[–]▶ No.1003609>>1003641 >>1003821 >>1004876 >>1014513 >>1015324 >>1018306 [Watch Thread][Show All Posts]
Anyone platform which upholds freedom of speech is censored by (((the powers that be))). There are two avenues to this - withdraw or threaten to withdraw payment channels unless censorship demands are met, i.e. gab removing posts from Patrick Little. Fiat channels are gatewayed and to use them is to be at the mercy of paypal, VISA, the banks, and governments.
The solution? Use cryptocurrency - specifically DAI. DAI provides all of the benefits of BTC while maintaining price parity with the US dollar. Each DAI is backed by ETH collateral sitting in a smart contract and stays stable even if the collateral does not (the particular ways it accomplishes this will not be explained here, but you can check the price history if you don't believe the system works). It does NOT use a bank & has ZERO counterparty risk.
It is NOT private, but zk (zero knowledge) DAI has been successfully implemented so things may change in the future. DAI can be sold for ETH and then XMR and then USD, so it can be extracted back into USD privately to meet any real world obligations.
The other avenue is to cut hosting entirely. I think this is a secondary issue as even gab, piratebay somehow manage to stay online, with occasional interruptions. The solution here is to put the service on something like a TOR hidden service or to distribute the contents between the users (like ZeroNet).
Thoughts?
▶ No.1003614>>1003621
you're a fucking genius mate, the great thinker of this era
not like we didn't hear this idea since cryptokikery was invented
▶ No.1003619>>1003621
How are you planning on cashing out without involving a bank or lender at any point?
▶ No.1003621>>1003679
Sorry for the double post. The system was stuck when I posted it the first time so I resubmitted. I added a little more info on the 2ndpost. This one has the comments so mods please remove the other.
>>1003614
nobody has tried using dai or a stablecoin
>>1003619
you can take the donated DAI and acquire ETH by closing underwater CDPs (No KYC, No counterparty risk). Then you swap for XMR on an exchange like Bisq.
If the zk-dai thing comes to fruition, then the above won't be necessary. There's probably other ways to do it that I'm not thinking of.
If you think you can get away with it, sell the DAI for ETH and then XMR on a regular exchange.
You can sell the XMR for BTC or ETH and then cash out that. It doesn't matter if you use a bank at this point because the source of funds are protected. Just say you're a trader and do all the KYC you want.
▶ No.1003624>>1004479
Also, a word of advice on Localbitcoins / Localmonero - just don't. You are immediately suspect if you do this. Even if the person you're selling to is just a regular guy and not working for a three letter agency, he's going to get curious about your business especially if you're a repeat customer. Cody Wilson went to jail for fucking a 16 year old prostitute who cried rape (read: she didn't like his political views). By using the banks (privately), nobody is going to ask any questions unless you're selling $10,000+ at a time. Use XMR to conceal and then blend in.
If you can buy something with crypto, do it. Luckily the merchants which support crypto are more likely to carry what you need for a digital operations (hardware, hosting, etc). Even if it means paying a premium over the dollar price you should do it.
▶ No.1003630>>1003646
dont use botnet services and software is the easiest way
▶ No.1003639>>1014852 >>1018252
>botnet coins
>not GNU Taler
▶ No.1003641
>>1003609 (OP)
Accepting crypto currency is only feasible if you remain anonymous yourself, because if you don't then any exchange will just ban you as a person.
You can accept all the anonymous shit you want, but if your name and face are plastered behind your championing of free-speech, you're a leper. You'd have to have a trusted friend exchange the coins into fiat for you.
▶ No.1003646
>>1003630
>When using Taler, merchant's revenue is transparent for tax collection authorities. Unlike cash and most digital currencies, Taler helps prevent black markets. Taler is not suitable for illegal activities.
Running a free speech website isn't illegal if you live in a free county. But this is nevertheless concerning. This system is not built around freedom.
>Accepting crypto currency is only feasible if you remain anonymous yourself
of course
>You'd have to have a trusted friend exchange the coins into fiat for you.
although that would help, if you (as the receiver of the payments) are anonymous then you don't need a trusted friend as there should be no connecting the dots between your real life and digital identiy.
▶ No.1003679>>1003680
>>1003621
>nobody has tried using dai or a stablecoin
oh, so you are just a shill?
I see
go fuck yourself
▶ No.1003680>>1003693
>>1003679
I'm a shill for a coin that is literally stable in value?
▶ No.1003693>>1003695
>>1003680
So you re-affirm that you're a shill?
Good boi, who is a good boi?
*pats head*
▶ No.1003695>>1003724
>>1003693
Not affirming anything, just pointing out how ridiculous it sounds to be a shill for something that cannot make money.
News flash: you can introduce something cool without being a shill
▶ No.1003724>>1003885
>>1003695
nice damage control shill. Buy the kikes already won. We are just in the process of laying down and rotting away as everything gets taken from us. We are pathetic and impotent, they are Gods.
▶ No.1003821>>1003851
>>1003609 (OP)
>the particular ways it accomplishes this will not be explained here
▶ No.1003851
>>1003821
Because to actually explain how to the MKR system works would take thousands of words. I can give you a start.
I can give you a start. MKR is a decentralized lending system, you put up collateral (ETH) in a CDP (collateralized debt position) and get a loan in DAI. You can spend the DAI on anything. If you use it to buy ETH you have what is effectively a margin long in ETH. To get your collateral back you must only pay back the loan. If the value of the collateral increases, then nothing happens because every DAI is stil backed by at least 1 USD of ETH. If the value of the collateral falls too much, the ETH will be liquidated at a 3% discount for DAI. This ensures that all outstanding DAI is backed by sufficient ETH. If the price of ETH falls too quickly and the collateral cannot be sold in time, this gets into another security mechanism involving PETH (pooled ethereum). There is also another token called MKR which plays its own role in the system.
But none of this is important because you don't have to actually open a CDP to own DAI.
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▶ No.1003896>>1003899 >>1004403
Wait, does clover turn (((Jewish things))) green now?
▶ No.1003898
>Use cryptocurrency
>implying you'd be using it
>implying you're not the one being used
▶ No.1003899>>1004403
>>1003896
Make an issue in the app's kikehub page.
Protip: You can't, because Floens is either lazy or has a full-time real-life job.
▶ No.1004403>>1004409
>>1003896
Yes, it's done this for a while
>>1003899
Whats the problem shlomo?
▶ No.1004409
>>1004403
>shlomo
Not an argument you dumb phoneposter
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▶ No.1004477>>1004892
>>1004471
We now call "blockchain" as:
CUCKCHAIN
Cryptoshitters on suicide watch
▶ No.1004479
>>1003624
>Cody Wilson went to jail for fucking a 16 year old
>she didn't like his political views
fucking lol he's a living ancap meme
sage for top tier crypto faggotry
▶ No.1004876>>1013337
>>1003609 (OP)
>Use Eth
>not EOS
Microsoft spam is allowed here now? Eth will crash and burn.
▶ No.1004892>>1004900
>>1004477
the only cuck here is you, believing in the UN
▶ No.1004900
>>1004892
Not an argument at all you globalist cocksucker
▶ No.1013302
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2ySC7edHO0
>After seeing evidence of collusion between Patreon and PayPal in the attack on SubscribeStar, I decided to do something. I've spoken about freedom of speech, Now I'm going to file a formal complaint with the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) against both Patreon and PayPal for Group Boycott, a form of illegal collusion. An Antitrust violation.
▶ No.1013335
Why tf would anyone use this random shitcoin when Monero has an actual research community behind it?
▶ No.1013337
>>1004876
POS is inflationary trash nigger
▶ No.1013381>>1013644 >>1014465 >>1018101
The best way not to get beaten up by Black people is to not walk up to Black youths and start yelling "N*gger" at them. Likewise, the best way to fight back against deplatforming is to change your political beliefs such that they're in line with the political beliefs that are considered acceptable and uncontroversial by Silicon Valley. The advice here is that "If you're on the losing side, you can either keep losing, or you can be smart and switch over to the winning side."
▶ No.1013639>>1015029
All "stablecoins" have the weakness of breaking peg when the underlying collateral crashes faster than the unwinding of the least collateralized margin positions. BitShares has been having this problem as of late.
▶ No.1013644>>1014544
>>1013381
but the winning side keeps changing, Soygon, Juden Peterstein and etc are leftist, they're just not left enough for silicon valley. It was pretty fun to see the left keep cannibalizing each other for not being cuck enough. Even white homos are getting shit on now, it's absolutely beautiful to watch.
Meanwhile if alternatives do succeed, everyone on the "wrong" side could benefit too. It's a win-win for everyone.
▶ No.1013703
sage
Stop shilling this garbage. "Stablecoins" are a meme, especially ones like this that try to accomplish it though a """smart""" "contract".
If it's sufficiently private, use Bitcoin. If it's not, use Monero or Zcash.
▶ No.1013761
>s-stop taking away my donations REEEEEEEEEEE
▶ No.1014397
>deplatforming
what the fuck are you talking about? getting kicked from paypal? literally just use bitcoin, paypal is fucking trash
▶ No.1014465
>>1013381
The best way to avoid getting raped is to not dress like a slut.
▶ No.1014513>>1015030
>>1003609 (OP)
>Thoughts?
Yes ... this is a DIA shill thread. Thanks for coming
▶ No.1014544>>1018101
>>1013644
>but the winning side keeps changing
Who said your political orientation needs to be static? It's like fashion, you can either keep up with what's trendy and acceptable or be an outcast. At least put up a leftist facade in your public web presence while maintaining your true beliefs at the polling both.
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▶ No.1014775
>>1014768
I made this for that twitter conversation, but I have no twitter account.
▶ No.1014852
>>1003639
>spread your ass wide open for the (((authorities))), goy! You don't need that "privacy" thingy anyway
gno
▶ No.1015005
So I've heard I can get exchange BTC to fiat on 7-11
I think it is feasible.
My problem is I wanna be a content provider but I don't want anyone getting my full Address and Name on checkout. How can I avoid the VISA botnet? Are there much more better platforms to transact to (also the people who would like to transact with me should easily be able to do it with just their VISA shit or whatever they have)
▶ No.1015029>>1018234
>>1013639
Don't confuse a flaw in how Bitshares works with a general purpose flaw of all stablecoins. DAI has backup mechanisms to deal with the exact problem that you have described, which is why it's peg has not broken.
▶ No.1015030>>1015288 >>1018234
>>1014513
>shilling a coin that is stable in value
I look forward for selling my DAI for the exact same amount I payed for them.
Why is 8chan so fucking autistic as soon as you mention any cryptocurrency? Can't you talk about something without being a shill?
▶ No.1015278>>1015288
>How to Fight Back Against Deplatforming
Create your own platforms, it doesn't cost too much and the software is already written and maintained for you, just configure it a bit and voila you got a platform.
▶ No.1015288
>>1015030
this is a thread about receiving online payments. BTC works perfectly fine for that. just withdraw it right away
>>1015278
fuck your stupid platforms
▶ No.1015301>>1015326
Freedom of speech is supposedly guaranteed only by the government. I don't agree with what these companies are doing, but I'm not a slave to them either. If you don't like what you see, cut them off from your life. It's the best you can do.
▶ No.1015320
Is dwolla any good?
They're one of the few that allow person to person transactions, which was the only thing that ever made paypal a thing aside from ebays adoption.
▶ No.1015324
>>1003609 (OP)
>tfw I fucked (((Paypal))) out of thousands of dollardoos.
▶ No.1015326
>>1015301
>cut them off from your life
Might as well take a pound of flesh on your way out. Unsecured debt should be a motherfucker for these "woke" companies.
▶ No.1018101
>>1013381
>The best way not to get beaten up by Black people is to not walk up to Black youths and start yelling "N*gger" at them
Yeah except that analogy doesn't work here and you're just disingenuous.
>smart and switch over to the winning side
Remember Gawker? Does that look like winning? Pathetic.
>>1014544
>At least put up a leftist facade in your public web presence while maintaining your true beliefs at the polling both.
There's no guarantee, just like how you fill in fake info on your facebook profile they could still trace you with enough data. Now the metadata is already there, they're just waiting for a better AI to sort out all the wrong thinker in disguise and mark them so they couldn't even buy a loaf of bread in a cashless society. So there's no point in even pretend to be a pseudo leftist anymore.
▶ No.1018133>>1018234
ONLY WEAK NIGGER-LEVEL IQ DEGENERATE 'MOVEMENTS' MADE OF PATHETIC OBESE BASEMENT DWELLERS ARE HELD BACK BY DEPLATFORMING
Adolf, we're throwing you in jail TO DEPLATFORM YOU
▶ No.1018160>>1018168
>how to fight back against someone kicking you out of their home
▶ No.1018168>>1018198
>>1018160
>how to fight back against someone kicking you out of their home while blocking you from buying new home
Fix'd
▶ No.1018189
> Stablecoins
No provable basis whatsoever.
▶ No.1018198
>>1018168
>how to fight back against someone kicking you out of their home while blocking you from buying new home
"I fixed that problem in a single night. Lots of broken glass, if you catch my drift."
▶ No.1018234
>>1015029
Same problem, because "stablecoins" has no theoretical basis AT ALL.
>>1015030
Too many conjob (or worse kikejobs) in the crypto scene.
>>1018133
Seig Heil, use crypto
▶ No.1018248
>DAI
You can't come up with a more pajeet sounding ticker if you tried. DAI reeks of curry.
▶ No.1018252
>>1003639
Out of all the GNU projects with misguided goals, GNU Taler is the worst. This whole crypto-currency thing doesn't work with massive centralized servers, and it certainly doesn't work with shit like this
>Taxable
>Taler was built with the goal of fighting corruption and supporting taxation. With Taler, the receiver of any form of payment is easily identified by the government, and the merchant can be compelled to provide the contract that was accepted by the customer. Governments can use this data to tax businesses and individuals based on their income, making tax evasion and black markets less viable.
Frankly, Taler is so harmful that crypto-currency advocates should just not donate to GNU.
▶ No.1018306>>1018517
>>1003609 (OP)
It's about more than the money. The money is an issue, and yes, using privacy-centric crypto, and handling it yourself (no big exchange to censor you) is the key. The other issue is the platform. Pretty much we need to take "muh dark webs" and take all of the interesting cool stuff there, by default. Normalize a decentralized, privacy-centric web 3.0 ( or have we moved to 4.0? I don't keep up with synergistigly emerging buzzwords on the bluetooth-enabled IoT ;) )
▶ No.1018517
>>1018306
> Normalize it
Why not /pol/arize it? Get GabFags to start using alternatives much like BitChute and Pawoo and Minds and Voat and the rest?
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▶ No.1025835
Its a Jew vs Jew world anon, a couple of the high ranking Jews have to get mad at other Jews for treating the Goyim badly.
Then, THEN we will have places to go when deplatformed.