/sw/ - Star Wars

>>4664

Haven't seen the show, how is he introduced?

I remember bickering with some fools on youtube once over whether or not he got angry over racism (or just incompetence and artistic disrespect).

>>4664

Because he's interesting and not a complete goofball?

>>4664

It's a popularity play.

Who other than Thrawn is such a widely loved EU character? Mara Jade? Fat chance, she's as hated as loved and is a direct threat to Rey having any validity. Dash Rendar? He's a virtual unknown, though they did use his ship at one point and never even had the fucking decency to put the magnificent ginger bastard in it

But Thrawn? He's well known and well beloved, he's a safe bet, he can disappear for a while to lick his wounds and come back. He can be a threat to be sidestepped.But most importantly, he lets them say "See, we remember the EU, we care! We canonised your favourite Smurf!"

How much of those books or Rebels did you really read and watch? He has the liberty of sitting back and steepling his fingertips because he plays long-term games with Batman-tier contingencies. Most of the details of how he pulled strings aren't obvious until the plot reaches falling action or denouement, though his military strategies are more immediately creative than what other characters seem to come up with. If anything, the most damning criticism I have of the character is that he's a little too brilliant and always loses because of one fine detail that nobody in his position could have possibly predicted, such as being turned on by his bodyguard in Legends/EU or running into the Bendu sage in Rebels.

So, I read Outbound Flight a few years ago and am just getting started on the Thrawn trilogy legends is and always will be canon. Mickey Mouse can suck my cock. As much as I love the character so far, I have to ask: what's his motivation? Going by OF and the short story Timothy Zahn wrote explaining how the Imperials recruited him, it seems like his loyalties lie with the Ascendancy first and foremost, and that fighting for the Empire was a pragmatic choice more than it was anything else. So why the determination to snuff out the New Republic and the Jedi? Why not a story about him using the fleet of the Remnant to poke and prod at the worlds in Unknown Space, under the guise of giving the Remnant a foothold in the region, while actually just manipulating the politics situation to be more beneficial to his homeland? Don't get me wrong, he's an excellent adversary to read about, and I'm entertained and intrigued by what I've read so far. I'm just not sure what Thrawn's stake is in all this.

>>6304

As I recall he was exiled from the ascendancy. It's been several years since I've even thought about the thrown trilogy so i dont remember his exact reasons or motivation. But it should be explained later in the books.

>>6331

He was exiled, that's why I suggested the whole shtick about manipulating unknown space politics in favor of the Chiss instead of just leading the Ascendancy directly.

>>6348

Makes sense anon, thank you.

>>4660

How could Zahn have done the "Space Holmes" idea better?

>>12337

Maybe by giving him a greater variety of deductive tools. Like the scene where he concludes that exactly two people had to have transferred between the Falcon and Lando's ship, and eliminating all but one of the permutations based on logic, and the facts he knew about each of the individuals. Scenes with that kind of specificity is what really sold the character to me; I understand that the abstractions about using a culture's art to predict how they think are necessary due to time and other constraints, but they never made Thrawn come alive the way those individual scenes did.