSI' garbage on any free thinking forum, just to enact the shutdown.

>>1033386

Oh shit, how are all of those for-profit, wonderful websites like facebook, reddit, youtube, etc. going to make money off of other people's work, now? What are (((they))) gonna do???? I must oppose this!

good

>>1033398

This is going to do nothing to large operations. They can afford to move or to moderate. Some will even profit from this. Google, for instance, would start offering copyright identification services through their API/Developer system. They'll give you enough free periodic credits to content-match for personal and low-traffic websites. Anything larger will end up paying them a copyright tax of sorts. The data they parse through this will also help their profiling efforts, helping with their primary business model of selling your leash and personal data to the highest bidder.

>Under the final text, any online community, platform or service that has existed for three or more years, or is making €10,000,001/year or more, is responsible for ensuring that no user ever posts anything that infringes copyright, even momentarily.

Interesting how there not a single source except "small EU tech businesses, giant EU entertainment companies, artists' groups, technical experts, and human rights experts, and the largest body of concerned citizens in EU history".

This piece of quality journalism doesn't contain a single link to the copyright directive.

Why aren't we discussing this?

>>1033403

this

>when you can't even make one good thread because you're spamming to avoid losing shekels

>>1033401

>need copyright law because of muh IP

>bitch about it when copyright law is enforced because it affects your (((business model))) of ripping of other people's work

I don't believe in copyright to begin with. However, if you have copyright law, I don't see how you could argue against something like this! Plus, they are even looking out for the little guy. Thank you based (unbased) EU.

Good, big platforms are already censurious enough. This will encourage people to move underground to smaller, or more decentralized platforms if they want access to the good stuff

>>1033386 Is it really for EU? Not for China or North Korea? Where is the freedom of speech? We can excerpt something to express our thought!

>>1033418

>Is it really for EU? Not for China or North Korea? Where is the freedom of speech? We can excerpt something to express our thought!

Or just dive into botnet, because there won't be any alternative.

>>1033406

If they haven't moved off already then there is no hope for them.

The users that haven't moved are generally normalfags and most normalfags are plain retarded and will just live with the new changes, they might complain about them but that's as fair as they'll ever go.

All you have to do is look at the dumbfuck shit that youtube has done to understand that even in the presence of absolute censorship and jewery, they'll still stick to the site for largely self centered reasons.

NUKE THE EU

>>1033450

no bulli pls

>implying you aren't already posting illegal images

I'm referring to copyright infringement, of course ᶘ ᵒᴥᵒᶅ

>>1033386

the current system is really bad too. now the internet is full of takedown request bots that take down things that they should not

>>1033463

> be in the EU, but the free part ( Bulgaria )

> have 0 problems with western Europe being destroyed

> now the fascist EU government is shitting again

> America wants to nuke the EU

What is the problem? Western europe is where all the degeneracy and kikes are. just nuke them. The average british citizen would be happier if dead than alive.

>>1033533

See >>1033405 and >>1033401

This is good legislation, and /tech/ knows this, anyone who says otherwise needs to go back to cuckchan.

>>1033405

>I don't believe in copyright to begin with

Because you're not a creator, just a useless taker not even worth his carbon footprint.

It's time for terrorism

>>1033389

>being a dick-riding anti-freedom faggot who thinks fitting in is all about acting smug, cynical, and condescending

Go back to >>>/cuckchan/

>>1033551

I'm honestly surprised with the lack of homegrown terrorists. I'd assume we will start to see more though

>>1033582

Yellow Jacket "wasps" will do

Just reading comments on news sites, eurocucks are actually pretty redpilled on this

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6725413/EU-countries-copyright-reforms-aimed-Google-Facebook.html#comments

Some choice selections

>Imagine the internet becoming a state run news service like our very own BBC. This what the EU want for the web, us plebs being fed news we're allowed to hear. This alone, should have even the most ardent remainer reconsidering their point of view.

this isn't even the start of what the EU dictators have in store, yet some still want to remain ?. If by being hoodwinked and we do stay in, by the time people have realised how bad its getting, it will be too late, YOU ARE IN FOR 1000 YEARS.

>The EU want to take over all news publishing and control the information we get. They have already started to do this by stealth, like they do everything else.

Just a way to control people. (((They))) have learnt that the populace is passing on too much information they don't want us to know and it has to be stopped!

>Well people will have to find other ways to communicate, this is dictatorial tyranny in the name of reform, and (((we know those who want it))) and why.

<(((Parentheses))) added for effect

>>1033614

(((Maxwell2))) sounds like a legitimate and trustworthy person and not an astroturfer at all.

>The next step in the process is a vote by a committee of lawmakers next week followed by a parliamentary vote either next month or early April before the changes can become law.

MORE THAN A MONTH TO GO

https://archive.fo/fOykW

>Will Members of the European Parliament dare to vote for this?

lol why wouldn't they?

I don't think people more docile than the modern west have ever existed anywhere in history

and just lol at thinking politicians ever read what they vote on

they vote with the group or how (((lobbyists))) pay them to and no place has more lobbyists than the EU parliament

It won't change anything. Like the article says, it's impossible to enforce. This is just another european directive pushed by lobbyists. This "union" have to die.

>>1033674

So it turns out that what the "journalist" wrote is bullshit. Color me surprised.

>Under the final text, any online community, platform or service that has existed for three or more years, or is making €10,000,001/year or more, is responsible for ensuring that no user ever posts anything that infringes copyright, even momentarily.

>is responsible for ensuring that no user ever posts anything that infringes copyright, even momentarily.

This is literally made up bullshit which explains why there isn't a source for this claim.

It's mainly Google, Facebook, etc. and their botnets that are oy veyying over this shit. Why should I care?

(((Electronic Frontier Foundation))) founded by (((Mitch Kapor)))

>>1033542

You mean like Triple-A game publishers who rape popular franchises into creative ruin because they have monopolies over them by virtue of copyright? Or what about instances where publishers and studios refuse to relinquish IPs to the original creators to prevent them from falling into the hands of the competition? Also, creators had thrived, even financially, in the centuries without copyright law to "protect them". Copyright law only came into existence when a consortium of book publishers lobbied the British Crown to legislate a law that would give them monopolies over the works of authors. And because authors at the time lacked the equipment, they had to sign away their rights to the publishers. If you really want to help creators, stop championing what is in practice monopolization, which removes the incentive to produce quality goods and services.

>>1033694

How does any of that prevent you from creating your own content? If the top game publishers are putting out garbage, don't buy their product. You are not entitled to their labor just because you dislike their antics. There is nothing stopping you creating today, and you have a variety of options at your disposal to license it to your users.

>>1033694

>Copyright law only came into existence ... book publishers

Well no kidding, you're dealing with one of the first cases where an authors work can be duplicated at a fraction of the cost in creating the product.

>>1033679

Actually it is even worse than what he wrote:

"If no authorisation is granted, online content sharing service providers shall be liable

for unauthorised acts of communication to the public of copyright protected works

and other subject matter"

"Member States shall provide that when new online content sharing service providers

whose services have been available to the public in the Union for less than three years and

which have an annual turnover below EUR 10 million within the meaning of the Commission

recommendation 2003/361/EC, the conditions applicable to them under the liability regime

set out in paragraph 4 are limited to the compliance with the point (a)of paragraph 4 and to

acting expeditiously, upon receiving a sufficiently substantiated notice, to remove the notified

works and subject matters from its website or to disable access to them."

So the ten million per year shit doesn't even matter, YOU STILL HAVE TO DELETE YOUR SHIT.

>>1033713

>violating copyright is illegal

Wow i see. Article 13 is evil. Google is completely right. I'm going to #savetheinternet now.

Based EU

>>1033528

>The average british citizen would be happier if dead than alive.

Based and redpilled af

>>1033386

The EFF is biased af regarding to this:

https://web.archive.org/web/20180625135642/https://mewch.net/b/res/103694.html

Please read FULL text and then point out what's your actual concern. I will try to answer.

You can find the latest version at the bottom of this page: https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/HIS/?uri=CELEX:52016PC0593

>>1033970

based and lügenpresse-pilled

>>1033991

>Google and Facefuck actually block Euro IPs

This would be amazing tbh. Sadly it's not going to happen.

>>1033386

Block EU IP's when?

>>1033386

Doesn't the 2nd part literally kill every independent news yt channel like gamer nexus?

>>1033386

>any online community, platform or service that has existed for three or more years, or is making €10,000,001/year or more

Solutions:

-Reboot site after 3 years

-Fiddle the accounts to show a loss

Not an issue, this is a dying political dinosaur (EU) pretending it still has relevance.

>>1034173

>Block EU IP's when?

>MUH feels

news.slashdot.org/story/19/02/22/0515215/youtube-videos-could-get-demonetized-if-they-have-inappropriate-comments

tech.slashdot.org/story/19/02/21/1930253/facebook-continued-to-identify-users-who-are-interested-in-nazis----and-then-used-the-info-to-let-advertisers-target-them-investigation-finds

OH VEY!

So if I don't live in the EU, and my web server isn't in the EU, what are they gonna do? Set up the great firewall of Europe?

>>1034635

>what are they gonna do?

The EU doesn't care about you.

IT'S FUCKING OVER

>>1045191

>>1045191

>>1045191

>Internet platforms are liable for content that users upload

Good, as they should be

>Some uploaded material, such as memes or GIFs, now specifically excluded from directive

So nothing will change

>>1034458

>EU

>dying

They are God, just like all other kike inventions. Just give it up.

no we already have 3 threads on this and literally every half hour there is a new retard bill proposed in some country. it's fucking boring to discuss, i would go to slashdot or reddit if i cared

I know thanks to Article 11 & 13 a lot of Peoples in the Future will sit in Prison because of opposing the Laws and doing "Illegal Stuff".

Actually we have nothing to lose more!.

The EU is a Dictatorship that has violated Laws with supporting Israel, Migration, Money washing,Censorship of Speech.

The EU should be burn down with all the Leftist.

Murder them as our Ancestors did with Kings that do not listen to the Voice of the Civilians.

Only a Act of violence against our the Bureaucratic Dictatorship can help us fight back!.

Not some Peace shit keeping non violence ideas. This is not the Reality. Reality means War for the Greater Good.

Nature in itself has two sides a Brutal and a kind one.

So we need to take our Brutal Nature against the Forces of Darkness.

>>1033670

The impossible enforcement isn't going to save anybody. The site owner is responsible and has to pay a fine when something goes past the filter, if there even is a filter. It's just speculated that there will be a filter because you would need one, but the filter isn't in the law. The filter would just be a measure to try and survive the law, but that is only viable for big entities with deep pockets and even they will be hurting and might just pull out of Europe.

But small websites built around posting will just close down because of the risk. This will completely kill small websites that aren't just a blog without comments. Any small or mid sized site where users can post text, sound, images or videos will just close down. Basicly this is a different way to push through something that will have the same effect as ACTA, SOPA PIPA and all that crap they've tried so often before.

Once this goes into effect all you will be left with is corporate clearnet with cable TV like websites and newsprint like magazines and youtube. Everything else will be gone or pushed underground. Small sites have been hemorrhaging users over the last 10 year anyway but this will kill the corpses of every internet forum that ever was. They are going to kill everything. Well, in Europe at least but when other countries see how well it works in "cleaning up" the internet, they're gonna wanna do it to.

>>1033832

It used to be a site, when prompted to do so, just had to delete the violating content posted by a user and they were fine. Now that's not the case and they will be fined instead.

Hosting in Europe will die overnight and if something similar is implemented globally, the internet as we know it will die.

>>1049348

>they will be fined instead

wrong

>the internet as we know it will die

0.01$ have been deposited into your Google Wallet.

>>1033386

>Get in here

get out of here. fuck your reddit politics topics

>>1033528

as a brit i can confirm

Lots of shills in this thread.

Shut up chaim.