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Is TAS canon? Should it be?
▶ 921d4c (5) No.9592>>9607 >>11142
Also, what was Spock doing with a dildo in his quarters?
▶ 921d4c (5) No.9595>>9597 >>10544
Man, "Mudd's Passion" is fanservice: the episode.
▶ 921d4c (5) No.9597
>>9595
At least there were a couple of clips suitable for WebMs (I can't bring myself to clip M'Ress coming onto Scotty, though).
▶ 4d30b3 (1) No.9607
▶ 49fa17 (1) No.9644>>9682
>>9591 (OP)
Uhura with one eye on the camera one eye on the captain.
▶ 97166a (4) No.9682>>9777
>>9644
The animation quality of TAS was utter shit. Everything else about it was good. It had good writing and decent voice acting, but the animation was fucking fucked. The wrong character's lips move, they'll use any excuse to have the speaking character be offscreen. It's sad.
▶ a3be1b (1) No.9699>>9722
>>9591 (OP)
>Is TAS canon?
Roddenberry made it non-canon
"According to Voyages of Imagination, the Animated Series was officially removed from canon at Gene Roddenberry's request in 1988, with the exception of some parts involving Spock's youth, from Fontana's episode "Yesteryear". This had already been confirmed previously by reference book author Mike Okuda in the introductions of his works. (Star Trek Chronology, 2nd ed, p. vii; Star Trek Encyclopedia, 4th ed, Vol. 1, introduction; [11](X)) Paramount Pictures has followed suit by elevating the request to policy, having officially declared the series non-canon. (Star Trek Encyclopedia, 1994, p. iii)"
▶ 97166a (4) No.9722>>9723
>>9699
I feel like we just had this thread a few days ago. While you are correct that it is technically not canon, the writers used it as a reference. Several facts that technically became canon later were taken from it. For instance, Spock's mother Amanda Grayson was created for TAS and is Spock's canon mother.
▶ 5fbb42 (2) No.9723>>9783
>>9722
>For instance, Spock's mother Amanda Grayson was created for TAS and is Spock's canon mother
Um, she's in TOS. You ever see "Journey to Babel" anon?
▶ 921d4c (5) No.9726
It seems to me that after TAS was decanonized, it sort of became cool in a hipster sort of way for scriptwriters to include references to it. So it basically reentered canon that way.
▶ 0e8097 (1) No.9736
tos made a lot of references to things which were not considered canon, really.
such as vulcan having been conquered.
▶ f73f66 (1) No.9760>>10470
I'm disappointed that they didn't do more animated series, because it would have allowed them to more easily make things weirder and more alien. I always felt like the way they talked about some species compared to the way they were displayed didn't always mesh. Klingons in my head seemed like they should be hulking space orkz with a samurai streak to them. So fucking huge and intimidating that the reason Worf was so special was specifically because he was so physically imposing that it would make him stand out moreso than any other alien species with crap on their heads.
▶ df8fb8 (1) No.9777
>>9682
So was pretty much every other western cartoon from that era, at least the ones made for television. Hanna-Barbera had their hands in everything, they even reused some TAS backgrounds for He Man. It didn't stop some of it from being good though
▶ 97166a (4) No.9783>>9836
>>9723
It was her maiden name 'Grayson' specifically which is first established in TAS.
▶ d60300 (1) No.9805
>>9591 (OP)
>canon
There is no canon in Star Trek, how can there be? None of TOS makes sense at all, the entire thing is based on inconsitencies and plot-holes.
▶ 5fbb42 (2) No.9836>>9849
>>9783
But the statement that she herself was a TAS creation, which is quite clearly not accurate. For what it's worth it was grandfathered into the fifth film, and in general there was always a backstage understanding that the Yesteryear episode there that appears was the only firmly "in-canon" episode of TAS, with Gene himself having that view.
▶ 97166a (4) No.9849
>>9836
Yes. I made a mistake and corrected it. What more do you want? Can't we just get beyond thunderdome?
▶ d11ef8 (1) No.9946
Magic in star trek makes perfect sense. Provided your somewhere thought becomes reality. thats not a unrealistic premise.
▶ f70ea0 (1) No.10366>>10369
Ok, i guess No one else is going to say it.
Life support belts are the shit, and would come in so fucking handy on ds9
▶ d52786 (4) No.10369
>>10366
unfortunately a lot of practical future tech would require more special effects.
hell even in TAS they had a hard time animating that life support field provided by the belts.
▶ 07b22a (2) No.10370
I've watched a few episodes, and the animation and voicework is just awful. Some episodes remind me of ST:D because at 20 minutes in length, the plot has to progress at breakneck speed, and we're expected to accept the highly improbable with only a sentence or two of pseudo-explanation.
▶ 9e1aa8 (3) No.10371>>10372 >>10373
This thread needs more Kzinti.
▶ d52786 (4) No.10372>>11129
>>10371
lead animator was colorblind or something, so a ton of things in the show including tribbles were inexplicably pink.
and yea, however anyone feels about the stories, the animation was REALLY bad. like, low budget scooby doo bad.
▶ 07b22a (2) No.10373>>10485 >>10554
>>10371
I thought "The Slaver Weapon" was an interesting episode, not for the actual events that took place, but for its worldbuilding.
The NX-01 Enterprise had artificial gravity, so does that mean a Slaver stasis box was found before then? Or did another species, like the Vulcans, find one and share the technology?
I can see why Manny Coto and others wanted to use the Kzinti in Enterprise season 5, if a war was supposed to have been fought around then. Perhaps the Kzinti allied with the Romulans during the Earth-Romulan War?
▶ 8e3a1c (3) No.10468>>10515
Ari Bn Bem the Pandronian colony creature (Episode: 'Bem') is 100% prime canon. I can't watch or hear Bem without my sides entering orbit
▶ 8e3a1c (3) No.10469
TAS is great, obviously it was the weakest ST up until around a month ago, but fuck, if you can learn to appreciate budget cel animation and every third character being voiced by James Doohan, this series is really thoroughly enjoyable - even if half the reason you're enjoying it is because of its hilariously limited execution… it still blows STD out of the water
▶ 8e3a1c (3) No.10470>>10471 >>10478
>>9760
>would have allowed them to more easily make things weirder and more alien
100% on that one, animation is an incredibly fertile medium, there's no limit to what can be portrayed (the only limits come from funding or whatever other external imposition on the production). ST/sci-fi as a whole is also incredibly fertile so the two can go hand in hand. Trek probably could've had some great successes in animation series if they'd had the funding and right people on board
▶ d52786 (4) No.10471
>>10470
on the one hand, animation can be a lot cheaper than special effects when it comes to representing alien visuals or impossible camera perspectives.
on the other otoh animation tends to be pretty expensive all on it's own. comic books would be a nice alternative, but only the dregs write for comics and otherwise no one takes the medium seriously.
▶ cae228 (1) No.10475>>10479 >>10480
Would a 100% CG Star Trek be better? Entire alien cities can be created, the entire ship of the Enterprise could be used instead of a few key sets, stranger creatures can be represented on screen, etc.
▶ 69b345 (2) No.10478
>>10470
bump for incredible fertility
▶ c82f09 (1) No.10479
>>10475
>Would a 100% CG Star Trek be better?
▶ 9372e8 (1) No.10480
>>10475
Any budget big enough to have it look good would ensure another STD level of poz and faggotry and just plain ol' bad writing. A low budget would mean that they couldn't hire writers or artists talented enough to make it as good as it could be.
▶ 9e1aa8 (3) No.10485>>10554
>>10373
The Slavers remind me somewhat of the Iconians. A really old and advanced species that went extinct and no one really knows anything about them.
▶ 47c173 (7) No.10515>>10518
>>10468
That episode has a couple of funny one-liners (Kirk suggesting Spock try a Vulcan nerve pinch on nothing, Kirk saying sometimes he wishes he were a librarian). Wish I could make some WebMs of it.
▶ 69b345 (2) No.10518>>10532
>>10515
>Wish I could make some WebMs of it.
you can, anon. /strek/ believes in you.
▶ 47c173 (7) No.10532>>10556 >>10628
>>10518
My WebMConverter doesn't, though. It gives me an error, saying it can't index the audio correctly for that episode.
▶ 165cbe (1) No.10544
>>9595
God I miss that old music score so much.
▶ 6f8b6d (1) No.10547>>10552
Kirk takes a trip to the centre of the galaxy and discovers Lucifer. Then he takes another trip to the centre of the galaxy and discovers God, but it's actually the Devil.
It's like poetry, they rhyme .
▶ 47c173 (7) No.10552>>11131
>>10547
Apparently, Kirk and co. were supposed to meet God at the center of the galaxy in "The Magicks of Megas-Tu", but the censors wouldn't allow that on a Saturday morning cartoon show. But meeting the devil was A-ok.
▶ d03e23 (1) No.10554>>10557
>>10373
>>10485
I'm sort of surprised that the ST rightsholders and Larry Niven didn't have some kind of blowup along the way, especially since both ST and Known Space share OC.
▶ d52786 (4) No.10556>>10628
>>10532
making webms has been a pain in the ass for me.
https://video.online-convert.com/convert-to-webm
this is the only thing I have that works, but I gotta make sure to make small clips as wmvs before I even try uploading them there.
▶ 01ae5b (1) No.10557
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>10554
Niven wrote the script for "The Slaver Weapon"
Its because of reluctance to licence the Kzinti that they haven't been used since. And why both Starfleet battles and STO have added cat races under other laywer friendly names.
▶ 9e1aa8 (3) No.10579>>10583
To continue talking about the Kzinti. We see one in the Time Trap without the space suit. Looks like he could use a bit of a shave. Dude looks way too fluffy to be intimidating. Also some Kukulkan.
▶ 079cd9 (2) No.10628>>10629
▶ 079cd9 (2) No.10629
▶ 47c173 (7) No.10683>>10686
English is the Universal Language.
▶ 47c173 (7) No.10685>>10686
"The Counter-Clock Incident" makes very little sense. Do we just ignore that the Enterprise was apparently roaming around the Delta Quadrant in the TOS era?
▶ 2adcd8 (1) No.10686>>10687
>>10683
>English is the Universal Language.
That practically is true, even today. While French and Chinese are "officially" used for trade and/or politics (More so the former than the latter), English is used on a public and commercial basis (And is the "official language" when dealing with air traffic). Hell, just look at how much Japanese exclusive media use English words or phrases in their secluded culture.
>>10685
>Do we just ignore that the Enterprise was apparently roaming around the Delta Quadrant in the TOS era?
IIRC, wasn't the entire incident a fluke?
▶ 47c173 (7) No.10687
>>10686
>IIRC, wasn't the entire incident a fluke?
Pretty much--the Enterprise gets pulled through a supernova when a (reverse) supernova is also occurring there in the negative universe. In the clip, they show a map of the Milky Way, and the supernova appears to be on the opposite side of the galaxy from Earth, which seems inconsistent with canon.
▶ 143c3a (1) No.11129
>>10372
>lead animator was colorblind or something, so a ton of things in the show including tribbles were inexplicably pink.
let's be real for a second here; it looks better this way
▶ 98a6b6 (1) No.11131>>11220
>>10552
Jews don’t like God being on tv.
▶ f93e5b (1) No.11142
>>9592
beating off to vulcan on human porn, as he inherited that fetish from his dad
▶ 5cb5bb (2) No.11220>>11265
>>11131
To Jews Satan is God
▶ e0a095 (1) No.11265>>11311
>>11220
>Enemy is God
What?
▶ 5cb5bb (2) No.11311
>>11265
Your power level is weak.
▶ 0d185a (1) No.15466
Debating whether to watch this series after I gather up the guts to finish TOS Season 3.
▶ e4fde3 (1) No.15475>>15481
WHY ARE ALL THEIR EYEBALLS THE SAME COLOUR AS THEIR SKIN???
▶ 7d7de8 (1) No.15481
>>15475
Because white scleras cost more money.
▶ 306b08 (1) No.17044
How long till they reboot TAS?
▶ a39708 (1) No.17072>>17073 >>18195
They should have made a live action TAS instead of STD. With today's makeup and prosthetics we could make a really hot cat girl. Trek needs more furries
▶ e59df0 (1) No.18195
>>17072
STD is live action TAS but worse in every way