/strek/ - Star Trek ★

Have we invited /suicide/ over for this one? I feel like we should.

i've got nothing better to do, but i still don't feel like watching some niggress go on about how whitey is oppressing her and the poor defenseless romulans

I'm going to watch it when it goes online on a pirate site. I ain't paying for their service.

>>7551

First ep is on CBS for free. All you have to do is turn in the TV.

>>7554

They do it (((for free)))

I have Goyflix but I'll download it.

It sounds so fucking bad I'm debating hiding threads on it.

>>7557

No Brother they expect one of us in the wreckage

Although jokes aside I recommend this board goes to REEEEEE Alert.

>>7558

H-have we started the fire?

>>7561

Yes Brother, the Trek Rises!

>>7552

More precisely, he assumed that fans would pay for it regardless of how much of a fuck you to them it was.

To beat this challenge, all we have to do is pirate it instead of paying for it.

>>7548 (OP)

No. If I wanted TumblrTrek, I'd just browse tumblr.

>>7565

Piracy doesn't hurt sales.

>>7554

>TV

look I'm going to need a way to see this on a computer

>>7572

Question is when is the time? Might be out of the bracket for anons not in Burgerstan

>>7578

Well, I assume the world premiere will be at 8:30 PM EDT (-4 UTC) so there won't be all access streams or torrents before that time, and if you wait for the latter to appear add another hour or two.

>>7581

No doubt it will have be a burger to set it up.

>>7587

if your on linux you can probably use streamlink

https://streamlink.github.io/index.html

to pump the stream to VLC, and then use VLC to stream it, if you have fast internet, want to do it directly and expose your ip address, which is a lot of if's.

>>7605

i'd bet CBS is going to have the dmca kike's all over this one. i wouldn't try to pirate this via torrent barebacking your ip, unless you want a bad goy letter from your isp.

>>7604

Are they trying to get people fired up about the show thats starting or put them to sleep before they see how bad it is?

>>7604

It's like whoever composed it wanted to get people nostalgic about TOS while at the same time thinking the actual TOS theme was too silly.

>>7604

shamelessly ripping off Westworld. Even plebbit is unimpressed.

>>7623

/tv/ is the designated shitting board for a reason.

>>7623

Make it so.

>>7548 (OP)

I'm just waiting till its on Netflix or I see the first episode on torrent, what ever comes first, am I fuck paying for (((CBS Access))) or even using that shit.

>>7623

i'm already not considering std star trek or cannon in any way. it's a spinoff star trek themed show, that's it. it's no more cannon that battle star galactica is

>>7634

>Orville discussion is allowed

>Star Wars is allowed

>ST:D is wordfiltered and deleted

This would be kinda funny

>>7635

Best thing ever to happen.

So who's streaming this trainwreck?

>>7646

STD is the best way to kill Trek :^)

>>7647

>>7640

>tfw nobody streams it

the only ones paying for all access are sjw's who know nothing about star trek or only watched j.j. trek movies

Well if nobody is going to setup our own stream, there is a trek channel active from the fags at 420chan, they "might" have a stream later on tonight, we can at least all talk trek and agree it's a trainwreck.

https://cytu.be/r/1701

>>7649

>Install userscript for Jewgle

Yeah no.

>>7653

>>Install userscript for Jewgle

>Yeah no.

I agree with your instinct and questioned it myself. I looked over the glimpsed over the source code and it looked innocuous enough to my untrained eye. Uploaded to https://pastebin.com/8gWExZAN

>>7655

looks fine to me too but it's retarded. either support google drive shit or not. this is them being lazy.

>>7552

>Nope. Captain Malfoy dared the fans not to watch, challenge accepted.

Why are all the nu-shit series and movies still following the hostile marketing bullshit of antagonizing potential viewers, virtue signalling before the shit even launches.

I'm in no hurry to watch any of it.

>>7658

It's all they have.

I just added it to my Sickrage queue. I might watch it, I might not. All the poz that surrounds it makes me not want to, but at the same time, it's the first new Trek in a while. And I've seen all the episodes of TOS, TNG, DS9, and VOY only watched ENT once - few good episode, but is by and large shit so many times that I practically know them all by heart.

>>7640

a bunch of faggots in here.. dunno if it's actually going to stream

https://www.brettygood.com/

Streaming at https://cytu.be/r/1701

The opening was stupid as fuck. Crew members walk a big "Star Trek" arrow head so ship can find them.

>>7663

More pressingly:

>prime directive says we cannot intervene on this planet

>sends captain and first officer down to planet, to walk right through town they mustn't be seen by, fire gun into well, then land entire ship a few minutes walk from town.

These guys are stealthy like fucking ninja's

I'm gonna just hide this thread now. You guys have fun or some shit. I'll come back if/when it crashes and burns.

>>7662

watching here now, it's fucking terrible

This fucking captain, ok, so there are still chinks in the 23rd century, but can they not fucking bother learning a standard English dialect before entering Starfleet?

>>7668

this is the worst show ever created, not just star trek, this is the single worst sci-fi show ever

welp, that's it for the 1st episode 2nd is behind paywall,

it's worse than everyone feared.

So then.

Why did the klingon ship that's not supposed to have cloaking devices for a few more decades, uncloak in front of the federation ship, turn on its high beams and just sit there for the entire episode calling for help, without doing anything else?

What the fuck could they possibly be trying to achieve by doing this?

>>7668

how do you get to be a captain and just spend all of your time taking shit from a lieutenant.

the camera hurt my eyes far too much, i couldn't watch another episode of that even if the characters were passable.

Why is every single shot at a dutch angle?

Why won't these characters stop bitching at each other?

This is not as bad as I thought it would be, but I laughed out loud at the SUBTLE racial messages.

>>7672

the fan base will be 100% sjw's, trannies, furries, pretty much the most degenerate creatures imaginable. and i guarantee you none of them have seen a single episode of any other series. at best they've watched the jj trek films.

damn what a fucking abortion this shit is. the acting is terrible even without the sjw message. fake drama, terrible acting, constantly rotating camera, lens flare everywhere, zero respect to any semblance of cannon, what an absolute embarrassment.

sjw's will defend this though, the bots and sjw's are already doing it on their hashtag

twitter.com/hashtag/StarTrekDiscovery>>7672

>The first fucking thing that happens in the first battle in the show is someone's console explodes in his face

They don't have a single original idea

>>7675

they weren't subtle at all. based white admiral shutting down strong independent non-emotional emotional weak negro vulcan was the highlight of the episode, and probably the entire series

>>7672

not to mention that their beacon was able to be seen across the quadrant within 10 minutes.

Towards the end I was wondering why the fuck everyone was leaving the bridge all the time to have fucking powder breaks during a situation where everyone should be at stations. The dialogue was so AWFUL. Sarek and the female leads were so fucking soul crushing to watch.

The other people I was with basically said the sets look worse than TOS shit, one of them said he thought the fucking lens flare all over the place was worse than an Abrams Trek.

>>7683

>As a WOC

That sounds racist. :^)

I'm stuck doing something right now so I can't watch along with you guys yet. What's happened so far?

>>7687

it's already over. the first episode was nothing but cat fighting between chink and negro (negro literally mutinies), captain ching chong literally can't speak english, it's not even acting. blah blah blah, they carelessly putz around a klingon burial site, and episode one cuts right as negro is trying to destroy the burial site during a mutiny and captain chong is pointing a phaser at her and the klingons show up. episode two where hopefully the klingons kill every single member of that pozzed crew is behind a paywall.

>>7688

that and the entire episode is filmed with the camera at a 45 degree angle and more lensflare than jj trek.

>>7683

YAAAAAAAAS

>>7684

Don't forget that every single member of the Klingon High Council happened to be aboard ships and all less than five minutes away from the beacon. And then they all decided to pledge their loyalty to this guy they just met for no reason.

The Federation also had a dozen ships there within five minutes even though this is supposed to be right on the edge of federation space.

>>7688

Damn, I'm sorry I missed it. I will make sure to watch it and take responsibility.

>>7675

Klingons confirmed for cucked civnats

>>7671

>this show

>spawning a fanbase

I wouldn't worry

>>7688

Episode 2 ends with Commander Sass receiving a life sentence. It will be fun to see how she was actually right about everything, especially since it doesn't look like the retarded plan she was willing to mutiny over would have worked anyway. Also Captain Ching Chong is dead. Apparently beaming a team of two stronk women -- the two highest ranking officers – onto an enemy vessel for a capture mission wasn't such a hot idea. Whoops, spoiler alert.

Holy shit, why did they make the worst fucking actor the lead.

>>7692

make sure you drink a 36 pack first

>>7693

they should have pulled adama out of retirement from bsg to be capt. i could have dealt with that diversity. adama would have blown commander sass out of the airlock immediatly.

Anyone know if the Klingons were actually speaking Klingon? or was it just gibberish? I find it hard to believe the writers/producers etc would care enough to bother.

>>7679

That was the joke.

>>7683

These people are far worse than the first two episodes themselves. I expected it to be really, really bad, and so far, it's only as bad as the first JJ Trek movie.

>>7698

>and so far, it's only as bad as the first JJ Trek movie.

That still sounds like shit.

>>7693

>Apparently beaming a team of two stronk women -- the two highest ranking officers – onto an enemy vessel for a capture mission wasn't such a hot idea.

Were they at least security officers, or are they just loud and stronk and sheeeit.

>>7698

>so far, it's only as bad as the first JJ Trek movie

It's at least a little worse. So far it's basically JJ Trek with Nu Kirk played by a black woman and therefore better than Kirk even though she seems to be screwing everything up worse.

>>7698

>These people are far worse than the first two episodes themselves.

Wait for all these first episode viewers praising WOC to find out chinktin dies at end of second episode, and fucking white male takes over.

>>7699

>Were they at least security officers, or are they just loud and stronk and sheeeit.

It's Captain Eggroll and Commander M. Sue. It seemed retarded on its face for those two, of all people, to go over there, with basically no plan, but I figured it would work and that was just a plot conceit. Putting commanding officers at needless risk is old hat in Trek. Then the captain dies and it comes across as legendary stupidity.

>>7701

das racis/sexist x 50,000. cbs is killing themselves here. you cannot pander to the sjw. they're pissing off the average white person, and will inevitably piss off the sjw's who will turn against them immediatly, and strong independent welfare women won't buy the access pass just for this garbage show.

Someone streamed episode 2, here's a rundown for those who didn't see it:

>Captain chink puts negress in the brig

>Chink hails the klingons, says "we come in peace"

>Klingons immediately open fire

>Everyone shoots shitty pew-pew lasers at each other that look and sound like the guns from Futurama

>Klingons are winning, but admiral whiteguy gets them to agree to a ceasefire

>Klingons then ram a cloaked ship into whiteguy's ship and he blows up, but the ceasefire remains somehow

>Meanwhile negress logics the computer into letting her out of the brig after Sarek used his katra to make a long-distance psychic phonecall

>They notice the Klingons are gathering their dead

>Chink goes full vietkong and hides a photon torpedo in one of the corpses which blows a hole in the klingon ship

>Negress then convinces her that the best course of action is for the two of them to beam over to the klingon ship alone and try to capture the boss klingon

>Chink also doesn't seem to mind that negress is no longer in the brig, I dunno.

>Surprisingly, two stronk womyn can't take on a whole ship full of klingons by themselves

>Chink dies, negress kills boss klingon and makes him a martyr, fucking everything up

>They then abandon the chink's ship and negress gets life in prison for mutiny and general incompetence

>Except the previews show that they give her a job on the Discovery instead

>>7703

i think i'm going to rewatch enterprise to do the same, and re-discover how great it really was compared to nu-trek

>>7706

that'll be on episode 3. they're going to make every episode a cliff hanger to try to force people to keep watching it. it's going to be one long shitty arc, which hopefully will not be funded into season 2.

>>7604

At least it's better than Enterprise.

>>7704

>but I figured it would work and that was just a plot conceit. Putting commanding officers at needless risk is old hat in Trek.

That is true, Geordi getting kidnapped by the Pakleds episode in TNG was funny if you think about it and I'm sure there are other examples. But at least most of those things you can go along with it if the story and characters are engaging and such.

This nu shit might not have any of that so the seams start to really stick out.

>>7709

Shit, I forgot about that. They get a massive hole blown through four decks and then the tall science alien says "shields are at 47% and holding". It's retarded.

>>7710

kill yourself

i wonder how many people actually signed up for all access after this abortion.

I'd love to see someone ask

exec: okay guys! how many more subscribers did we get from star trek diversity tonight! big numbers!

underling: 62

>>7712

if you want to consider STO cannon, and it's more cannon than diversity is, then shields don't block 100% of damage, it's 90-95%.

>>7714

You know what? I quit STO due to the end of the revamped Iconian storyline. This was worse than that storyline. That at least felt like a bad season of Trek, this is just complete fucking trash. It's unwatchable.

So anyways, after watching the first episode, I'm surprised with the fact that I don't hate the negress as much as I thought I would. Still, I'll probably drop the show soon enough.

>>7713

Need I remind you?

Weren't the klingons in this era supposed to be human looking due to that one ENT episode with the klingons trying to make super soldiers? It was meant to explain why TOS klingons looked human.

>>7719

That bothered me more than almost anything else. And all the Klingon House heads looked like that, too.

>>7719

Is STD part of the nu-canon or is it a prequel to TOS?

>>7722

>Is STD part of the nu-canon or is it a prequel to TOS?

https://www.inverse.com/article/35835-star-trek-discover-beyond-into-darkness-jj-abrams-reboots

The rights to the tv and film elements is all fubar at this point.

STD is considered canon in the TOS universe. It takes place around TOS because the black chick is Spocks sister.

>>7724

Adopted sister, right?

Right?

>>7727

>Rambo films made for Indian market

Holy shit, that's real. How much song and dance will be between each kill?

>>7729

how about "copyright expires on creator's death", also we kill all the jews.

ITT: illiterate faggots who must learn the word "canon" before posting again.

>>7730

no complaints from me, anon, but it really requires both those things

>>7730

There used to be a somewhat reasonable extended period after the creators death, but thanks to Disney lawyers that extension got raised further, to make sure Disney copyright will never go public domain or expire in practice.

>>7734

> Disney lawyers that extension got raised further, to make sure Disney copyright will never go public domain or expire in practice

They don't want uncensored remasters from the vaults of private collectors of their racist past slathered all over social media.

It's action schlock wearing a Star Trek skin.

It's way less "Star Trek" than the JJ movies. I have a hard time seeing anything that is actually star trekky about Discovery besides the token visual element.

>>7724

STD is not canon to anything, it's a standalone reboot.

I wonder how the Trek wiki is gonna spin this…

>>7736

That might cross their mind, but a bigger concern for them might be actual copyright for characters and "IP"s and how it relates to their process of branding and churning out their products. I'm not a lawyer so this is just shitposting in an Ainu pottery forum. In theory the extension they got is not forever. In practice, it's pretty much forever since they can afford to have the lawyers and lobbies to keep it in perpetuity.

It's funny since apart from mickey, many of their characters are adapted from public domain.

>>7738

>It's way less "Star Trek" than the JJ movies.

That is some sort of fucked up achievement if they managed that.

>>7718

IT'S BEEN A LOONG TIME

GETTIN FROM THERE TO HERE

IT'S BEEN A LOONG TIME

BUT MY TIME IS FIIINALLY HERE

i cry a little every time

>>7726

Yep. Wait until they show how she's smarter than Spock. She's the Rey/iRebel of nuTrek.

>>7747

yet she still can't manage to stay out of jail and follow orders

>>7750

Heh.

>>7752

I thought Flynt was busy installing the BIOS, helping the cyberpolice fighting the evil danknet, and protecting the earth from orbital moon rock attacks.

>>7760

here's the embed. I realize that mp4 is unwatchable. apologies

>>7760

I doubt that Paramount isn't going to release another film soon. Jew Jew himself confirmed that a fourth film is in production, and judging from the reactions here to STD, it sounds like most people would probably prefer seeing another movie over a series if the series are gonna be like this. Beyond was just released at a bad time and was a followup to a baffling, terrible movie.

Honestly, I don't know nearly enough about this sort of thing, but that's probably for the best. The machinations of (((Hollywood))) will never cease to befuddle.

>>7761

You just made me think of this.

>>7752

>Johnny boy likes Yeoh playing a mulatto Asian.

Aaaannnd ruined. Although I hope he fucking rages when Yeoh gets killed.

I feel out of fairness I should mention the one thing I did like about STD.

For once the Klingons actually spoke Klingon too each other.

>>7761

>Why did that Klingon end his speech in English?

He's just repeating the (((Federations))) second favorite phrase when they begin aggressively expanding right next to your border. Probably so they'll recognize when they're due for some diversity.

>>7752

>If it's just to be preachy and #woke as fuck…okay, you did it, but that's blowing a lot of the studio's money just to virtue signal.

never underestimate a leftist's desire to virtue signal. even if the price is torpedoing your own company and having your own effort ultimately backfire.

As much as I want to be a contrarian and root for the Klingons, I don't really think I'm up for going through more of that, even pirated. Maybe when they actually get on the Discovery the show will change enough to have a bit of a Trek slant to it, but I'm not holding my breath.

>>7778

One of the ME videos said that shit after the fourth episode was redone due to…well, the stuff tonight. To be honest even if that is true, and it was reported as rumor, I doubt that is going to be anything more than rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic. Noone is going to follow this shit over to All Access; it might be better for non-US viewers on Netflix but then that fucks with domestic. It's dead Jim.

>>7776

I think all of us here are well aware of that, but I really have to question the sanity of the higher-ups who let their underlings keep pulling this shit. For example, the dumpster fire that is Marvel Comics today. Why are they still allowed to pull """""talent""""" from Tumblr to "draw" and "write" their abortions that aren't even fit to be called comics when sales are tanking hard? Or STD, why did nobody step in and say "uh, y'know, nobody's gonna want to watch a Star Trek series that's so fucking on the nose with its political commentary" and find another script, any other script to produce instead?

I get that it's like a pathological need for these people to show just how pure and righteous they are to hide the fact that they're absolutely hideous inside, but there's got to be some businessmen in these companies somewhere that would be able to say "yeah, no, we kinda need to make money here." In the case of STD, if they literally just did it to keep the rights, then I guess they just don't care.

One of these days, there's gonna be a major earthquake on the San Andreas fault, and it's gonna wreck San Fran and LA, and I won't shed a single goddamn tear. Let it all burn.

>>7779

I vaguely recall that, although wasn't it for stuff after episode 6? You're right though, Sexually Transmitted Diversity isn't going to fly. Maybe if Netflix had the rights to stream it in the US, but there's no way anyone will watch it now.

>>7683

>i should put out several torrents for it with virus's.

>>7785

>don't really do this. :(

Yeah, a virus is being a bit of a dick to normalfags, what we really want is to be a dick to CBS. We need to doctor the episodes with subtle changes and then seed the torrents and hope the pass as off as genuine.

It's hard to do in a reasonable time frame because torrents are literally available as soon as the show hits the streaming service. I don't know much about ripping from streaming services, but I suppose there's a way to snatch the entire episode without having to rip-it in real-time, so it can be encoded and packed and uploaded about the time the episode finishes airing.

>>7787

>We need to doctor the episodes with subtle changes and then seed the torrents and hope the pass as off as genuine.

maybe just when the klingons show up, splice in a few select lines from something more enjoyable and appropriate.

>>7787

>We need to doctor the episodes with subtle changes and then seed the torrents and hope the pass as off as genuine.

/pol/trek Recovery?

>>7786

Weren't they changing a lot of movies for China anyways? Plus the original uncut movies always get pirated in China anyways.

You also forgot alot of the Chinese in China hates the SJW shit and niggers. They shrunk down the nigger on the poster of The Force Awakens for example. The Chinese in the other countries influenced by liberal propaganda are the ones who go SJW.

>>7781

I think it's a mixture of things:

1) the people in charge are willing to lose money to virtue signal. At some level this is the case. The NFL and its reaction to Trump is proof that these guys are all true believers.

2) the costs of production are so low it still makes some money. I can't imagine the average tumblrite comic book writer is paid more than $40k. If it makes say, 20% of its total cost back as profit, and you have several hundred titles, you could start to make a little money there.

3) the prospect of some future windfall. I think businesses concluded that whites are dying off and they want to appeal to minorities. There's also the allure of getting girls to buy your product. Businesses can invest in shit with no return for decades before they smarten up, and my guess is they are always willing to ditch their current audience on the belief they can strike it rich with the 'new' demographic.

>>7756

>I thought Flynt was busy installing the BIOS, helping the cyberpolice fighting the evil danknet, and protecting the earth from orbital moon rock attacks.

What happened to his political campaign?

>>7752

>why was this made?

Because CBS didn't have to pay for it. Netflix paid for the whole thing in advance. So there was no financial risk.

The look of the show was made to appeal to nuTrek fans of the JJ movies, hence all the lens flares and shit.

The executives figured "muh diversity" would draw in the regressive leftists and generate more word of mouth about the show, and that the old trek fans would buy it no matter how bad it is.

The show was made to be the lead show for CBS All Access the way GoT is for HBO's streaming services, hence why it won't be aired on TV. Supposedly the show will be on netflix for non-burgers.

The production became a train wreck, and the studio went into damage control mode. Which only served to make everything somehow even worse than it already was.

I'm going to pirate the episode and try to count the lens flares. I may or may not try to upload a cut version with all of the lens flares.

>>7761

>Aren't [the klingons] all suppose to be human lookalikes due to the augmentation virus

This is the only thing you seem to be somewhat wrong about. Although I think this does take place after Enterprise and before the original series, even in the time of Enterprise not all Klingons got the virus. It was just a (relatively small) portion of the population. Plus, the doctor who made it happen said he'd go into cranial ridge reconstruction surgery, so I mean, maybe he just got to work and fixed the ones you see. I don't know, it's tough to even give them the benefit of the doubt on that one with all this redesign trash.

So no, not all Klingons. Maybe not even enough to be mad about it. But, maybe not and they're just fags. Hard to say.

I fell asleep early last night is there anywhere I can catch a rebroadcast of this?

>>7797

>What is this series supposed to be about? That's what you need in an opening and this is just bad.

I know people hated the ENT opening but I feel like it suited the show, it gave a sense of adventure, the idea that no one can stop humanity now, "see that star system? You can go there" t. admiral todd howard.

>>7800

lol

…and the subtitles should be written the way she pronounced the words.

Also I don't know if the klingon translation is hardcoded but it would be nice to replace it with the bix nood copypasta.

>>7793

He might still be running for office.

>>7794

>The show was made to be the lead show for CBS All Access the way GoT is for HBO's streaming services, hence why it won't be aired on TV. Supposedly the show will be on netflix for non-burgers.

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Say what you will about GoT shit, but at least HBO has other shit in it's roster to get normalfags numbers interested. The fuck does CBS have that people will want to buy into their streaming services?

>>7706

>"We're explorers, not soldiers."

Ahh, man. This is so bad.

>Spock's adopted sister Michael Burnham

They're really doing it… they're inserting shit OC into this.

>>7709

Captain asks about shields and Saru says they're at max and holding. Thing is during the fight they show ships getting hit and taking hull damage, yet the shields are up somehow.

>>7802

Know my pain.

https://mega.nz/#!9SpAyLTa!AEXd_QDd-bqGbaspHntu5wCo2jEAPLFGhnsIPB5fvlU

https://mega.nz/#!hO4xgA7S!ABO7LQAICQpqIFIoM_EjuAB93yQAAjQdao3UmzPuOb8

>>7797

There was an episode of TNG where Picard was taken over by an alien, admitted it, but they still couldn't relieve him of duty.

The Doomsday Machine has Spock deal with a deranged Commodore and in spite of Decker's obvious emotional strain, Spock still has to go to great lengths to have him relieved of duty.

Discovery? Fuck it, neck pinch and I'm in charge now.

Okay any anon brave enough to sum up entirely all the shit that went on? I cannot bring myself to watch the show.

>>7808

>I never do get why you'd risk sending over the senior command when Voyager set up a 'Hazard Team,' specially designed for this sort of thing.

…or they could've done a small retcon and have a squad of MACO onboard every starship.

>>7812

literally the current stardate

>>7786

>>7791

i was just going to say that. is this even allowed in china? i wouldn't be surprised if they outright banned it due to nogs and diversity and degeneracy and i'm sure there's going to be lots of fag enabling

>>7812

ya i'm not even pirating it now. fuck all this nog and the kike producers they can all die in the fire that is this show.

>>7815

(((tomatometer)))

>>7812

Someone explain this 'take a knee' stuff to me. I don't get it.

>>7819

>Someone explain this 'take a knee' stuff to me. I don't get it.

Over black privileged individuals employed by sports leagues think it is work ethically acceptable to damage their employer's reputation and cash flow to promote their political ideology while neglecting the fact that any other non-black athletic privileged individual would be shitcanned from their job in a heartbeat.

>>7819

american nigs kneel instead of standing for the national anthem in a show of treason and disrespect towards the country and flag.

>>7821

>>7822

I kind of figured it was something like that. Thanks.

>>7818

>"boldly led by the charismatic Sonequa Martin-Green"

ｃｈａｒｉｓｍａｔｉｃ ａｓ ｈｅｌｌ

So what I learned from episode 2 is that when you say 'We come in peace' to NuKlingons it triggers them so much that they put behind decades of conflict, and try to destroy you.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/25/arts/television/star-trek-discovery-episode-1-recap.html

>“Discovery” has the best opening credit sequence of any of the series."

Shilling this hard, though the Trek series openings is a pretty low-bar.

>Given the budget and advances in CGI, this is clearly the most visually stunning “Star Trek” pilot.

Yo', we heard you like lens flare dawg, so we added lens flare to your lens flare.

>We don’t learn too much about the crew itself here --- one of the many departures from typical “Trek” pilots — but both Philippa and Commander Saru (Doug Jones), give commanding performances with limited material.

You guys could understand chinktin without a universal translator?

>>7828

#fakenews

>>7830

>#fakenews

http://nerdist.com/star-trek-discoverys-opening-credits/

>"STAR TREK: DISCOVERY’S OPENING SEQUENCE IS A WORK OF ART"

>Instead of the countless star fields and an infinite cosmos, Jeff Russo’s main theme is played over a series of sketches and designs that look like they could have been rendered by some of the masters of the Renaissance. There’s even a very overt reference to Michelangelo’s “The Creation of Adam” near the end of the credits. More importantly, the opening even incorporates notes from Alexander Courage’s original Star Trek theme, which gives the piece its most hopeful moments.

I… just, …

>>7831

they've completely polarized the fan base, all leftists will support it, all trump supports/nazis/white supremacists will hate it, but all you'll see are leftists on social media and news because they run the news and social media banned all the trump supporters

>>7831

and if you don't like it your obviously a racist sexist pig, which is why no journalist is going to talk shit on it or they'll loose their job.

>>7812

Wew. Is there anything remaining they can virtue signal over?

>>7739

According to this the series is canon.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2017/08/02/whats-canon-and-whats-not-in-star-trek-discovery

>>7835

*based* on cannon, this show isn't cannon and never will be.

"Added Kurtzman: "The writers room is a group of people with very different relationships to social media and to canon, and so it's a constant debate about where the line is in terms of canon violation. … In that debate, there's a kind of supreme court of debate that allows us to stay true to canon and also stretch the boundaries of it."

"The show has been made by people who are trying to protect that legacy," said Kurtzman."

so it's 19 non-binary people of color or hebrews and 1 white guy that maybe watched an episode of enterprise 10 years ago.

>>7835

>According to this the series is canon.

Which canon, prime or alternate? Namely how CBS and Paramount split up the rights to the Trek universe, Paramount had to create it's own unique and distinct visual interpretation of the universe for its reboot movies. This show is drawing from the visual style of the JJ universe, and begging for a crossover with it's current big screen counterparts if the show would to become popular, time leap a few years and put both on track for a big screen crossover. Setting up lead to be Spock's sister, is Zachary Quinto's Spock going to show up in the show as a guest star?

>>7836

>The writers room is a group of people with very different relationships to social media

What the fuck does that have to do with writing a TV show?

>>7838

it means they're catering to tarquesha and goldsteinberg on twitter

>>7836

>>7837

>This shouldn't come as much of a surprise, but Star Trek: Discovery exists in the same universe as Star Trek: The Original Series, and isn't connected to J.J. Abrams' rebooted Star Trek films.

>>7841

When did "person of color" become a thing? Minorities hate "colored people" but are fine with this?

>>7841

>Muh nonwhites

>Muh special effects

>Muh bechedel test

Wow, they really can't find anything of substance to praise. None of them are saying anything about plot or writing, and nothing about characters beyond what race they are. The SJWs will get bored of this show as soon as they find something else to virtue signal about, and STD will lose the only praise it has.

>>7841

>pic 2

>"telling the story through the 1st officer's eyes, fresh"

How is that fresh? It would've been bold to tell a story from the engineer's perspective, someone who never gets to see the spectacle from the bridge.

>pic 3

>"you want a good Trek show? This isn't for you, go away, the franchise is ours now"

Vidya, sci-fi, comics… I think we're starting to get used to it.

>>7842

It's even worse for the other ethnicities like asians, indians etc. because when people say "people of color" they mean black, nothing else.

>>7840

http://screenrant.com/star-trek-discovery-prime-kevin-timeline/

>As for why J.J. Abrams and his filmmaking team created the alternate Kelvin timeline to begin with, the answers to that can be found in the confusing real world issue of who owns of the rights to Star Trek: Paramount is the wholesale owner of the Star Trek property; Paramount in turn was owned by the Viacom corporation, which also owned CBS.

>However, in order to make any new Star Trek movies or television series, Paramount has to license the rights to Star Trek from CBS. This is what happened when J.J. Abrams and his production company, Bad Robot, embarked upon making his Star Trek film; Paramount and Bad Robot licensed the rights to create an alternate Star Trek copyright from CBS, in part to enable Abrams’ desire for his film to be about a younger version of Kirk and Spock, which would radically change established canon.

>Like Abrams’ Star Trek films, Star Trek: Discovery was made under Bad Robot’s license of Star Trek from CBS. Bad Robot and Paramount wanted to continue their license to produce more Star Trek outside of the increasingly expensive feature films. CBS is happy to use Star Trek: Discovery as a means to promote CBS All-Access, but Paramount and Bad Robot own the series, the production costs of which were largely financed by Netflix, which paid an exorbitant amount for the rights to distribute Discovery internationally.

>However, it’s because Paramount and Bad Robot own Discovery, not CBS, which owns the Prime timeline Star Trek, that there was doubt among skeptical Trekkers about Discovery‘s producers’ long-held claim that Discovery is set in the Prime universe and will synch up with the established Prime timeline canon. As a prequel, Discovery can claim that it begins in the Prime universe (as J.J. Abrams’ first Star Trek did for the first few minutes), but does the series remain in the Prime timeline?

>>7846

The real answer is that it's effectively a soft reboot because they will be applying as much artistic license as they care to

>>7805

welp, fukkit. I intended to see it for myself anyway. can never be sure how bad something is until you see it for yourself.

>very first thing we see: SPACE DRUMPFLER, A WHOLE SPECIES OF THEM

>the most evil words of all are "we come in peace" alright I officially like the klingons here

>next scene is exactly what you should never ever do in the written word, ever, LET ALONE THE START OF YOUR NEW STAR TREK FUCKIN TV SHOW

>massive word salad infodump laden with technobabble, directed to the one person who should above all know this as well if not better than you

>it's fucking atrocious, you never ever do this, the show has shot itself in the foot right out of the gate

>holy sweet mother of fuck the acting is bad

I am going to finish watching this episode, if only to properly understand exactly how inept this new show is. this makes a night in sickbay look competent by comparison.

>>7851

>this makes a night in sickbay look competent by comparison

this makes every single episode of every season of every series gold by comparison. this makes enterprise's xindi arc look like creative genius by comparison. this makes an entire series of watching a single cow take a shit throughout the course of it's life quality entertainment by comparison.

>>7851

commander n word flies into a radiation field so she can take a picture of some bullshit, and there is some countdown to the moment it kills her. as if radiation is very punctual like that, as long as she returns to the ship in 19 minutes 59 seconds, she won't need to undergo hours of intense surgery to save her life or anything. it's retarded, but worst of all is that it's sloppy drama. this shit is lazy as fuck.

not to mention their most advanced scanning equipment can't seem to properly detect the object, but the captain's antique telescope can? fuck you, sexually transmitted diversity.

>>7853

suddenly the klingons care about their dead bodies?

I thought the body was just considered a shell, and when dead it was empty? now suddenly there is an insane amount of ceremony around burying one?

I get the feeling the people behind this show weren't really fans of star trek. gee, why didn't they make a totally different show with a different name? oh that's right, if it wasn't called star trek, no one would ever watch it. too bad for them I am watching a pirated copy then.

>>7851

>next scene is exactly what you should never ever do in the written word, ever, LET ALONE THE START OF YOUR NEW STAR TREK FUCKIN TV SHOW

Remind me what that was again please? I deleted the episode.

>>7855

well it was the next line, but it was that infodump about "this alien species is going to die out because blah blah blah plot radiation from a mining operation so we need to do something without violating the prime directive."

and then they violate the prime directive, too. but it's such a wordmash right up front, to the fucking captain, who should not be on the surface of this planet without at least already knowing everything that her commander is saying to her. it's not conversational, it's not even well worded.

>>7856

its' designed to make cmd sassy negro look smart by using lots of big words, seeing niglet cmd sassy negro getting pwned and racis vulcan child tests was one of the highlights of the episode.

The whole fucking cast took a knee in protest of Trump. Fucking Google it or something.

>>7831

>like they could have been rendered by some of the masters of the Renaissance

I'm willing to bet $50 that the CG models used for the equipment shown in the intro are the same CG models used for the process of building the same items as props. They probably had nothing in mind for the intro, so they pulled the models out of solidworks, put them into Maya and made that sequence.

>>7853

>detect the object

This is what kills me, if the jamming being done is on visual frequencies it should look like a blob to anyone observing it with their eyeballs. The ship's cameras (they call them optical sensors, but they are obviously cameras) are interpreting the same light that your eye is using. The only way such jamming could work is if all their electronics were being tampered with, which they are not.

also the technical term is "negress"

>>7785

>what the fuck, that was the only way I was gonna bother trying to watch the show

Well that's too bad since CBS explicitly denied Netflix domestic distribution because muh CBS All Access. Even plebs that legit liked it have to a person said they are probably done with it due to it based on that by itself; maybe a handful have been saying they'll just snipe it after its done like some people do with GOT/HBO subs, but CBS needs metrics NOW to know where they are going to go with it.

>>7858

Fuck, I should have just posted this.

https://archive.fo/HC6zB

I did enjoy that at the end of the second episode, they throw her in prison. actually makes me want to see the next episode.

>>7862

I'm not angry, in fact I give even less of a shit about this show than I did before I watched it. I guess my suspicions that it would suck have been confirmed and now I'm ready to move on and forget it ever happened.

>>7863

Why get excited when she'll be out to shit up things more by Ep 3 or 4?

>>7865

I saw on RoTo that like 1/4 the number of people were talking about this show rather than the Orville which some people weren't high on either. I think the vast amount of people out there do not give a shit about it.

american military traitors don't get life in prison.

commander basketball american gets "reduced in rank" and then gets a life sentence? she should be dishonorably discharged and then maybe 10 years in prison.

>>7866

the preview makes it clear that in episode 3 she will already be serving under a cis white male. I can already hear her cunt being ripped, a week in advance.

altho I could be wrong about his "gender." they might drop some tranny bombshell on us, just in case they hadn't chased off anyone who might possibly want to watch more of this show.

>>7867

mutiny is the death penalty in the united states, navy hasn't executed anyone for 150 years though, army executed a bunch of people for treason in ww2.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_individuals_executed_by_the_United_States_military

My brother is posting a bunch to this thread from his computer in the other room, so I bet my ID will show up as the same as his.

We both watched the first two episodes though, sucked pretty much. I liked that commander black broad gets thrown in prison TWICE those people just can't stay out of prison haha you know what I'm saying know what I mean? But she at least faced consequences for all the dumb shit she pulled in the whole first two episodes. She belongs in prison, and if the third episode is like "yo man she's too cool for prison" then I might cash out there, but if she has to continue facing consequences for her bad actions and mistakes, it could be interesting, sort of, maybe, and the show might later become good, giant question mark?

When it comes to Trek, sometimes you have to give it a long chance, or cash out early and come back later. TNG's first two seasons were fucking torture, and I wanted to love Voyager (I wanted a show I could keep up with regularly and be excited and look forward to) but by the time their entire ship was captured by fucking bird people who don't even have warp drive, I was done. Especially when they spent a fucking CLIFFHANGER CONCLUSION fiddling around on a volcano planet having really boring sub-fanfic comic book ewok adventures with cavemen, you had to wait like 5 months to find out that happened. I wanted the entire Voyager crew to die by that point, and I still do technically, but a few years ago I watched some of the later Voyager episodes and there's some good ones at least, mostly involving the Doctor. Chocolate Day and Harry Kim only got one good episode and they had to share it and it was an alternate future that didn't count. But at least there were some good episodes in later Voyager.

There's not much of an excuse these days to fuck up the way this show just did. DS9 started off with a great premiere and it only got better and better as the show went on. The new Battlestar Galactica had a good strong start, whatever mistakes they made in that show at least the opening managed to attain interest. There's no reason to not have a good start for your TV show. Instead it's like "we made footsteps in the shape of the Starfleet insignia in the sand while we violate the Prime Directive, ain't we cute?" and then 20 minutes of story stretched out over 42 minutes.

imo their biggest misstep is the name of the main character. in their furor to court the bix nood demo, the one group of people who will snigger the hardest at a girl named michael are black people.

>>7870

>>7871

Just suck each other's dicks for fuck's sake.

>>7871

the biggest mistake aside from being a total sjw virtue signalling shitshow is cbs all access. i have a hard time believing any bix noods are forking out $10/mo for this and even the sjw's are whining about it on twitter, saying they won't pay.

>>7871

biggest misstep as far as marketing to a new audience I meant to say. they want to burn fans of the real thing and bring in people who had no interest, but the only group of people who never watched star trek before and might want to watch this are gonna be laughing and wtfing at michael burn em. old school trek fans will loathe the terrible writing, fans of the new movies would rather watch big bang theory, sjws don't consume any of the media they demand to change, and n persons think science and diplomacy is for dem gay sissy homos and whites/slants.

but yea, the cbs streaming service is probably the actual biggest misstep. I'm not paying another bill to watch overpaid faggots disrespect the country that gives them tens of millions of dollars to throw a ball around.

>>7870

NuBSG had a very strong start, it just stopped being worth watching around the halfway point of the series. I will disagree with you with DS9, early DS9 is way worse than early TNG; early TNG is bad but you can toss popcorn at without much trouble, and there's some gems in there all the same. There's gems in DS9 early too, but for a while it's deadly boring for the most part. Later on it picks up steam but it wasn't a fast process. Voyager was interesting starting out and then just fucking died though, so I don't mind it being the other way around.

>>7853

>as if radiation is very punctual like that, as long as she returns to the ship in 19 minutes 59 seconds, she won't need to undergo hours of intense surgery to save her life or anything.

To be fair it's not the first time Trek has done that sort of thing.

>>7860

>Well that's too bad since CBS explicitly denied Netflix domestic distribution because muh CBS All Access.

Which is a retardedly out of touch decision. The numbers of normalfaggots who are cutting cable tv are increasing, and if they replace it with streaming it's going to be (((netflix))) along with jewtube. At most they're going to add on only 1 more paid streaming service.

That's likely not going to be CBS all access.

>>7883

It IS on Netflix overseas…there is a chance that it might become more popular in Europe than in the US because of it, but I don't think CBS will want to give ammo to Netflix since they are the ones ultimately financing the show and not the people who own the IPs, and Netflix is platinum mad over the situation. CBS just wants their streamshit to take off despite everyone hating the CBS lineup, and Paramount wants to retain their movie rights so they can make one more JJ film in case they somehow find enough money under the sofa to pay for their electric bills at the end of the month.

>>7885

Except there's not much of a market for niggers in europe. We got muslims instead and they mostly watch middle eastern channels if they watch tv. A black lead won't get them any special interest in europe.

>>7885

>It IS on Netflix overseas…there is a chance that it might become more popular in Europe than in the US because of it,

There is a chance sure, just how much of a chance remains to be seen at the moment. Though I will say that I've seen the MSM where I'm at right now syrupstan is desperately shilling for it.

>CBS just wants their streamshit to take off despite everyone hating the CBS lineup,

Yep, and CBS is nuts if they think STD will be the show that makes people go subscribe to their shitstream.

>>7890

Fucking kek.

>>7890

>We got muslims instead

The plot twist is they killed chinktin for white male muslim convert.

>>7863

The Asiaface captain is dead and commander WeWuzVulcanz is in jail.

#StarTrekSoWoke

>>7895

I mean, the (((show runners))) have mentioned that the show will have a visual continuity that blends into TOS. That's bullshit, of course. I don't think it can, but I'm just wondering if they intend to morph Mike Burn'Em's prison jumpsuit into the TOS shirts somehow. Like she's so super duper amazing and saves the day so much that Starfleet honors her by making her outfit the official uniform.

>>7894

>Just like this current NFL bullshit with kneeling, they want attendance to drop so they can build it back up with whatever the want their new audience to be and point to improving numbers instead of dropping numbers.

Except that type of socjus economic and business plan always crash and burns, because it relies on a nebulous and utopian hope of "we need to destroy it to re-build it better bigger stronger faster, for The People". It always just winds up just destroying, never rebuilding whatever it is social justice wants to improve.

If CBS wants the #woke audience, that shit is looking fucked already if even the sjws don't want to buy into the paywall. Other examples in other markets point to the same pattern. Catering to the loud but non paying SJW markets makes profits go up in flames.

Yeah no, the previews make Enterprise look good.

Shieet, I pressed the reply button too fast like a spaz.

>>7894

>Honestly, I don't think the writers understand what shields are in Star Trek.

I have doubts that the writers for STD understands Star Trek in general.

>Will all of starfleet have to dress like jailbirds in solidarity?

#Handsuphaserdown

>>7897

>have a visual continuity that blends into TOS

I just had the costume chart handy, I ran across it earlier today. I don't see the show jumping back into TOS Constitution class sets any more than I do the uniforms. They are copying the JJ Trek styling regardless of whether it's in the Kelvin or the Prime timeline. It's a soft reboot as another anon put it.

When was this show meant to be set? 20 years before Kirk?

Cause the Constitution Class was actually in service in the 2240's.

>>7897

> the show will have a visual continuity that blends into TOS

<The uniforms that look nothing like TOS uniforms

<Their consoles are all modern touch screens and shit, completely unlike TOS.

<Their ships have poor lighting, unlike TOS.

<Their ships weapons are little pew pew cannons like nuTrek, not beams like TOS

<They don't bother with a viewscreen like TOS had.

I don't see it outside their pistols.

>>7903

Ten years before TOS. It's actually two years after the original pilot, so Spock should be in Star Fleet at this point too.

>>7895

>that uniform

What a gaudy, over-designed piece of shit. The boots alone, with their tacky little insignia buckles, make it impossible to take seriously.

It also rustles me that they're using the TMP/TNG Starfleet insignia, especially since this is ostensibly supposed to be set in the prime continuity. The arrow insignia was specific to the Enterprise and wasn't adopted as the universal Starfleet emblem until after TOS. During TOS (and presumably pre-TOS) each ship had its own uniform emblem.

>>7894

>Either way, I don't think what Hollywood is doing is meant to fit any one particular ideological agenda.

How can you possibly think that? The evidence is overwhelming. Fuck, they explicitly state it.

>>7914

it looks like they ripped this shit straight out of Star Trek Online. They probably used the same fucking model files.

>>7919

>Star Wars making Fin a bumbling inept retard instead of a chocolate Marty Stu is but one example

Which was an accident. Finn was supposed to be a bumbling white guy but then JJ went even more poz so it wound up making a black guy look like a buffoon.

You are attributing to forebearance what is caused by ineptness. Take Gul Dukat. He was written always as a villain, but they made the inadvertent decision that he would always act like he was a hero. The result was a character who developed a fanbase which triggered the writers into making him a caricature. Disney has stated they are making a concerted effort to make the Empire less attractive.

These are miserable, hateful people who are willing to lose money in order to advance their 'hate whites' agenda. Kathleen Kennedy's major goal with Star Wars is to 'take' it 'from' white males for women. Star Trek - with Ciscovery - is little better.

>>7914

>>7915

These ships look like assets from a last-gen console game.

Everything about this show is surprisingly inept. It's like Mass Effect: Down Syndromeda all over again- I wholly expected it to be repugnant on an ideological level, but I never would have anticipated it being so technically incompetent as well.

I'm 10 minutes in and my biggest gripe so far are these god awful uniforms. It just looks like more generic JJ-trek trash. Instead of having rank clearly shown with stripes on the cuffs or contrasting pips on the collar, they decided to put them on badges with the exact same colour and no outline.

Why would they design a uniform that makes identifying rank impossible if you're more than 5 feet away or in low light, but take the time to put stupid fucking insignia embellishments along the sides and on the boots? What purpose do they serve? Why do they need Starfleet branding all over their service uniforms? Are the dress uniforms just covered in arrowhead insignias?

>>7927

And now they're doing a "this is your captain speaking" joke as though plane flight is still relevant when they have instant teleportation.

>>7927

The minor thing that bugged me the most was how faggy, for lack of a better word, all the incidental crew members are. The doctor is the comically gay assistant from 30 Rock. It's like a Bernie Sanders rally in there.

>>7927

The uniforms are weird, at first I thought that they were dress uniforms (gold and/or shiny stuff) but it seems to be their day-to-day uniform, it's not really practical, it's so shiny that the enemy might see them from the other side of the quadrant. Same weird design decision for the collar.

>>7928

Michael's reaction during the jetpack sequence made no sense, why would she be amazed by the space suit and the jetpack? She's been under the chink's command for 7 years, she might have done countless exercises in space.

>>7929

Yeah, I've noticed that the male crew seem to all have a low level of testosterone and they can't act.

>>7924

Marc's performance and also the producer's inability do basic math, specifically number of deaths per 100000, in an audience of people who became attracted to technical fields is what lead to the Gul Dukat scenario. Ira's still butt blasted about it to this day.

>These are miserable, hateful people who are willing to lose money in order to advance their 'hate whites' agenda

Eventually, however, you run out of money to toss at those efforts. There's people who are willing to spend a lot of money on stuff they like, but the amount of stuff they like has declined. So, overall, there's less and less money going around. Hollywood by itself has had a terrible year. There's other industries of course, but you can only burn through so much public good will at once.

>>7895

>putting the pips on the badge and not the collar

For what purpose? It doesn't make sense to me.

>>7924

>Disney has stated they are making a concerted effort to make the Empire less attractive.

While I believe you, I would like a link or screencap of where they state this.

>>7943

Wow you know it's bad when even reddit hates it

>>7801

>Although I think this does take place after Enterprise and before the original series, even in the time of Enterprise not all Klingons got the virus. It was just a (relatively small) portion of the population.

Every Klingon you saw had it in TOS. It may not have spread to everyone in its initial wave but they all got it eventually because every single one seen had it.

>>7944

That's not reddit anon.

>>7952

that whole "virus" retcon is retarded. they should have just left it with what is implied by the appearance and demeanor of Christopher Plummer's General Chang from STVI: Klingons essentially have a racial cast system.

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>>7956

God, that's so much better.

Chances Mike Stoklasa goes back to his Star Trek roots and Plinkett's this?

Chances he's brave enough to call it what it is if he does?

>>7932

>Michael's reaction during the jetpack sequence made no sense, why would she be amazed by the space suit and the jetpack? She's been under the chink's command for 7 years, she might have done countless exercises in space.

that whole scene did irritate the piss out of me. she's huffing and puffing like she's running a marathon while fingering herself. all they need to do is amplify the sound of normal breathing if they want to make her sound nervous or enthusiastic.

but no, the normal scum might not get what is happening in the scene unless you pour it on thick. this is babbys first sci fi show.

>>7965

Considering how much of a Star Trek fan Mike is (to the point where it's a running gag on HitB for Jay to look with exasperation at the camera any time he compares something to Trek), I'd be more surprised if he didn't at least mention it at some point. Since Jay's not really a Trekkie, maybe he'd do a re:View with Rich, or maybe he'd take the time to do a full Plinkett review once the season (and hopefully series) wraps up.

Regardless, considering how he's definitely not one to shy away from calling something shit, I'm sure he'd rip it a new one.

>>7965

Chances why anyone should care about what some e-celeb says? No really, the fuck is that shit with

>what will some jewtube talking head say this time guise amirite

Is it a /tv shitposting thing?

>>7982

>The black girl first officer wasn't nearly as bad as I thought, she's arrogant, kind of dumb, quick to anger, and I thought it was hillarious how the admiral called her a racist.

She sounds like a nigger tbh famalam.

>Is LOTR a bad trilogy because they could of just flew the eagles to mount doom? No.

The eagles thing is one of those instances that was explained in the books but did not make it in the theatrical release (forgot if the extended version put in why the eagle option was not a thing) of the movies.

>It has a lot of oppurtunity to change its aesthetics like all the Star Treks have and develop into a more full comprehensive setting as it goes along.

The problems might be CBS is banking on the show to be popular enough to make their streaming service take off. That's looking questionable at the moment. The other is they kind of started off on the wrong foot with the virtue signalling and the hostile marketing. People are getting sick of that crap, see the NFL ratings plunging and paying fans quitting the more that "take a knee" bullshit goes on.

>>7987

>She sounds like a nigger tbh famalam

Yeah she is, she is also really petulant and the show doesn't portray her as just this "stronk black woman" you can tell her character thinks that of her self but she repeatedly gets btfo as if the show is saying no to it. I was expecting it to make her out to be like this total hero who never fucks up but it wasn't like that really, she was ego-tripping the whole way through and it called her out on that.

>The eagles things is one of those instances that was explained in the books but did not make it in the theatrical release

Gandalf tells Frodo he asks the eagles and they just basically tell him nah thats got fuck all to do with us. Hardly an explanation, who knows maybe her com badge was deactivated when she was relieved of duty and since the ship was half blown up and it was on red alert the communications to the bridge from the brig was disabled. There are a whole lot more GOOD reasons why it wouldn't of been the case, the eagles thing, even when it does "explain" it in the books in just kind of redundant. Point being this shit happens all the time. If I were to crticise films on the basis of "they should of done this" and get pissed about it there wouldn't be much left for me to like, including the past iterations of Star Trek.

The uniforms as well are the same kind of style as they have in the Star Trek films so in a sense they haven't changed that much. Give it a chance if you haven't seen it yet.

>>7990

>Yeah she is, she is also really petulant and the show doesn't portray her as just this "stronk black woman" you can tell her character thinks that of her self but she repeatedly gets btfo as if the show is saying no to it. I was expecting it to make her out to be like this total hero who never fucks up but it wasn't like that really, she was ego-tripping the whole way through and it called her out on that.

Shieeet. I wonder if the writers will Dukat the character.

>LOTR book vs movies

It's been a while and for all I remember in the books it could have been Radagast fucking off tripping balls on shrooms with Bombadil, hence no eagles were available at the beginning. (I'm slightly kidding)

>If I were to crticise films on the basis of "they should of done this" and get pissed about it there wouldn't be much left for me to like, including the past iterations of Star Trek.

Sure, I'm saying they didn't do themselves any favors with the virtue signalling crap. I'm sure the chestnut of, Trek always had a social political commentary in it's fiction is true to some degrees. But there is still that fiction=/=non fiction barrier for good reasons.

>Give it a chance if you haven't seen it yet.

Personally not in any hurry but if you do continue watching it, post your thoughts on it.

>>7895

The admiral outfit is similar to a captain with the exception that the gold bars also appear on the shoulder. I don't know how he missed that.

The outfit itself doesn't look awful, but indicating rank on the badge rather than collar is impractical and difficult to tell apart. I also don't like the OPS and Science division symbols.

>>7894

>they want attendance to drop so they can build it back up with whatever the want their new audience to be and point to improving numbers instead of dropping numbers.

That's a damn good theory.

>>7982

I tuned in for a hilariously retarded SJW-fest and sadly the show is just mediocre-ish so far. The writing is contrived and a lot of dumb things happen but most of the stuff people are bitching about is just autistic screeching.

>>7991

>wonder if the writers will Dukat the character.

Opposite problem--she's basically what you'd get if you fused Neelix and Wesley in a transporter accident, an annoying know-it-all screw up. If she ever manages to do her job without chimping out it will be OOC. She got BTFO so hard I don't see how she will ever recover.

So did Michael go to the academy at any point or did she get fast-tracked into her position because she's a Mary Sue?

>>8017

I think the idea is that the Romulan Vulcan Science Academy is the equivalent of Starfleet Academy. Maybe thats where Vulcan Naval officers are trained normally? If not, then she did.

>>8022

the j.j. nu-trek movies made it clear that they are completely separate and vulcans of that era atleast were frowned on if they chose starfleet cuck academy over the vulcan science academy

cmd. sassy negro clearly was affirmative action fast-tracked

>>7982

so you are saying you like eating shit? good to know

>>8026

it's more likely though that the vulcans just dumped her on starfleet, based on young cmd sass negro's academic performance she was clearly going nowhere academic wise, maybe the vulcan science academy wouldn't have accepted her anyway

>>7982

if your going to pirate it fine but if your actually going to drop money on cbs all access or even netflix if your not american you should just jump off a bridge for supporting this nonsense.

>>7914

>>7915

>>7921

>it looks like they ripped this shit straight out of Star Trek Online. They probably used the same fucking model files.

>>7925

>These ships look like assets from a last-gen console game.

I noticed the common design oversight theme amongst these nuShips. None of them have deflector arrays, even Enterprise's NX-01 featured a tiny one at the front edge of the saucer section.

>>8008

>Opposite problem--she's basically what you'd get if you fused Neelix and Wesley in a transporter accident

Is such a thing possible.png

Something else I'm wondering since it's 'current stardate' and all that. Does the show, any show really have that luxury of "give it a season or two to find it's legs" anymore. That kind of buffer existed in the past but I don't see it happening nowadays. In current era, a show usually has to start with a strong initial impression to make it or else it's chances of survival gets grim fast. People don't have the time patience to give it a season for improvement. At most they will give 2-3 episodes to improve or else they tune the fuck out.

Then again there are still a lot of shit on cable so maybe I'm throwing lawndarts in the dark.

>>8113

>People don't have the time patience to give it a season for improvement. At most they will give 2-3 episodes to improve or else they tune the fuck out.

How do you explain The Walking Dead, that show has covered as much plot in seven seasons as most shows do in two now. Maggie's been pregnant with the same baby for like three fucking seasons.

>>8115

>How do you explain The Walking Dead,

Great timing of muh zombies (and I'm a fan of zombies but TWD the tv series seems to have really landed at an opportune time when a large number of normalfaggots seems to want zombies and post apoc setting) and a pretty good 1st episode at least imo. One of my friends tuned out after the 5th episode, I stuck around for the 1st and 2nd occasionally catching a glimpse of later seasons, a few of my friends stuck around longer. I quit the graphic novel storyline when I reached a point of the story where it just broke my suspension of disbelief on it.

>Maggie's been pregnant with the same baby for like three fucking seasons.

I heard the spinoff is even slower paced, if that's possible. I didn't even bother watching it, though for some reasons the critics were shilling the fuck out of it during it's premiere.

STD has another fly in the ointment with the paywall streaming. I haven't checked any official numbers on how many eyeballs tuned in. I'm just wondering what are their chances of making it into season 2, out of morbid curiosity if nothing else.

>>8116

I stuck around for the 1st and 2nd

>seasons

occasionally catching a glimpse of later seasons,

I gave these a second viewing today since my dad wanted to watch them. I noticed a not so subtle political message spelled out about the Vulcan's method of dealing with Klingons.

>series takes place in 2256

>"Captain we have to fire on them. Hit that ship with everything we got."

>"The Klingon threat is always imminent and inevitable."

>"240 year ago (back in 2016) near [some planet], a Vulcan ship crossed into Klingon space. The Klingons attacked immediately and destroyed the vessel. Vulcans don't make the same mistake twice."

>"From then on until formal relations were established, whenever the Vulcans (anti-fascists) crossed paths with the Klingons (fascists), the Vulcans fired first."

>"They said 'Hello' in a language the Klingons understood. Violence brought respect, and respect brought peace."

>"Captain, we have to give the Klingons a 'Vulcan Hello' (riot in their sector)"

>>8132

>>"240 year ago (back in 2016) near [some planet], a Vulcan ship crossed into Klingon space. The Klingons attacked immediately and destroyed the vessel. Vulcans don't make the same mistake twice."

>a Vulcan ship crossed into Klingon space.

Wait. Doesn't that mean it was the Vulcan ship who initiated the first aggression by trespassing into Klingon space.

>>8132

they act like enterprise never happened

- Archer brought back dna messenger klingon, praised by high council

- Butthurt klingon get's rekt

- Archer brought to trial, get's defended by bad-goy klingon while rekt klingon cries about muh dishonor, and both get sent to klingon prison

- Guards paid off at klingon prison somehow and Archer escapes.

It's like they've never dealt with klingons before.

>>8133

>Wait. Doesn't that mean it was the Vulcan ship who initiated the first aggression by trespassing into Klingon space.

You could interpret it as the Vulcans didn't know they were in Klingon space, or had no formal relations and no recognition of Klingon border, and the Klingons, instead of confronting and ordering the Vulcans to leave, just opened fire.

>>8138

>A) The "Vulcan Hello" is basically seen as psychotic by most rank and file in the Federation given the immediate reaction to it

>B) After said Hello was later given, everything fucked up and made the situation worse

The Vulcans (antifa) are not the Federation (the American voter) though, they are trying to sway the average person's opinion that antifa violence is the appropriate course of action to take against Klingon fascists (Trumpers).

There was never actually a "Vulcan Hello" given, Cmdr. affirmative action attempted to mutiny and put one into action, but was put in the brig. Meanwhile, the chinktin gave the standard Federation diplomatic hello, which the Klingon's propagandize as "their lie" and this united all the Klingon houses into firing first against the Federation.

>>8139

>Meanwhile, the chinktin gave the standard Federation diplomatic hello, which the Klingon's propagandize as "their lie" and this united all the Klingon houses into firing first against the Federation

Keep in mind orders to spin up phasers and PhoTorps were given and (from what I can recall seeing) executed moments before Capt. Crouching Tiger woke up from her 6 second Vulcan Nap. Even though the order to fire was not carried out, if you are aggressive anyway and some asshole is waving a gun safety-off at you when turn your attention to them, what the fuck are you going to do?

>>8140

>Keep in mind orders to spin up phasers and PhoTorps were given and (from what I can recall seeing) executed moments before Capt. Crouching Tiger woke up from her 6 second Vulcan Nap. Even though the order to fire was not carried out, if you are aggressive anyway and some asshole is waving a gun safety-off at you when turn your attention to them, what the fuck are you going to do?

Your analogy is more like "short man syndrome", average sized guy is approached by clutched fist shit-talking manlet that knows if he actual throws a first punch he's going to get destroyed.

vs the tiny bullied kid that body slams the fat kid all over the sidewalk.gif

>>8132

>240 year ago (back in 2016)

That is fucking spooky. I didn't think they would take such a position.

I know I should expect this shit at this point, pls no bully

>>8139

The Lie is that feddies do not come in peace according to the klingons. Do you think the klingons would have been somehow more peaceful if the feddies had opened fire on them without warning?

How the fuck does cmdr Bix Nood actually expect starting a firefight with the Trumpgons would deescalate the situation and allow for a peaceful solution? What kind of insane logic are we working with here, where the honorbound warriors looking for a fight will somehow not simply shoot back with far more guns than the fedrats have when the federasts open fire on them?

While I can buy the idea of the Vulcan Hello in the end making diplomatic relations between Vulcans and Klingons possible, I can't imagine said relations would have involved any of the Vulcan ships that gave that hello, since the klingons would inevitably have murdered every single ship that shot at them.

Since when is an honorbound warrior going to respond with anything by violence, to being attacked? They may respect you more for standing up to them, but that won't mean they aren't going to murder you in self defence.

>>8132

this is at least a good summation of what the left actually believes. "anyone who doesn't follow in lockstep with out ideology and our talking points just needs to be attacked by any means necessary and then when they are cowed we can get along."

>>8149

Oh good, this board is full of ignorant /pol/cucks too.

>>7982

>So after watching the first 2 episodes I am quite surprised and I actually thought it was pretty good.

Then you are objectively stupid as shit my dude.