/strek/ - Star Trek ★

The entire existence of this guy is dumb. Ira Behr developed a taste for Frank Sinatra music and decides he wants to get Frank Jr on his sci-fi show about war and aliens, and eventually developed that into Vic Fontaine.

I don't exactlty dislike the guy, he just really didn't fit on the show. I think he would have worked better on Voyager because he could have taken the place of that hellhole Fair Haven.

>>22828

Vic is annoying, pally. And you'll never get your leg back by hiding in holosuites listening to some 3rd rate space Sinatra, Nog. Ya'll motherfuckers need some Ryker Jazz.

>>22830

What the fuck, why did my embed not copy paste properly, brb time to hegh'bat.

>>22837

>but seriously i think it'd be cool if when Tom was aoard DS9 he stopped into vic's and played with the band. that'd have been cool - but i dont think The Basher had got the program yet.

They didn't, beginning of Voyager is roughly concurrent with the second half of DS9 Season 2.

>>22837

>that shit tastes like urinal cakes smell.

I'll believe your expert word on it since I don't remember the taste of the former and never tasted the latter. :^)

>sure they both fuck holograms, but atleast vic has an excuse.

Holosexuals and photonphuckers get out REeeeeeeeeee!

>but seriously i think it'd be cool if when Tom was aoard DS9 he stopped into vic's and played with the band. that'd have been cool - but i dont think The Basher had got the program yet.

On a more serious note, DS9 episodes that features holograms that seems to blur the lines between advanced AIs. It always seems a bit strange that they use it for entertainment, especially in the middle of a dire hot war, instead of say using machine intelligence to cover any blindspots or the limits of human intelligence.

It's as if the DS9 universe is the opposite of when our universe's military wired up some playstations to make a supercomputer cluster. With VOY the emh program makes sense, you want a 24/7 doctor that can't complain about 'muh space opera career' aboard a damaged starship with a ragtag skeleton crew. Oh sheeeiiit, wait a sec.

>>22839

I think he means Thomas Riker. But that was a season 2 or 3 episode, still long before Vic.

>>22842

It involved the Defiant, so almost certainly early Season 3. But yeah, still well before Fontaine, who was a Season 5(?) appearance…

…my bad, according to Memory Alpha it's Season 6.

>>22842

damn beat me to it!

>>22845

>the hirogen thread

That wasn't me that was uh my transporter twin. Yeah. That's it. agreed.

>remember when broccoli got mind jacked by floating beard guy and learned everything in the universe?

Starfleet could have gained access to info and power that would rival the Q. But nah, let's just give ole Reg a pat on the back and some mealy mouthed spiel from Troi when that chance passed. Fucking hell as much as I enjoy trek in general and their influence on real life technology is undeniable. At times they can be mindbogglingly naive.

Insert copypasta here about no matter how abhorrent the Feds find the idea of section31 YOU WANT SECTION31 ON THAT WALL, YOU NEED SECTION 31 ON THAT WALL!

>>22847

>agreed.

Ehr, that was supposed to be in the next quote part. The fuck I can't post right today, must be too much kanar. Or too few.

>>22854

Yeah I agree, upside-down SF insignia is the best of the wrong choices. CY+359 Federation is one giant daycare center where virtue-signaling socialists can indulge in their fantasies, and S31 are the thankless caretakers.

>>22828

Vic had some of the best interactions with the cast. The Nog episode is fucking amazing and justifies the character entirely.

I found him really annoying and skipped his first episode fairly early on. When I realized that his episodes were so important to character development I decided to put up with them, and while I still have complaints about him specifically, the episodes and interactions that result from him are definitely good.

>>22882

This, Nog with PTSD was actually an interesting take onnit rather than being 'HE GETS BAD NIGHTMARES A LOT'. Someone with psychosomatic pain getting treatment through actually working out shit in their own way rather than getting pumped full of drugs was pretty foreward thinking for the 1990s. Today they are content to pump people up on opiates and call it a day. This is what STD gets wrong, Strek has always been forward thinking but in actual meaningful ways, fpcusing on exploring alternatives to modern paradigms on certain subjects rather than overtly stating a world view. All of the good series has this exploration episodes, Vic and Nog is just one of the best of these.

>>22946

I hate-watched it, it was mediocre for regular tv standards until the terran empire bs then it went fucking dogshite. I more watch it because I (in colab with another anon here) had a great Strek idea and i want to see how to not do it.

>>22946

Do you know what makes Discovery awesome?

>twothousandsomething:'heybbynetflixnchill?'

>2018:I has STD, wanna fuq?

>>22882

>>22908

>Nog with PTSD was actually an interesting take onnit rather than being 'HE GETS BAD NIGHTMARES A LOT'.

I think it's one of the best Trek episodes.

>>22948

>it was mediocre for regular tv standards until the terran empire bs then it went fucking dogshite.

STD is "Can we do worse than the previous episode?". You will never see a STD episode equivalent to Duet, Balance of Terror, It's Only a Paper Moon or the 4th season of ENT. They don't give a shit about Star Trek or science fiction.