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 No.1005168>>1005172 >>1005175 >>1005502 [Watch Thread][Show All Posts]

Is it running on a high level language architecture, like Lisp Machine's of old? Or maybe a

>what OS language(s)

>what architecture/ISA (turtles all the way down?)

>other requirements/features/quirks

 No.1005172

>>1005168 (OP)

Forgot to edit the post. Anyway, just asking because I installed TempleOS recently and it's extremely cool, and I'd like to know what else it out there or at least conceptually possible with existing hardware. Obviously, for hackability, everything has to open sourced.


 No.1005175>>1005177 >>1005203

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>>1005168 (OP)

>what OS/languages

GNU/Exec, Ada

>what architecture

64-bit multi-core m68k adapted to running Ada in hardware.

>other requirements/features/quirks

Completely open source hard&software with not a single binary blob or hardware botnet circuitry o be found, some measure of hardware backcompat with old Amiga gaems, multi-TB floppies, a socket for Fortran/COBOL/Lisp etc. coprocessors and/or FPGAs.


 No.1005177>>1005180

>>1005175

You'd want the GNU toolchain in a dream machine? I just want something for educational hackability.. Something with emacs like documentation and interactivity, extensability and introspection.. TempleOS is interactive and introspective, but he documentation sucks and you basically have to already know C to do anything. And it sure does get a lot of criticism, a lot of which I cannot properly address. But I love the idea of a simple, fun hobby OS + hardware w/o networking to keep security problems out of the picture, and I'm very curious as to what else is out there, even just conceptually.


 No.1005180

>>1005177

I had lots of fun with Enth/Flux, especially after I reformatted the code to be readable within the OS, and after I had the multitasker handle floppy updates. Enth/Flux had an ANS-style Forth mode and a ColorForth-style mode (not the same thing, "colorForth" includes a lot of ancillary nonsense IMO) , each with an editor.

colorForth's also an option, technically.


 No.1005203

>>1005175

What are some good hardware/ISA combos for this stuff? RICS-V and C seems comfy enough.


 No.1005395

>what OS language(s)

OS: SeL4 with BSD userspace and some ports-like software management system

Language: Doesn't really matter, but if I would have to choose... C

>what architecture/ISA (turtles all the way down?)

RISC-V

>other requirements/features/quirks

Completely open-source, preferably permissive license. Including hardware security measures. Also, powerful enough to at least to be able to play Portal 2 on it in minimum 45 FPS.


 No.1005396

amd64 colorForth, for a qwerty keyboard.


 No.1005502

>>1005168 (OP)

Apple was going to put Smalltalk in the original Macintosh as its ROM / OS / UI / API but it was too much for the weak computers of the day without a shitload of special ASICs for the ROM functions and microcode, so they created a Smalltalk-looking interface without any of the actual benefits.

They appear to have wanted to move over completely to Smalltalk and even hired Alan Kay to work in the Apple Labs for a number of years but nothing happened on that front. It's too bad, we could all be /userdeveloper/ mode by now.




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