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The Empire did nothing wrong.
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 No.2552

why do people refer to the "great original trilogy" when only two films in this entire series are good?

 No.2553

>>2552

Normies usually jack off to Empire Strikes Back. While nerds say "Muh New Republic and Jacen Solo"


 No.2556

>>2552

No. ESB was hot garbage.

The 1977 film is the only true good one.


 No.2557

… but the debate, when trimmed down to whether it stops being good at the first one or the second one, almost everyone is in agreement the third one and beyond was shit.

ESB is the best, and George couldn't stand that, he took over to prove he could take charge, and only he proved he couldn't.


 No.2558

>>2557

… says an increasingly nervous Mike for the hundreth time this year.


 No.2559

Who is Mike? Sounds like I may have to donate to his patreon.


 No.2560

>>2552

Because most people are plebs ruled by pleb-lords.


 No.2561

>>2559

That's right, Ja- uh, Anon!


 No.2563

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Empire Strikes Back is flawed by it's lack of a self contained story. It's unsatisfying to watch the movie by itself because there's no real payoff or conclusion to the story, it just ends abruptly on a massive cliffhanger that only serves as an advertisement for the next movie.

In contrast, the original Star Wars movie is completely self contained. It gives more than enough context for the world to the audience in the first half hour and ends with a great payoff. Even Return of the Jedi, which suffers like ESB from being heavily tied to another movie, has a payoff at the end that makes you feel like you've finished a complete story.

This isn't to say that Empire is a bad movie, I really like it. But it's only two thirds of a whole movie so unlike the other movies I can't just watch it by itself and feel satisfied at the end. It just leaves you hanging instead. I need to see it with Return of the Jedi or not at all, otherwise there's no payoff to the story it builds up.


 No.2566

>>2563

>>2563

>Empire Strikes Back is flawed by it's lack of a self contained story. It's unsatisfying to watch the movie by itself because there's no real payoff or conclusion to the story

[spoiler]You find out Vader is Luke's father.

You find out Luke needs more training to defeat his father.

You find out Leia and Han have a raging hard-on for each other.

You find out Vader is bottom bitch to the Emperor.

You find out Lando isn't such a bad dude.

You find out R2-D2 knows more about hyperdrives than anyone.

You find out Luke is a racist asshole that would judge someone based on their appearance.

You find out you could end the story right here, Han would be lost forever, Leia and Luke would hook up. Vader would take "no" for answer and never pursue Luke. Lando and Chewy would fly the Millennium Falcon around aimlessly.[/spoiler]

What more do you need?


 No.2567

>>2566

I need you to learn how to spoil things properly.


 No.2571

>there are people who unironically dislike Episode VI

Plebeians.


 No.2583

>>2571

>luke turns extremely retarded and puts everyone's life on the line with his nonsensical plan that only worked out because of sheer luck

>enigmatic bounty hunter bobba fett actually sucks ass

>death star again, destroyed by attacking its weak point with a ship again

>dancing funny teddy bears to sell kids toys

>heroes have crucial job to do at endor but decide to have a cute cuddly reunion with teddy bears who tried to kill them instead

>leia is luke's sister for no reason, ruining the little competition han and luke had for leia

>luke being a coy goody two shoes in front of his mighty arch enemies who can crush the rebels and all of his friends and enslave the whole galaxy

>emperor's elite stormtroopers trapping the shield generator are so incompetent that the rebels get very close to blowing it up

>everyone's acting is a bit off and han is no longer a remarkable character

>goofy blabbering alien in millenial falcon with lando makes billy dee williams question his choice in starring in this film

>legion of emperor's best stormtroopers and their armored walkers beaten by a bunch of dancing teddy bears using literally sticks and stones

>fucking war zone in endor and stormtroopers decide to approach and hold up han and leia instead of shooting them, inevitably getting shot instead

>demented moralfag luke skywalter refuses to fight the fucking emperor, evil mastermind of the whole galaxy, because killing is wrong muh darkside xdddddddd and would have died if dork vader didn't have a change of heart

>face reveal to ruin an enigmatic character who is now pussified, now luke has a whole retinue of ghosts

>dancing teddy bear planet party with everyone to celebrate, thanks for watching please buy our toys, kids! t. george lucas


 No.2585

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>>2553

And then there's us, true fans. ;}


 No.2587

>>2583

Please don't remember me of the "legion of best troops" who are so utterly retarded that they don't even try to confirm the id of that at-st pilot and go out and allow the bunker to be invaded. And neither emit a full alert to the whole garrison about a rebel attack on the rear/durr hurr secret entrance.


 No.2588

Anyone have the prequels infographic


 No.2591

>>2567

>I need you to learn how to spoil things properly.

I'll make sure to include it in the special edition of my post.


 No.2592

>>2591

With the amount of shit you'd have to correct I won't be holding my breath for that special edition post of yours.


 No.2593

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>Lucasfilm Ltd. presents

>a special edition of post >>2566

>>2563

>>2563

>Empire Strikes Back is flawed by it's lack of a self contained story. It's unsatisfying to watch the movie by itself because there's no real payoff or conclusion to the story

You find out Vader is Luke's father.

You find out Luke needs more training to defeat his father.

You find out Leia and Han have a raging hard-on for each other.

You find out Vader is bottom bitch to the Emperor.

You find out Lando isn't such a bad dude, and a pretty lax pimp.

You find out R2-D2 knows more about hyperdrives than anyone.

You find out Luke is a racist asshole that would judge someone based on their appearance.

Han is presumed lost to the bounty hunters forever and made a martyr of the Rebellion, Luke reconciles Leia with his penis in Han's absence.

Vader would take "no" for answer and never pursue Luke.

Lando and Chewy return to life of piracy aboard the Millennium Falcon.

Meanwhile, Lando spreads his seed, and adopts the tagline, you've been LANDO'D.

What more do you need?


 No.2836

>>2583

>dancing funny teddy bears to sell kids toys

>heroes have crucial job to do at endor but decide to have a cute cuddly reunion with teddy bears who tried to kill them instead

That's the theme of the movie stupid. Don't judge a book by it's cover as it foreshadows the plot-twist in Luke's battle with Vader.


 No.2883

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>>2566

>muh racism

>can't into spoiler

Hmmm……


 No.2897

>>2883

Seems we're getting a bunch of younglings the past couple days.




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