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Can we have a thread about anonymous (so no cjdns, no IPFS and no retroshare) distributed networks for the purpose of file sharing and shitposting?
>Tor
Primarly made for and used as a proxy to the clearnet; the network is saturated by this. The client is written in C with some welcome security features like sandboxing.
>i2p
Supposedly better than Tor, has a fork of the bittorrent protocol as filesharing. Sadly, the main implementation is a JavaPD implementation that includes everything possible.
Fortunately, there's i2pd, an actively developped C++ implementation and XD, a Go torrent application for it. It's still rough around the edges but progressing fast.
>gnunet
Don't know anything about it, except that there are some papers supporting it and the userbase is extremely tiny for now. Has filesharing builtin and an optional GTK+ GUI. It looks like its website got a facelift recently, maybe we'll see more development.
>lokinet (i2pd and monero successor)
Made by some guys including some i2pd devs because they're fed up with i2p and monero. Supposed to cure cancer and all.
For now, I think i2p is the way to go as far as anonymous filesharing goes. Any further opinions?
▶ No.1033144>>1033284 >>1033304
Tribler = It's good if it has enough exit nodes, but there is no exit node.
Freenet = Fucking shit! The police can trace Freenet users.
▶ No.1033284>>1033291
>>1033144
Freenet has plausible deniability
▶ No.1033291>>1033310 >>1033329 >>1034288 >>1046607
>>1033284 Not really. In many countries, many Freenet users were caught by the police. They believed they have plausible deniability but they didn't.
So almost all pedophiles use Tor and I2P because most pedophiles don't believe Freenet's anonymity.
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>>1033144
>Tribler
Doesn't it encourage leeching with their normalfag player?
>Freenet
Requires Jabba.
>>1033264
2/10, kill yourself if this isn't bait.
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>>1033291
>pedos use I2P
I don't think so.
It's proven that even though a lot of pedo sites are onion sites, most pedos share files on clearnet and some don't even use Tor.
▶ No.1033341>>1033344 >>1033423 >>1050320
It's all fucked.
Tor is compromised because a powerful government agency can simply take control of a bunch of nodes and see what you are connecting to, although the traffic itself is encrypted it doesn't help if you are looking at some hot shit.
Freenet has been compromised a few years ago when the police figured out a way to see what node is downloading what.
GnuNET, i2p and everything else don't have enough users to make it something actually usable.
▶ No.1033344>>1033423
>>1033341
i2p has a lot more users than GNUnet, you can't put them in the same category.
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>>1033341 Though the fact, Tor is the safest way to share pedophila contents.
>>1033344 I2P has users more than one hundred times than GNUnet's.
▶ No.1033482>>1033485
>>i2p forked
Please explain
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▶ No.1033486>>1033588
>>1033082 (OP)
>LokiNet is the reference implementation of LLARP (low latency anonymous routing protocol), a layer 3 onion routing protocol.
>LLARP
▶ No.1033554>>1033672 >>1033692 >>1035257 >>1047044
does i2p have CP? if not, then it's shit
>>1033329
>It's proven that even though a lot of pedo sites are onion sites, most pedos share files on clearnet and some don't even use Tor.
why don't they use Tor? are they brain damaged?
I use Tor for CP and it's very comfy and safe. Already collected like 2TB of materials
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>>1033486
At least they know their audience.
▶ No.1033596>>1033611
>Explain what?
My bad. The reason why they felt a need to fork.
I heard about some monero drama or something?
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>>1033596
Look at the lokinet blog, they explain it.
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>>1033554
Did you not see the whole YouTube pedo scandal recently? Pedos use fucking YouTube to communicate. I doubt they'd turn off JavaScript on Tor even if they used it.
>Already collected like 2TB of materials
Enjoy FBI raiding your house.
▶ No.1033698>>1033701
What prevents an adversary from MITMing every I2P handshake it can get its hands on? Why do we need certificate authorities to make sure we established a connection with a non-malicious server?
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>>1033698
probably nothing. with the average user you can just compromise the bootstrap servers
▶ No.1034014>>1034017 >>1034104 >>1034288
All this darknet shit is a meme.
Every single one of those networks have flaws that cannot be fixed and with enough effort and resources anyone can exploit.
▶ No.1034017>>1034018
>>1034014
You could make the same argument for encrypting your hard drive, but I'd still trust LUKS to protect me if I was selling blow and the CIA niggers kicked in my door
▶ No.1034018>>1034069
>>1034017
i use it just so people cant go through my data if i die. dont think that anyone would care but better to do it anyway.
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>>1034018 I use LUKS and VeraCrypt to hide my child pornography from the police, not the intelligence agency.
▶ No.1034104
>>1034014
theres nothing that you can do if the internet is involved in it. you have to make your own networks to be safe. all this crypto shit like i2p is just bloat that makes it annoying to use and wont even help if the glowniggers really want you.
▶ No.1034288>>1034357 >>1034720
>>1033291
Freenet is anticensorship focused rather than privacy focused. So opinions/research/archives/leaks can't be silenced, as visits keep content up and that content is distributed and held by users on the network.
>>1034014
>Everything is a meme because with infinite resources and time I am capable of anything.
▶ No.1034357>>1034358
>>1034288
>Freenet is anticensorship focused rather than privacy focused. So opinions/research/archives/leaks can't be silenced
and photos. very young photos.
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>>1034358
He's referring to child porn.
▶ No.1034720
>>1034288 Freenet is useless because the police can catch anyone who talks against the government as same to CP cases. Think about China's Internet surveillance situation.
▶ No.1034754>>1035173 >>1035196 >>1035323
So anyone using i2p to torrent successfully?
▶ No.1035173>>1035179 >>1046671
>>1034754 I2P has I2PSnark (BitTorrent) and iMule (eDonkey). Or you can use Tribler for clear net.
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>>1035173
But that means Java.
▶ No.1035196
>>1034754
i2pd with XD works well enough most of the time.
▶ No.1035257>>1047044
>>1033554
>I use Tor for CP and it's very comfy and safe. Already collected like 2TB of materials
..interesting. I'm just getting into downloading this stuff. Can you share some good .onion links?
▶ No.1035323>>1035360 >>1035810
>>1034754
It's slow. Slower than torrenting over Tor. And the selection of torrents is tiny and contains nothing I am interested in.
▶ No.1035360>>1035500
>>1035323
Slow how? 100KBps? Any way, the content can be improved; I know I'll seed all my music once I get my own not mommy's connection.
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>>1035360
Yeah this anon >>1035454 is right. Usually I2P is 5 to 10 times slower than Tor. But that probably makes mounting timing attacks on I2P harder, which is a good thing.
▶ No.1035810>>1036632
>>1035323 I usually use iMule when I share CP, but not I2PSnark because iMule has much CP.
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▶ No.1046356
I looked into gnunet once.
Firstly, the programming API documentation is absolutely horrible. Couldn't even figure out how to make a hello world program.
And then on the IRC some guy started shilling some pseudo cryptocurrency scam (not even Ripple but way shittier) and I told him why his currency isn't secure but the dude kept shilling and some admin muted me.
So that might explain why nobody uses it.
▶ No.1046607
>>1033291
Are you kidding either last time I was on free net it was a total pedo pit I2p is pretty clean if you ask me And tor is a joke now
▶ No.1046671
>>1035173
I'd rather use i2pd Because that's just all bloat I mean I could seriously do without the built in email client However a torrent client may not be to bad
▶ No.1046823>>1046826 >>1046830
Who the hell is flooding this thread I want to find this person and fuckings choke him
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>>1046823
someone based
shit threads should be shitted up
▶ No.1046828>>1046830
>>1046746
In what regard do you think they're superior to whites, spamming? I think they're sad people who lack part of their identity since they're neither European nor Asian, and I haven't seen enough of them to see whether they're "superior to whites".
Backup your claims before you advocate something irrevocable as race-mixing.
▶ No.1046830>>1046831
>>1046823
Fat, lazy, weak American white cuck, you can't do shit from the bariatric hospital now can you
>>1046828
There is not a single white country that isn't enslaved to jews and embracing cultural degeneracy. That alone is enough for me to automatically classify whites as subhuman trash.
>but muh jews did it
Jews lit the fire. Whites blew oxygen onto it.
Chinks are also disgusting subhumans, i'm sure you are familiar with those reasons so i'm not gonna waste my time.
The Japanese are the only pure race worth a shit anymore. But Eurasian hapas are the master race. Whites are cucked and DEAD.
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>>1046830
>There is not a single white country that isn't enslaved to jews and embracing cultural degeneracy
Sure, North-American and European soil have been fruitful for the jewish seeds, and we're definitely to blame for being that soil. Then again it's us against not only jews, but secret societies, intelligence agencies, military agencies, corporations, banking, subverted governments, etc. etc.
>The Japanese are the only pure race worth a shit anymore
Most Europeans are quite pure still, and I agree that the Japanese are the least degenerate of the Asiatic races
But how are Hapas superior to whites?
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>>1033554
>>1035257
glows talking to each other
▶ No.1049954>>1049987 >>1050000
>i2p
>better than tor
>cant even use clearnet
retarded nigger monkey
▶ No.1049987>>1050004
>>1049954
you are doing it wrong if you try to access clearnet from those. the only safe way is to stay in the network
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>>1049954
t. faggot who doesn't know the purpose of I2P
You actually can use the clearnet through it with an outproxy you stupid faggot.
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>>1049987
then TOR is superior
▶ No.1050006>>1050008
>>1050000
Yes you can make and out proxy with i2p But the problem is they're using your IP address And they're typically very slow
▶ No.1050007
>>1050000
And whoever is flooding this thread I want to choke to death and then melt his corpse in a vat of Acid i mean fucking Seriously who does that
▶ No.1050008
>>1050006
Not also that but you need a squid proxy server in order to make and out proxy
▶ No.1050022>>1050023
anything other than TOR is a meme
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>>1050022
I'll be honest with you darknets in general are just a meme
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>>1050023
yeah
but i use tor almost only for clearnet
▶ No.1050040>>1050127
Lol, I posted this:
>I looked into gnunet once.
>Firstly, the programming API documentation is absolutely horrible. Couldn't even figure out how to make a hello world program.
>And then on the IRC some guy started shilling some pseudo cryptocurrency scam (not even Ripple but way shittier) and I told him why his currency isn't secure but the dude kept shilling and some admin muted me.
>So that might explain why nobody uses it.
Not long after that, the spamdude filled the thread.
So I reposted my comment so the conversation could go on and what did mods do?
Deleted my fucking repost and some other people's but kept the spam.
Fucking NSA.
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>>1050023
protip: darknets are simply networks that are not indexed in public view. Your private network at home is considered darknet if it is not indexed by any public indexing service
▶ No.1050059>>1050145
>>1050042
tor is not a dark net then. the onions are often on google because they get indexed through the clearnet proxies
▶ No.1050119>>1050124 >>1050232
Should I check "Encrypt all Sites Eligeble" (EASE) on Https Everywhere, when using TOR? its off by default. Im using the Safest settings.
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>>1050119
Common sense says yes.
▶ No.1050127
>>1050040
>complaining about getting pers repost deleted
fuck off, spammer.
▶ No.1050145
>>1050059
Not all Tor sites are indexed by Google, only some of them are known to Google.
▶ No.1050232
>>1050119
does it affect onion sites (since almost all of them use http, since https would be redundant)?
▶ No.1050320
>>1033341
A network wide correlation attack, what you're talking about, has simply never been done before although it may be possible.