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Use this for cross-dimension shitposting https://nerv.8ch.net/trek/trekgenrl/1701/strek/streak/startrek/furtrek

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a0c144 (1) No.9966>>9972 >>9985 >>15370 >>17675 [Watch Thread][Show All Posts]

>All this talk about burgers on this board made me look up Star Trek Burgers for a laugh

>First result is about a Yakki Burger

>Apparently McDonalds Japan made a Star Trek themed burger campaign

>They actually made a movie about a Star Trek themed crew exploring a burger to promote it

WHERE DO WE FIND THIS MOVIE?

f54754 (6) No.9972

>>9966 (OP)

>WHERE DO WE FIND THIS MOVIE?

The internet


d783f6 (1) No.9974>>9976 >>9981 >>9987 >>18446

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

Why do burgers get shit on for eating burgers, look at this Jap loading up for a scat video by eating a bunch of hamburgers.


f54754 (6) No.9976>>9997 >>18050

>>9974

Burgers are fucking delicious. Even the French eat more hamburgers than their traditional French ham sandwiches.


84f586 (1) No.9981>>9998 >>15362

>>9974

because burgers get fat from eating burgers

gooks use some weird magic


0ae20a (1) No.9985

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>>9966 (OP) (righteous)

Yakki: The Movie has stronger worldbuilding and greater respect for Star Trek canon than STD. I like it.


258b96 (1) No.9987>>9992 >>9996

>>9974

>loading up for a scat video by eating a bunch of hamburgers.

srs?


a40389 (1) No.9992>>9995

>>9987

>not capitalizing on your bowel movements

srs?


404c1c (5) No.9995

>>9992

I am a bowel movement.


404c1c (5) No.9996

>>9987

Yeah seriously.


404c1c (5) No.9997

>>9976

Burgers saved the world


404c1c (5) No.9998>>9999 >>10026

>>9981

Gooks are weird.


404c1c (5) No.9999>>10026

>>9998

They are.


ca68a3 (1) No.10009>>10022 >>10045 >>10173

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I'm surprised that no one in Japan has tried making knock-off Trek about cute girls staffing a spaceship, exploring the stars, meeting aliens, and dealing with wacky cosmic shenanigans.


51f9e5 (1) No.10022>>10094

>>10009

I would watch/masturbate to the shit out of that.

On a side note. Irresponsible captain Tylor was a pretty hilarious space anime with some trek influence.


c7b335 (1) No.10026

>>9998

>>9999

We have ID's here, samefaggot. Filtered.


f47200 (1) No.10045>>10047 >>10246

>>10009

Trek doesn't have enough mechs or tiny star fighters for anime.


8043bd (3) No.10047>>10050

>>10045

Actually it does if you count Starfleet Battles stuff as canon which a fair chunk did see it's way into canon


12c752 (3) No.10050>>10097

>>10047

Hydrans in canon, when? I want it so bad.


f716c3 (1) No.10094>>10165 >>10175 >>18111

>>10022

Anime aint my thing but Irresponsible Captain Tylor was great. Decided to watch a few episodes after seeing it mentioned somewhere here on 8 Chan, maybe /co/ or whatever, and I end up binging a chunk of it and lost track of time. I admit I wouldn't mind seeing a few episodes of a Trek series that featured a captain who just lucked into every victory. A Tylor standing shoulder to shoulder with the Picards and Janeways. That'd be a a real laugh.


8043bd (3) No.10097

>>10050

I wish, some parts such as fluff on Orions and a few races get referred to in canon along with a few starships get cameos in TNG but not all.


036fc6 (1) No.10129

Just missed it or at least its "unavailable" so sad


f54754 (6) No.10165

>>10094

There's an OVA too, but I had just finished the series and got bored with it after the third episode. I guess I was expecting it to hit the ground running like the first episode of the series, which is arguably one of the funniest.


68b24b (1) No.10173

>>10009

> Decades of trying to make Kirk's academy days work out

> Japan gets there first after having enough of schoolgirls in World War II machines


12c752 (3) No.10175>>10192 >>20111

>>10094

If you enjoy sci fi anime that isn't just giant robots I could recommend a few series.

>Rocket Girls

Very hard sci fi series that is essentially Kerbal Space Program the anime.

>Planetes

Very hard sci fi series about a group of astronauts who spend their time trying to clean crap out of orbit for safety reasons.

>Starship Operators

A group of kids on a schoolship are stuck in space when their country gets invaded and taken over. They buy the ship and start a resistance movement and play it as a reality tv show to fund their private war.

The sci fi is fairly hard and the kids do die in droves as the invaders start hunting for them.

>Legend of the Galactic Heroes

Do I even need to explain this one?

>Space Dandy

Softest of the soft sci fi about a womanizing version of han solo exploring planets, hunting for rare aliens and visiting his local hooters bar regularly.

>Banner of the stars/Crest of the Stars

3 series about a kid who's dad sold out his planet to invading space elves, both making him an infamous quisling back home and a member of the invading elves nobility at the same time. The kid now has to join the elves navy and fight in a war against the nations of mankind who fight back against the elves.

Coincidentally, the elves are depicted as the good guys, because that want to take all access to space away from humanity.

An insane premise, but an amazing depiction of space combat.

I'm sure others can add to the list of recommendations.


de1fc9 (1) No.10188>>17675

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Still searching for this movie


f54754 (6) No.10192>>10211

>>10175

Space Dandy is seriously underrated. Watanabe is in top form. I think people were expecting it to be gritty like Cowboy Bebop. Instead they got a super silly irreverent space comedy with plenty of T and A. Technically it is in the same universe as Bebop, just much farther in the future. A serious Bebop fan should have no trouble making the connection. The show is beautifully drawn, with many many different people doing character designs for the aliens so that each one is truly unique. The soundtrack is excellent and fairly eclectic as well. I don't know why this anime is passed over so often. It instantly became one of my all time faves, right up there with Bebop and Evangelion.


8a3080 (2) No.10211>>10232

>>10192

I think the other thing that threw people off was how almost every episode was self-contained. Bebop did something similar but not many shows do it anymore and I want to say it came out just as shows with heavy continuity were getting popular.


f54754 (6) No.10232>>10256

>>10211

I don't doubt you. I just find it all very frustrating. I have a feeling Funimation was frustrated, too. Dandy actually premiered in the US in English before it did it Japan in Japanese. I think Funimation was expecting it to be a huge success.


425e1c (1) No.10246>>10262 >>10297 >>18094

>>10045

>Trek doesn't have enough mechs or tiny star fighters for anime.

Mechs could be a potentially interesting addition to the lore, but dogfighting and zoomy shuttles and "star fighters" already exist and they've been cancer to the franchise. Star Trek is about slow, ponderous naval battles.


8a3080 (2) No.10256

>>10232

No, I totally agree. It's a shame everyone forgot about it after it aired. It had a pretty good dub, as dubs go, too.


27c6c4 (1) No.10262>>10265 >>17668

>>10246

star trek works best when the ships are a combination of submarine and battleship.


8043bd (3) No.10265

>>10262

Balance of Terror really was gold.


116ad2 (1) No.10297>>10308 >>17654

>>10246

>Star Trek is about slow, ponderous naval battles.

Does that metaphor include Aircraft Carriers and Amphibious Assault Ships? What about corvettes, destroyers, boats both gun, torpedo, patrol, and any other unrated ship?


771e85 (1) No.10308>>10493 >>10496 >>10538 >>10564

>>10297

>does that include a bunch of shit to show off my naval knowledge?

carrier ships always seem to come up in starship discussions. I don't recall anything canon off-hand but i vaguely remember those FAFSA games having one. The question is.. what are they supposed to be carrying. If it's zoomy fighter-ships, i'd say that pretty much subverts Star Trek. A carrier for shuttles seems pretty pointless when you consider that the Starfleet heavy cruisers already have a pretty massive shuttle bay (or 3).

Lately, i've been toying with the idea of a carrier for warp-capable runabout type ships… basically the mother(ship) of all starships… a true flagship that's essentially a mobile starbase.

Basing a post-Voyager series on a ship like this would be pretty interesting, i think, considering it could combine the best of TNG (starship boldly going…), DS9 (space station) and anthology series (chance to explore different ships, crews, and characters as the series progresses). WTF it would exactly be doing out in space is another question. War seems pretty obvious, but do we really need another edgy war drama?


237c22 (1) No.10493>>10525 >>10538 >>17655

>>10308

What about a series involving a long-term exploration mission of one of the other quadrants? A giant carrier/starbase to service a fleet of ships, moving through uncharted territory. Perhaps the decision being made after the Dominion War not to send out single ships on their own, but to make sure that an entire fleet could be supported on a voyage into the unknown. Like Voyager in reverse, except not terrible.

I dunno, it's just a thought. That's the only other scenario I can think of for wanting (as you put it) a mobile starbase in a series, apart from "because it's cool."


d5bbae (1) No.10496

>>10308

DS9 had a few references to carriers with them only used in major fleet engagements and even then their only use was padding out forces and trying to annoy Cardassians into breaking formation. They didn't seem that effective and towards the end of the Dominion war it seemed they were used less and less with the only exception being the final battle where they literally were throwing everything they had into the fight.

Seemed that everyone took a look at Jem'Hadar Fighters and Klingon Bird of Preys and decided that they needed small Frigate ships to compete with them.


b61a17 (1) No.10525

>>10493

yeah, i was pretty much thinking an optimistic version of nuBSG - an anti-STD type series. deep-space exploration on a giant carrier vessel would be perfect for an Enterprise-F.

The max estimated lifespan of starships is ~100 years, but the only Enterprise (starfleet vessel) to actually live to see decommissioning spent most of its life as the Yorktown and only made it to ~50 years anyway. The average actual lifespan of starships named Enterprise is about 20 years, with the safest, most elaborate glorified cruise ship (Enterprise-D) lasting a mere 7 years. If we're counting in real time, that ugly squashed movie prop Enterprise-E is ~20 years old. It's overdue for a replacement.

A series featuring a massive, explorer/hub type supership could be so awesome. I dont see anything like that being greenlit by CBS or Paramount any time soon.. and they'ld poz the fuck out of it anyway… but as pirate canon, it could be an amazing project.


12c752 (3) No.10538>>18076

>>10308

The carrier/mothership mostly just needs some kind of justification.

Fighters in the sense of "modern fighter jets in space" like Star Wars and BSG (nu or original) doesn't fit in trek.

My guess is that phasers/disruptors are too good at picking them off and its impractical to fit them with enough firepower to threaten a large vessel even in groups, compared to the price of just building large vessels to do the same.

Hence, carriers as a counter to ships of the line just aren't practical.

But carriers could fulfil other roles. Like patrol ships, with a single carrier operating as a base of operations for a number of smaller vessels, allowing it to cover more territory than a single big ship on its own could.

I like to think of the Vo'quv in STO as being a ship for that kind of role, with a crew big enough to encompass an entire regiment of ground troops and carrying a wing of BoP's that work as long range patrols and transports for the ground troops. This could also work as a transport for troops during planetary invasions or convoy escort duty.

These kinds of roles I could imagine carriers being used for in trek.

>>10493

I don't see how this would have anything in common with the premise of DS9 though. The entire point of DS9 is that the station isn't going anywhere, so instead of having a planet of the week, the crew would have to deal with the same local aliens whining about "muh occupation" and the same border tensions with the damned spoonheads on a regular basis.

By making the ship that is the focus of the series into a carrier, you loose the focus on local politics since the carrier goes to new planets all the time instead of being stuck in the same place all the time.


f54754 (6) No.10564>>10578

>>10308

>FAFSA games

Wow. Things have really changed since I went to college. Back in my day we just applied on the government website. Glad to see they're trying to make it fun.


07fe95 (1) No.10578

>>10564

>>FAFSA games

>Wow. Things have really changed since I went to college. Back in my day we just applied on the government website. Glad to see they're trying to make it fun.

Ha! Ya I guess i had student loans on the brain, anon. FAFSA would be the worst at making Trek games, tbh. Nothing but the Kobayashi Maru forever…


fd16df (1) No.12680>>15355

Remember when anons used to discuss burgers on /strek/? I miss that.


4908a5 (1) No.15353>>15355 >>17675

Did we ever find this movie?


68256f (1) No.15355

>>12680

I had a burger at Denny's the other day and was really surprised how excellent it was. The patties has a well browned crust, but were ridiculously juicy. The juices kept trying to run down my forearm. It was probably one of the best burgers I ever had, and it came from a Denny's of all places.

>>15353

No. I looked for several days, and came up with nothing. In Japan everyone makes movies about everything all the time. Thing's that would barely make it as hour long DVD specials here get theatrical release in Japan. A movie made to sell a burger is a minor footnote.


36f5b3 (2) No.15362

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>>9981

>gooks use some weird magic

I love Americans. Only in the States could the concept of moderation be held akin to witchcraft.


9a0838 (1) No.15370>>15381

>>9966 (OP)

Why is everyone ignoring the ewok?


36f5b3 (2) No.15381>>15571

>>15370

Because unlike Star Wars fans, we actually have the option.


9bf815 (1) No.15571

>>15381

Cuck Wars fans truly are suffering.


908776 (1) No.17188>>17271 >>17277 >>17669

What would a swole burger be like?


f086be (2) No.17271>>17285 >>17513

>>17188

Ever dislocate your jaw to fit something in your mouth?


b4be70 (1) No.17277

>>17188

Four thick half pound patties, four extra thick slices of cheese, two fried eggs, and two Ribeyes instead of buns.


20e20a (1) No.17285>>17286 >>17297

>>17271

We don't want to hear about your undercover trip to Risa, Romulan slut.


cb9042 (1) No.17286

>>17285

Anon, his burn wild

Me, my sides split


f086be (2) No.17297

>>17285

I'm sure your mom's told you all about it already.


2246e1 (1) No.17513>>20113

>>17271

Where no jaw has gone before.


10a52c (2) No.17654

>>10297

>Aircraft Carriers and Amphibious Assault Ships? What about corvettes, destroyers, boats both gun, torpedo, patrol, and any other unrated ship?

Aircraft carriers and smaller vessels in general are retarded with Light Speed weapons being used within a Light Second.

Star Trek ignores this for drama, but really, every shuttle craft ever should instablapped to death, and the Defiant should have been fored to show off its armor more often for when it recieved constant unceasing phaser fire from enemy ships.


10a52c (2) No.17655

>>10493

>Perhaps the decision being made after the Dominion War not to send out single ships on their own, but to make sure that an entire fleet could be supported on a voyage into the unknown.

It would get treated like the fleet of conquest it is, warning would be sent ahead of time, and then you have a 7 season show with a 6 season War/Siege arc that only ends with the fleet in ruins and being given military escort back where they came from.

Its one thing to show up with a heavily armed warship to say hello, its another to sent an entire fleet to do so.


b30cfc (2) No.17668

>>10262

>star trek is best when it's Wrath of Khan

Well yes, but variety is the spice of life, and sometimes you just need to save the whales.


24f4b4 (4) No.17669>>17698 >>18098

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>>17188

It would be a Big Ass Burger.


149234 (1) No.17675>>17677 >>17683 >>17691 >>18323 >>18833

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>>9966 (OP)

>>10188

>>15353

>where is the movie???

Here you go, fucking faggots, your impossible-to-find moonburger movie.


d9c8d9 (1) No.17677>>17683

>>17675

that movie was legit better than TMP


cedef5 (8) No.17683

>>17675

WTF, it's only four minutes long? Calling it a movie heavily implies that it is a feature length film. I was expecting it to be around an hour long. This is a damned short film.

>>17677

Better than Jew Jew Trek.


f04fd1 (1) No.17691

>>17675

What sorcery did you perform to get those results? I ran regular search, five minute search, and year-long search, and never got a trace of Japanese burgers.


91da8e (1) No.17698

>>17669

Burger diaper.


24f4b4 (4) No.17789>>17848

Reminder to not interact with diaperfags, just filter them and report them for shitposting.


8c8fbd (1) No.17848>>18064

>>17789

Send them to the Obsidian Order for questioning. We need to find out where they are coming from.


e0b6e0 (4) No.18050>>18051

>>9976

>their traditional French ham sandwiches.

what a shame, croque-monsieur is good m8


38aba6 (4) No.18051

>>18050

<I like to eat crunchy men

>t. anon


24f4b4 (4) No.18064

>>17848

>We need to find out where they are coming from.

/tv/

Because /b/ is dead and /tv/ is neo-/b/ now.


c81ca1 (1) No.18076>>18087

>>10538

What about smaller, hologram piloted ships? SO all the crew stays on board. make all the ships the same design so they can take over any ship anywhere without discomfort and that sounds amazing.


819797 (3) No.18087

>>18076

At that point your ship is entirely computer controlled anyway, so why bother with holograms and not just making the ship directly controlled by the computer like a giant drone?


24f4b4 (4) No.18094>>18115

>>10246

>Star Trek is about slow, ponderous naval battles.

Please. The battles are usually over in a few hits and since TNG aired the ships have become quite fast. Have you not seen DS9? Voyager? Fights last at most 30 seconds before someone surrenders or flees. The only thing slow and ponderous was the ship movements in TNG, the battles were fast and short. Shields are always like 45% down in a single hit.


d7cda8 (1) No.18098>>18099 >>18109 >>18136 >>18190


cedef5 (8) No.18099

>>18098

I find this much sexier than I probably should.


1ee5fb (1) No.18109

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>>18098

Oh, for fuck's sake.


e0b6e0 (4) No.18111>>18151

>>10094

>Captain Tylor

Is it worth checking out?

I liked Gene from Outlaw Star


197c2b (2) No.18115>>18152

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>>18094

>slow and ponderous naval-metaphor battles

>over in a few hits

the two are not mutually exclusive

>since TNG aired, ships have become quite fast

intentionally, because the people in charge at that point hated the original concept and thought it was "bad for tv", meaning they thought using visually-exciting but stupid CGI action sequences would make for excellent prole-feed to make our autistic hearts beat Rick Berman's and Branon Braga's name and have the added benefit of attracting a broad casual audience. Ditto for bimbos in catsuits getting half the screen time (great in moderation, but…). They were wrong.

>Battles in DS9 and Voyager are short

because of editing for time. Rarely is this true strictly because of plot or pacing. It's just that once you come to believe every ship combat sequence has to show the ships flying around like fighter jets, then you cant follow the true Star Trek combat template which is to intersperse firing the "guns" and absorbing hits with sequences of the characters reacting and/or advancing the B-plot. Battles scenes in DS9, Voyager, Ent (authentic Trek in decline) are a combination of perfunctory and stupid.

>tng was fast and short, too

you're either a kid or stupid or both. By "fast" we're not referring to the editing and arrangement of the scenes. We're talking about the way ships actually work. You can have a battle sequence where not much happens externally visually and where the focus is on the characters and the ships individually (which are also characters in their own right) and also have that sequence be editing tightly and have it consume very little screen time overall. TNG did this consistently (because they had no choice) and only were able to begin to poz themselves with CGI later in the run. DS9 and Voyager went full blasphemy-tier with the CGI.


c2794e (1) No.18136

>>18098

I'll never look at a cheeseburger the same way ever again.


cedef5 (8) No.18151

>>18111

I'm one of the anons frm that convo and I stand by Irresponsible Captain Tylor being awesome. It hits the ground running. If you aren't laughing your ass of by the end of the first episode, I don't want to be your friend.


e03413 (3) No.18152>>18187 >>18457 >>18708 >>18739

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>>18115

>the two are not mutually exclusive

Neither is all the dicks in the universe and your mother's asshole.

>They were wrong.

I'd agree. But that doesn't make the ships not get faster as canon get churned out.

>because of editing for time

No. Because the ships are moving faster and the shots do massive damage. They're over quickly because weapons are too powerful and shields/hull are weak. Not editing. It's not a edit when a character says that one or two phaser hits reduces shields down by near-half.

>By "fast" we're not referring to the editing and arrangement of the scenes

Neither am I. Let me explain this so you under-fucking-stand:

Phasers.

Damage.

And.

Drain.

Shields.

Quickly.

So.

Fights.

Are.

Over.

Quickly.

As.

A.

Result.

Stop bringing up editing to ignore what's actually happening. Phaser nuke shields in a couple of hits. That happened in TOS, TNG, DS9; all of them. When a fight sequence lasts a minute it's not a slow and ponderous battle. The ships in TNG may move slow and ponderous, fine, but the battle is still happening in a quick time.


197c2b (2) No.18187>>18323 >>18407 >>18449

>>18152

please never post here again


e3e191 (1) No.18190

>>18098

>ass looks like it's been pounded a lot

Did she take a McFlurry?


b30cfc (2) No.18323

>>17675

>burger trek

Best Trek film of the past 20 years. Why isn't this shit stickied?

>>18187

>delete your account

How do you people even find this site?


170fe4 (1) No.18407>>18413

>>18187

>he has no argument

When you post pics of great men with the text "disdain for plebs" it's sure as fuck your duty to make sure you don't look like a pleb.


6741a7 (1) No.18413

>>18407

he says as he fucks-up greentexting


b1ec0e (1) No.18446

>>9974

post the scat video


e03413 (3) No.18449>>18457

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>>18187

>no argument

>delete your account


0a4718 (1) No.18457>>18461

>>18449

your initial comment got a response wherein it was explained why you are wrong. it's not clear why you feel you're entitled to a more detailed "argument" when you sperg out with obnoxious shit like this >>18152. In case you are still wondering why no one is taking you seriously, that's why.


e03413 (3) No.18461

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>>18457

>b-but I replied to you, you're not allowed to reply back!

>you're a sperg!

>i-i'm not going to reply to your counter-reply s-still

>that's why no one takes you seriously!

Brilliant piece, truly well performed. This play, Ode a la Shitposting, will be a masterwork for the ages.


819797 (3) No.18479>>18482

Not that want to get dragged into the shit flinging contest you guys are having, but consider this.

First time we see the borg, the show reveals that the Enterprise has FTL combat capability. That is, it can engage and fight other ships, while moving at warp speed.

We see this again in a latter episode when a civilian ship armed with feddie photon torpedoes engages 2 Cardassian warships while moving at warp speed. So not only is this something ships in Trek can do, its something even shitty low end civilian ships can do.

The enterprises sensors can also follow the details of the fight, from light years away with its own sensors.

As far as firepower goes, photon torpedoes are the equivalent of at least low end megaton yield nukes, and will only take a percentage off a ships shields.

In DS 9 when we see mass fleet combat, ships manoeuvre extensively during the battles and I remember seeing site claiming that full impulse speeds for the Voyager where around 0.25c and it does not take ships hours to reach those speeds. Hence, their ability to accelerate at STL speeds is easily high enough to turn their own crews to chunky salsa if the inertial stabilisers give out for even a fraction of a second.

These factors tell us how fast feddie ships are, how hard their weapons can hit, how tough their shields are and how manoeuvrable they are.

This also shows that the writers put little thought into the tactics of ship engagements, since you don't have to spend much time contemplating the advantages of engaging enemies while moving so fast nearly all their weapons are meaningless while being able to engage from light minutes to light hours away, while still being able to stay far enough away from said enemies to render any of their weapons but the ones with FTL capability, utterly harmless. Logic would dictate that most combat in trek aught to be fought at FTL speeds. A pitty the writers never seemed to grasp this.


e768c0 (2) No.18482>>18486

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>>18479

It really depends on how much weight you want to give to Berman & Braga era Trek vs. what was established during TOS and the TOS films. Early Trek established starship combat as essentially submarine warfare in space. TNG and DS9 began to deviate from this regularly and it seemed like that new generation of writers' first instinct was to push the pacing faster.

>Logic would dicatate…

Yeah, that's pretty much where it all falls-apart no matter which approach to ship combat you favor. Personally, I'm partial to the original conception, if for no other reason than its more amenable to character-work and plot nuance. Obviously, the notoriously thin Trek logic is inescapable if you stare too closely.


819797 (3) No.18486>>18513

>>18482

TOS era combat wasn't really submarine warfare outside of The Balance of Terror, where only the romulan warbird acted like a submarine.

It was more akin to capital ships at the Battle of Jutland, with the captain giving orders to fire the guns to the guys down in the turret engineering who do all the shooting once the guns are loaded charged.

This carries on through to the movies, where the battle between the ships in the second movie has more in common with two dueling battleships than it does with submarines, with some trek specific stuff thrown in, the shields, remembering that space is 3 dimensional and so on.

Submarine warfare after all, is all about avoiding detection while you sneak into position to fire a torpedo at an unsuspecting victim before sneaking off. This is not a style of combat we get very often in the show.


e768c0 (2) No.18513

>>18486

>subs metaphor vs. surface ship metaphor

elements of both to be sure. the writers almost always ignored the z-axis, but this is a problem of space sci-fi in general, not just Trek.


716787 (1) No.18547>>18557

Since this thread has devolved into /k/ tier autism about ship combat, anyone feel that the NX Enterprise was a lot tougher than most later Federation starships despite not having shields?


0c2d6d (1) No.18557

>>18547

You could handwave that away as all the weapons in that era being weaker as well. Somewhat ironically, the series that's supposed to be about Humanity in a more primitive, weaker state is also the series in which the writers finally realized that having the flagship go down in a couple stray volleys wasn't a very good idea.


cedef5 (8) No.18600>>18601

I've been craving a burger lately. McDonalds serves burgers all day now, right?


a17222 (7) No.18601>>18602

>>18600

I know you're the kind of faggot that posts on imageboards and all but even you should have more dignity than that, Anon.


cedef5 (8) No.18602>>18616 >>18657

>>18601

The good burgers available early in the morning are either too far away or allergic reaction inducing. Though now that I think of it, I could get to-go from denny's.

I still want to know the answer to my original question though. I thought I heard that while back, but I haven't been to McDonalds in ages.


6fb6b1 (1) No.18616>>18666

>>18602

Wait what is the best time to go for a Burger then?


8819d1 (1) No.18657>>18659 >>18677

>>18602

Hating on McDonald's is a meme. It started with the soylent left as a symbol of corporate evil, but continued with /pol/ since "MacDonoos" is exhibit-A in going full corporate retard, putting a nigger in charge as CEO, going "24/7 Black" during the Obama years, and then wondering why your business is in decline.

That said, it helps if you don't think of McDonald's burgers as burgers. They're more like chewy hamburger cookies to be enjoyed infrequently and tbqh they're very good for what they are. Furthermore, when you consider that they've changed the recipe dramatically over the years, it's impressive that the core menu items still more-or-less taste the same as they did decades ago, when this anon was a child (especially the fries - they completely changed from beef tallow to processed oil and didn't miss a beat). So many other fast food restaurants have altered their once-distinctive core items and suffered (Burger King, Little Caesar's pizza, etc don't taste quite the same anymore).

Not trying to meme McDonald's, since i'll take Wendy's for that because i've lurked moar, but the double-cheeseburger, big mac & fries, or bacon,egg, & cheese are still solid guilty pleasures. Just don't eat it more than once a year or you'll turn into a soy faggot and sabotage your gains.


38aba6 (4) No.18659>>18667

>>18657

>since i'll take Wendy's for that because i've lurked moar

Patrician-tier taste, anon As close as you can get with fucking fast food, anyways. I haven't lost perspective. Arby's is better than either if you don't mind variety when you're raising your cholesterol though


cedef5 (8) No.18666

>>18616

I just eat at weird times because I work the night shift. I'm ready for some dinner and a little strek around six in the morning when normal people want breakfast.


5a0165 (1) No.18667>>18670

>>18659

I don't eat at Arby's because I've never walked into one that didn't assault all the senses with filth. Seriously, I shouldn't be able to smell the bathrooms from the front door. There must be no corporate standards on cleanliness. The least gross Arby's I've ever been to was at a truck stop. The few times I could make it to the counter and order without just noping the fuck out of there I was unimpressed and didn't feel like I was missing anything. I still remember my disappointment with my first roast beef and cheddar. As a massive fan of both beef and cheese I was super hyped. I haven't even tried going to to Arby's in maybe a decade. Why should I gamble on a Longshot like that.


38aba6 (4) No.18670>>18676

>>18667

Maybe it's regional, I've never had an issue with cleanliness or service while there.


5363be (7) No.18676

>>18670

Can I get some good curly fries while serving in Starfleet?


a17222 (7) No.18677>>18684

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>>18657

>Hating on McDonald's is a meme

No it's not, you fat sack of heart failure.

It's terrible food

It tastes terrible

It smells terrible

It is terrible

That is not a meme. That is having taste buds, self-worth, and dignity.


e96d44 (2) No.18684>>18686 >>18689

>>18677

You can be and are wrong. The only reason people hate on McDonalds is because of that documentary "super size me." There is nothing special about their food that makes it more or less healthy than any other burger place. The mustache faggot that made that movie said he would release his food diary, but he won't do it because people cruched the numbers and found out he lied about how much he was eating. As for flavor, they've been perfecting their recipes for years. If someone says they don't like McDonalds it's because they're a fucking contrarian hipster piece of shit. Go back to sucking dick in a five guys bathroom.


a17222 (7) No.18686>>18687

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>>18684

>The only reason people hate on McDonalds is because of that documentary "super size me."

You're a fucking child who only thinks that because you too young to remember what life was like before 2000. Fuck off. It's always had a reputation of being shitty because it is shitty, you low-cultured hog.


cedef5 (8) No.18687>>18694 >>18705

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>>18686

>You're a fucking child who only thinks that because you too young to remember what life was like before 2000.

I remember the nineties well, doublenigger. I was born in the mid eighties. I remember Jack coming back and trying to convince my dad to get an antenna ball. McDonalds is a thoroughly competent hamburger. It's certainly better than Jack in the Box and Burger King. Wendy's is slightly better, and Whataburger and In-N-Out are the top tier of fast food. Most of the fast casual places like Five Guys, Shake Shack, etc are Wendy's tier, but priced considerably higher. Hipsters like you like to tell themselves they are getting a much better burger to justify the money they just spent.


5363be (7) No.18689>>18754

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>>18684

>There is nothing special about their food that makes it more or less healthy than any other burger place.

That doesn't make it not shit, you retard. Go shill somewhere else.


fa2b94 (3) No.18694>>18754

>>18687

>Most of the fast casual places like Five Guys, Shake Shack, etc are Wendy's tier, but priced considerably higher.

the only thing Five Gays is good for are the fries, which aren't complicated (because they're fries), but would be a moderate pain in the ass for most anons to prepare at home (cut fresh and deep-fried in peanut oil). However… and i'm not even being hyberbolic… you can make a better burger than five gays from wal-mart ingredients at home in less than an hour. Their buns are particularly egregious, as they are poor quality and nothing special. Their beef tastes like bog-standard ground 80/20. They appear to use basic bitch processsed American cheese.

I'm not knocking Five Gays flavor. It's an ok burger, but ok hamburgers are not hard to find or make yourself. Five Gays should be to Wendy's what Chipotle or Moe's is to Taco Bell, but it isn't and that's probably because the "fast casual" meme didn't solve any problems that fast food burgers had. In fact, it only made them less good. Burgers - like nachos - are easy to fuck-up by being a pretentious "foodie" faggot. You would think that steakhouse-style burgers would be delicious, but they're not. The reason is that they're too lean and they actually use beef that's too high quality (the scraps from steaks, if you're doing it right).

I've heard that the original Five Gays restaurants in the D.C. area are god-tier, but that's probably just localfag hipster bullshit. I'll take Wendy's if i want a fast food burger, but i'd rather risk food poisoning at Chipotle than fall for the "fast casual burger" meme.


a17222 (7) No.18705>>18708

>>18687

Then you're faggot from faggot family that fed your faggot ass faggot fastfood and now you have faggot tastes

>not liking mcshits makes you a hipster

So much faggotry crammed into one person. It'd be hilarious if it was so fucking pathetic.


fa2b94 (3) No.18708>>18715

>>18705

>tryhard

>oozes newness

>neurotic, bitchy writing style devoid of clever humor and easy-going keks

>literal salt shaker triggered by high-sodium fast food discussion because deprived of primary food source

>gets memed on

spotted the redditor from >>18152


a17222 (7) No.18715>>18716

>>18708

>fastfood fag thinking he can insult anyone and it'll mean anything

You're on the lowest rung of dietary society. Crusty homeless people eating crusty homeless ass are higher up that you. You're insults mean nothing, faggot.


5363be (7) No.18716>>18718

>>18715

This guy's right, being elitist about fast food is like being elitist about your scat fetish.


e96d44 (2) No.18718>>18720 >>18721

>>18716

he's the one being elitist.


a17222 (7) No.18720>>18723 >>18739

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>>18718

>fastfood is fucking shit

>elitist opinion

I reiterate; Lowest rung of dietary society.


5363be (7) No.18721

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fa2b94 (3) No.18723>>18724

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>>18720

>dietary society

you're a lolcow. no wonder you're triggered by a hamburger discussion.


5363be (7) No.18724>>18739

>>18723

You don't know what a lolcow is, faggot.


0e604a (2) No.18739>>18741 >>18763

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>>18724

Tell the other ID you're samefagging with here >>18720 and the one you had further back in the thread here >>18152 that the bullying will stop when the obvious newfag shitposting stops. You're a goldmine obnoxious stupidity and you're not fooling anyone. It's only going to get worse for you until you humble yourself and lurk.


5363be (7) No.18741>>18749

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>>18739

>oh boy, I better call him a samefag, that'll show him!


0e604a (2) No.18749

>>18741

newfag, samefag. your faggotry has many faces, so i dub thee multifag


38aba6 (4) No.18754>>18757

>>18689

>>18694

>They haven't been to Culver's


5363be (7) No.18757

>>18754

Culver's is top tier stuff, if I had to shovel shit into my mouth, that's the shit I'd pick. Their buns are great.


aa0fcb (1) No.18758

Any Britfags remember Wimpy?


a17222 (7) No.18763

>>18739

>everyone I disagree with is one person!

>being this paranoid


bc6e9b (1) No.18789>>18810 >>18920

quality thread deserves quality banner. bravo, strek. posted one to the banner thread.


884c8f (1) No.18810

>>18789

May your gains be swole this year.


eab6e6 (1) No.18833>>18857 >>18920

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>17675

there appear to be seek issues with that webm that rewrapping doesnt fix. sauce doesnt show up using english search terms anymore and original youtube posted by trekmovie returns as "unavailable". It's still available by going full weeb with search or manually typing in the link from anons screencap


f8c637 (1) No.18857>>18920

>>18833

Do you think we could get a translation group to translate it for us?


9a9890 (1) No.18920>>18922

>>18789

We should setup a restaurant chain of Swoleburgers

>>18833

>>18857

I don't think we got any nips on this board since most nips like JewJew Trek and don't know of anything else.


cedef5 (8) No.18922

>>18920

You don't need nips for a translation group, just weebs. We just need to aporoach one of the established groups and ask them what it would take to get our little short film translated.

pic unrelated


51853d (1) No.20103

bump


e0b6e0 (4) No.20111

>>10175

I loved Planetes.

Space Brothers has so many fucking episodes, I got about 14 eps in and decided I didn't care anymore.

Right now I'm watching Irresponsible Captain Tylor because MB recommenced it, and I usually respect his opinion.

Outlaw Star is fun.


e0b6e0 (4) No.20113>>20116 >>20120

>>17513

why are the yeomen always women? what do they yeo?


5002f3 (1) No.20116

>>20113

The yeomen is basically the ship's secretary. Why do you think?


b3f905 (1) No.20120

>>20113

I misread that yaoiman and I just felt sick coming to my mouth thinking of the YaoiTrek art out there.




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