/sw/ - Star Wars

>>5075

I think they were just there for fanservice since audiences really fell in love with the AT-ATs and their merch after ESB.

>>5075

Indeed, but we don't see the "front door" do we? Maybe they were there as a weapons platform? Maybe they cleared the area in the front door, cleared enough to an AT-AT walks around? At least some kind of path/road was cleared for it, since they used to transport Luke to the landing pad.

>>5077

That reminded me of

>that armor is too stronger for blasters

>AT-AT falls, suddenly armor is not too stronger for blasters anymore

>>5079

The fall ruptured the plasma conduits and the snowspeeder blast ignited the plasma

>>5081

AT-AT used fusion cores, not plasma

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/FW62_compact_fusion_drive_system

>>5071

>"Don't move!" instead "Blaster in the face"

Despite what you might hear from rebel propaganda, the Imperial Army is filled with professional soldiers who have the decency not to shoot a surrendering enemy

>>5085

This. If they went full genocide the resistance would be a LOT bigger

>>5085

>professional soldier

>in a middle of a war zone

>defending a critical asset and installation

>the emperor himself aboard DS

>the security was compromised by the presence of rebels

>a rebel fleet just above their heads

>taking chances

>the army at an isolated and secret region

They killed Luke uncles for nothing in comparison , but when they were at a critical situation they would care about hostiles? In a middle of a warzone due some non-existance space Geneva convention?

That's not professionalism, that's retardness in spades.

>>5088

What genocide? We're talking about a terrorist/rebel commando of 20 at most trying to blow up a critical military installation.

>>5088

And more… genocide? We're talking about a regime who blew up a core founder planet. And who was rebuilding their planet killer. They didn't care much about political backlash.

>>5090

>They killed Luke uncles for nothing in comparison

They never show us that, all we get is Ben saying that happened so that he can get Luke away from the empire again. Remember, he's there to protect him and since the Imperial Forces was on the planet he had to get him off the planet. It's not like the first time Ben Kenobi kept the truth away from Luke.

>>5166

Right, Owen and Beru combusted spontaneously combusted or were burned to death by an angry jawa mob.. Sure

>They never show us that, all we get is Ben saying that happened

Did we watched the same movie? Luke rushed to the farm while Obi Wan remained behind. Luke saw the bodies, not Obi Wan.

>>5171

from what i recall, the A-Wing crashing into the bridge caused a short circuit that caused the controls to make the ship do a hard dive and the secondary bridge wasn't able to regain control in time.

>>5173

yes the fact that it crashed against the death star is a plot hole, but not the fact that it crashed.

i think the answer is that George didn't want it to crash into Endor and kill off a good number of Ewoks on screen.

>>5173

>The rebels go point-blank range, that is away from the DS.

> Ackbar not ordering the rebel fleet to orbit the Death Star opposite of the cannon

>>5174

No, i have no problems with crashing, it would be hard to explain a rebel victory with Executor intact even after the DS destruction. It was how it was done that was a fucking plot hole.

>kill off a good number of Ewoks on screen.

Unless it fell directly under the shield generator, who knows? Endor was a Earth like body, it would had fall far away from any ewok concentration. Unless there were billions of ewoks all around Endor, if could had fall without killing a single one.

>>5175

Well, that would depend how fast the DS could rotate, but i guess it wouldn't be that fast, you're right. But in any case it was another plot hole of only the superlaser being active, without any other turbo laser battery online

>>5178

Alternately, take the fleet to the farside of Endor's orbit from the DS.

>>5176

a ship of that size falling on Endor's forest moon would be akin to nuking every square cm of the moon's surface. The Executor is roughly similar in size to the Chicxulub impactor.

>>5180

That would lead us to the old "Endor Holocaust" scenario. A battle that close, even without taking the DS in consideration, would be full of falling ships.

According to the wiki Endor had a diamater of 4,900 km somewhat bigger than our own moon. Now imagine it being nuked by all those failling debris.

>>5180

The Chicxulub impactor was also traveling much, much faster, and since kinetic energy goes by v^2 the energy of the impact would be far smaller.

The speed of an asteroid hitting Earth is mostly speed it already has orbiting the sun, plus what it gets from falling from an arbitrary distance away. If you started in Low Earth Orbit your speed would be an order of magnitude lower. And even less for an object orbiting Endor, which apparently has a radius ~2/3 that of Earth, which for similar composition means only ~30% the mass, so the speed in Endor orbit would be even less.

Still a devastating impact, but only locally devastating, not globally. Have it reenter over an ocean and the Ewoks would be fine.

>>5185

I fucked up the numbers, and used 4300 km instead of 4900 km for Endor. So it ends up ~45% the mass. Still a significant difference.

>>5180

>The Chicxulub impactor (/ˈtʃiːkʃəluːb/ CHEEK-shə-loob), also known as the K/Pg impactor and (more speculatively) as the Chicxulub asteroid, was an asteroid 10 to 15 kilometres in diameter

Executor had 19km. It was bigger.

>>5190

In length, but it was narrow and flat. And it would also have been far less dense, since it was mostly hollow.

>>5194

>since it was mostly hollow

I always pictured the DS as mostly hollow too, it's an egg shell housing the reactors and beam generators, the only levels are near the equatorial orientation of the hanger decks, the stormtroopers in ANH refer to Luke, Leia, Han being on decks 5 and 6 while being pursued.

>>5300

And its fitting since its not just a weapon, but a space station as well.

>>5303

Well, its definitely not a moon.

Another one who comes to my mind. Why Frank didn't whisked Luke away from the DS? He could do his corrupting act in the safety of the Imperial Palace. Yes, i know… "blah blah blah overconfidence". But seriously… Palpatine from a master schemer who engendered a galactic war to ascend to the throne to a criminously incompetent moron who put himself a risk just because? The whole "Endor trap" was retarded.

>>5345

He wasn't just overconfident. He foresaw his victory from multiple possible series of events revolving around the Battle of Endor. It wasn't just his intuition; it was a premonition and psychic vision he received through his connection to the Force. And from all accountable angles, the Empire was destined to win that battle. Palpatine's plans and contingencies were more than enough in virtually any possible scenario.

The problem was that by his nature as a Sith immersed in the Dark Side he could not account for Luke Skywalker appealing to the light in Darth Vader. Pretty much everyone in the Galaxy, Vader and Sheev included, though that Anakin Skywalker was snuffed out for good. It was a complete "for want of a nail" situation. If Luke hadn't redeemed Anakin, the Rebellion would have failed forever that day.

>>5346

His plan was retarded. Remember that the Empire lost the DS2 and Executor independent of the events in the throne room. Even if one comes with a handwave "oh, but to the emperor that wasn't much of a loss, blah blah blah Darkside is what matters" that was an immense loss from a military, political and economical point of view. Palpatine could had died in the DS destruction, just like Tarkin died on the first one. His "entire legion of best troops" were literally morons, the navy a joke (they managed to lost their flagship in the stupidest way possible), his plan of nitpicking the rebel fleet with the DS superlaser just to convert Luke or toy with the rebels was an unnecessary risk.

>>5375

Well he was a senile old evil warlord with an ego the size of a moon.

>>5375

Have you never read the Tragedy of Darth Plagueis the Wise?