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Okey Guys, The moment of Truth has arrived. Which one is the best Star Trek series?
Also post reply in thread and reason
http://www.strawpoll.me/13647625
▶ 1da6bb (9) No.1776>>1782 >>1851 >>5180
>>1775 (OP)
I say DS9, even though the first two seasons were kinda slow it helped you to worldbuild and get a feel of the characters. The whole aspect of having a stationary (no pun intended) location of most of the action was awesome. The politics, intrigues, relationships and action really made the show shine. And everyone knows Dukat is best man in the entire franchise, fight me IRL bro
▶ 438e38 (5) No.1782>>1785 >>1788 >>1792
>>1776
100% this. Also, DS9 had the best wrap up for the characters. TOS got cancelled, and TNG had the characters doing what they always do in the end, which was sort of comfy, don't get me wrong, but not as good as DS9. Voyager had a relatively simple wrap up, basically just "we're home!", and ENT also got cancelled.
What's more, DS9 had the best characters. Both because they made the best characters, and they brought back the best from other shows:
>Dukat
>Garak
>Martok
>Worf
>Kor, Kang, Koloth
>O'Brien
>the list goes on and on
DS9 is best Trek, hands down.
▶ 541f45 (1) No.1785
>>1782
>Martok
you mean Gowron right? Martok is a weakling that can't even win his place as chancellor on his own
▶ 1da6bb (9) No.1788>>1789 >>1790
>>1782
Dont really agree with the wrap up tho, Sisko just magically became a prophet (even tho they kinda built up to it), dukat and winn dies in the cave (sort of pointless), O'Brien just leaves because why not, Garak gives up and of all fucking ferengi Rom becomes Nagus (just why)..
▶ 438e38 (5) No.1789
>>1788
True, but my basic point is that they put more effort into offering closure to the show. Plus, a number of them did make sense. Sisko's ending was admittedly dumb, but like you said had build up. O'Brien's made sense, he went through 15+ years of anomalies, war, and galactic chaos, when he only ever applied to be a transporter chief, then a maintenance man. So giving lectures at the academy was probably like a breath of fresh air for him, plus he had kids to look after. Worf's also made sense, his ambassador position lets him spend time with Klingons, without spending too much time with them, since he never fully fits in anyway. Odo returned to his people in their big family goo-ocean. Also, Dukat died because he was the hero we needed, but not the one we deserved, he was just too good for this galaxy. Winn died because she was a bitch, so I had no problem with it.
▶ 1e4142 (1) No.1790
>>1788
Probably cause they planned an eighth season but got told they were only getting 7 at the last minute
▶ 8dc5ca (1) No.1792>>1822 >>18672
>>1782
I don't think judging series by their conclusions is really fair in the case of TOS, because the way it was structured didn't really necessitate closure in the first place.
All the Treks besides TOS are just such a mixed bag for me. On the one hand, they did some incredible world-building, but at the same time I think that focus on the setting often tended toward self-indulgence and navel-gazing. TOS, fundamentally, was a framework for presenting interesting science fiction scenarios- setting up a small core cast of characters and then throwing moral, ethical, and philosophical dilemmas at them. I feel like in the later shows the heavier emphasis on the setting and characters frequently got in the way of the science fiction.
DS9's characters and overarching plots are great, but you could throw those characters and main plots into a sword and sorcery fantasy setting and you wouldn't lose much. DS9 deserves a lot of credit for its characters and story, but I think TOS wins out as far as actually being a science fiction show.
▶ 1a2d0a (1) No.1795>>1810 >>1811 >>1821
>Three way tie for first
I guess I shouldn't be surprised that the "good ones" are the ones getting votes. Although, I've never seen The Animated Series. On a scale of 1-10, where would you guys put it?
▶ 082165 (27) No.1796>>2120 >>4978
When I was little, there was only TOS, and it was amazing. I'd watch it every night on the local CBS affiliate while I worked on my paintings or drawings.
When I was a teen, there was TNG, and it quickly captured my heart, no matter how humdrum some of the episodes were.
DS9 became my favorite until the race bullshit started with Avery Brooks. I felt disappointed and a little betrayed that Star Trek suddenly wanted me to feel bad about something I'd had no part in in the first place. Bashir was a superhuman, Jadzia was murdered and replaced by a petulant child, and Worf couldn't stop sucking dicks. O'Brien wasn't allowed to hate "the Cardies" and Jake became Black Wesley. Quark somehow becoming a fully functioning female (and it's implied he slept with that guy) was just the crap cherry on the shit sundae.
Voyager was always shit, no matter what.
I tried to love Enterprise, but it just didn't have the chops. They needed a more dynamic captain than Scott Bakula. I knew it was doomed.
Now, in my 40s, I'm watching TOS again on Netflix and it feels like coming home.
My favorite is Star Trek.
>>1775 (OP)
>and for retards
I think you meant "for children" there, OP. It wasn't a dumbed down Trek so much as it was a much smarter Saturday morning cartoon for kids.
▶ 1da6bb (9) No.1810>>1811
>>1795
Eh.. I saw all of the franchise in chronological order so I saw TAS right after TOS, and I basically just did it so that I could get on with TNG, it was kinda fun to see some Hanna-Barbera comics with Star Trek theme and characters, but on a scale 1-10, probably a 2
▶ 1da6bb (9) No.1811
>>1795
>>1810
based on today standards of course, it was probably pretty good when it was released
▶ 70c47f (1) No.1821>>1840
>>1795
The only thing I've ever heard about in regards to TAS is that Spock summons the devil in an episode and that the catgirl was hot.
▶ 438e38 (5) No.1822>>21134
>>1792
I wasn't placing my vote solely on the conclusions, because it would be unfair, seeing as neither TOS or ENT were given proper endings. I was just pointing out that DS9 has the best conclusion compared to the other treks. I was really just adding a bit to the reasons given by the post above mine, since he had already pointed out the main reason why DS9 may be the best Trek.
>but I think TOS wins out as far as actually being a science fiction show.
You're probably right about that. Even when the episodes sometime seemed silly, i.e. Spock's Brain, the show always stayed true to its intended purpose: exploring the unknown as well as the known. The franchise lost a little more of that with each new series, especially when they began to rely too heavily on time travel plots, like in VOY and ENT. I still like DS9 best, but you do bring up some solid points.
▶ 384db5 (2) No.1831>>1851 >>4981
▶ 082165 (27) No.1840>>5451
>>1821
>The only thing I've ever heard about in regards to TAS is that Spock summons the devil
He was already there. Spock just deduced they were in a location that would allow "magic," as it were.
>the catgirl was hot.
I guess that depends on whether you're a furry or a non-degenerate.
▶ 242445 (1) No.1845
>the put the nigger on a purple background
>niggers love purple, reminds them of grape drank
They got progressively worse. TOS was the best, followed by TNG, etc.
▶ 384db5 (2) No.1851
>>1831
I mean >>1776 explained perfectly why DS9 is the best. I put TOS in second because even if it's not the best, it's definitely the comfiest. You can feel just how much quality and thought went into each episode, and leaves you with a huge nostalgic feeling after finishing it.
The last episode/movie of any Star Trek I saw was maybe five years ago and discovering this board is really encouraging me to rewatch everything, especially TOS. I really hope the activity it has now doesn't die.
▶ 13be91 (1) No.1862>>1863 >>8890
▶ 1da6bb (9) No.1863>>1875
>>1862
Technically Yes, but really, Dunno, Kinda?
▶ 5a18cf (2) No.1875>>1954 >>1955
>>1863
Part of it was going to be made canon with Enterprise but the show got cancelled before that happened.
▶ 1da6bb (9) No.1954
>>1875
That would have been really nice actually..
▶ 082165 (27) No.1955>>1956
>>1875
>Part of it was going to be made canon with Enterprise
I'm pretty sure it counts as canon because of Arex and M'Ress showing up in EU works back when you had to get strict approval for everything. I must admit, though, that I'm a little pissed that we have to rely on the fan-made voyages to actually see Arex sitting at the helm.
▶ 082165 (27) No.2069
>>1775 (OP)
What in the actual fuck?
▶ 1bcee8 (1) No.2075>>2077
I liked the animated series more then voyager so I M drawing a line in the sand that voyager is somehow even remotely better.
▶ 082165 (27) No.2077>>2078 >>2079
>>2075
I'm with you. Worse aliens, bad writing, complete disregard of both canon and Prime Directive. It was a shit show.
▶ a60f45 (2) No.2078>>2081 >>4982 >>4984
>>2077
Barring of course all doctor related episodes or episodes where somehow they salvaged something into something.
The only thing I wish ds9 had done was had trois mom have one FUCKING good episode like troi did we she was captured and used her abilities to perform a real role instead of just a counselor. Like freeing betazed from the dominion. I know a book fucking did it but that could have been good.
you might think me crazy for wanting a good episode but I read snippits from the book. I think it could have been a good dark episode where the people of betazed decide to start telepathically killing the dominion. Making a grim dark choice to use there powers against a foe intent on conquering and enslaving them.
See They really neded trois mom to be scaled back at least 20% and I think she could have been alot more likable. Its not like nurse chaplain was terrible. Just trois mom was not restrained enough.
I did like the episode where the dad from that 70's show invaded voyager and was intent on changing history.
I think The entire concept of voyager being 100% cgi killed it. They should have used CGI yes for alot of it but they should have used real ship models as well and blended it so that voyager could have had some fucking change.
The ships damage should have been a constant theme low supplies good times bad times. They needed to kill off chars and adopt new members into the family of voyager changing the ship into something else.
Voyager was so fucking cool of a idea -cries into a bottle.- They did nothing THERE WAS ONLY ONE EPISODE WHERE THEY CONSIDERED UPGRADING THERE FUCKING WEAPONS.
Jesus christ Why did janeway go no we cant use borg tech even though its better rip it out and dismantle it even though we could use upgrades.
They threw in some line about conduits literally being the only upgrade. Not shields…or weapon mods. They could have made a good action show With federation stuff as well being alone isolated.
Those hack frauds
▶ a60f45 (2) No.2079>>2080
>>2077
FUCK MY LIFE I FUCKING HATE THAT IM TRAINED LIKE A DAMN FUCKING MONKEY TO SPACE LIKE THAT FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKKKKKKKKKKKYOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUREDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT
▶ 082165 (27) No.2080
>>2079
I'm fuckin' dying, here. No one even had a chance to flip out over "reddit spacing" and you're already flogging yourself.
▶ 082165 (27) No.2081>>11626
>>2078
>I did like the episode where the dad from that 70's show invaded voyager and was intent on changing history.
Kurtwood Smith is all over the place in Star Trek. He was the President of the Federation in Star Trek VI. Also, am I crazy or did JewJew lift the plot for Star Trek completely from that episode?
>Why did janeway go no we cant use borg tech even though its better rip it out and dismantle it even though we could use upgrades.
If I had to guess, she was afraid of waking up one morning to discover Borg nanites had converted the ship into Unimatrix 19925.
▶ ee96e0 (1) No.2087>>2088 >>2113 >>4979
Well, we may have diverging opinions on which is the best show, but at least we can all agree that Voyager is the fucking worst, right?
▶ d12401 (1) No.2088>>2098
>>2087
it was slightly less boring than enterprise, albeit the series completely throws logic and canon in the trash
▶ 648470 (2) No.2098>>2155
>>2088
Enterprise was better than Voyager, hands down. Just the Doctor was pretty amazing
▶ 082165 (27) No.2113>>2118 >>2123 >>5896
>>2087
>but at least we can all agree that Voyager is the fucking worst, right?
Right.
>Look what it did to Jennifer Lien
▶ 1cb7d8 (2) No.2118
>>2113
It turned her into Mack's mom from Always Sunny.
▶ 73cff0 (1) No.2120>>2122 >>2124
>>1796
>DS9 challenged my juvenile prejudices and i didn't like that
▶ 1cb7d8 (2) No.2122
▶ a75ba1 (1) No.2123>>2150
>>2113
Kes is long dead by now
▶ 082165 (27) No.2124>>2519
>>2120
>>DS9 challenged my juvenile prejudices and i didn't like that
▶ 1da6bb (9) No.2150
>>2123
She looked alright back in the day, altho this haircut makes me wanna rip my eyes out and feed them to a small cowardly targ owned by a dishonored klingon family
▶ c386db (12) No.2155>>2159 >>2203
>>2098
>Just the Doctor was pretty amazing
More sentient than half the other characters on the show. Are we suppose to believe all his actions are mere branches in code? Doctor was too good, which makes me hate it even more. Then, there can only be one copy of our doctor, oh noes, if we transport him all over the place we delete him or bit corruption, whoops! WTF logic.
▶ a2bb9f (1) No.2159>>2200 >>4984
>>2155
In the Voyager comics the Doctor was even better and more of a badass. He transported to the mouth of a Planet Killer to detonate some bombs.
▶ c386db (12) No.2200>>2202
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>2159
>When the plot has to compete with capeshit and you have holo emitters.
▶ c386db (12) No.2202>>2204 >>2425
>>2200
>tfw we were so close to seeing Kate Mulgrew's nipples in this episode
▶ 082165 (27) No.2203
>>2155
>More sentient than half the other characters on the show.
Was anyone else pissed as hell that all the other Doctors had been sent to be miners? Because all that wasted potential got right up my nose.
▶ 082165 (27) No.2204>>2205 >>2425
>>2202
Before CY, we were on track for full nudity in Star Trek. They were pushing the boundaries all the time in Voyager and Enterprise. In CY+2, don't be surprised if ST:D shows every woman in a burqa.
>>tfw we were so close to seeing Kate Mulgrew's nipples in this episode
Here. This is as close as you're going to get without fakes of her being reamed by Neelix.
▶ c386db (12) No.2205
>>2204
>fakes of her being reamed by Neelix
I'm not completely disinterested…
▶ d99c2e (3) No.2258>>2259 >>2260 >>2425 >>4986 >>4988 >>5459 >>17697 >>20572
I don't quite get all the Voyager hate. I enjoyed it, even when Janeway went back in time and made it all not happen. Canon? Prime directive? Temporal causality?
PFFFT, RULES!
▶ c386db (12) No.2259>>2261
>>2258
>I don't quite get all the Voyager hate.
<bunch of faggot unlikable characters
<none with the charm or Quark or Garak
▶ c99f7e (6) No.2260
>>2258
I don't really get it either. It's still the worst Star Trek but it lapses into okay territory occasionally around season 4. Year of Hell is one of my favorite two-parters and not just because of Kurtwood Smith
▶ d99c2e (3) No.2261>>2276 >>2279 >>6452
>>2259
I don't know, I like Tom Paris. Even though he's a chad, he was also a scoundrel and a pervert.
MAQUIS FOR LIFE
▶ 082165 (27) No.2276>>2285
>>2261
>Even though he's a chad, he was also a … pervert.
You repeat yourself.
▶ c386db (12) No.2279>>2285
>>2261
>I like Tom Paris… he's a chad
▶ d99c2e (3) No.2285
>>2276
Technically we're all perverts in someone's eyes.
>>2279
Fuck you, Chekov. How fucked up is your accent that it even foils a universal translator?
▶ 1da6bb (9) No.2389>>2391 >>2392
What happened to the poll, who hijacked it and all voted for VOY
▶ c386db (12) No.2391
>>2389
>What happened to the poll, who hijacked it and all voted for VOY
<"Seven of Nine Votes"
▶ 082165 (27) No.2392
>>2389
>What happened to the poll, who hijacked it and all voted for VOY
▶ dcf131 (6) No.2420>>2465 >>2478 >>2752
God Damnit, the Borg has to take over everything! Even a shitty little strawpoll? that or there's still seven-of-nine fans out there ┬─┬ノ( º _ ºノ)
▶ 438e38 (5) No.2425>>2477 >>5422
>>2258
I don't hate Voyager, in fact I like it generally speaking. Though it's still my least favorite.
>>2202
>>2204
I've masturbated to Captain Janeway more than any other Trek female. is that bad?
▶ fc9da0 (1) No.2426
TNG>TOS>VOY>TAS>DS9>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>≥>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>≥>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ENT
▶ dcf131 (6) No.2461>>2752
Below the rest of greatness accept for TAS (Which I could never get into), ENT Was cool in its own way, 'Post the J.J Reboot', it had some pretty sweet episodes like (Damage) where the ship is falling apart and nerves are thin. But what ENT suffered from is what I call "Azati-Prime are we there Yet? syndrome", The time travel stuff wasn't too bad when you consider the J. J. Abrams BS (Farscape meets Red Dwarf) that shit really did sucks some balls! ( ° ʖ °)
▶ 8cc5e7 (1) No.2465>>2507
>>2420
They used proxy poll. No wonder it was assimilated
▶ 082165 (27) No.2477>>2517
>>2425
>I've masturbated to Captain Janeway more than any other Trek female. is that bad?
Yes. Yes it is.
▶ dcf131 (6) No.2507>>2752
>>2465
God damn Jokers, where's the sport in that! ( ° ʖ ( ° ʖ ( ° ʖ ( ° ʖ °) ʖ °)ʖ °)ʖ °)
>>2478
(▀Ĺ▀ )
▶ 3e538b (1) No.2519>>2523
>>2124
You'll tell your mommy?
▶ 082165 (27) No.2523>>2530
>>2519
Damn straight, I will.
>pic related
▶ dcf131 (6) No.2530>>2561 >>2591 >>2742
>>2523
That's a image that your not sure why it exists, what the story behind it, and whether you should look at it or try to pretend you never saw it in the first place! ( o ʖ o)
▶ 5a18cf (2) No.2561
>>2530
Some things are best left a mystery.
▶ 082165 (27) No.2591>>2603 >>2752
>>2530
>That's a image that your not sure why it exists, what the story behind it, and whether you should look at it or try to pretend you never saw it in the first place!
Pics related.
>( o ʖ o)
Okay, namefag, which site did you come from?
▶ 136c22 (1) No.2592>>2596 >>2597
DS9 was the best until the last season in which the writers over turned everything good about the show. Was it just out of rage about not getting another season, or rather something else?
▶ 082165 (27) No.2596>>2597
>>2592
We should go digging.
▶ c386db (12) No.2597>>2598 >>2599 >>2604
>>2592
>DS9 was the best until the last season in which the writers over turned everything good about the show. Was it just out of rage about not getting another season, or rather something else?
>>2596
>We should go digging.
Funny ya'll should bring it up.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/star-trek-deep-space-nine-showrunner-fabled-season-8-sharing-shows-untold-story-973343
>members of DS9's writers room reunited to tell the story of what would come next --- and details of a fabled season eight, episode one will be made public thanks to a new documentary, What We Left Behind: Looking Back at Star Trek Deep Space Nine. The documentary — which will feature interviews with cast and crew — launches an Indiegogo crowdfunding campaign Thursday to raise money for its completion.
▶ c386db (12) No.2598
>>2597
$647,891 USD total funds raised
423% funded on March 11, 2017
▶ 082165 (27) No.2599>>2602
>>2597
Was just about to post it when yours came up on the autoupdate.
>Nana Visitor sounds like a croaky old witch
>Chase Masterson is still some prime tail
>Molly O'Brien looks like Japanese Taylor Swift
>I'm okay with this
I note the complete absence of Avery Brooks, which surprises me not in the least.
▶ c386db (12) No.2602>>4988
>>2599
>Avery Brooks
He added nothing of value to Shatner's Get a Life - Shatner must have been thinking… "and we paid for this 'interview'?" He acted like a twit on shrooms playing some dopey songs and made Shatner sign along.
▶ dcf131 (6) No.2603>>2616 >>2624 >>2742
>>2591
Site I'm from? Answer: Who cares! Other answers: A passer-by tbh, and a dude that sometimes likes to talk about Star Trek.
And as for 'namefag', at least I'm not 'anonfag' ╱\ ( ⚆ ʖ ⚆)
▶ f0fa14 (1) No.2604>>2606
>>2597
>unlicensed Star Trek work trying to take public shekels to finish their project
This will turn out just like Axanar.
▶ c386db (12) No.2606
>>2604
>After the interviews, comes the Post-Production side of movie-making. This includes editing, music, animation, color-correction, sound mixing. Then there is the biggie… licensing. We are required to license from CBS Studios any Star Trek images or footage that we feature in the film, which means the more we can raise on Indiegogo, the more great DS9 moments we can get into the film.
Sounds like they had already settled on the amount they needed and included it in the goal.
▶ 082165 (27) No.2616>>2619 >>2633
>>2603
>Site I'm from? Answer: Who cares!
Obviously I care or I wouldn't have asked. Was it reddit, 9gag, or did you just hear about us from one of your buddies during recess?
>And as for 'namefag', at least I'm not 'anonfag' ╱\ ( ⚆ ʖ ⚆)
The rest of us are anonfag while you're pretending you deserve a name. If you don't know how things work around here, you need to lurk moar. Or at the very least, ask some questions.
▶ 571425 (1) No.2619>>2629 >>2633
>>2616
Actually speaking of anonfagging, why aren't we all Drones? :^)
▶ c99f7e (6) No.2624>>2633
>>2603
>at least I'm not 'anonfag
Fuck off and die faggot.
▶ 082165 (27) No.2629>>2794
>>2619
>Actually speaking of anonfagging, why aren't we all Drones?
>"drones"
>not "Redshirts"
▶ dcf131 (6) No.2633>>2635 >>2674 >>2742 >>4989
>>2616
Listen Bud, I'm don't going to give you any info accept, I've been on 420, and visited 4Chan and while looking through 8Ch noticed Star Trek board pop up.
Also, Asking one anon dude to give out info about him/herself, is not only silly but also kind of retarded, e.g. (I could ask you exactly the same questions of you), you see its pointless, don't you?
My name is a designation like, Two of Nine. Three of Nine. Four of Nine. but in the end we're all Borg. ( ° ʖ °)
>If you don't know how things work around here
What? dicks on the Internet, I assure you Bud I know about dicks on the net, I'm speaking to you, lol ( ᵔ ʖ ᵔ ) I really don't know why you got a issue with someone using a name, nor do I give a shit, and if you don't like being called a dick, well Boo Hoo, well that's simple, don't act like one.
>>2624
Fag? interesting, Isn't it funny how some people go straight to the words Fag or Faggot, it must mean that their always thinking about that sort of thing. ┬┴┬┴┤ ° ʖ °)
>>2619
We all could use names like in Unimatrix if wanted too, that or for the non Borg type their random crewmember or character :D
P.S. don't you think that throughout all the series ST, namely TNG, VOY, ENT and the first episode of DS9, they have made cool episodes? And Yes, VOY did indeed over used them, as well as use them to end the VOY series, but whatever series they been in they have made them more interesting and exciting? I mean apart from the threat of the Dominion in DS9, the Borg are the one that came closest to wiping out Starfleet, Because once they've taken over your planet, you can kiss your race Goodbye.
▶ 082165 (27) No.2635>>2641 >>2706
>>2633
>Listen Bud, I'm don't going to give you any info accept
Okay, chief, calm down. No need to get upset.
>I've been on 420, and visited 4Chan
"I'm qualified to be a doctor because I put a bandaid on my knee once."
>dicks on the Internet, I assure you Bud I know about dicks on the net
I believe you. EVERYONE believes you. When I read your first message, I thought Now there's a guy who knows everything there is to know about dicks.
>I really don't know why you got a issue with someone using a name, nor do I give a shit
And that, my friend, is exactly the problem. You don't understand, you don't care, and you think you can stroll in here and act like a migrant in Germany and expect us to welcome you with open arms. Except it doesn't work like that. We have traditions, customs, and laws, and you, my friend, are busy shitting in the public pools and raping the local girls like you did back home.
>Isn't it funny how some people go straight to the words Fag or Faggot
I can't speak for that anon, but when I see a tree, I call it a "tree." I assume he looked at you and saw you for what you were.
>We all could use names like in Unimatrix if wanted too
No, YOU learn OUR customs and integrate or YOU shut the fuck up and leave. It's that simple. Tell you what, though, if you think we're too rough, you could go try the guys at >>>/pol/ They're more welcoming to newbies.
▶ c386db (12) No.2641
>>2635
>I believe you. EVERYONE believes you. When I read your first message, I thought Now there's a guy who knows everything there is to know about dicks.
kek
▶ c99f7e (6) No.2674>>2675 >>2706
>>2633
>I've been on 420, and visited 4Chan and while looking through 8Ch
Admitting to using 420chan should be worthy of a ban.
▶ 082165 (27) No.2675>>2706
>>2674
>Admitting to using 420chan should be worthy of a ban.
I know. I can't wait until he comes storming back with "I once p-posted an i-image on w-wizardchan, you know! It was a frog with a sad face!"
▶ af9fb8 (3) No.2706>>2716 >>2736 >>2742 >>2752 >>2755
>>2635
>>2675
I truly pity you sir, it seems reading through this thread I didn't realize you were handicapped in the brain department e.g. (Retarded). ¯\_( ° ʖ ° )_/¯ Only someone like you can take issue on the smallest of reasons to troll another person, only someone like you that shall I say suffering from what I can only guess is Autism and can have a issue on name tagging, 'hey Dickhead! You have a nametag its called your ID: number!' Oops, sorry Anonfag didn't you realized that? i.e. (yours is ID: 082165) The reason I use a Nametag was for one: 'a bit of fun', and two: 'to stand out', and you with the handicapped brain might take issue that, but in the end who gives a fuck what you think! Going through your retarded ramblings you mentioned something about (shitting in pools?), Nah, I just like to peeing in yours and I'm fresh out of chlorine, lol ( ° ʖ°)╭∩╮
Your the kind of simple fellow that reads a book, knows what every word in the book means, but doesn't realize nor understand the meaning behind those sentences. And for example I quote you on 08/07/17
>When I was little, there was only TOS, and it was amazing. I'd watch it every night on the local CBS affiliate while I worked on my paintings or drawings.
>When I was a teen, there was TNG, and it quickly captured my heart, no matter how humdrum some of the episodes were.
You see, the point I'm making is that you watched and probably re-watched and those episodes of TOS and TNG and still turned out to be a bigoted dickhead, "So sad", your like the blonde chick from Stratos who Spock likes. Droxine simply couldn't grasp a very simple fact in her own world, and she also liked to follow rules, just like you. ( ° ʖ °)
>and you think you can stroll in here and act like a migrant in Germany and expect us to welcome you with open arms. Except it doesn't work like that. We have traditions, customs, and laws
>No, YOU learn OUR customs and integrate or YOU shut the fuck up and leave. It's that simple
Yeah, sounds about right for a forty year old German type, addicted to rules and regulations, but not too much going on upstairs, and if you really want to get political, lets hope you had some grandparents were in West Germany when the Reds came in, I bet your great Grandmother liked that, like it A LOT! ( ☉⁄ ⁄ ⁄ ʖ⁄ ⁄ ☉) The Commies gave a fuck about Germany's customs as I do about you and others made up 8Ch Bullshit rules now.
>you could go try the guys at >>>/pol/ They're more welcoming to newbies.
What? A bunch of right winged autistic screeching dummies like yourself? Son, that was where you shitted out from wasn't it? That or either /b, Jeez, what a load Queens! e.g. (silent gay frat boys) that's where you (ID: 082165) and (ID: c99f7e) belong together, "how romantic!" (o‿O)
>>2674
Hey fagmuffin! Once your finished sucking (ID: 082165) dick, can you now stick your head up his ass? you see with him being permanently 'in himself', he gets rather lonely up there and needs a 'yes man' just like you with no spine to talk to, ( ° ʖ °)
>Admitting to using 420chan should be worthy of a ban.
Nah, that isn't worth banning me for, what I said about you a your fuck buddy there is! (° ʖ °) "And I'm sure Banning people always works out, doesn't it? there's no way someone could possibly change their IP Address, I'm sure of that." ( ʘ╭ʖ╮ʘ)
▶ c99f7e (6) No.2716>>2736
>>2706
>Once your finished sucking (ID: 082165)
You are making this so much worse with every post. Are you just taking the piss?
▶ b31582 (1) No.2718
>>1956
oh shit, its spielberg's ET
the real life fan made version didnt resemble him at all
is he sitting at the comm or helm?
…et phone home…
▶ 082165 (27) No.2736>>2752
>>2706
>I didn't realize you were handicapped in the brain department e.g. (Retarded).
Thanks for clarifying that for me. I thought when you said "handicapped in the brain," you meant I was paraplegic or something.
>Only someone like you can take issue on the smallest of reasons to troll another person
I'm not trolling you. I'm telling you how things work around here. Trolling would be if you were doing things correctly and I was pretending that you weren't.
>suffering from what I can only guess is Autism
You're on an imageboard, in a Star Trek sub-board, and you're seriously disparaging spergs? You should go to >>>/cuteboys/ and accuse one of the anons there of being gay while you're at it.
>Everything else you said.
Uh huh. Hold that thought.
>>2716
>You are making this so much worse with every post. Are you just taking the piss?
I do believe he is, actually. I think what we've got here is a bored teen who doesn't know how things work and doesn't care, because he's just looking for something naughty to do. In which case, feeding him is the worst thing we can do. Luckily, he gives himself away every time, so he's easy enough to filter as long as we don't educate him. Also, no one is to tell him about the backup board at >>>/abdl/
▶ 1e0ffb (1) No.2742>>2752
>>2530
>>2603
>>2633
>>2706
Filtered. Return to reddit, or imgur, or wherever it is you came from.
▶ af9fb8 (3) No.2752
>>2736
Congratulations you just won the Captain Dunsel Award!
https://youtu.be/NgO_y57_078
>Thanks for clarifying that for me. I thought when you said "handicapped in the brain," you meant I was paraplegic or something.
Not only you confirmed my suspicions your unable the read complete sentences, but also your not able nor understand words either, this truly and Wow moment! ( ಥ ʖ ಥ)
>>2706
>lets hope you had some grandparents were in West Germany when the Reds came in, I bet your great Grandmother liked that, like it A LOT! ( ☉⁄ ⁄ ⁄ ʖ⁄ ⁄ ☉)
Yeah too dumb for you even notice a mistake on my part by what I said about the Reds coming to Germany, 'I meant East, not West', but non of you pick that up, so that's very Sad indeed. ヽ( ° ʖ°)ﾉ
>You should go to >>>/cuteboys/ and accuse one of the anons there of being gay while you're at it.
Actually Droxine you started what you can't seem to finish, and FYI I'm not the one suggesting boy boards here.
>>2591
>Okay, namefag, which site did you come from?
Also
>I think what we've got here is a bored teen who doesn't know how things work and doesn't care, because he's just looking for something naughty to do.
Actually Droxine all wanted to do is shoot the shit about the Star Trek on which was the Best, but Droxine's Autism kicked in, and here we are!
>Luckily, he gives himself away every time, so he's easy enough to filter as long as we don't educate him.
Yeah good luck with that!
>Also, no one is to tell him about the backup board at >>>/abdl/
What's the first rule about Flight Club again?, was it that we don't talk about the kinky shit we're into?, oh well never mind its not important, just like Droxine's feelings. ( ° °)
>>2742
>Filtered. Return to reddit, or imgur, or wherever it is you came from.
Aww that so simple of you, ( ᵔ ʖ ᵔ ) but you missed
>>2420
>>2461
>>2507
You just click on the ID: number, but your learn one day, just don't let Droxine here teach you though, because you know, "he's special in mores ways than one,"
▶ af9fb8 (3) No.2754>>4975
https://youtu.be/G-S9mtYowPY ( ° ʖ ( ° ʖ ( ° ʖ ( ° ʖ °) ʖ °)ʖ °)ʖ °)
(USER WAS BANNED FOR BEING AN AUTISTIC P'TOK )▶ 1218da (3) No.2755
>>2706
Stop changing your ID. I already filtered you once.
▶ c99f7e (6) No.2756>>2758 >>2759
Man, this thread looks so much better now.
▶ 1218da (3) No.2758
>>2756
Only way it should be
▶ 082165 (27) No.2759>>2763
>>2756
It's for the best, I'm afraid. I don't usually like to filter, but I'm willing to make an exception in this case.
I don't know, sometimes. When I first started out on halfchan, I researched as much as possible to avoid looking like a newfag. Whenever I was caught out, I didn't pretend I knew better, I just shut my piehole and learned from it. Mind you, I wasn't 13 at the time. I haven't seen a kid this green in a long time. He'll either learn or move on, I guess.
▶ 1218da (3) No.2763>>2765
>>2759
You did a shit job then. It's still painfully obvious you're from halfchan.
▶ 082165 (27) No.2765
>>2763
I'm talking years ago, before the exodus.
▶ 44318f (1) No.2794
>>2629
We should change anons to redshirts
▶ 751216 (1) No.3119>>3131
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This Thread RIP
(USER WAS BANNED FOR BEING AN AUTISTIC P'TOK )▶ 359be3 (2) No.3131
>>3119
>(USER WAS BANNED FOR BEING AN AUTISTIC P'TOK )
Ha Ha Ha, that's "p'takh" too many lol's to count
▶ 359be3 (2) No.3133>>3219
Source:
http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/PetaQ#petaQ
One Klingon term used as an insult on numerous occasions was petaQ (also spelled "Pahtak", "Pathak", "p'tahk", "p'takh", "patahk", "pahtk", or "p'tak"). It was also used by the Klingons of the mirror universe.
According to William T. Riker, petaQ was a curse word. (TNG: "The Defector")
( ° つ °)
(USER WAS BANNED FOR BEING A FEDERATION HIPPIE)▶ dbbe48 (1) No.3219
>>3133
>(USER WAS BANNED FOR BEING A FEDERATION HIPPIE)
"This is 'Captain' Kevin Thomas Riley of the starship Enterprise. And who is this?"
Oops do, I keep switching channels on ya?, oh well, never fear the Borg is Here!
https://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/memoryalpha/images/1/15/Kevin_Riley.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/350?cb=20170130220313&path-prefix=en
https://youtu.be/noLjkNIvvlc?t=35s
▶ 548ae3 (1) No.3244
▶ 8931b7 (5) No.3246>>3248
Huh, even with the poll voting by proxy douchebaggery, TNG is ahead, ( ‾ ʖ ‾) go figure!
▶ dbe720 (1) No.3247>>3252 >>3258
I'd rather watch star trek nemesis followed by a voyager/enterprise marathon than 10 minutes of any of the star wars prequels, at least.
▶ c99f7e (6) No.3248>>3252
>>3246
Seriously, fuck off already. I've filtered you six times.
▶ 8931b7 (5) No.3252>>3260
>>3248
>Seriously, fuck off already. I've filtered you six times.
You can filter out mostly everything, but you can't filter out life!
>>3247
Good Man ;^)
▶ 06f188 (2) No.3258>>3289
>>3247
Clone wars or watch jewjew khan?
▶ bce5a8 (1) No.3260
>>3252
>You can filter out mostly everything, but you can't filter out life!
The teenage version of me begs to differ.
▶ 8931b7 (5) No.3289>>3295
>>3258
>Clone wars or watch jewjew khan?
Gross dude, no real Trek fan likes J.J. Abrams Into Darkness nonsense, It was a hack job of Wrath of Khan.
The true question would be: Clone wars or TAS, and both I would be hesitate to Answer. ( ° ʖ °)
https://youtu.be/I8O_C7T5H_s?t=7m21s
▶ 06f188 (2) No.3295>>3303
>>3289
I meant attack of the clones or jewjew khan :P
Which would you rather suffer through.
▶ 8931b7 (5) No.3303
>>3295
If suicide isn't an option, I guess the J.J's Into Darkness, and only for research reasons and for shitting on it later on ( °Ĺ ° ) I can't get into Star War's, because I don't believe in 'Wizards!' { • ʖ •}
▶ 648470 (2) No.3306>>3313
>Emotes
>The Sperg
This thread has no honor!
▶ 8931b7 (5) No.3313
>>3306
>This thread has no honor!
yaj Borg
(▀ ʖ °)
https://www.bing.com/translator
▶ 185168 (2) No.4975
>>2754
>(USER WAS BANNED FOR BEING AN AUTISTIC P'TOK )
Pffft.
▶ 89f79b (15) No.4976
>>1775 (OP)
Best?
TNG the worst.
▶ 89f79b (15) No.4978>>4987
>>1796
>Voyager was always shit, no matter what
Lol fuck you.
▶ 89f79b (15) No.4979
>>2087
No, fuck you. 2nd best at least, for not being a snooze fest and having a relatable crew.
Largely because it was the least Federation.
▶ 89f79b (15) No.4981
>>1831
This is the list of a man who has no opinions of his own, and just sucks SFDebris dick.
▶ 89f79b (15) No.4982
>>2078
The Doctor related episodes were the shittiest, most annoying things to ever watch. What kind of loser wants to see more of that?
▶ 89f79b (15) No.4984
▶ 89f79b (15) No.4986
>>2258
Sf Debris and groupthink.
Similar to what happened to SW I through III
▶ 89f79b (15) No.4988
>>2258
Sf Debris and groupthink.
Similar to what happened to SW I through III
>>2602
Because he WAS high as balls.
▶ 89f79b (15) No.4989>>4990 >>5455 >>5458
>>2633
>And Yes, VOY did indeed over used them, as well as use them to end the VOY series, but whatever series they been in they have made them more interesting and exciting? I mean apart from the threat of the Dominion in DS9, the Borg are the one that came closest to wiping out Starfleet, Because once they've taken over your planet, you can kiss your race Goodbye.
We all know the deep reason Picardrones hate Voyager.
Outside of Voyager and some words, we have no idea the size of the Borg.
Voyager, over the course of several episodes, completely fucking invalidated every victory the Federation ever had over the Borg, by making it very fucking clear that, at any time, the Borg could dump hundreds of Borg Cubes, Spheres and other vessels and shitstomp the entire Alpha Quadrant.
It really is a case of "I don't want to beat your ass, Im just fucking with you".
For the Feddies, the day they sent a Cube through your territory was an existential crisis, a single Cube wiping out whole fleets, making the entirety of your Quadrant shake in fear.
For the Borg, it was a Sunday drive to just look around.
Picard and company are no longer the final ultimate badasses. They are cute mice with spunk, amusement. Nothing more.
▶ 68e614 (1) No.4990
>>4989
>replying to him
>not simply having him filtered
As expected from a faggot who likes Voyager.
▶ 75eb10 (1) No.5016
seasons 3 and 4 of Enterprise were great
niggers should have called it Star Trek: Enterprise from the start…
▶ 47808a (2) No.5020>>5029 >>5144
TOS had some good-looking women with the soft lighting and very short skirts of the time, which stirred things in me as a young lad.
TNG had Dr. Crusher and Troi, two hotties. Love the redhead, and Troi's curves were smokin, and I only fell in love with them more when she was among the first Trek actors I saw in person at a convention. She knew what she had and flaunted it.
DS9 had that Jadzia girl who I thought was very pretty in a model-like way.
Didn't really watch any others, but of all of them, 7 from Voyager was simply sex personified, that skintight outfit, boobsboobsboobs!
So by a slim margin I have to go with voyager because of all of women, she's the one I most would like to bang.
▶ 11ed8f (6) No.5028
>>4964
we were raided, so most of those votes aren't really valid
▶ 11ed8f (6) No.5029
>>5020
soooo basing your rating on the sexiness of the women of the shows and not on overall impression, episodes, plots, immersion or character performance? hm okey..
▶ e0ed07 (4) No.5144
>>5020
I admire the consistency and honesty of your ranking system.
▶ 7931d6 (2) No.5180>>5181 >>5775 >>5818 >>6221
>>1776
PARAMOUNT RIPPED JMS OFF. LURKERS GUIDE.
GARAK BEST CHARACTER.
VOTED DS9 BUT TNG AND TOS CLOSE TIE FOR SECOND.
▶ e0ed07 (4) No.5181>>5208
>>5180
This capslock schtick is already stale.
▶ 7931d6 (2) No.5208
>>5181
MY KEYBOARD IS FUCKED. I CAN'T TURN OFF THE CRUISE CONTROL BUT AT LEAST I CAN STILL STEER.
BUT ONE WONDERS IF YOU POINT THIS OUT BECAUSE I POINTED OUT PARAMOUNT GETTING THE B5 SCRIPT AND HOLDING ON TO IT FOR A WHILE AND THEN RETURNING IT AND SUDDENLY THEY HAVE THEIR OWN SPACE STATION STORY ABOUT ANCIENT GOOD AND EVIL. DS9 PLOT APES B5 PLOT POINT TO PLOT POINT. WHEN B5 HAD HUGE SPACE BATTLES DS9 COPIED.
I LOVE THEM BOTH.
I WILL HOPEFULLY GET A NEW KEYBOARD NEXT WEEK.
GARAK WAS GOING TO BE BI, YOU CAN SEE THAT A LITTLE THE FIST TIME HE MEETS BASHIR BUT IT WAS TOO EDGY. GARAK IS BETTER THAN DUKAT AND ACTUALLY CARED ABOUT CARDASSIA. REMEMBER DUKAT CUCKED CARDASSIA BY HANDING IT OVER TO THE FOUNDER AND THEN FUCKED EVERYTHING UP.
▶ aee287 (1) No.5209>>11634
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i rank voyager 7 of 9
every episode before 7 of 9 sucked
▶ 47808a (2) No.5210
▶ b591e7 (1) No.5241>>5271
What the fuck is going on in this thread?
▶ e0ed07 (4) No.5271>>5455
>>5241
Some guy has a dumb gimmick for the purpose of shitting up the board. It's probably the guy who got booted for namefagging in the other thread.
▶ 473a45 (8) No.5422>>5423 >>5427
>>2425
>I've masturbated to Captain Janeway more than any other Trek female. is that bad?
I'm not saying it's good or bad, I'm just saying it's not credible.
▶ 473a45 (8) No.5423
>>5422
Ehh… I probably should've spoilered that, eh?
▶ 045f05 (1) No.5451
>>1840
M ress just happened to be the sole reason for two full sets of star trek cards at Dave and busters. I thank her for my dave and busters 48 oz mug
▶ 11a6b6 (1) No.5455
>>5271
>Some guy has a dumb gimmick for the purpose of shitting up the board. It's probably the guy who got booted for namefagging in the other thread.
I can't explain it either, this thread is about what is the best ST by merit of their writing and such, not 'who the hottest chick in ST!"
However I did enjoy >>4989 opinion on the Borg, I've pretty much lost interest in this thread ( ° ʖ°)つY
▶ 08c657 (1) No.5458>>5488 >>5491
>>4989
If anything Voyager made the borg a whole lot less fearsome. It was always kind of understood the borg could easy obliterate the federation if it tried.
The Borg from BOBW were adaptive to anything, not just energy weapons. The danger with them was the hive mind could devise solutions rapidly and fabricate them quickly. Voyager made them just have phasor resistance + 8.
They also made the borg for some reason not procreate, but rely purely on assimilation to expand. The initial version had borg infants, implying they grew drones (which would only make sense).
The borg were pretty silly and unserious as an enemy after Voyager's run. Like most things Voyager touched (like Q), it made them worse.
▶ 473a45 (8) No.5459>>5488 >>5511
>>2258
I don't hate Voyager, but it's definitely at the bottom of the stack. I liked it when it was originally airing and I was a teenager, but later on you watch a bunch of episodes of the other series, and then you see some Voyager and realize that these are in different leagues in terms of quality, and that they speak to different audiences. You're not sure why you feel that way, probably because the negative feeling is the sum of myriad details. You need an "SF Debris" to autistically comb through it and pick all the nits for it to become clear.
That's probably why people fixate on subpar entries in popular franchises--- it's hard to understand our own aversion to it, much less explain it to others,
▶ 89f79b (15) No.5488>>5548 >>5575
>>5458
Except youre both wrong and a whiny bitch.
>>5459
>but later on
Yeah, after you got screamed at for daring to enjoy something?
Face it, 90% of TNG is fart huffing, boring pretentious shit. The only people who rate it as a whole, higher than Voy, are SanFran muh equality socjus mufugga retards.
▶ 89f79b (15) No.5491>>5493 >>5505
>>5458
>It was always kind of understood the borg could easy obliterate the federation if it tried
Not really. It was never quite understood by the audience.
Voyager made it explicit.
▶ 1d7c45 (3) No.5493>>5505 >>5520
>>5491
>Voyager made it explicit.
>that the Borg couldn't even obliterate a small undermanned vessel separated from reinforcements
Then there was that species in fluiditic space that the Borg tricked Voyager into attacking because they were kicking the Borg's ass?
▶ 18e8e6 (1) No.5505>>5521
>>5491
It might not have been clear to you, but it was obvious that the Borg were massive and had tons of cubes and had a massive reach even during TNG. There was nothing that ever said they only had a few cubes. In fact in First Contact Riker asks how many cubes they are sending. The Federation was at the edge of its space, and so sending multiple cubes wasn't practical.
Voyager was in Borg space, where they would have tons of cubes.
>>5493
This. I've never heard anyone argue that Voyager made the Borg more threatening. It made them pretty lame tbh.
▶ 621979 (4) No.5511>>5549
>>5459
Yeah. I understand why someone who cares about canon a lot would not like VOY, but as a show about humanity, I think it did many things pretty well. I certainly do not recall many "ideological crimes". It did use plot armor excessively, and I don't like that they turned tyranny of the collective into some sort of dictatorship, among other things; depends if you're willing to overlook that or not… I remember that more than one time I thought the episode is gonna go full socjus, only to end up doing the opposite. Like when the δ-nigger cried about muh incarceration rate and when they let him send a letter, his δ-nigger friends attacked Voyager. We definitely won't see anything like that in STD.
▶ 89f79b (15) No.5520
>>5493
>>that the Borg couldn't even obliterate a small undermanned vessel separated from reinforcements
Because they didnt want to. Period.
▶ 89f79b (15) No.5521>>5522 >>5525 >>5526
>>5505
>The Federation was at the edge of its space, and so sending multiple cubes wasn't practical.
Look and the TNG cucks. Look at them and laugh.
It was eminently practical and possible, for the same reason it was possible for the SWGE to shitwreck most of Trek.
Faster FTL.
Even outside of the Transwarp conduits, the Bor. Had independent Transwarp capability. Which means that they could cross the entire galaxy in a few yeears, likely less than a year.
They dont want to assimilate the Federation.
▶ d45e88 (1) No.5522
>>5521
They want to ASSimilate them instead :^)
▶ 621979 (4) No.5525
>>5521
Federation is near the edge of Borg's sphere of influence, but far away from Borg space. It might be relatively easly for the Borg to destroy planets in the Federation, but it would be considerably more difficult to assimilate the tens of billions of people. How big crew does a cube have? 50K? Even if they killed 99% of people, it could still easily be more than 10k cubes' worth of new drones.
▶ 88b0c8 (1) No.5526>>5557
>>5521
>Look and the TNG cucks. Look at them and laugh.
You are barely coherent. Are yoy arguing the Borg look more fearsome in voyager? That is patently absurd. They were heavily nerfed in First Contact and Voyager.
▶ 1a8dc0 (1) No.5533
TNG cucks are winning of course. Season 1 should be reason enough not to vote for it.
▶ 2a096c (5) No.5545>>5576 >>5644 >>14035
In my life, I have seen all of the films but only TOS and TNG. Following this thread for a month, I decided to start watching DS9. I am two seasons in, and so far I can confidently say that TNG > TOS > DS9 and that Avery Brooks is the worst actor in any Star Trek production ever.
I see that many of you have pointed out that DS9 gets better so I will keep watching it. (I have time for two or three episodes per day.) Once I've seen them all, I'll get started on Voyager.
▶ 473a45 (8) No.5548>>5557
>>5488
>Yeah, after you got screamed at for daring to enjoy something?
You're not a serious person and don't deserve a serious answer. Try harder next time.
>Face it, 90% of TNG is fart huffing, boring pretentious shit. The only people who rate it as a whole, higher than Voy, are SanFran muh equality socjus mufugga retards.
>the only
Again, try not being a retard.
But here's a pro tip: there's more than one dimension by which people might measure something.
▶ 473a45 (8) No.5549>>5558
>>5511
>Yeah. I understand why someone who cares about canon a lot would not like VOY
I don't know about "canon." Like, I'm not super autistic about things staying true to the universe, or even having characterizations be strictly consistent from one writer to the next. I saw one SF Debris video and it pointed out how nonsensical the characters' motivations are within one episode. Faults on the level of basic fiction writing, without even going to anything Trek-specific.
>I remember that more than one time I thought the episode is gonna go full socjus, only to end up doing the opposite. Like when the δ-nigger cried about muh incarceration rate and when they let him send a letter, his δ-nigger friends attacked Voyager. We definitely won't see anything like that in STD.
lol. I'm thinking the PC-ness of the '90s series was just well-intentioned nerd notions of actual equality--- hence the deviations from the libtard script. And now it's going to contrasted vividly against the explicitly anti-white animus which Star Trek: Venereal Disease is going to spew forth until it's fifth episode cancellation.
▶ 89f79b (15) No.5557>>5575 >>5646
>>5526
Im saying TNG cucks are being absurd.
TNG just gave some words and some hints. Barely even that. It even implied that a single Borg Cube was a serious incursion. A serious no nonsense effort on the part of the Birg. TNG even implied a computer virus would have done fine.
Voyager shat all over this notion with the mere mention of hundreds of Cubes from a survivor and evicdence of a Transwarp conduit capable of transporting vessels across the galaxy in mere minutes.
Nothing the Borg did in TNG or TNG movies were serious efforts. Voyager demonstrated that at any time, the Birg could arrive in force, slaughtering and assimilating at will and transwarping away if they feel even remotely threatened.
And lets be real. Ten Borg Cubes would have smashed the entire armada of ships present at the last battles of the Dominion War.
>>5548
Bitch harder faglord.
▶ 89f79b (15) No.5558>>5575
>>5549
Yeah that reminds me. Voy did several SocJus episodes and the running theme was SocJus faggots are horseshit.
▶ 10b115 (1) No.5559
I just voted for the animated series LOL
▶ 621979 (4) No.5575
>>5558
I assume you mean
>Yeah that reminds me. "Voy did several SocJus episodes and the running theme was SocJus" faggots are horseshit.
?
>>5488
>>5557
Curious. I'd expect VOY would to be the one accused of being socjus. Both seemed pretty liberal to me (actually liberal, not current year liberal).
>TNG just gave some words and some hints. Barely even that. It even implied that a single Borg Cube was a serious incursion. A serious no nonsense effort on the part of the Birg. TNG even implied a computer virus would have done fine.
>Voyager shat all over this notion with the mere mention of hundreds of Cubes from a survivor and evicdence of a Transwarp conduit capable of transporting vessels across the galaxy in mere minutes.
I always assumed the TNG encounters were mostly just a probe. Not that I like everything Voyager did with Borg, but I wouldn't say it "shat all over".
▶ 11ed8f (6) No.5576>>5580
>>5545
gud plan short man, the first two seasons are kinda slow, but it gets a lot better, the more you watch the more you like it, there is a reason it is rated the best show by a lot of people
▶ 621979 (4) No.5580
>>5576
Hmm, I might come back to it then. I started watching VOY when I was halfway thorough S1 of DS9. A bit boring and no reason to care about what happens next.
▶ 2a096c (5) No.5644>>5877
>>5545
Following up on my post, I also want to add that I'm really getting bored of the storylines about Quark's love life, and the woman who plays O'Brien's wife is almost as bad an actress as Brooks is an actor. Otherwise, the second season is an improvement over season one. Going into season three tomorrow.
▶ b1a2d4 (1) No.5646
>>5557
>a borg cube was a serious incursion
It is, because they were so much more advanced than the federation. It was never implied anywhere that a single borg cube was a substantial amount of the borg's power. In fact, it was implied the borg had assimilated hundreds or thousands of worlds. The borg sent a single cube because they thought it was sufficient to send a single cube. They rated the entire Federation as only being worth one cube.
You're arguing because voyager encountered hundreds of borg ships and survived they became more fearsome, which makes me question your logic.
>virus
Because it was a collective. It was because the entire borg collective is connected in a hive mind, so they believed a paradox shape might break the whole collective. It had nothing to do with there being a small amount of cubes.
▶ 1f271a (2) No.5743>>5761
Avery Brooks is a fantastic actor just like William Shatner stfu. He is playing someone in the future, you know what we get when actors try to be all Hollywood typical in the trek? Little faggots like Chris Pine, he acting in the trek is spot on because it SHOULD NOT feel familiar, there should be something off about it from our perspective because its not based in our time.
▶ d82e47 (5) No.5761
>>5743
>Avery Brooks is a fantastic actor just like William Shatner stfu.
That is damning with faint praise.
▶ 59f3ae (1) No.5775
>>5180
i hate you but you're correct
▶ 7c1fc5 (1) No.5818
>>5180
Babylon 5 thread when?
▶ aeb7f5 (1) No.5842>>5855 >>5876
Best Star Trek?
It's quite simple my friends, Into Darkness is better than anything else Star Trek has ever done.
Fite me
▶ d82e47 (5) No.5855
>>5842
>Into Darkness is better than anything else Star Trek has ever done.
▶ 2a096c (5) No.5876
>>5842
>fite me
no one is up for fighting a retard
▶ 2a096c (5) No.5877>>5883
>>5644
Following up yet again, DS9 seems to be suddenly getting better (I'm deep into the third season now), aside from Quark's love life being carefully explored in every other episode.
▶ d82e47 (5) No.5883
>>5877
>DS9 seems to be suddenly getting better (I'm deep into the third season now)
Things should pick up for you once Sisko abandons all pretense of being a good guy and starts openly plotting to do what he feels like, screwing over anyone and everyone, depending on the situation. The "LOCUSTS! LOCUSTS AROUND BAJOR!" episode in particular is high on the "Why the fuck hasn't this guy been court-martialed, yet?" scale.
▶ 6ad8dc (1) No.5896
>>2113
She also married an Asian. I have no idea which would do more psychological damage.
▶ 97adb3 (1) No.5902>>5904 >>5947 >>5948 >>5978 >>5993 >>6194 >>6195 >>6199 >>6222 >>6481
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
Star Trek: Discovery will be the best because it is so diverse and deals with personal issues and drama other than dumb ethical theories.
▶ d82e47 (5) No.5904
▶ 11ed8f (6) No.5947
>>5902
Not a valid answer to the question since it is not released yet, also bait, also try again
▶ 087d8d (1) No.5948
>>5902
Please do not even joke about that.
▶ 928dfa (1) No.5978
>>5902
Kill yourself, faggot
▶ 8466eb (1) No.5993
▶ 2a096c (5) No.6194
>>5902
This kills the thread.
▶ 640e9f (1) No.6195
>>5902
> This video is not available.
▶ 473a45 (8) No.6199>>6220
>>5902
>because it is so diverse and deals with personal issues and drama other than dumb ethical theories.
I doubt even actual shitlibs would outright declare that preference for nonwhite characters and actors is their core interest. In fact, I doubt they'd say it's "best" because of this. They'll just say it's the most progressive, and that it signals the most virtue.
In fact, they probably don't even imply that they're going to watch it. Instead, they'd gloat that it's going to be completely unwatchable to anyone who isn't an anti-white communist.
▶ 8124ba (2) No.6221
>>5180
DS9 is such a blatant rip off of Babylon 5 it's disgusting
that being said, DS9 is still a good show
▶ 8124ba (2) No.6222
▶ 44a1e0 (1) No.6366
TNG > OG > DS9 > Enterprise > The Orville > Voyager
▶ ac7754 (1) No.6452
>>2261
don't listen to leftyidpol, Tom Paris was a good character, he wasn't much of a scoundrel.
▶ cd0b2d (2) No.6480>>8831
>>1775 (OP)
TOS takes the cake. TNG is just nostalgia fanwank and "muh modern special effects". DS9 is right behind it or its equal for a number of grand reasons.
▶ cd0b2d (2) No.6481
>>5902
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting.
▶ 391ce7 (3) No.8830
>>1775 (OP)
The best Star Trek series has the worst pilot episode.
The best pilot episode comes from the worst Star Trek series.
Why is this?
▶ 391ce7 (3) No.8831
>>6480
Ah yes, well you see, hundreds of years ago our kind visited your world Earth and that is why even though we are aliens we look like cowboys, Greek gods, mafia guys etc.
Fuck TOS. This trope is incredibly retarded and lazy.
▶ 473a45 (8) No.8833>>8852 >>8856 >>8881 >>11692
I'm not sure what my favorite is. I only saw one season of TOS, fairly recently, and while I loved it for being unaffectedly '60s as fuck and didn't mind the retarded conceits, I don't find that I can rewatch these episodes the way I do with the '90s series.
The '90s series, meanwhile, are good in different ways. TNG had sperg appeal and was my stand-out favorite for ages for that reason, but DS9 had great characters and a riveting storyline, and Voyager had a really nice rack for the last four seasons or so.
I could really leave it up to a coin toss, but I guess it goes
TNG > DS9 > TOS >>> VOY >>>>>> ENT
Couldn't sit through the first episode of ENT. No thank you.
▶ 7d5799 (1) No.8852>>8856 >>8873
>>8833
Yet you could sit through Voyager?
▶ 11ed8f (6) No.8856>>8873
>>8852
>>8833
its all about willpower, if you continue over the first hurdle with any show it will become worth it soon enough
▶ 473a45 (8) No.8873
>>8852
To be fair, this is also the difference between age 10 and age 20.
>>8856
Yeah, I guess that's true. The pilot is usually terrible.
▶ 391ce7 (3) No.8881
>>8833
What's wrong with Broken Bow? I've rewatched it about a half dozen times.
▶ e3e319 (1) No.8890
>>1862
Officially, TAS is not canon, but the writers usually treat it like it is. Basically its not canon until the writers use something from it in another show to make it canon. The most notable example is Spock's mother's name. It's also where we first find out that Kirk's middle name is Tiberius.
▶ 0e9e0d (1) No.8902
DS9. I don't have the statistics in front of me, but I think it has the least amount of retarded episodes, while having the highest amount of extremely good episodes (Duet is the best Trek content ever made).
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▶ 16690d (1) No.11626
>>2081
but here is the point, did she actually state something of that nature or was it another blank that had to be filled by us?
considering the level of writing, leaving every single page of the script blank would have been an improvement
▶ 6d5003 (4) No.11634
>>5209
oh come on, sure 0.77777…8 is gud and all, but VOY was okay before also
▶ 1fdf89 (8) No.11692
>>8833
Broken Bow was easily the best Star Trek pilot, though The Caretaker is a close second.
If you can get through Farpoint I see no reason why you couldn't handle Broken Bow.
▶ 912ed2 (2) No.11695>>11696 >>11721
>>1775 (OP)
>Which one is the best Star Trek series?
Latinum level: DS9
Gold level tossup either or: TOS and TNG
Tried but wound up recycling too much TNG: Voyager
An attempt was made: Enterprise except the mirror universe episode that one was pretty good.
▶ 6d5003 (4) No.11696
>>11695
You said it best brother
▶ 9bcef5 (1) No.11720>>11723
This is about what I'd expect because a lot of people started with TNG and skipped TOS entirely.
▶ 1fdf89 (8) No.11721>>11803
>>11695
The mirror universe episodes were the worst, and they usually are, even when DS9 did them.
I don't know why dorks love the Mirror Universe trope so much when it's just silly nonsense that never goes anywhere worthwhile.
t. "Smiley"
▶ 1fdf89 (8) No.11723
>>11720
How likely do you think it is that all of the people who voted actually took the time to watch every episode of every season.
I'm not necessarily saying that TNG isn't the best, but maybe for a certain visible age group it happens to be the most referenced and best known Trek series?
▶ 289fa8 (3) No.11783>>11796 >>11870
>>1775 (OP)
> Which one is the best Star Trek series?
I would argue that all Star trek series had good and bad episodes as well as good and bad seasons, except for STD wich is objectively shit.
>TOS
The original, effekts suck but story is decent and political correctness not a issue.
>TNG
Decent effekts, but some episodes are just boring while others are awesome.
>DS9
Same as TNG untill the dominion war starts
>VOY
Doesn´t have many that good episodes, but not many that bad episodes either.
>ENT
First season sucked, but it got better season by season and was killed off too early.
>STD
Sucks more than worst episodes of first season ENT so far…
▶ 681a18 (1) No.11786>>11790 >>11800
>>1775 (OP)
This chart is obsolete. It doesn't contain Star Trek Orville
▶ fd21d9 (1) No.11790>>11791
>>11786
By that logic you should also include Galaxy Quest.
▶ fff763 (1) No.11791
>>11790
It should tbh
Maybe Babylon 5
Just no CIScovery
▶ 1fdf89 (8) No.11796
>>11783
The Xindi arc was terrible, and the worst part of ENT.
▶ daa1ba (1) No.11800
>>11786
if only someone would correct this with a bit of OC like a banner or something…
▶ 912ed2 (2) No.11803>>11823
>>11721
>The mirror universe episodes were the worst, and they usually are, even when DS9 did them.
Nearly all the mirror universe episodes in everything but Enterprise was usually silly and just for chuckles at best. Enterprise appears to be the exception where they should have just based the entire series or at least a season with that instead.
▶ d311cf (2) No.11823>>11854 >>11855
>>11803
There was talk of doing a mirror universe season, or at least half a season in Enterprise.
▶ 1fdf89 (8) No.11854
>>11823
Then maybe it's for the best ENT was cancelled.
So many bad ideas would have come to fruition, they probably would have opted for some campy Mirror Universe season over the Earth Romulus war. Yep ENT just had to be put down like a dog with rabies, it could only have gotten worse.
▶ 664046 (1) No.11855>>11885
>>11823
The mirror universe was a good TOS episode. Otherwise it’s overused.
swoleverse is an exception
▶ 1fdf89 (8) No.11870>>11876 >>14041
>>11783
>So far
You've only seen 1 episode of STD.
▶ 289fa8 (3) No.11876>>11877 >>11927
>>11870
>You've only seen 1 episode of STD.
No, I made the misstake of watching all 9 of them…
▶ f85756 (10) No.11877>>11878 >>14041
>>11876
It will get better, don't you worry anon
▶ 289fa8 (3) No.11878>>11901
>>11877
>It will get better
What makes you so sure about that?
▶ d311cf (2) No.11885>>11907 >>11930
>>11855
Swoleverse needs about 7 series at least, with about 6 of them being dedicated to gym workout sessions.
▶ f85756 (10) No.11901>>11906 >>11907 >>11930 >>14041
>>11878
Every single one of the older generations are stubborn and reluctant for new series in their 'beloved franchise', many people from TOS didn't like TNG, many people from TNG/DS9/VOY didn't like ENT, many from the original series didn't like DIS, it is just about adapting to the new series and incorporating it into the franchise.. and most people know that the first and second season in any ST series will be uncomfortable but will get better as worldbuilding and character development advances, so I am hopeful for the future of the DIS series
▶ 4448dd (1) No.11906>>11908
>>11901
>calling STD "DIS"
hello reddit
▶ d4da70 (4) No.11907>>11919 >>11930
>>11885
>Watch Riker and Picard sweating and grunting through workouts
>Go upstairs and fuck the shit out of wife
>>11901
>Every single one of the older generations are stubborn and reluctant for new series in their 'beloved franchise'
It’s funny how soyboys who are obsessed with seeing a talentless negress and Spacey’s cumrag make out with dudes have no defense against how awful it is, except that it will get better as long as they continue to watch it. Season one of TOS was fine. TNG improved only because they took it away from Roddenberry. DS9 was good when they started introducing larger arcs like Babylon 5. Enterprise was always shit because the premise is fucking stupid.
So no, Star Trek shows don’t ‘magically’ get better. They get better because there was always an adult at Paramount who understood what the hell to do with Star Trek, and eventually the producers would give the show to him. Now? Nobody is going to stop the pozz. All the old hands are doing the Orville where the last kikes who care about quality have all congregated.
Their best bet would be to get the Axanar guy, but they won’t. They are going to stubbornly insist things will get better because like you they believe in magic and that as long as they have social justice plots and throw code snippets from trannies up on the screen eventually blacks and humorless feminists will change their media consumption patterns and watch science fiction.
▶ f85756 (10) No.11908>>11909 >>14041
>>11906
>thinks all the shows start with 'ST', STTOS, STTNG, STDS9, STVOY etc,
>the shows actually use their specific title instead of ST, TOS, TNG DS9, etc all the way to DIS
>please retard
▶ d4da70 (4) No.11909>>11910
>>11908
>>please retard
Who are you quoting newfag?
▶ f85756 (10) No.11910>>11911 >>14041
>>11909
Am I right or wrong?
▶ d4da70 (4) No.11911>>11912
>>11910
You are retarded. Go back to reddit.
▶ f85756 (10) No.11912>>11913
>>11911
So calling StarTrek: Discovery(which is the appropriate name given the culture of StarTrek) DIS instead 'STD' is retarded? Is that what you mean?
▶ d4da70 (4) No.11913>>11914 >>16729
>>11912
Well see newfag, everyone here calls it STD. We have our reasons for doing so. That’s the convention here. So you wandering in and insisting we’re calling it the wrong thing, and insisting your abbreviation is better just makes you a dumb cunt.
▶ f85756 (10) No.11914>>11916 >>11919
>>11913
>I do what everyone else tells me to
this only tells me that you don't really have a fundamental understanding of the StarTrek-community, only of the meme side of it..
▶ 65d593 (1) No.11916>>11917 >>11918
>>11914
>I act like a faggot and insist I’m always right
STD is clearly the show for you.
▶ f85756 (10) No.11917>>11919
>>11916
I get it, you call it 'STD' either because you really think you are cool to be meming or because you really think that Sexual-Transmitted-Deceases explain StarTrek: Discovery, either way, you don't respect the community or the franchise, it is really sad to witness your continuous faggotry..
▶ 1fdf89 (8) No.11918
>>11916
Gabriel Lorca is Trek's best captain though, just sayin.
▶ d98b7f (5) No.11919>>11920 >>11929
>>11914
>THE Star Trek Community
Excuse me, Faggamuffin, but you do understand that there is no unified Community, and even if there was, you are not its anointed emissary, right?
>>11917
What community? Thus far, only a handful of tasteless reprobates or fanatics have admitted to liking the show, the rest of the watchers are doing it out of horrified fascination. Calling the show by its acronym seems appropriate, as it is a plague on a franchise and on those who want a good time.
I also notice that you haven't replied to >>11907 here, despite his more comprehensive rebuttal. Have some courage already, you're embarrassing us.
▶ f85756 (10) No.11920>>11922 >>11924
>>11919
If you don't like it, don't watch it, simple enough? Even a grown person like yourself should be able to follow that simple step, right?
▶ d98b7f (5) No.11922>>11923
>>11920
You're dodging the questions. Quit hiding.
▶ f85756 (10) No.11923>>11929
>>11922
What is the 'question' then?
▶ c13b6e (1) No.11924
>>11920
>If you don't like it, don't watch it, simple enough?
How about I continue to point out it’s shit, and you rage impotently at your monitor that there is a different opinion to yours?
▶ 1fdf89 (8) No.11927
>>11876
3 of those episodes were quite good. And only 1 was terrible.
▶ d98b7f (5) No.11929>>11935
>>11923
Don't be obtuse.
>>11919
▶ afbb60 (1) No.11930>>11933 >>11935 >>11939
>>11885
>Swoleverse needs about 7 series at least, with about 6 of them being dedicated to gym workout sessions.
that episode where the replicators malfunction and swolecrew can't reach their protein targets, fucking up everybody's gains. Also, many episodes of shagging gym sloots like pic related.
>>11901
literally just repeating discredited scrub and sjw shill arguments from plebbit. 3/10 trolling effort.
>>11907
just like with all the #MeToo hysteria ruining as many leftist "good guys" as catching problematic shitlords and republican politicians, their fuckery is now biting them in the ass. STD is not going to "get better" after a few seasons like TNG. It can't. It's a serialized show. There is no 'reset button' to mash at the end of each episode, which enables them to iterate from episode-to-episode, season-to-season. That show works like one big giant movie. It's what many Star Trek fans and normie outsiders thought they wanted in a new series but had no idea of the risk they were taking if the show came out shit. This show came out shit. Now they're stuck with it.
▶ d98b7f (5) No.11933
>>11930
Rather like how difficult it is to put out a fire engulfing a train when the brakes are cut.
▶ f85756 (10) No.11935>>11938 >>11973
>>11929
so you don't even know what question you want to be answered? seems kinda autistic to me
>>11930
>thing that has happened every time a new StarTrek series has been released in past is not applicable the 5th time the exact thing has happened
are you seriously rejecting logical a conclusions of the precious series?
▶ 2f974a (1) No.11938>>11959
>>11935
I already pointed out why you were a retard. You ignored my post.
▶ e13744 (1) No.11939>>11944
>>11930
Do Klingon women count as swole?
▶ 2cc151 (1) No.11944
▶ d98b7f (5) No.11959
>>11938
He also ignored the questions in mine.
▶ 1242de (1) No.11973
>>11935
>every time
>conveniently leaves out Voyager
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▶ dc87ba (1) No.14035
>>5545
>Avery Brooks
>a bad actor
Sisko is just an eccentric man with a multitude of personas.
▶ 72ef04 (2) No.14040
TOS and DS9. No contest. Everyone else can go suck a dick.
▶ 449d15 (1) No.14122
>>14041
His this why he wants to sign up for the Cuntantino film? Make JewJew suck his dick?
▶ c9c378 (2) No.16500
▶ 8541db (3) No.16728
>>1775 (OP)
DS9 for consistency
TOS for characters
VOY for ship design
ENT for overall story
TNG for certain episodes
▶ 8541db (3) No.16729
>>11913
"We don't take kindly"
▶ f070e8 (1) No.17697>>18217
>>2258
I loved Voyager, fuck all you homos.
▶ 11c2c3 (1) No.18217>>20324
>>17697
You can get spanked around here for that without justifying why
▶ 8541db (3) No.18672
>>1792
>We noticed you Earthlings worshiped these gods, so we modeled ourselves upon them cuz it was cool and the costume dept said it would be easy
▶ 0d38ea (2) No.18673>>20325
TNG>DS9>TAS>TOS>VOY>ENT>videos of people watching their pets be put to sleep>videos of people being told they have cancer>videos of cats being tortured>interracial cuck porn>STD
▶ 19c059 (1) No.18674>>18774
DS9=TNG=TOS>Shit I'm never watching.
▶ d172a2 (1) No.18774
>>18674
That's very unfair on TAS
▶ 868829 (1) No.20238
>>1775 (OP)
bump of importance
▶ 9961fd (1) No.20324
>>18217
Because even when it's bad, 90s Trek is still decent. Voyager is one of the weakest components (until nuTrek arrived) but it's still Trek. Admittedly I got a bit fatigued watching Voyager in a way I did not while watching TNG and DS9, but it still has its moments. I can't discredit nostalgia as a factor though: TNG-DS9-VOY were running through my early childhood into high school and will always be what I think of when I think of Trek.
▶ 376838 (1) No.20325>>20327 >>20328
>>18673
>TNG>DS9>TAS>TOS
No, no, good sir.
(TOS>=TNG>DS9>VOY>Enterprise) != STD
▶ 08e92d (1) No.20327>>20564
>>20325
TOS really is overrated and is very repetitive. It does have quite a few good and iconic episodes and although TNG is full of terrible filler it's best episodes easily outshine TOS best.
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▶ c9c378 (2) No.20564
>>20327
TOS is nice but mostly like an anchor to the franchise, I don't think that I would want to rewatch it
▶ f0d88a (1) No.20572>>20589
>>2258
Voyager broke my heart. I was so excited when it premiered, I loved Dr., loved the kinda weird tension between Dr. and Kes. Then I watched a few episodes down the line and suddenly started feeling uneasy 'like this is not good anymore…' and that grew and grew and my former excitement at a new episode premiering turned to apathy I felt so let down. I wanted to like Voyager, I want to keep enjoying it. I couldn't. You guys have explained the reasons why it went to shit so no need to go over them all again but man…what a shame
▶ 6c507b (2) No.20579
TOS because it's consistent in its quality. TNG has some really fucking horrible episodes, I got to admit ("Where are you? I'm coming! Where are you?"), but than on the other hand some TNG episodes are better than every other TOS episode. DS9 puts me to sleep, all this fucking Bajoran politics, also they suffer from the "ambassador of the weak" syndrome from TNG. VOY wasn't that bad if you can stomach the fact that they've ruined the Borg, EMH episodes were good but there was also a lot of logical loopholes. ENT was even more of a snoozefest than DS9, literally the only episodes I liked was Terra Nova and Regeneration, and it's telling that they needed to bring back the Borg to make it slightly interesting. STD is all over the place.
▶ 6c507b (2) No.20589>>20624 >>20625 >>20649
>>20572
You think about it, Voyager had so much potential. After we've seen the integration of aliens in human society as a concept to explore (Spock), we experienced the integration of androids (data), or the integration of a literal puddle of goo (Odo) and a Tok'ra (Jax), the next logical step would be a sentinent computer program, like the EMH and an ex-Borg drone. So that was good.
It was also good that they've thrown Voyager into the Delta Quadrant, we could have explored things like the values of the Federation and how they are worth anything in the Delta Quadrant, they did this in Equinox which is a great episode but this concept wasn't nearly used enough. Voyager looked way to posh and tidy for a ship travelling through unknown space for years, it should have way more alien technology and modifications, and some things starting to fall apart because nobody in this quadrant knows how to fix Federation tech. I'd also expect them to meet some really different aliens and not just another forehead prosthetic. I mean, TOS met literal gods on a regular basis, yet Voyager meets some basic bitch stuff despite them being further away.
Instead the writers wanted to play it save, and gave us the same TNG shit, lots of ambassadors, trade deals, heist plots, holodeck adventures and criminal investigations, and a nerfed version of the Borg who get taken out with one simple trick all the time where it makes you wonder how the fuck aren't they fully destroyed yet. Voyager really is about what could have been, and how they screwed it. However, there are plenty of episodes I loved. There are just too many episodes where you feel like that something is missing, something doesn't feel alright. However, if you think about it, VOY was the last ST show that still evolved arround concepts of humanity, ethics and philosophy. ENT mostly abandoned that except for a few episodes like Terra Nova. And STD is obviously just about personal drama and action. In that sense, ST:TMP was when Star Trek was the most Star Trek, despite it not being the objectively best installment. That's why I also like TOS the most, because it was so ahead of its time - science fiction used to be trash before that, but Roddenberry actually saw movies from the Eastern Bloc which evolved way more arround humanity, philosophy, ethics, etc. - Star Trek is not a rip-off of Forbidden Planet like liberals like George R.R. Martin claim, but has it's roots in Eastern sci-fi cinema, such as The Silent Star from East Germany.
▶ ec5ab5 (2) No.20624
>>20589
Chekov, is that you?
In all seriousness, could you expand on that last bit?
▶ 9e84d9 (1) No.20625>>20643 >>20646
>>20589
The problem is that nuBSG was touted as ‘Voyager done right’, with Ronald Moore helming it, and it fell apart into total shit. Voyager as TNG knockoff was better than nuBSG, so the only conclusion is that the producers made the right call.
▶ 4ab501 (1) No.20643
>>20625
Oh Katarina, you so crazy.
▶ 09d52c (1) No.20646
>>20625
BSG was Voyager done right for the first two seasons.
Characters being secret angels or whatever the fuck never would have caught on as a plot point for a Star Trek series, anyway.
▶ a86853 (1) No.20649>>20948 >>20953
>>20589
I can't even remember what episode it was but I remember it being pretty decent where the Voyager and a bunch of other ships are trapped in some void. In order to survive they either scavenge or work together. Voyager forming a fleet of ships and essentially a mini-Federation was a really good premise and should have been explored more.
▶ 17e178 (1) No.20948>>20953
>>20649
I'm half tempted to rewatch voyager again just to find all the episodes that were any good and compile it into an infographic as a recommended viewing list. The series would be very short, but anyone curious about Voyager that hadn't already seen it would at least be able to see and fondly remember the good bits unsullied by the rest of the show.
▶ 227fff (1) No.20953>>20970
>>20649
That one was alright.
>>20948
The one where everyone and everything was falling apart, then you find out it was a clone crew and ship, still a pretty good ep.
The fluidic space alien story arc has it's moments. The Hirojin story arc, same. Hmm, 7of9 fightclub one? I'm running out of memory.
▶ 866cc5 (4) No.20970>>20971 >>20977 >>21095
>>20953
One Year of Hell
The one where the crew conspire against the doctor
The one where the doctor goes to the Alpha quadrant and overcomes some Romulans with the help of another EMH
The one where the doctor is hundreds of years in the future to debunk a horror story about Voyager
The one where the fluidic spade species rebuilds the Federation headquarters
The one where Seven sees a raven and goes apeshit
The one where Seven is stranded on a planet with some other Borg drones severed from the collective
The one where Chakotey meets a bunch of ex-Borg who have established their own collective and hook him up to it
The one with the dinosaur aliens from earth
Actually Voyager isn't so bad since I can list so many really good episodes. I think people have a bit of a bias here, do you know how many absolutely terminally boring DS9 episodes are out there?
▶ 866cc5 (4) No.20971>>20977
>>20970
I got two more:
The one where Seven is alone with everybody in cryogenic sleep
Equinox
▶ 65c64f (1) No.20977>>20979 >>20982
>>20970
>>20971
The problem with Voyager is that the two who carry the show are the EMH and Seven, the latter only showing up after 4 seasons. The rest of the cast are almost always boring.
▶ 866cc5 (4) No.20979>>20982 >>20985 >>20994
>>20977
Agreed. Chakotey barely has any persoanlity besides being a native American so he constantly gets tropes evolving arround indigenous issues thrown at him. Tom Paris is obviously to fulfill the Riker/Kirk role, the problem is he's "just" that. There is not other layer to him. Harry Kim is a brat and a mixture between Wesley Crusher and Bashir, over-confident regarding his own potential and constantly enarmoured with carriers of space STD. B'Elana is the waste of a pretty actress because all she does is being a bitch. Neelix is a hyper-naive libshit and fails in replacing Quark because there are no devious aspects to him.
The only ones of the original crew who are alright are Janeway, who works I guess but has no foil to rub herself against like Sisko (the only time something like this happened was in the Scorpion two-parter with Chakotey), and Tuvok, but there is something wrong with Tuvok as well: To have a Vulcan as chief of security is stupid because chief of security is per definition already a grumpy, overly careful by-the-books dude, to have a Vulcan in that role adds no layers to it.
▶ 866cc5 (4) No.20980>>20982
And yeah, one of the disappointing things was that despite it being in the Delta Quadrant, we got some TNG style ambassador of the week stuff, instead of seeing some really outlandish, strange and weird shit. You'd expect a ship thrown at the edge of galaxy meeting more than just aliens with a different forehead prosthetic. The only time this was achieved was with the creepy aliens living in total darkness where no stars are arround them and species 6472 (no idea if that's the correct number).
▶ 2320a9 (1) No.20982
>>20977
Pretty much this.
>>20979
Janeway actually can be somewhat interesting at moments when she isn't being bipolar.
>>20980
Spooky Trek when?
▶ 8b46f2 (1) No.20985>>21011
>>20979
>Agreed. Chakotey barely has any persoanlity besides being a native American
Also, the actor supposedly hated the degree to which the writers were pushing the "muh injuns" bullshit, so can't expect him to put his heart and soul into the role.
▶ 9e8463 (1) No.20994
>>20979
Tuvok was a shitty and uninteresting character. Spock worked because he was an emotional person working hard to suppress his humanity and act vulcan. Tuvok is just a vulcan and so totally dull.
▶ 94d930 (2) No.21011>>21055
>>20985
No "supposedly" about that. Beltran pretty much hated everything about the show the moment Janeway's actress got replaced by Mulgrew (not that it wasn't a correct choice in the end, but still, it was one of many, many things he would find annoying over the years). The Native shit is obvious ofc, but I also read he thought everyone (I forget if he meant the actors or the writing/producing staff) was too fucking full of themselves. Something about him coming from a fairly poor family with an autistic brother that made him think everyone around him was preaching for equality and so and so while not doing much other than acting in or writing for a sub-par show with so much backstage drama. I believe the only time he ever talks positively about his experience on VOY is when he's trying to act nice and shill his upcoming projects (as he apparently did in his Reddit AMA). Mostly he just says how little he enjoyed anything to do with it.
▶ 084450 (1) No.21055>>21082
>>21011
Wait did they hate Mulgrew?
▶ 94d930 (2) No.21082
>>21055
I don't think Beltran hated her, but her being the replacement for an actress he apparently wanted to work with (and who was the main reason he accepted the role) was just the first of many things that would make him hate the show and its production over the years.
There are still rumours that Mulgrew and Beltran had a short affair during VOY's run, before she got married to husband number whatever
▶ ec5ab5 (2) No.21095
>>20970
>ten, ten episodes you listed
>ah ah ah!
Yeaaaah no. That still leaves an ocean of dross and the fact that unlike DS9, they never fucking built on those. And no, the Species 8479 plot didn't go further than some half-assed infiltration plan, so that's more making a quarter of a house on the foundations, then leaving it to rot.
▶ f0d12b (1) No.21097
TOS for originality
TNG for bringing the franchise into modernity
DS9 for storytelling
VOY for borg tits and ass
ENT sucked and is completely unmemorable in every way
▶ 0d38ea (2) No.21134>>21255
>>1822
Spock's Brain is one of my favorite episodes.
▶ 5d75e3 (1) No.21255
>>21134
I know spankanon is around this board but if you are deliberately dropping you pants and wiggling your butt isn't the best way to ask for a spanking.
▶ 46be25 (2) No.27242
>>1775 (OP)
When I was 13 I would have said TNG easily.
As a 31 year old I stand by DS9.
This should go without saying, but don't pick a series unless you actually watched every episode of TOS, TNG, DS9, VOY and ENT.
I asked a friend of mine which he thought was best and he said TOS even though he's only seen 4 episodes of TOS, 2 of the nu-Trek movies, and all of TNG. When I asked him why he said because "It came first." and because "Kirk is cooler than Picard." I wish I could make this shit up.
▶ 46be25 (2) No.27245