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Garak or Dukat Anonymous 02/01/18 (Thu) 01:26:50 cd0fcc No.17561

ive got to know /strek is it Garak or Dukat for greatest cardassian?

Anonymous 02/01/18 (Thu) 01:34:37 f0e088 No.17563

>>17561

Garak is best supporting character

Dukat is best villain.

Anonymous 02/01/18 (Thu) 01:51:32 533304 No.17568

>>17563

>Dukat is best villain

Don't you mean hero? :^)

Anonymous 02/01/18 (Thu) 02:13:30 aac930 No.17572

>>17568

He became a literal satan Anon.

Anonymous 02/01/18 (Thu) 02:17:37 1fd161 No.17573

>>17561

But OP all Cardassians are shit compared to the Ferengi master race

>>17568

As much as I like to think otherwise, the fact is the writers made it quite clear that they wanted Dukat to just be plain evil, especially near the end.

Anonymous 02/01/18 (Thu) 09:18:50 9e53c6 No.17593

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>>17573

>they wanted Dukat to just be plain evil

>Be Ira Steven Behr

>Start writing your show

>Create the perfect foil for your protagonist

>He's intelligent, witty, charming, and determined yet also vulnerable and humanised on several occasions.

>Be surprised when a number of the fans start sympathising with this charming, intelligent, driven and likeable character you have created.

>Have this character join the Dominion to try and tell everyone that they may not enjoy the villain more than your OCDONUTSTEEL captain

>Fans don't care

>Kill Dukats daughter, turn him insane

>Turn Dukat into literal cult leader cucking his followers and enjoying his dream of living in a Bajoran whore-house.

>Fans forgive Dukat, a weakness for bajoran women was one of his few character flaws, and everyone needs to grieve - however unhealthy his process might be it's helping him.

>Get increasingly butthurt,

>"But dukat is a spess narzee! WHY DO THEY LIKE HIM!??!?!?!?!"

>"It must be because I haven't made him evil enough yet, Ira you're a gerniurs!"

>Turn Dukat into 'literally space satan'

>Have your protagonist lock him away forever.

>Fans call you a dick and start creating memes & fanfic where Gul Dukat did nothing wrong.

Anonymous 02/02/18 (Fri) 02:17:15 e0f5de No.17651

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The question is illogical.

Anonymous 02/02/18 (Fri) 05:16:52 9f27d8 No.17665

Garak. Dukat is a cuck so thirsty for Bajoran pussy that he betrayed his family.

Anonymous 02/02/18 (Fri) 05:18:30 9f27d8 No.17667

>>17573

>Ferengi

>master race

To the >>>/oven/ with you, Kike!

Anonymous 02/02/18 (Fri) 05:55:06 d61602 No.17670

>>17665

>cuck

Wrong word. You mean gigolo.

Anonymous 02/02/18 (Fri) 05:59:08 6c6074 No.17671

>>17573

Yeah but have you ever stopped to really say 'Hey, fuck the writers.'? I mean, that's the kind of response the situation calls for.

Anonymous 02/02/18 (Fri) 06:22:49 c83b10 No.17672

>>17671

Is there a series whose fans are forced to say 'Hey, fuck the writers' more often than Star Trek?

Anonymous 02/02/18 (Fri) 06:30:51 d61602 No.17673

>>17672

Well, /strek/ says it with great frequency, /sw/ says it with great passion.

Anonymous 02/02/18 (Fri) 13:39:55 1b0c89 No.17686

>>17651

This man speaks the truth. Damar was the secret best Cardassian. Of course, between the two it was obviously Garak.

Anonymous 02/02/18 (Fri) 21:27:44 5c3d18 No.17700

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>>17561

<people actually shilling for Garak

>often cowardly; when things get tough, Garak runs and hides

>his greatest achievement in life was assassinating a guy no one remembers

>lies about everything, even lies about his lies; assumes that being the most duplicitous snake in the quadrant makes him charming

>claims to love Cardassia, then commits multiple acts of treason against it

>his dad, who knew him better than anyone, was terribly ashamed of him

>couldn't attract real Cardassian women, had to chase after a mixed-race teenager

>even then, he only did it to piss off Dukat, who he hated out of jealousy (Dukat was loved and respected by his people, Garak was a traitor)

>whenever he is asked about his exile, he pretends to be a unfortunate victim of circumstance; in all likelihood, he probably got caught fucking over the wrong guy and suffered the consequences

He was a good character, but he was a terrible Cardassian. Dukat was superior in every way. He was a better Cardassian, as well as a deeper, more relate-able, and more enjoyable character. Garak is a fun side-character, Dukat was a legend.

Anonymous 02/04/18 (Sun) 13:53:42 092d85 No.17847

>>17651

>Be Damar

>Follow happily Dukat, your mentor, the man you would gladly die for, bring Cardassia from the brink of defeat and make it great again

>Believe that victory was near only for it to be snatched away by unbelievable bullshit

>See your mentor's daughter for the traitor she really is and try to rescue him from his slide into despair and madness

>Fail and end up having to take his place as the leader of the Cardassian people

>Come to the realization you are little more than a Dominion puppet with very little say

>Watch helplessly as your Cardassians are marched off to slaughter

>Only thing you end up looking forward to each day is a bottle of kanar and finding ways to kill an endless supply of Weyoun clones

>Spend the next 2 years essentially depressed and single handle keep the Kanar industry in business

>Finally lose your shit when Breen come into the play and realize your people have been conquered without any shots being fired

>Decide to rebel against the Dominion even at a point when it looked like they were going to win, knowing if you don't your people would be screwed in the long run

>Lose everything you once had resisting, including closest friends and family

>Be betrayed by a comrade and lose resistance

>Unwittingly become an almost godlike symbol of the Cardassian people who refuse to acknowledge you were dead

>Spur up spirit of the Cardassian people in their darkest hour, die storming the central command for Cardassia, die not exactly sure what the people saw in you but happy to know you did your duty for Cardassia

He really was an underrated character.

Anonymous 02/08/18 (Thu) 13:16:24 32ddfa No.18185

Tain.

Anonymous 02/18/18 (Sun) 16:42:51 55c785 No.18903

The answer is who could you listen to for the rest of your life and would find the most entertaining to listen to?

Anonymous 02/18/18 (Sun) 16:45:10 794a82 No.18906

>>18903

That's a tough answer, because all Cardassians are rag chewing wordy fuckers.

Anonymous 02/18/18 (Sun) 16:56:49 9f60ea No.18909

>>18906

Imagine being at a Cardassian equivalent of a Senate/Parliament where each member is giving off a speech? Could you imagine the eargasm?

Anonymous 02/18/18 (Sun) 18:19:59 50c3c4 No.18936

GUL DUKAT 2020

Anonymous 02/23/18 (Fri) 19:35:36 e3d170 No.19416

I would like to have seen The "dispassionate historical perspective" speech Garak gave at that conference. I would fic it, but I don't have time to do the research.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZKHKDGQ7co

Anonymous 02/23/18 (Fri) 19:59:52 1959ad No.19418

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>>17561

>greatest cardassian

<not Aamin Marritza

Anonymous 02/23/18 (Fri) 20:29:35 46a698 No.19419

>>19416

It was probably a more eloquent version of that analysis the maplebro did, proving that the Occuhoax was less deadly than the sniffles.

Anonymous 02/23/18 (Fri) 20:37:46 040f55 No.19420

>>19418

Marritza was a cuck. He worked for a great man and hero of Cardassia.

Anonymous 02/24/18 (Sat) 18:30:08 f1fd56 No.19467

>>19418

The guy he was pretending to be was infinitely superior.

Anonymous 02/25/18 (Sun) 02:26:55 858503 No.19496

>>19467

We don’t really know anything about him. Marritza was doubtless doing a caricature of him, and being a file clerk there’s no telling what the difference was between what he thought was happening and what was actually happening. I find it hard to imagine his quarters were near where they kept starving bajorans and he could heard them crying out at night. I think he hallucinated a lot of it and had a mental illness. Gul Dar’Heel was probably the Cardassian equivalent of a Jellico - a hardass who took a harder line than the normal Cardassian officer, but still not some mass executioner.

Anonymous 02/26/18 (Mon) 11:50:32 e9dc38 No.19598

>>19496

>>19467

He was a lesser man who was good at playing a greater man that gullible Bajorans ate up. In the end all he did was play Gul Dar'Heel and Cardassians right as Bajoran Barbarians murdered an innocent man who clearly had mental health issues in cold blood as it was clear Bajorans do not think like sentient beings, only like animals.