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 No.2135>>2139 >>2159 [Watch Thread][Show All Posts]

 No.2136

Wow who would have thought kids in the digital age wouldn't want to bother with shitty, uninspired nu-wars shit.


 No.2137

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Hopefully this is the beginning of the end for nuWars…


 No.2138>>2174

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Historically, Star Wars toys have always been top sellers. They couldn't rush them out fast enough when Star Wars first hit the big screen and the prequels had their toys flying off the shelves too. But despite this Disney just can't make anything marketable. My local store had a whole catalog dedicated to advertising all the Rogue One toys in advance of their release last year so I picked one up to take home and it was just full of overpriced junk like Bionicle-style Rey and Jyn figures. As of today, the only thing from that entire toy range that I've ever seen someone buy was the Krennic's Shuttle lego set.

Acquiring Star Wars was supposed to be part of Disney's big strategy for selling toys to boys because their merchandise has always been primarily for girls, so the executives are going to be gutted if they aren't raking in those toy sales.

We can thank Kathleen Kennedy for this. She's been very outspoken about not wanting Star Wars to be for boys and has been actively sabotaging the brand's male appeal for years so Disney is getting absolutely fucked.


 No.2139>>2140 >>2141

>>2135 (OP)

Back in 2005 I was 9 and really enjoyed the epIII toys and my older brothers other prequel toys. Whatever you want to say about the movies the figures were fun and I had friends who'd come over with their own and setup hour long battles.

There's nothing new with this foe Star Wars, no new creatures or aliens. Further the quality I bet has gone down. Any younger kids I've seen had some of the ep7 stuff but nobody got the Rouge One shit. I hope Disney rots some more for ending the original expanded universe.


 No.2140

>>2139

>foe Star Wars

Just a heads up it's "faux" as in the French word for false not "foe" like someone's you're enemy.


 No.2141>>2142 >>2148

>>2139

>Further the quality I bet has gone down.

the new figures are insultingly bad. even the old kenner lines were better.

disney really went the cheap route.


 No.2142>>2143

>>2141

basically if you want anything worthwhile you'd have to get something from the black series.

also, disney has their own ripoff of the black series, called the elite series iirc. literally the same as those hasbro molds but with better detail.


 No.2143

>>2142

oh, and the elite series is nothing but the disney productions, so the line is all episode 7 and rogue one related characters.


 No.2144>>2145

I got a few pieces from the Black series, may pick up a few more. Rest of the modern merch is trash though. Like they're intentionally putting out garbage. Honestly I don't understand, are they doing it so wrong on purpose or are they truly that incompetent?


 No.2145

>>2144

>Honestly I don't understand, are they doing it so wrong on purpose or are they truly that incompetent?

look at any figure series that predates the disney sale and you'll see it's fully intentional. they are jewing at every possible corner they can.


 No.2146>>2147 >>4147

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This is the sort of stuff I was seeing on the shelves almost twenty years ago.

Disney has even more resources and two decades worth of technological advancements to call upon when commissioning action figures. They have no excuse.


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>>2146

this, very much.


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>>2141

Wow I had no idea, a decade ago Star Wars toys were a work of art compared to that shit.


 No.2149>>2151

>>2148

funny thing is those figures you posted are arguably low detail as well. but the articulation on them blows the shit out of any of the regular disney figures.


 No.2150>>2151 >>2152

I would actually buy a Seventh Sister figure from the 6 inch black series if they made one. That is a Disney-era character but I bet they won't even make one.


 No.2151>>2152 >>2237 >>2238

>>2149

Yeah the element any Disney toy doesn't have, not only not being marketed to boys but girls because diversity. But also that there isn't anything new, there's no new cool vehicles, aliens or robots. If Star Wars had continued the EU especially by doing Legacy so you'd have all new actors but still some older looking stuff it'd be so easy to do toys, making figures from all the EU. It'd be so easy to make engrossing movies, huge amount of mythos, but they could never do that.

>>2150

I've always liked Dave Filloni, I wasn't a fan of Rebels but I can at least say it was capable and has done the most to create a mythos in nu-lore, the movies have been terrible with this. Oh yeah you touch a lightsaber and see the user's past? More like Harry Potter and Anakin did far more with that lightsaber then Luke did so you'd think one would be a stronger force.


 No.2152

>>2150

>>2151

I can respect Dave Filoni, more for Clone Wars especially its last season of course then Rebels. But based on the shit he was dealt of a dead universe he's done the best he can and that's why all of his stuff is going to be memory-holed at Disney, no more Rebels, because the cultural takedown of comic heros, Star Trek and Star Wars wasn't primarily done for just short profit.


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>>2135 (OP)

>tfw its happening

>tfw idiot friends stopped buying imperial toys after Rogue One writer said they're nazis

>tfw Disney's NuWars is digging its own grave


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>>2138

> the only thing from that entire toy range that I've ever seen someone buy was the Krennic's Shuttle lego set

The big black Trapezoid, really?

As a plastic brick addict, I know Star Wars Lego Ships usually don't do to hot on retail, but that's usually a combination of the "Star Wars tax" on top of the modern Starship Models being fuck HUEG…

Still, Krennic's Shuttle was one of the weaker Models of the Rogue One release, being a weird custom version of the generic Imperial Shuttles with an awkward layout both inside and out.

Compare that to the U-Wing (which while not great was a HUGE step up from the Force Awaken's Resistance Troop Transport), the TIE Striker, and the lasted Y-Wing, I'm rather surprised that a "Good source of Black Plates" was the only ship you saw sold.

And that's just the STARSHIPS, unlike the Force Awaken, Rogue One actually got some pretty amazing ground vehicles in the latest AT-ST and the Imperial Assault Hovertank, on top of some rather nice army building Battle Packs.

The Last Jedi releases are looking way better as well, having not only a much improved First Order Battle Pack but a greater variety of ship sizes other than X-wings and the Millennium Falcon.

Only real bad looking one of the bunch is the weird ass Strandbeest/AT-ST hybrid, and that's probably due to the same fuckery that gimped the wings on Kylo's shuttle,


 No.2175

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Saw this posted on /tv/


 No.2176>>2177

>>2174

wow, the AAT has come a long way. i still have the original.


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>>2176

>wow, the AAT has come a long way. i still have the original.

Yeah, lots of people complain because latest model is far smaller than the first or second iterations, but in my opinion it's far more sturdily built and nails everything it needs to have.


 No.2237

>>2151

> Anakin did far more with that lightsaber then Luke did so you'd think one would be a stronger force.

To be fair that's like Anakin's third lightsaber. It was only special because it was passed on to Lule.


 No.2238>>2239

>>2151

>I've always liked Dave Filloni, I wasn't a fan of Rebels but I can at least say it was capable and has done the most to create a mythos in nu-lore, the movies have been terrible with this.

I think that's just a result of how they're treating it. Before you could have other directors for the OT, but George was in charge so in addition to a script supervisor you had one voice for the whole thing. Now SW movies are something they rent out to whatever B tier director is interested. The LSG is a committee that basically exists to justify ideas that already exist from other people on board.

Filoni was George's protege. He worked with the man enough to understand what he liked and wanted and the feeling that resulted from that. You can say that an individual design may not work, or an individual detail isn't that great, but the overall shape of things is for better or worse more "Star Warsy" because Dave has been working on this for longer than Lucas was by the time Jedi wrapped up and on some level gives a shit about lore.

The other directors don't care because they don't HAVE to care. What the guys writing the guidebooks think isn't J.J. Abrams's problem, he just wants to make a movie and go home. Gareth Edwards may have played nice with everyone but ultimately he did make a movie that's difficult to build off because every place you saw was a smoking crater by the end and everyone with a name died. Rian Johnson may or may not do a better job than Abrams but his priorities are the same: Do this one job that's his concern and resume his career elsewhere. Star Wars as a long term project doesn't matter to them.


 No.2239

>>2238

>Gareth Edwards may have played nice with everyone but ultimately he did make a movie that's difficult to build off because every place you saw was a smoking crater by the end and everyone with a name died.

I would've liked to watch the movie he had in mind before Kennedy decided that it needed reshoots and Vader.


 No.2808>>2813

>>2159

>Imperials are nazis!

This moron had to be told that?

>>2174

So it seems the toymaking side of Disney is listening. We'll have to see if that pays off or not.


 No.2813>>2814 >>2895 >>4148

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>>2808

>>Imperials are nazis!

>This moron had to be told that?

They aren't. In b4

>/pol/

Nah. Current imperial government is human supremacist and the Empire as a whole is built around being a dictatorship, but that's where the similarities end. No eugenics or unscientific genetic theories, no pursuit of mythical and/or pagan powers (Tarkin all but laughs at Vader and dismisses him and his "religion" as atavism). The Rebel Alliance are not portrayed as some subhumans that should be cleansed to provide clay for muh Lebensraum (a blatant kikery /pol/ prefers to forget about) but simply remnants of an old, defeated regime that is a threat to stability of the fledgeling Empire.

The only striking similarities are visuals and perhaps the rule-by-terror strategy. But the former is a cheap way to clearly delineate the bad guys for the viewer and the latter is something not everyone in the Empire itself agrees upon - Vader criticizes it and even Sheev, while having too big of a hardon for wunderwaffen to avoid building a second FailStar, still gives priority to Force Sensitives.


 No.2814>>2815

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>>2813

Fair enough. Mind you, there have been examples of that showing up in more recent and I mean pre-Disney media, such as the Imperial Youth Program not the actual name, but that old magazine is long buried, COMPNOR, and the heavy coordination with major companies like Sienar Fleet Systems and Aratech.

Tarkin laughed at it? Don't you mean Admiral Motti?

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Conan_Antonio_Motti/Legends The "Canon" side depresses me.


 No.2815

>>2814

>COMPNOR

It's not like they created it, just repurposed. And propaganda ministries are par for the course in dictatorships.

The rest are valid points.

>Don't you mean Admiral Motti?

Well, shit. This what I get for re-watching the films less than every five years believing my memories have not significantly eroded yet.


 No.2895>>2900 >>2905

>>2813

Why was the Empire anthropocentric again? There are a couple of expedient explanations in the post-Disney books, but was it ever given any justification from the horse's mouth before the buyout? Because as far as I could tell, even though Palpatine was a Sith and the Sith only really care about Dark power, it was just that the Empire are evil therefore racism.


 No.2900>>2905

>>2895

Because humans are among the most numerous races in the Galaxy, and thus have a large manpower and political pool to draw from.


 No.2905>>2916

>>2900

>>2895

even still, sheev used aliens when he thought it necessary. the best part is nobody ever actually had any problems with the empire being a pure human organization. the only problem was that one jackass writer trying to claim it was all white males.


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>>2905

Actually on the side Sheev didn't actually care about the Human supremacist ideology versus aliens, he only saw it useful in order to have the Empire. It was more of a sentiment used for the Empire to inspire Human Revolutions against the Xenos on alien worlds and thus bring them under his control.


 No.2924

>>2916

well, assuming the whole "sheev was trying to save the galaxy from the vong" thing was true, it would make sense to raise a xenophobic attitude, as it would improve morale for fighting an invading alien force.


 No.4147

>>2146

Damn strong nostalgia.

I remember going to Walmart every week with my mom as a kid and checking out the figures. it took forever for them to get Darth Maul in stock. He was constantly sold out, I remember raging every time haha.


 No.4148>>4149

>>2813

- The Emperor was literally Hitler unifying the galaxy under a strong authoritarian regime taking the Republic away from the Globalists and giving direct control of the systems to regional governors instead.

-Vader represents the Schutzstaffel, the class of anticuck warrior monks loyal to the ideology/Hitler above all else.

- JEdi = JEws. Vader purging the Jedi Temple = the Holocaust

-Republic = Multicultural decaying shitshow. Empire = Pro Human(Pro White).

-The guy who wrote the Sith Code admits he based it on Mein Kampf and it also strongly resembles Nietzsche philosophy.

-They were only ever "evil" to rebel fags who were in open revolt against them, not evil for the sake of it. The Jedi attempted to genocide them years ago so they could rule over the multicult paradise unopposed. Alderan = traitor Commies. Fucking pussies got what they deserved.


 No.4149

>>4148

there was an old article on the relation between star wars and ww2, and pretty much everything you wrote is what they wrote.




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