/tech/ - Technology★

>>1020405 (OP)

>vpn

>privacy

>>1020405 (OP)

Nigga, just use Tor bridges! ;v

>VPNs requiring an email address (or registration at all)

C'mon that's an obvious trap.

>>1020476

this. what you need to look for in a VPN is:

1. where it's based.

2. what payment methods it accepts

3. what info they require to use it

I recommend mullvad personally. They don't require an "account" you can pay with crypto. and they are located in Sweden.

DO NOT USE VPN

they are jewish honeypots. the only point of VPN existence is to provide shekels to VPN owner. they will cooperate with all authorities because they only care about their profits

USE TOR

superior to VPN in all aspects. works by design

it's not perfect but you can have additional defenses

DO NOT PAY FOR VPN, instead donate 5-10$ a month to Tor nodes, or host your own ones

>>1020561

>this. what you need to look for in a VPN is:

>I recommend mullvad personally. They don't require an "account" you can pay with crypto. and they are located in Sweden.

fuck off mullvad employee

it doesn't matter you pay with crypto because when you connect to VPN you send your real IP. IP can be used to identify you and your home address. even using remote public WIFI would be more anonymous than using VPN

only this is acceptable:

VPN ==> Tor

Tor ==> VPN (risky)

but you need to understand this scenarios and what risks they have

DO NOT BUY VPN, it's snakeoil. use Tor which costs 0$ but is superior

when you use VPN, you get same IP for every website that you visit. so if you log into your real account, then post on 8ch, it can be easily connected

when you use Tor and Tor Browser, you get different IP for every website that you visit and even different IP for same website when you visit it another day

also, if you use standard web browser with VPN, you will be fingerprinted, jews and Google will know it's you

use Tor and Tor Browser which has anti fingerprinting measures

get them from here:

https://torproject.org

>>1020405 (OP)

I see lot of anti-vpn shills here, can one of you give an actual argument instead of following non-arguments:

>one of them keeps logs mean all of them do

>all of them cooperate with all foreign spy agencies even if they are not legally required to

>they sell all your data for money even though that would be illegal, easily discovered and they make more money by providing exactly the service they promise

Basically my argument is that it is in their best interests to provide you the service they say they do because that makes them most money and there are only laws that force them to cooperate with law enforcement but not keep logs (choose VPN from such country), and as there aren't logs there is nothing to hand over.

I'm looking for arguments about things such as, timing correlation, packet stream correlation etc.

Oh and just for the record I'm not concerned about anything that requires specific targeting by law enforcement, so those scenarios are out, only care about foreign mass surveillance and spying by websites I visit.

>>1020579

>Lulzsec_hackers_arrested.png

>Then on 7 June 2011, Monsegur, who usually took care to disguise his location by using the Tor system -- which anonymises data connections – forgot to use it when logging into an Anonymous chat forum

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/may/16/lulzsec-hacking-fbi-jail

>>1020561

I recommend Mullvad as well, because they accept Bitcoin, Multi-hop VPN, Wireguard and do not require registration. It's the best I could find.

absolute niggers, setup your own VPNs at home

>>1020576

you're a brainlet.

Why would you be logging into your account from the dirty VPN IP anyway? are you retarded? That's opsec fail number one.

public wifi ==> VPN obviously.

>Tor

LOL

>>1020584

forgot to use it?

How is that possible?

The dude was probably using it everyday for months or years at that point. Wouldn't that have become second nature then?

This whole discussion is stupid. VPNs and tor are different tools for different threat models.

Use a VPN if you think your ISP (or your local network) is tracking you or throttling you, if you want to torrent stuff, or if you just want to appear to be from another jurisdiction.

Use tor to genuinely thwart most tracking if you're concerned about that, or to do things that are illegal almost everywhere. Good luck with CAPTCHAs and blanket tor bans though.

>>1020621

>not doing vpn-over-tor

Hmmm.

>>1020605

you're retarded

>>1020416

>not using VPN to relentlessly shitpost then evade ban like a madman when the mods/jannys inevitably get butthurt

>>1020666

thank you for that advice, satan

>>1020582

>Basically my argument is that it is in their best interests to provide you the service they say they do because that makes them most mone

no.

in their best interests is to make as much profit as possible. if government tells them to give data or they will close their company or fine it or send some gov agencies, VPN company will give the data to them

and selling users doesn't result in them losing much customers. HideMyAss openly sold users and it's still in business.

>they sell all your data for money even though that would be illegal, easily discovered

facebook sells user data for years to everyone. can you show me which facebook executives got jailed and how much fines did facebook pay?

>>1020605

>absolute niggers, setup your own VPNs at home

fuck you CIA

>using VPN that has only one user

>>1020609

>Why would you be logging into your account from the dirty VPN IP anyway?

because website might block Tor IP's

so you need to use VPN or proxies after Tor to access it

>>1020621

>This whole discussion is stupid. VPNs and tor are different tools for different threat models.

no, they are very similar, both are used for privacy purposes

>Use a VPN if you think your ISP (or your local network) is tracking you or throttling you, if you want to torrent stuff, or if you just want to appear to be from another jurisdiction.

Tor can be used for same purpose

>Good luck with CAPTCHAs

captchas where? they are mostly on jewish cuckflare websites, I rarely visit them anyway

>blanket tor bans

can be avoided with proxy or VPN added after Tor

>>1020582

>I see lot of anti-vpn shills here, can one of you give an actual argument instead of following non-arguments:

>I'm looking for arguments about things such as, timing correlation, packet stream correlation etc.

-when you use VPN, you connect to VPN IP (example: 1.2.3.4), then when you connect to website, that website gets 1.2.3.4 IP. police can just check who connected to 1.2.3.4 IP on that day, it will be you and some other people. then they can use your country or useragent to identify one person (you) that connected to the website with that VPN.

if you use Tor, you connect to Tor entry node, but your exit IP that connects to website is different that Tor entry node IP

-when you use VPN and open 30 different websites, you get same IP for all of them. so your actions and accounts can be easily linked. if you log into real account with that VPN you are fully identified on all websites that you visited.

if you use Tor, you get different IP for every website you visit

-when you use VPN with normal web browser, you can be fully fingerprinted with useragent and other things

if you use Tor Browser, you are protected against fingerprinting

-when you use VPN and get disconnected from it, your OS could just send everything in clearnet, without notyfing you

if you use Tor, when your Tor connection is disconnected, it simply stops working, it won't leak anything in clearnet

VPN = capitalism = sells you to jews for profit = evil

Tor = communism = protects you for ideals = good

capitalism = CIA, jews, corporations, SJW, slavery, feudalism

need to destroy it

>>1020711

>>1020712

(((Tor)))

Enough exit nodes are pozzed to correlate you. but it's still better than "we only told you no logs so you would buy our service goy" VPNs

>>1020711

>-when you use VPN, you connect to VPN IP (example: 1.2.3.4), then when you connect to website, that website gets 1.2.3.4 IP. police can just check who connected to 1.2.3.4 IP on that day, it will be you and some other people. then they can use your country or useragent to identify one person (you) that connected to the website with that VPN

How would they know what country a user is from? Browser timezone settings? Besides knowing the useragent and country aren't enough to pin point one specific person, of course it might be possible with hardcore javascript fingerprinting and trackers

>-when you use VPN and open 30 different websites, you get same IP for all of them. so your actions and accounts can be easily linked. if you log into real account with that VPN you are fully identified on all websites that you visited.

Keep a separate browser (chromium) that doesn't connect to your VPN for anything linked to your real identity

-when you use VPN with normal web browser, you can be fully fingerprinted with useragent and other things

if you use Tor Browser, you are protected against fingerprinting

Harden your browser my dude

-when you use VPN and get disconnected from it, your OS could just send everything in clearnet, without notyfing you

if you use Tor, when your Tor connection is disconnected, it simply stops working, it won't leak anything in clearnet

Setup your firewall to block all non-VPN traffic for everything except the personal-use browser mentioned above

You gotta have good opsec no matter your proxy of choice, i like to use use a mix of everything, I.E Tor for IRC, 8ch, news and tor-only email, porn, VPN for piracy, steam, browsing, chromium for banking, work and the few times a year I have to use google services

>>1020834

Fucked up my greentext, good job anon you fucking retard

>>1020405 (OP)

Double-bag your VPN. VPN-1 only shows you connecting to VPN-2. VPN-2 just has a log of someone coming from VPN-1. Problem solved.

>>1020712

i2p is the white man's choice.

>>1020712

This

>>1020904

>just never look at anything worthwhile, then no one will boter tracking you

>>1020666

If only there were a place online where the mods were honest and would admit when they get butthurt.

>>1020416

>cute video

What's being said here?

https://cryptostorm.is/ here you go pals

8chan logs your IPs.

Why do you need a non-logging VPN? What are you so afraid of?

https://www.purevpn.com/privacy-policy.php

<"we dun't record u b0ss, trust us ;)"

I mean, its on your fault for trusting ANYONE but seriously how the fuck are companies allowed to lie like this?

Though any VPN companies don't make logs, their ISPs or IDCs can make logs. VPN companies also need Internet service providers and data centers.

>>1021106

>but seriously how the fuck are companies allowed to lie like this?

China has incredibly lax fraud laws, so unless you have a lot of power dragging scammers to court is expensive and only results in them getting a slap on the wrist.