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New trailer just arrived it's still not very good so let's have a thread for all Rogue One leaks and discussion.
▶ No.203
Meh…
>foregone conclusion
>strong wymyn
>force users around
>too much info in comparison to the original movie
>admiral nobody who wears a cape instead of moff Tarkin
>LOOK IT'S DARTH VADER!
Meh, just meh.
▶ No.204
Worse than TFA. Fuck this jewish bullshit.
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It looks like the reshoots changed the "I rebel" bullshit to "You're daddy's making the Death Star, you gotta stop him or something!" And it looks worse every new trailer. How do they keep fucking up like that?
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>>205
rewrites/reshoots. rumors is suits didnt really liked the grim rebel troopers look it got and wanted a adventure movie instead
▶ No.208
>>202 (OP)
>admiral nobody
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>>202 (OP)
Quite literally they've made Rule 63 Kyle Katarn. Honestly watch it, same fucking story. It would only be lazier if they called her Kylie Katarn.
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>>210
i don't know what's worse
the fact that this is what we're getting for a canon version of kyle and jan, or the fact that there are disneytards out there who refuse to see/believe it.
i tried telling some retard that rebels was clearly borrowing from the force unleashed with kanan and ezra, and all he kept saying was "nah dude"
it's impossible to even properly debate with these fuckfaces.
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>>207
It still looks fucking grim. Only this time it looks grim and dumb, I doubt the reshoots changed that at all. The Rebels (the no name grunts, not the diversity heroes) are even wearing US G.I. M69 Flak Vests and M1 Helmets from the Vietnam war! Though what do I expect from the retards that think a franchise called Star Wars shouldn't have any stars or wars in them.
>>211
I doubt DisneyWars fags ever played the Force Unleashed. Though I thought at first that Kanan was going to be the poor man's Katarn since Hera's voice actress played Jan in Dark Forces. But now we have two Kyle Katarn clones just like we have Luke/Han/Leia clones in addition to Luke/Han/Leia in the new trilogy. Soon everyone is going to be a bastardized clone of everyone else we knew before.
Coming Soon!
>Dash Rendar is now a feminist drug dealer with metaphors for birth control
>Jaden Korr is going to be another mary sue super Jedi that's 20000x better than Luke Skywalker when she was a baby
>Any Rogue Squadron character that hasn't already been ruined is going to come back black-faced or brown-faced (Because the best way to deal with racism is to force everyone to obsess over everyone's skin color)
>Thrawn's bodyguard is now a human femme fatale (oh wait that already happened)
>There will be some retarded explanation on why the Empire hates Xenos more than ever before but permits or endorses "human" diversity
>Wedge's droid Mynock will be a slapstick clown
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>>212
>A plot arc where Talon Karrde and Lando both tackle issues of misogyny and sexual assault.
>Sananigans and "unbiased discussion"
>In the end Lando learns to abandon his sexist ways an respect women
>Karrde violently opposes claims that his behavior is wrong, calls a chick fat, and is sentenced to a life on Kessel.
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>>212
>Hera's voice actress played Jan in Dark Forces
wow, and here i thought the hera = jan meme was more of a joke.
▶ No.259
>>202 (OP)
This shit makes TFA look good. How the hell could they make something less imaginative and lifeless than that?!
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>Rogue One writers shill safe space safety pins after election results.
Fuck, Star Wars truly is a lost cause…
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>>273
>Anti-Brexit diaper pins on the Rebel emblem
We're reaching new levels of pathetic. Next they're going to rewrite the First Order having a Trump style Grand Moff Making the Core Worlds Great Again and that would be bad because White (except when they need another backstabbing nigger) Human Male privilege or some shit.
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>>273
it doesn't help that he also came out and called the empire a white supremacist organization.
this is what makes me want to get a job at lucasfilm, so i can create content that will settle this horse shit, but at the same time i can't do it because if these assclowns are running the place now, no fucking way would i want to be associated with their level of retard.
call me when dave filoni or pablo hidalgo take over.
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>>276
The Empire was always a pro-human organization and in the EU their predecessors had a hardon for Sith Purebloods, but it was still fitting for the nature of their unique setting. This white supremacy bullshit is just dumbass libs trying to force real world politics into Star Wars and effectively ruining half their brand. I hope it fails horribly just to see Disney sell it again, but I know that won't happen and those fucks at Disney will run SW into the ground with their shitty "a star wars story" spinoffs.
>>274
Be ready, I think that faggot Chuck Wendig is already planning that for his next book. Hard to believe that piece of fat shit has replaced the works of Zahn…
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>>280
And even then, they still had aliens like Thrawn as part of their ranks despite that.
▶ No.293
>>210
>It would only be lazier if they called her Kylie Katarn.
No anon, that would be the decent thing to do…
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>>211
>it's impossible to even properly debate with these fuckfaces.
…
>the fact that this is what we're getting for a canon version
>canon version
>"canon"
>not Disney™ Starwars™
Well no shit anon you're practically one yourself
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>>294
shit, my bad anon. i know i'm a fuckface but it just kills me inside to see this actually happening, and all the cucks eating it up. of course, i am actively doing everything i can do dissuade people from instantly accepting these new movies (sadly it isn't working as well as i thought, only a few people are realizing that episode 7 wasn't that good).
▶ No.308
ayy lads, spoilers inbound
galen erso, father of not jan/rule 63 kyle, is a gender-bend rewrite of qwi xux
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Qwi_Xux
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http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Death_trooper
>Death troopers were known to wield blaster rifles similar to the E-11, blaster pistols similar to the SE-14C, and long-range blaster rifles similar to the DLT-19 heavy blaster rifle.
Similar i.e. the same shit but with an excuse to sell more toys. In fact, that applies to most of the "new" things in this movie.
They're also continuing the trend of taking names of things from the old EU and paving over them with new stuff under the same name. Not that I miss the creative bankruptcy of just sticking zombies in everything but they could have at least called these troopers anything that hadn't been used by the Star Wars brand before. Could have even said they were imperial-era upgrades of the original clone commandos/ARC troopers or something like that.
The silver lining is that they haven't stolen "dark trooper" yet. Hopefully they never will.
▶ No.317
>>306
Same. Surprisingly its been easier to convince some friends people online than my own father. He's about as pleb and normalfag as you can get.
▶ No.318
>>311
They will. I'm pretty sure their name has been dropped already among one of their future releases.
>hope begins
What a crock.
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>>322
comments for shits 'n giggles
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>>323
i hope the youtube comments section stays this retarded for all eternity
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>Rogue One commercial airs while watching TV with family for Thanksgiving
>Sister who's only seen ROTS remarks that it looks 'too new'
>Says she liked ROTS even though it looked newer than the clips she's seen of the originals but something about the Rogue One commercial bothers her enough to dissuade her from seeing it
>Feel good on the inside knowing she won't go see it just because it's filled with lasers and explosions
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>>347
For some reason, when we were younger, my older brother thought it'd be a good idea to take us and his kids to see ROTS without having seen any of the other movies just because he had and he didn't want to go alone.
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>>348
Oh, and to clarify, since then, I've watched them all including ROTS again.
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>>212
>The Rebels (the no name grunts, not the diversity heroes) are even wearing US G.I. M69 Flak Vests and M1 Helmets from the Vietnam war
This is the main reason why I've always hated the Rebels. The absolute worst faction in Star Wars history. Other factions are symbolic of Star Wars, especially the Stormtroopers but the Rebels is just a bunch of US marines. Like, if you show someone who hasn't seen Star Wars a Stormtrooper, they'd immediately know what it is but if you show them a Rebel trooper, they'd just say it's a US soldier.
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>>348
>>349
interesting, this makes you the 3rd person now that i've heard of having first seen a prequel film.
▶ No.352>>353
Some fags on jewtube are claiming that some have seen early screenings and that it sucks. Is any of this true? I mean it is jewtube after all.
>>351
It shouldn't be a surprise if they're really young (as in born in the late 90's) so they grew up on prequels and maybe some of the EU games.
>>348
Nothing wrong with that. Revenge is the only part of the prequel trilogy that matters and has anything to tie with the Original Trilogy
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>>352
There was a guy who saw the female GB movie early and posted a review a while before it released, so there's a small chance it could be legit.
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>>350
To be fair, even though the old costume designers were lazy with putting together rebel costumes they still weren't lazy enough to just grab Vietnam war surplus and pretend it's "spacey" enough for filming like the Rogue One people.
They could have rehashed the Endor costumes and nobody would have complained, but just sticking M1 helmets on them and hoping the audience doesn't notice is a new low.
>>351
I was almost one of those people. I didn't get to see the first two originals until they came out on DVD in 2004. Instead I got into Star Wars back in the 90s with only an old VHS tape of Return of the Jedi that I watched over and over again, and then Shadows of the Empire on the Nintendo which filled in some of the gaps.
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>>354
That still looks like some guy from the Vietnam War, albeit with a fancier hat. At least these ones feel Star Wars-y
▶ No.359
>>355
rotj was very much inspired by nam, so it makes sense there. anywhere else should be buckets.
▶ No.360
>>354
That and it gave the idea that the Rebels not only couldn't even afford to give a small infantry unit some armor (not that that shit does anything in Star Wars) but their behaviors emphasized mobility over protection. Plus they've always had different uniforms based on where the rebels were (Blue+grey on ships and bases in the first film, Winter gear in Empire, Woodland kit in Jedi) where Stormtroopers, barring their variants, remained constant in the entire franchise.
>>355
Ditch the blasters and the clunky hats and they would look like private security or a photojournalist
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>alleged spoilers
>Episode VIII will confirm Rey is the chosen one reincarnated, but reference Rogue One in the process.
>Jyn Erso is her mom. It was a virgin birth as well.
>This justifies what we see in Rogue One
>Namely that Jyn can interact with kyber crystals because she is force-sensitive.
>And because she can instinctively wield the Force SHE FUCKING KICKS DARTH VADER'S ASS IN THE CLIMAX.
>IT'S KYLO VS REY ALL OVER AGAIN
>LE POETRY LE RHYMES
I've been far more tolerant than most Star Wars spergs about the new canon, but if these rumors turn out to be true, I'm finished and will make Red Letter Media reviews look far too forgiving and open-minded
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>>392
Is this one of those (((fan theories))) where its either made up shit for clicks and views or some kind of repackaging of EU stories that the nuFans are parading as new "potential" stories? Because I wouldn't be surprised if they really did go back on their word about their No Jedi bullshit when they had the Don Quixote gook ranting about the Force
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>literally Daddy Issues: The Movie
▶ No.400
>>392
>And because she can instinctively wield the Force SHE FUCKING KICKS DARTH VADER'S ASS IN THE CLIMAX.
This was the thing I was worried about the most.
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>>392
>One shot nothing "I Rebel" bitch beats Vader
>the most iconic, most marketable, and arguably most loved character in the franchise
This is the worst thing that could happen. Like, I don't even want to believe they'd be this stupid. Love it or hate it, Rebels is treating Vader with a lot of respect, when he shoes up shit hits the fan. Even if she is super powerful in the force, Vader has canonically (in both real canon and in Jew canon) killed countless Jedi, no one should be able to kick his ass.
I'd bet my mortgage that seeing Vader on screen is the reason a good 60% of people are planning to see Rouge One, so even from a business standpoint this is fucked
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>>401
I fervidly hope that the source, a leak provider who claims to be associated with the man who slipped the 90% accurate summary of TFA (the one that Boyega bald-faced lied about being correct while performing damage control on Twitter), is just fishing for replies on Disqus.
I've liked all of the new canon books I've read so far and only gone out my way to avoid Cuck Wingding's Aftermath trilogy. The novels and comics have reversed the pussification of Darth Vader that accumulated in Legends over time and given more depth and complexity to Darth Sidious than material such as Dark Empire implied. This would be the sole sufficient factor for annihilating my good will towards the reboot. I don't even think Timothy Zahn could fix it with his new Thrawn book. I'd fully predict it to be butchered by executive demands from Lucasfilm higher ups to pepper it with their ideological bends.
And that's all this shit amounts to, anyway. I actually don't blame Disney since I'm pretty sure given how they manage their other properties they just want to put Star Wars on farm, stick the money in their ears, and go "pbbt!" They're probably giving Lucasfilm almost full creative control, which in turn is allowing Kathleen Kennedy and her cronies use it as a vehicle for political themes. She and they frankly don't care if they crash the franchise and then get fired by Disney for it; they have their fingers in other pies. They don't have to give a fuck about making Star Wars successful because they can move on to other projects and studios afterwards. Pushing their cultural biases successfully are good enough.
I'm positive that they're issuing top down edicts to fuck with their hired creative's output. Only Hidalgo and Fioni seem like they have enough clout or pull to be left mostly alone. James Luceno, Paul Kemp, and others are phoning in passing references to homosexuality and a kaleidoscope of genders in their books before dropping the subject altogether. They're obviously just scribbling it between the lines to fulfill some command from Lucasfilm, but it's telling that they're forced in and not something the writers intended to do on their own.
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>>402
Everything in the new EU sucks balls except for partially the comics which I agree try to make Vader less of the emo pussy that we started to see in the prequels, which is ironic for the comics since they're being published by Marvel, one of the most pussified, SJW and propaganda-spewing medias out there right now, so I'm all the more surprised with how 80s these comics sort of feel despite a few issues I've had here and there with non-Vader stuff. Regardless, this one good thing doesn't make up for just how bad the primary major media like the movies and games and the awful as fuck novels and other spinoff material are. Fuck all I wanted was an old EU with more badass Vader pre-prequel Vader and non of this new age writing style Wendig and his peers are doing and no Disney canon. Was that too much to ask?
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>>392
>only jedi can interact with the kyber crystals
>crystal changes color due to your attunement to the force
>sith can't normally use crystals and sort of corrupt them
who the fuck made this shit up? it was fine the way it was before, with the sith using artificial crystals to have stronger sabers and the colors determining your class within the order.
>>402
>>406
>new comics were good
fuck, what comics did you guys read? i couldn't stand that shit past 5 issues in either the main series or the vader spinoff. i won't lie, i am totally biased and asspained over lucasfilm/disney giving dark horse the shaft and returning to marvel to cut production costs (jews jewing hard as always), but you still can't tell me that the quality (minus some of the artwork) has seriously declined in comparison to what we had before. shit, even the earlier marvel runs were better than this new schlop.
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>>433
It's not that only jedi can interact with kybers, but they have special properties that require the Force to exploit safely and naturally. Apparently, the Death Star uses kybers for its planet exploding laser because that's just what happens when you try to conventionally infuse them with external energy and it can only be contained in a field instead of finely modulated.
Colors changing based on Force attunement was apparently what George Lucas wanted all along. The drafts for RotJ had Vader temporarily Force pull Luke's saber and dual wield with the blade of Luke's turning from blue to red as soon as Vader grabbed it. Lucas changed his mind when he decided that green stood out better against a cloudless Libyan sky and thought that Luke running away from Vader while he slung two lightsabers made for boring material.
That said, I'm still not exactly clear on the specifics. In Rebels, Ezra's first lightsaber had a blue beam but the new one he's made is green. What mood ring bullshit happened between then and now?
I didn't know anything about Sith being unable to normally use crystals. Sidious and Vader don't seem to have any trouble. I think Kylo Ren's just cracked because he's psychologically wrecked anyhow rather than him trying to depth charge into the Dark Side.
As for comics, I've only read about half of Darth Vader and the Lando miniseries. I read the first issue of Shattered Empire but never bothered finishing it. Still wondering why Sheev wanted to posthumously destroy all evidence of his being Sith. It seems like they're taking him in a different direction overall compared to the old Palpabutts who genuinely expected to live forever and rule the Galaxy with an army of planet eaters and mega ultra giga Star Destroyers.
Overall I prefer how the Sith are characterized in these newer comics, but the content involving the main cast looks pretty boring. There's a lot of filler for deep lore nerds, but not much in the way of an exciting story that stands on its own merits. I stopped paying attention to the Poe Dameron comics when it became clear they weren't going to drop much background on the First Order after the first issue.
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>>435
>Poe Dameron comics
that wasn't just a miniseries?
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>>392
Well fuck, guys, the likelihood of iRebel trampling Darth Vader in a fight just went up this evening. There was a behind the scenes video for Rogue One put out yesterday where you can see an armless, hairless human torso with alloy over the dismembered joints and a breathing mask that's clearly meant to be used for a scene where Darth Vader is healing in a bacta tank.
This is important because the leak I read where the guy claimed that Jyn hulks out on Force talent and defeats Vader in the finale also mentioned there being a plot point where Vader is injured earlier in the film and needs to heal in a bacta tank flanked by the Emperor's Red Royal Guards. Sheev is said to make a brief appearance as well, but he's played by some nobody whose face we never see. Probably because Disney/Lucasfilm couldn't get Ian McDiarmind to reprise the role and they came up with this cheap way to deflect fan criticism of the replacement.
It rhymes even harder than I suspected. Their justification for Finn and Rey defeating Kylo Ren in TFA was that Kylo had the odds stacked against him with both a bowcaster injury and his connection to the Dark Side being weakened when his patricide scheme backfired. Now they're going to say we shouldn't be mad that emotionless human marionette that is Felicity Jones goes action grrl on based Vader because he was handicapped by some random accident that happens in the earlier scenes.
It's not even the shit writing that offends me so much. It's their cynical, naked attempts at manipulating the audience.
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>>438
>Their justification for Finn and Rey defeating Kylo Ren in TFA was that Kylo had the odds stacked against him with both a bowcaster injury and his connection to the Dark Side being weakened when his patricide scheme backfired.
i don't get this at all. kylo whoops finn in a matter of like a solid minute, then has rey on the ropes until she just powers up.
they fucked themselves so hard with the writing, there's no getting out of it.
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>>438
Aggregate claims from /tv/:
>Darth Vader appears early in the movie. In a scene a group of Rebels are talking shit about his powers as if he's only an urban myth.
>Vader attacks slowly like a slasher villain. Originally, he was going to kill them all in this scene but the focus group whined that it made the movie look like a horror film and they were concerned about letting their kids see so many people be murdered that fast. Now he just lumbers menacingly.
>A TIE fighter is shot down overhead while this happens. Vader tries to push it away but can't divert it fully in time, so he stands his ground and tries to shield himself with the Force.
>Because of this, his prostheses are injured and he must chill in blue soup. This explains why he's a stiff, plodding animatronic in episode IV.
>While he's resting, Sheev (or some inquisitor in a black robe) taunts Vader.
>"lmfao u n00b. Omg this is liek Mustafar and le high ground all over again. Do not fail anymor kk?"
>Vader narrowly corners I. Rabble, but his new suit and cybernetics are just so uncomfy that he can barely keep her on defensive.
>She shoots him in the switchboard. He growls and shuffles away like a kicked dog.
>Multi-ethnic superteam astonished and inspired congratulate Ayyy Robble for doing the impossible
▶ No.489
>>486
>Vader can be defeated by simply hitting him in the flashy lights on his chest
At last I truly see, he could have been easily beaten in every single fight in the original trilogy but Obi-Wan and Luke just weren't as smart as the amazing Jyn Erso.
>Vader needs an excuse to be stiff in IV
Was he supposed to be as mobile as he was in the prequels right up until this movie in the new Disney canon? Well then, isn't it lucky the diversity rebels at the start of the film managed to lure him into that situation to get partially immobilized otherwise the protagonists of the real films would never have stood a chance. Thanks Disney for making Rogue One so hugely important to the plot of the original trilogy.
MAKE IT STOP
▶ No.493
>>486
>She shoots him in the switchboard. He growls and shuffles away like a kicked dog.
Why the fuck wouldn't he just absorb it like he did in Episode V? Goddamn Cuckqueen Kennedy hasn't even watched the movies.
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>>486
>She shoots him in the switchboard. He growls and shuffles away like a kicked dog.
Who wrote this, and who approved it. They need to be killed asap.
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>>498
>Who wrote this, and who approved it.
Disney
▶ No.501
>>486
>>Because of this, his prostheses are injured and he must chill in blue soup. This explains why he's a stiff, plodding animatronic in episode IV.
We don't need an explanation for why he was stiff in IV. He's a guy who got burned to a crisp and is held together by chewing gum, wire, and the Force.
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music actually sounds decent, much more williams-esque than force awakens, which was oddly done by williams, but he had some health issues going on during recording, which definitely took a hit on the writing and probably forced him to just re-use a bunch of cues.
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>>513
It does sound more Star Warsy than TFA's score. A lot of reiteration of ideas from ANH but that's to be expected with a film like this. I might actually enjoy listening to that when they release it.
John Williams put a lot of effort into composing something that sounded entirely new for TFA but maybe that wasn't the best strategy for a non-Lucas film that already felt worlds apart from the original Star Wars. The only track I can still remember clearly was March of the Resistance.
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>>514
>John Williams put a lot of effort into composing something that sounded entirely new for TFA but maybe that wasn't the best strategy for a non-Lucas film that already felt worlds apart from the original Star Wars.
really? all i can remember is the rebel alliance motif constantly being played through random tracks, and a few motifs that were borrowed from indiana jones and harry potter. shit was hardly original.
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>>515
I just got the impression that he was experimenting with new instruments on some of the tracks like the Peruvian flute-sounding thing he features heavily in this one.
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>>518
>Peruvian flute-sounding thing
oh child, lucky you i'm a bandfag, that shit ain't no peruvian flute, this is closer to what you're thinking of
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I'm a sucker for ominous male choruses, so the Snoke theme stood out for me. Apparently they're reading a Kipling poem aloud translated into Hindi.
>yfw it's "Take Up the White Man's Burden"
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>>514
>John Williams put a lot of effort into composing something that sounded entirely new for TFA
You're kidding, right? TFA's soundtrack was so bland and uninspired. He even re-arranged the Droid Invasion theme and called it March of the Resistance. Rey's theme has that "innocent child" thing but it goes against how the character was written (muh-rey sue). The whole soundtrack felt like if it was ghostwritten.