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 No.1009606>>1009607 >>1010374 >>1018571 >>1018579 [Watch Thread][Show All Posts]

https://archive.is/9bWCB

>Google has been forced to shut down a data analysis system it was using to develop a censored search engine for China after members of the company’s privacy team raised internal complaints that it had been kept secret from them, The Intercept has learned.

>The internal rift over the system has had massive ramifications, effectively ending work on the censored search engine, known as Dragonfly, according to two sources familiar with the plans. The incident represents a major blow to top Google executives, including CEO Sundar Pichai, who have over the last two years made the China project one of their main priorities.

>The dispute began in mid-August, when the The Intercept revealed that Google employees working on Dragonfly had been using a Beijing-based website to help develop blacklists for the censored search engine, which was designed to block out broad categories of information related to democracy, human rights, and peaceful protest, in accordance with strict rules on censorship in China that are enforced by the country’s authoritarian Communist Party government.

>The Beijing-based website, 265.com, is a Chinese-language web directory service that claims to be “China’s most used homepage.” Google purchased the site in 2008 from Cai Wensheng, a billionaire Chinese entrepreneur. 265.com provides its Chinese visitors with news updates, information about financial markets, horoscopes, and advertisements for cheap flights and hotels. It also has a function that allows people to search for websites, images, and videos. However, search queries entered on 265.com are redirected to Baidu, the most popular search engine in China and Google’s main competitor in the country. As The Intercept reported in August, it appears that Google has used 265.com as a honeypot for market research, storing information about Chinese users’ searches before sending them along to Baidu.

>According to two Google sources, engineers working on Dragonfly obtained large datasets showing queries that Chinese people were entering into the 265.com search engine. At least one of the engineers obtained a key needed to access an “application programming interface,” or API, associated with 265.com, and used it to harvest search data from the site. Members of Google’s privacy team, however, were kept in the dark about the use of 265.com.

>Several groups of engineers have now been moved off of Dragonfly completely and told to shift their attention away from China.

>The engineers used the data they pulled from 265.com to learn about the kinds of things that people located in mainland China routinely search for in Mandarin. This helped them to build a prototype of Dragonfly. The engineers used the sample queries from 265.com, for instance, to review lists of websites Chinese people would see if they typed the same word or phrase into Google. They then used a tool they called “BeaconTower” to check whether any websites in the Google search results would be blocked by China’s internet censorship system, known as the Great Firewall. Through this process, the engineers compiled a list of thousands of banned websites, which they integrated into the Dragonfly search platform so that it would purge links to websites prohibited in China, such as those of the online encyclopedia Wikipedia and British news broadcaster BBC.

>Under normal company protocol, analysis of people’s search queries is subject to tight constraints and should be reviewed by the company’s privacy staff, whose job is to safeguard user rights. But the privacy team only found out about the 265.com data access after The Intercept revealed it, and were “really pissed,” according to one Google source. Members of the privacy team confronted the executives responsible for managing Dragonfly. Following a series of discussions, two sources said, Google engineers were told that they were no longer permitted to continue using the 265.com data to help develop Dragonfly, which has since had severe consequences for the project.

>“The 265 data was integral to Dragonfly,” said one source. “Access to the data has been suspended now, which has stopped progress.”

>In recent weeks, teams working on Dragonfly have been told to use different datasets for their work. They are no longer gathering search queries from mainland China and are instead now studying “global Chinese” queries that are entered into Google from people living in countries such as the United States and Malaysia; those queries are qualitatively different from searches originating from within China itself, making it virtually impossible for the Dragonfly team to hone the accuracy of results. Significantly, several groups of engineers have now been moved off of Dragonfly completely, and told to shift their attention away from China to instead work on projects related to India, Indonesia, Russia, the Middle East and Brazil.

 No.1009607

>>1009606 (OP)

>Records show that 265.com is still hosted on Google servers, but its physical address is listed under the name of the “Beijing Guxiang Information and Technology Co.,” which has an office space on the third floor of a tower building in northwest Beijing’s Haidian district. 265.com is operated as a Google subsidiary, but unlike most Google-owned websites --- such as YouTube and Google.com — it is not blocked in China and can be freely accessed by people in the country using any standard internet browser.

>The internal dispute at Google over the 265.com data access is not the first time important information related to Dragonfly has been withheld from the company’s privacy team. The Intercept reported in November that privacy and security employees working on the project had been shut out of key meetings and felt that senior executives had sidelined them. Yonatan Zunger, formerly a 14-year veteran of Google and one of the leading engineers at the company, worked on Dragonfly for several months last year and said the project was shrouded in extreme secrecy and handled in a “highly unusual” way from the outset. Scott Beaumont, Google’s leader in China and a key architect of the Dragonfly project, “did not feel that the security, privacy, and legal teams should be able to question his product decisions,” according to Zunger, “and maintained an openly adversarial relationship with them --- quite outside the Google norm.”

>Last week, Pichai, Google’s CEO, appeared before Congress, where he faced questions on Dragonfly. Pichai stated that “right now” there were no plans to launch the search engine, though refused to rule it out in the future. Google had originally aimed to launch Dragonfly between January and April 2019. Leaks about the plan and the extraordinary backlash that ensued both internally and externally appear to have forced company executives to shelve it at least in the short term, two sources familiar with the project said.


 No.1009608>>1009623

They can still use 11 years worth of data gathered from 265.com for dragonfly. That title is bullshit, they're definitely still building dragonfly


 No.1009623>>1009644

>>1009608

>Google engineers were told that they were no longer permitted to continue using the 265.com data to help develop Dragonfly, which has since had severe consequences for the project.

L2Read


 No.1009630>>1009641

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Sure, i bet they just switched to another company, to hide their tracks.

MSM has been reporting on it for a decade how google collaborate with the chinese in their censor and tracking, and then last week the hooknosed brown CEO claimed he didnt know anything about it in the congress hearings.


 No.1009633>>1009635 >>1010368 >>1018578 >>1027704

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What exactly was wrong about Google working with the Chink government to scam Chinks out of their data for an American company? I don't think Google would've eventually rolled it out here, that's a slippery slope fallacy. There was literally nothing wrong with an American company making bank off of China. Now some other censorship-happy SE will take their place


 No.1009635>>1009637 >>1009847 >>1010080 >>1011755 >>1011898

>>1009633

I dont think you understand

(((USA))) put the communist chinese into power

(((USA))) moved all production there helping them gain global power

((USA))) Create their slave system for them

China is their test bed for a global system they plan to enforce on you.


 No.1009637>>1009639 >>1009847

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>>1009635

>muh echos!

This website is hosted and was founded in the (((((((((((((((USA)))))))))((((((((())))))))))((((((((


 No.1009639>>1009657

>>1009637

Actually hotwheels bailed (((USA)) for the Philippines


 No.1009641>>1009643

>>1009630

Think it's going to be ready to be deployed in time for the primaries?


 No.1009643

>>1009641

Dude zoggle is already censoring and content steering like fuck


 No.1009644

>>1009623

If it was to be rolled out in january (2 weeks from now) that means nothing, any data gathered from it would have already been used and built into their program


 No.1009657>>1009662

>>1009639

Is that mutually exclusive to anything I said? Everyone knows the cripple fled to Flipland. The servers are still hosted in Reno Nevada


 No.1009662>>1010095

>>1009657

I dont even understand your point

(((USA))) created communist china and help them grow into power - 8CHAN IS HOSTED IN THE USA CHECKMATE GOYIM

How is that going to change what i just said ?


 No.1009738

>Google

literally who?


 No.1009840>>1010000 >>1010370

Didn't Jewgle also recently see a mini-revolt when the leftie employees there got angry that they were working on DoD projects? Yet it's OK when trannies suck each other off in the server stacks.


 No.1009847

>>1009635

this

>>1009637

which is a bad thing. would be better somewhere in the middle of nowhere

Chinks already have a social score and an eye scanning technology for toilet paper in public baths.

So you know what they're planning everywhere else. Fuck kikes.


 No.1010000

>>1009840

what I want to know is why the fire happened at their corporate office in Beijing

was it google scuttling their office or was it a message from the PRC?


 No.1010080

>>1009635

Thank you, this is all coming from the same awful company that just testified they arent doing exactly this same thing for their global search engine.

Of course they're fucking doing it globally, they're just using China to test out Censored Internet 2.0


 No.1010095

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>>1009662

>The USA created Communism

/leftypol/ officially BTFO


 No.1010368

>>1009633

>that's a slippery slope fallacy.

When Alphabet and it's subsidiaries are already engaging in the active censorship of political speech across the Western world, with a clear left-wing bias, I really fail to see the fallacy.


 No.1010370

>>1009840

ikr? Fucking lefties not helping (((DoD))), those fucking commies right my fellow Chosen People?


 No.1010374>>1010546

>>1009606 (OP)

Chinese internet censorship is a good thing because it reduces American degenerative influences on the Chinese, change my mind.


 No.1010546

>>1010374

Agreed, but google censorship is more about censoring information on why cutting off your penis might be a bad idea


 No.1011755>>1018577

>>1009635

>(((USA)))

Joke's on you. You Jewsuit puppet presidency and test-bed country is about to end. Thank nature for the deadliest earthquake that will wipe the face of EU and USA.

Purge and begone! Pay your ancestral sins through death!


 No.1011763

>the golems revolt against their master

It's beautiful, let's hope that these leftards will destroy more projects internally.


 No.1011898>>1027686

>>1009635

>(((USA))) put the communist chinese into power

No.


 No.1018571

>>1009606 (OP)

OP is a faggot. No one is wollied about this get lekt


 No.1018577

>>1011755

>Joke's on you. You Jewsuit puppet presidency and test-bed country is about to end.

>Implying the death of (((USA))) would be bad for Americans


 No.1018578

>>1009633

Every time I see slippery slope labeled a fallacy I remain unsurprised when the ridiculed end result prediction ends up becoming true.


 No.1018579>>1027588

>>1009606 (OP)

In other news, another Alphabet subsidiary is working with China on secret project.


 No.1027588

>>1018579

This. They wouldn't just stop


 No.1027609

I don't see anything wrong with Google collaborating with Chinese to develop a massively censored search engine. From what I read, China employs about ~40,000 people to monitor and report content to be filtered from the heavily censored Chinese internet. Google wouldn't be able to launch an uncensored version of their search engine in China, but I'm pretty sure that they didn't launch in anywhere else in the world either, at least after the point they became relevant.

Either way, all Google owned domains are blacklisted and outright blocked even before coming in contact with any electronic device within my household. I have a personal Great Firewall against (((them))) too. Jews can play their game somewhere else.


 No.1027686

>>1011898

well technically it was international organizations headquartered in the usa but the point that china would be nothing without the usa still stands


 No.1027704

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>>1009633

> slippery slope fallacy


 No.1027749

>communism in action

<developers pissed they were kept in the dark

<expected communism to not stifle privacy

WEW LAD




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