921d4c No.9591
Is TAS canon? Should it be?
921d4c No.9592
Also, what was Spock doing with a dildo in his quarters?
921d4c No.9595
Man, "Mudd's Passion" is fanservice: the episode.
921d4c No.9597
>>9595
At least there were a couple of clips suitable for WebMs (I can't bring myself to clip M'Ress coming onto Scotty, though).
4d30b3 No.9607
49fa17 No.9644
>>9591
Uhura with one eye on the camera one eye on the captain.
97166a No.9682
>>9644
The animation quality of TAS was utter shit. Everything else about it was good. It had good writing and decent voice acting, but the animation was fucking fucked. The wrong character's lips move, they'll use any excuse to have the speaking character be offscreen. It's sad.
a3be1b No.9699
>>9591
>Is TAS canon?
Roddenberry made it non-canon
"According to Voyages of Imagination, the Animated Series was officially removed from canon at Gene Roddenberry's request in 1988, with the exception of some parts involving Spock's youth, from Fontana's episode "Yesteryear". This had already been confirmed previously by reference book author Mike Okuda in the introductions of his works. (Star Trek Chronology, 2nd ed, p. vii; Star Trek Encyclopedia, 4th ed, Vol. 1, introduction; [11](X)) Paramount Pictures has followed suit by elevating the request to policy, having officially declared the series non-canon. (Star Trek Encyclopedia, 1994, p. iii)"
97166a No.9722
>>9699
I feel like we just had this thread a few days ago. While you are correct that it is technically not canon, the writers used it as a reference. Several facts that technically became canon later were taken from it. For instance, Spock's mother Amanda Grayson was created for TAS and is Spock's canon mother.
5fbb42 No.9723
>>9722
>For instance, Spock's mother Amanda Grayson was created for TAS and is Spock's canon mother
Um, she's in TOS. You ever see "Journey to Babel" anon?
921d4c No.9726
It seems to me that after TAS was decanonized, it sort of became cool in a hipster sort of way for scriptwriters to include references to it. So it basically reentered canon that way.
0e8097 No.9736
tos made a lot of references to things which were not considered canon, really.
such as vulcan having been conquered.
f73f66 No.9760
I'm disappointed that they didn't do more animated series, because it would have allowed them to more easily make things weirder and more alien. I always felt like the way they talked about some species compared to the way they were displayed didn't always mesh. Klingons in my head seemed like they should be hulking space orkz with a samurai streak to them. So fucking huge and intimidating that the reason Worf was so special was specifically because he was so physically imposing that it would make him stand out moreso than any other alien species with crap on their heads.
df8fb8 No.9777
>>9682
So was pretty much every other western cartoon from that era, at least the ones made for television. Hanna-Barbera had their hands in everything, they even reused some TAS backgrounds for He Man. It didn't stop some of it from being good though
97166a No.9783
>>9723
It was her maiden name 'Grayson' specifically which is first established in TAS.
d60300 No.9805
>>9591
>canon
There is no canon in Star Trek, how can there be? None of TOS makes sense at all, the entire thing is based on inconsitencies and plot-holes.
5fbb42 No.9836
>>9783
But the statement that she herself was a TAS creation, which is quite clearly not accurate. For what it's worth it was grandfathered into the fifth film, and in general there was always a backstage understanding that the Yesteryear episode there that appears was the only firmly "in-canon" episode of TAS, with Gene himself having that view.
97166a No.9849
>>9836
Yes. I made a mistake and corrected it. What more do you want? Can't we just get beyond thunderdome?
d11ef8 No.9946
Magic in star trek makes perfect sense. Provided your somewhere thought becomes reality. thats not a unrealistic premise.
f70ea0 No.10366
Ok, i guess No one else is going to say it.
Life support belts are the shit, and would come in so fucking handy on ds9
d52786 No.10369
>>10366
unfortunately a lot of practical future tech would require more special effects.
hell even in TAS they had a hard time animating that life support field provided by the belts.
07b22a No.10370
I've watched a few episodes, and the animation and voicework is just awful. Some episodes remind me of ST:D because at 20 minutes in length, the plot has to progress at breakneck speed, and we're expected to accept the highly improbable with only a sentence or two of pseudo-explanation.
9e1aa8 No.10371
This thread needs more Kzinti.
d52786 No.10372
>>10371
lead animator was colorblind or something, so a ton of things in the show including tribbles were inexplicably pink.
and yea, however anyone feels about the stories, the animation was REALLY bad. like, low budget scooby doo bad.
07b22a No.10373
>>10371
I thought "The Slaver Weapon" was an interesting episode, not for the actual events that took place, but for its worldbuilding.
The NX-01 Enterprise had artificial gravity, so does that mean a Slaver stasis box was found before then? Or did another species, like the Vulcans, find one and share the technology?
I can see why Manny Coto and others wanted to use the Kzinti in Enterprise season 5, if a war was supposed to have been fought around then. Perhaps the Kzinti allied with the Romulans during the Earth-Romulan War?
8e3a1c No.10468
Ari Bn Bem the Pandronian colony creature (Episode: 'Bem') is 100% prime canon. I can't watch or hear Bem without my sides entering orbit
8e3a1c No.10469
TAS is great, obviously it was the weakest ST up until around a month ago, but fuck, if you can learn to appreciate budget cel animation and every third character being voiced by James Doohan, this series is really thoroughly enjoyable - even if half the reason you're enjoying it is because of its hilariously limited execution… it still blows STD out of the water
8e3a1c No.10470
>>9760
>would have allowed them to more easily make things weirder and more alien
100% on that one, animation is an incredibly fertile medium, there's no limit to what can be portrayed (the only limits come from funding or whatever other external imposition on the production). ST/sci-fi as a whole is also incredibly fertile so the two can go hand in hand. Trek probably could've had some great successes in animation series if they'd had the funding and right people on board
d52786 No.10471
>>10470
on the one hand, animation can be a lot cheaper than special effects when it comes to representing alien visuals or impossible camera perspectives.
on the other otoh animation tends to be pretty expensive all on it's own. comic books would be a nice alternative, but only the dregs write for comics and otherwise no one takes the medium seriously.
cae228 No.10475
Would a 100% CG Star Trek be better? Entire alien cities can be created, the entire ship of the Enterprise could be used instead of a few key sets, stranger creatures can be represented on screen, etc.
69b345 No.10478
>>10470
bump for incredible fertility
c82f09 No.10479
>>10475
>Would a 100% CG Star Trek be better?
9372e8 No.10480
>>10475
Any budget big enough to have it look good would ensure another STD level of poz and faggotry and just plain ol' bad writing. A low budget would mean that they couldn't hire writers or artists talented enough to make it as good as it could be.
9e1aa8 No.10485
>>10373
The Slavers remind me somewhat of the Iconians. A really old and advanced species that went extinct and no one really knows anything about them.
47c173 No.10515
>>10468
That episode has a couple of funny one-liners (Kirk suggesting Spock try a Vulcan nerve pinch on nothing, Kirk saying sometimes he wishes he were a librarian). Wish I could make some WebMs of it.
69b345 No.10518
>>10515
>Wish I could make some WebMs of it.
you can, anon. /strek/ believes in you.
47c173 No.10532
>>10518
My WebMConverter doesn't, though. It gives me an error, saying it can't index the audio correctly for that episode.
165cbe No.10544
>>9595
God I miss that old music score so much.
6f8b6d No.10547
Kirk takes a trip to the centre of the galaxy and discovers Lucifer. Then he takes another trip to the centre of the galaxy and discovers God, but it's actually the Devil.
It's like poetry, they rhyme .
47c173 No.10552
>>10547
Apparently, Kirk and co. were supposed to meet God at the center of the galaxy in "The Magicks of Megas-Tu", but the censors wouldn't allow that on a Saturday morning cartoon show. But meeting the devil was A-ok.
d03e23 No.10554
>>10373
>>10485
I'm sort of surprised that the ST rightsholders and Larry Niven didn't have some kind of blowup along the way, especially since both ST and Known Space share OC.
d52786 No.10556
>>10532
making webms has been a pain in the ass for me.
https://video.online-convert.com/convert-to-webm
this is the only thing I have that works, but I gotta make sure to make small clips as wmvs before I even try uploading them there.
01ae5b No.10557
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>10554
Niven wrote the script for "The Slaver Weapon"
Its because of reluctance to licence the Kzinti that they haven't been used since. And why both Starfleet battles and STO have added cat races under other laywer friendly names.
9e1aa8 No.10579
To continue talking about the Kzinti. We see one in the Time Trap without the space suit. Looks like he could use a bit of a shave. Dude looks way too fluffy to be intimidating. Also some Kukulkan.
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47c173 No.10683
English is the Universal Language.
47c173 No.10685
"The Counter-Clock Incident" makes very little sense. Do we just ignore that the Enterprise was apparently roaming around the Delta Quadrant in the TOS era?
2adcd8 No.10686
>>10683
>English is the Universal Language.
That practically is true, even today. While French and Chinese are "officially" used for trade and/or politics (More so the former than the latter), English is used on a public and commercial basis (And is the "official language" when dealing with air traffic). Hell, just look at how much Japanese exclusive media use English words or phrases in their secluded culture.
>>10685
>Do we just ignore that the Enterprise was apparently roaming around the Delta Quadrant in the TOS era?
IIRC, wasn't the entire incident a fluke?
47c173 No.10687
>>10686
>IIRC, wasn't the entire incident a fluke?
Pretty much–the Enterprise gets pulled through a supernova when a (reverse) supernova is also occurring there in the negative universe. In the clip, they show a map of the Milky Way, and the supernova appears to be on the opposite side of the galaxy from Earth, which seems inconsistent with canon.
143c3a No.11129
>>10372
>lead animator was colorblind or something, so a ton of things in the show including tribbles were inexplicably pink.
let's be real for a second here; it looks better this way
98a6b6 No.11131
>>10552
Jews don’t like God being on tv.
f93e5b No.11142
>>9592
beating off to vulcan on human porn, as he inherited that fetish from his dad
5cb5bb No.11220
>>11131
To Jews Satan is God
e0a095 No.11265
>>11220
>Enemy is God
What?
5cb5bb No.11311
>>11265
Your power level is weak.
0d185a No.15466
Debating whether to watch this series after I gather up the guts to finish TOS Season 3.
e4fde3 No.15475
WHY ARE ALL THEIR EYEBALLS THE SAME COLOUR AS THEIR SKIN???
7d7de8 No.15481
>>15475
Because white scleras cost more money.
306b08 No.17044
How long till they reboot TAS?
a39708 No.17072
They should have made a live action TAS instead of STD. With today's makeup and prosthetics we could make a really hot cat girl. Trek needs more furries
e59df0 No.18195
>>17072
STD is live action TAS but worse in every way