/sw/ - Star Wars

>>10751

What is this costuming? Does his jacket have completely non-functional chest pockets? Is he wearing a vest that's exactly the same color as his jacket on top of his jacket?

Are there any people who know anything about toys at Hasbro?

>>10786

Dude, its women directors and managers. Women can't know anything and ruin everything they touch.

>>10788

Shit no wonder GI Joe has been doing terrible.

>>10788

Were it so easy, dubsman. There's (((more))) to it than that.

>>10795

Gray Jedi suck.

>>10799

>I can use force lightning and I’m le no true good or evil but I’m actually just a good guy with white lightsabers I have it all figured out actually

>I wish I had a brimmed hat to tip

I dunno, why do you think?

>>10804

>Not him, but from what I've seen, its because according to how people misread the light and dark scales, and troll logic Tautology, it is impossible to be a "real grey Jedi" you just are a really shitty Jedi, or a really JEhitty Sith.

Clearly you aren’t me since you’re a retard. Yoda describes the Dark Side as an addictive force that fucks you up, that’s quick and easy but essentially worshipping death and domination and these things consume the user. Not the Sith, mind you, the Dark Side. The Gray Jedi concept is ‘lolnope, I can use the Dark Side and not turn into an evil addict because moderation and white lightsaber.’ So either the Jedi are retards and the ‘truth’ is you can have a lightsaber katana and fedora or the Gray Jedi is a dumb concept only found in EU stuff and not the original films.

>>10806

>Original films

Well the original films where meant to still a classic story about good vs evil. I wasn't expecting Star Trek from that, but in any case.

>Yoda describes the Dark Side as an addictive force that fucks you up.

I get that, but that basically how "power" works in any form. "Absolute power corrupts absolutely". You give any untrained undisciplined person a huge natural advantage or super power, they might just go full asshole. Might go full saint, or just do enough to get by.

>Its a drug

>but its inside all of us.

Still has the problem that regardless of its addictiing property you still have everyone one in the galaxy that can stumble upon finding out they can move shit with thier minds, and the various other like minded beings that would cluster together over time. That was the point I was getting at.

>>10799

>Can you explain why the gray jedi sucks?

Buckle up buckaroo

>>10808

This video does the, "if you actually attempt to do an action you automatically fall into the Sith or Jedi way", so you can only do nothing to count as a grey jedi. Which makes the argument meaningless in all honesty.

>>10807

You seem to be abstracting and also not understanding that The Force, and The Dark Side of the Force are actually different things. Power corrupts, yes, but the Dark Side LITERALLY corrupts someone, not just in a "well if they were enlightened/disciplined they wouldn't have that problem" way. Drawing on the force for evil, out of rage or anger, these things pull you down and make you an evil person (not just through the action).

>>10809

So you dismiss 40 minutes because of one statement? What about how grey jedi have emotional connections and as such are doomed to fall to the dark side when those connections are preyed upon? I've rewatched half the video at this point and very little of it has been about what you just said. Also how is what you just said wrong in any way? If you act for good you're a Jedi (just a shitty one who isn't at peace) and if you act for evil you're a Sith (just a shitty one who hasn't fully committed). Sorry it doesn't fit your narrative, but it sure as fuck doesn't make the whole 40 minutes of information meaningless.

>>10810

>If you act for good you're a Jedi (just a shitty one who isn't at peace) and if you act for evil you're a Sith (just a shitty one who hasn't fully committed). Sorry it doesn't fit your narrative, but it sure as fuck doesn't make the whole 40 minutes of information meaningless.

I already watched the video from previous threads, but that was his final conclusion at the end, what he was working towards "proving". "Doing nothing if the only true grey move."

>You seem to be abstracting and also not understanding that The Force, and The Dark Side of the Force are actually different things.

Are you refering to "just the films no EU" or "EU has a a darkside hell realm called Chaos where all the Sith lords are chilling."

By just going on the original film themselves we only get a vague understanding on its "intentions" but yes the dark side of the is basically chaos incarnet and it wants to be used and grow, or starts drilling holes into the user's brain like how narcodics start drilling holes in your brain because your body can't handle the power/shouldn't. That still would not discount the fact that random backwater force adepts would hear the whisper the dark side to behead someone in its name, and some force adepts might just stop and realize thats a bad idea and to stop listening to those pulls. While yes, other would go full jihad.

>>10814

Empire outright states that The Dark Side is different and that it's more seductive and easy, straight out of Yoda's mouth. Also fuck anyone who wants no EU, sounds like some Disneyfag shit. The dark side pulls the user down when called upon, period. That's how it worked in Return and Empire.

>>10814

Also:

>implying he didn't prove it

>implying doing nothing isn't the only grey jedi move

I asked you how that was wrong in any way, nice avoid nigger.

>>10818

>he's still ignoring that the dark side is a thing

>all these strawman quotes no one said

There are no Mary Sue characters who can "skate between the two ends", if you use the Dark side or draw on the Dark side at all it turns you evil. End of story. Fedora tippers need not apply to the Star Wars universe. You are either Selfish, Selfless, or Apathetic, end of story.

>>10819

>he's still ignoring that the dark side is a thing

I'm not ignoring the darkside pull thing. You can just have a character who can tell the dark side to fuck off with out also being a holy beacon of light. I don't know what else to say about it.

>all these strawman quotes no one said

He totally framed it like that.

>>10820

>You can just have a character who can tell the dark side to fuck off with out also being a holy beacon of light.

No, you can't. You don't just "tell the dark side to fuck off' you fedorafag.

>I don't know what else to say about it

So basically you have nothing of value to say? Good to know.

>He totally framed it like that

No faggot, you did. I just watched the whole video and everything you greentext there was strawman as fuck. Watch the video again, this time try listening instead of pretending that you know better than everything in it (I know, it's hard for a fedoralord like you), and realize that outside of Mary Sue faggotry no one can just walk the line because they're such enlightened individuals.

mis post

>>10822

>So many counts of fedora.

Seriously where is that even coming from.

>So basically you have nothing of value to say? Good to know.

I mean, its just becoming, "NO YOU CAN'T, YES YOU CAN!" At this point.

>No, you can't. You don't just "tell the dark side to fuck off' you fedorafag.

>What do Jedi do.

So are you saying will power doesn't count. That needs to be a factor inorder for it to work in the first place. I guess people get defaulted to lightside technically.

>>10827

You just fundamentally don't understand Star Wars, or the Force. I bet you loved Last Jedi.

>>10828

Hated it actually.

>>10829

I'm surprised. Rey seems like exactly the sort of character you're hyping up. She's temped by the dark side but nothing comes of it because she's just too good for temptation! WHAT A FUN CHARACTER TO WATCH!

>>10827

>So are you saying will power doesn't count.

Different anon, but it clearly doesn’t count for much when you are an active dark side user. Anakin choked his pregnant wife when he had fallen and had to think about stepping in to save his son as he was being electrocuted by a man who just tried to have him killed.

>What do Jedi do.

They avoid using the Dark Side completely and their warnings about it are very strong. The Gray Jedi approach is with the proper hat you can master the Dark Side by just using it a little bit. Luke almost fell to the Dark Side after using it once in a fight against Darth Vader.

>>10830

>She's temped by the dark side but nothing comes of it because she's just too good for temptation!

Thats the least of her problems, but her tempters are the easiest people to say no to consideing that they been actively trying to kill her earlier, and mind raping. That she somehow fought back against. Basically, you've been told these guys are crazy, and you just witness them being crazy. You really wouldn't want to be around them for very long. Its not even being seen at the current ruling power, but an armed militant groups. Hell, she didn't even get "tempted" by evil pit, it just said nothing to her and put her in a hall of mirrors, or Snokey did some shit or something.

>Mirrors

>She only cares about her self, she in the universe

>GENIUS 10/10 best special effects

She is doing a better job tempting her teen romance dark brooding bad boy then he is. Thats not even touching not Darth Caedus insta 180. Unle tried to kill you? Go home and tell your princess mom? Ride around with your not dead beat dad? Nah, join Armed militants and kill them all to spite uncle. Dyed hair woman really was the purple cherry on top.

>>10831

>Anakin choked his pregnant wife

Well that was also the same day week? how long did it take to get to Mustafar? where he didn't get that promotion, then assisted firing the VP of the Jedi order out a window, and then killed the company day care program child by child. He was having a bad day.

>They avoid using the Dark Side completely.

They obviously still have to resist its pull if its an ever looming threat with some of them falling every so often. "Thier say no to Darkness 101" pamplet or something.

>>10832

>They obviously still have to resist its pull if its an ever looming threat with some of them falling every so often. "Thier say no to Darkness 101" pamplet or something.

In christian theology there’s a concept of avoiding sin vs avoiding the occasion of sin. The concept is that, being a fallible human being, you are probably not strong enough to resist temptation if you are in a situation where you will be tempted, so avoid such situations. Minimizing such exposure to temptation will ultimately prevent you from sinning, even if you do resist temptation once or twice in the occurrence of your life when it came upon you due to circumstance.

The Jedi practice this with the dark side as much as possible and spend a great deal of time teaching padawans methodology to resist temptation. This is why Yoda’s attitude was “we’re fucked” when Luke left during ESB and their only focus was about more or less his soul.

anyone gonna hot glue it

>>10749

>Marvel and Star Wars.

This is the sorta podcast I've been trying to find for awhile. Thanks OP for introducing me to this.

>>10795

>the post

>the pic

What do either of these have to do with what we're talking about? Also, learn your English better.

>>10845

You're setting up the PC's future actions, so you have both options available for alignment system reasons I'm guessing, whether or not your character is truly looking for a reason to fuse.

>>10840

That's a waste of perfectly good baby batter. Hotglue should be saved for models of your waifu.

>>10749

Only thing worse than this bitch are her fans.

The comments section in this video is nothing but pure cringe. First post right off the bat is "let the past die". Followed by Ackbar dissing.

>>10908

>What happened to this world?

Political correctness.

"Grey jedi" can encompass a couple different ideas.The idea of harnessing the force while neither touching the dark side nor having anything to do with the Jedi's overbearing philosophy is sound. See Imperial Knights. The idea of freely drawing on both the light and dark sides is indeed retarded and uninteresting. "This character can use ANY powers because they're ABOVE your silly notions of good and evil!" will eternally be fanfiction tier

>>10868

It's a shame that cool visual gets wasted in this film.

>>10920

The Gray Jedi are an actual group with their own philosophy which says there is no light and dark, only the force. They aren’t a catch-all term for non-Jedi and non-Sith.

>>10868

> First post right off the bat is "let the past die"

What a bunch of fucking hypocrites. They can't make anything new and original for themselves, so they take the past and mutilate it into an unrecognizable mess to suit their retarded standers. Its more like "rewrite/revision the past".

>>10925

Let them, misplaced nostalgia is the only thing keeping this abortion of a reboot solvent anyways. With the main cast dead, the more OC DONUT STEEL these hacks try to inject into these films the quicker they will die.

>>10927

>solvent

That reminds me, though: what will it take for either investors/shareholders/whatever at Lucasfilm or at Disney to intervene? What could give them the courage to say "NO" to Kathleen Kennedy, queen of Hollyweird connections? Don't tell me "nothing," we're seeing something like this at Marvel, and in politics the structures protecting the past regime are being purged bit by bit. Even #MeToo is starting to blow up in people's faces.

>>10928

>What could give them the courage to say "NO" to Kathleen Kennedy, queen of Hollyweird connections?

Like you said, she has connections, the feminists lobbies inside Hollywood (she's also one of the leaders behind the #ItsTime), she is where she is now because of the connections and not because of her talents, etc.

Amy Pascal was never "fired" from Sony, she got promoted elsewhere.

If they want Kathleen Kennedy gone, she'll be promoted as the head of another division, like I said many times, I think she'll become the boss of Fox and she will ruin most of the major Fox franchises.

>>10925

If they wanted to let the past die, why aren’t they watching a different science fiction series?

>>10928

>That reminds me, though: what will it take for either investors/shareholders/whatever at Lucasfilm or at Disney to intervene?

They have to be convinced that she’s doing poorly at earning shekels. Bear in mind most corporations are owned by mutual funds run by some group of mid-level Jews investing money from the 401Ks of clueless boomers. There’s no owner or group of owners to soeak of. Major corporations become a clubhouse for a few guys who basically can spend other people’s money on shit.

>>10928

>we're seeing something like this at Marvel

only in the comics, not the movies. the comics have been tanking for years due to the sjw/pc pozzing, and they only recognized it last year or so, hence yet another restart. the movies on the other hand keep bankrolling that shit and capitalize on it.

>>10930

Hm. What about (((Bob Iger)))? Surely he realizes by now that acknowledging Trump's tax breaks means that he will be branded a heretic by the DNC and the frothing leftists. His attempt to start a political career is already over before it began.

>>10920

>>10839

Starting to see why people have such a hate boner with the greys now. No they aren't "above" light and dark. It just that you don't go full dark side after one force lightning and say "hey I better kill some children". Its a progression thing. Someone closer to the line would defiantly run the risk more often. You don't snort crack once and become a full on addict. It took Anakin a entire war worth of questionable actionds, and Palpatine constantly trying to "seduce him" before disarming a blackman before the man put him down, and Anakin was a darkside crack baby because Sheev and Master did Force Impregnation or something. So by that logic there would be others who would be somewhere closer to that line, but might never get crossed, if only because the oppurtunity for a crossing never happend, or the offer wasn't "good enough"/stronger will at least for now. It defiantly isn't "good" for you, but you could probably do a few force grips on a few pig guards and still realize maybe you shouldn't just kill your dad on the ground. This Hoth fight made no sense to me, but looked cool.

>>10923

also this

>Someone should just bump the grey jedi thread.

>>10941

The Grey Jedi Philosphy is that there is no Dark Side, so they have no reason to stop using Force Lightning whatsoever. It is established the Dark Side exists and is addictive, so they’re morons. You can’t use the dark side ‘just a little bit.’

> You don't snort crack once and become a full on addict.

But the idea that crack is not addictive (which is more or less the Gray Jedi concept) is bound to lead you to be fucked up, which is how anyone who employed Force Grip routinely turned out.

>you could probably do a few force grips on a few pig guards and still realize maybe you shouldn't just kill your dad on the ground

You could, but the point was to show that Luke was walking a dangerous line. There’s a reason Palpatine thought he could be turned. Gray Jedi philosophy is ‘meh, that was fine. Just be euphoric.’

>>10941

anakin's biggest driving factor was his mother. she died in his arms, he couldn't do a thing, so when palpatine told him the story it was the perfect pull.

>>10948

What I wonder about is did Palp see in to the future (wouldn't be surprising, but odd the Jedi couldn't and he could) or did he have something to do with the Sand People taking Vader's mother? It's too perfect of bait to have been just coincidence, plus I don't get a coincidence feel from Palpy.

>>10949

>did Palp see in to the future

If Mace Windu has the ability to see shatterpoints, I'm sure Sidious has his own bag of Sith tricks to pull similar results. Even if he couldn't, I'm sure he was savvy enough to see the opportunity down the line with his political skills.

>>10950

Yeah, Palp seeing in to the future just makes the most sense. Would have been sweet if we had found out he was following his own ancient Sith prophecy.

>>10949

>did Palp see in to the future

It's outright stated in the EU half the shit he does in the Rebellion era is based on visions of the future.

>>10952

Now that I think about it a lot of the things he says in Empire and Return make it pretty obvious too. Including Darth Vader talking about his vision of Luke's future. Silly question the more I think about it.

>>10949

palpatine knew everything and was pretty much behind everything. maybe the only thing he didn't plan was anakin marrying padme, but he certainly used it to his advantage.

>>10955

>everything

He couldn't foresee

>the Jedi involvement in the TF blockade of Naboo

>Amidala decision to return to Naboo

>Maul's death

>Anakin's existence in Tatooinee

>Anakin slaughter of Arabs (Anakin confided that one with him)

>Anakin and Padme marriage (he got tipped by the holyman)

>Padme delivery of the the twins

>DS destruction

>Luke on Endor

>Vader's betrayal

He was pretty clueless around vital events who actually affected him personally.

>>10962

Never said his visions weren't flawed or that he was capable of properly preparing for them.