/strek/ - Star Trek ★

Setup post TMP and pre TNG telling the tale of K'mpec's rise to power and how he sorted out the shitshow that would have been the Klingon Empire.

Or Garak post Dominion War.

>>1576

K'mpec was not the bravest nor strongest of Klingons, in fact he came from a rather poor House. What he was, was one of the smartest. Be interesting seeing him getting the feuding Klingon Houses to fight for his interests.

Garak having to go oldschool Obsidian Order on everyone's ass would be impressive. Could even do a more detective type series for it.

Post-ENT. The show would follow the crew of a warship from Starfleet (a mix of Section 31 and MACO) during the Romulan wars. 50% war and 50% political shit.

>>1578

>Star Trek Andromeda

Kek, will there be legos?

>>1579

Forgot to add this but Section 31 didn't officially exist until after the Earth-Romulan Wars when teh Federation was formedthe wars incidentally were going to be Enterprise's Season 6-7 plots with 4-5 leading up to it

>>1582

The entire crew should be autistic and their ship should be made of lego bricks.

The series is in the format of TOS where there really isn't a plot but each episode is it's own thing of them exploring random planets and species, super comfy.

>>1578

>>1592

The problem with a post-TNG setting would be the technological progress that is supposed to happen in between

How would you create a convincing technological gap after all the shit we've seen in the TNG era?

I think it's funny how you dickwaddles think that Discovery would have been any good in the first place. Major TV networks are not going to respect the franchise and all we're going to get is some tumblr-politics-influenced piece of feminazi bullshit series mostly inspired by JJ Asshat's version of Star Trek.

>>1624

Federation post Nemesis wouldn't know what to do with itself. They would have to face a rebuilding and resentful Cardassia. The former Maquis colonies would be in open revolt or close to open revolt. There would be a lot of citizens likely protesting the more militarized Starfleet which came about as a result of the Dominion War. They would be dancing with the Romulans while also trying to leapfrog technology due to Janeway letting the Borg adapt to their anti-Borg tech. Then there is also the potential for a Species 8472 Incursion and infiltration which would replace the threat of the Borg as enemy number one. There would also be countless other minor powers testing the waters to see if they could annex a system or two from the Federation. The only thing they wouldn't have to worry about would be the Klingons since they would be too busy rebuilding and partying over the victory over the Dominion.

In short the Federation would be in a fucked state and unstable, potentially facing a collapse.

>>1621

>How would you create a convincing technological gap after all the shit we've seen in the TNG era?

1. There's NEVER been a convincing tech gap in Star Trek between the generations.

2. I already stated the CMO was a second generation Soong-android. Otherwise, the various writers on the series would introduce little innovations as it went on. Maybe the replicators can be upgraded to table-top models.

My idea was that it wouldn't be too far in the future from Nemesis, so the advancements would be 10-20 years after. Granted, that's a long time in tech development, but, like printers in our era, there comes a point where improvements are tiny once you've reached the pinnacle of a device's usefulness.

>>1635

>There would be a lot of citizens likely protesting the more militarized Starfleet which came about as a result of the Dominion War.

Cisco up against a war crimes tribunal wouldn't be a bad idea, considering all the slimy shit he pulled trying to get the Romulans involved.

>>1654

But that would be covered up anon.

>>1576

>emphasis on traditional male and female roles

Klingon women participate in battle, don't they? Aren't they just as violent and aggressive as the males? That's fundamentally antithetical to traditional male and female roles. Hell, that's the primary reason those roles exist. And their reproduction can't be that different from humans, so what drives those differences is still the same. Klingon women are still acting in defiance of nature and of the survival of their species by participating in combat when it is not absolutely necessary.

>>1578

>a one galaxy government

No. No no no. No! The stars are the last hope for freedom, and you're blanketing entire galaxies with governments? Fuck that. Try that move and I'm phasing into a different timeline without that gay shit and leaving a galaxy-wide cloud of exploded omega molecules in my wake.

>>1584

The series finale is just a reveal that they're all 13 years old and they've been playing Minecraft the whole time.

>>1592

Yes.

>>2086

Shut up Wesley!

>>2101

Klingon women are more likely to rape their opponents than males.

>>1577

>Garak having to go oldschool Obsidian Order on everyone's ass would be impressive. Could even do a more detective type series for it.

I'm now picturing a series following an obsidian order operative, with each season detailing one mission set somewhere in the alpha quadrant.

>First season, Bajoran counter-insurgency work (pre-withdrawal of course), a young Cardassian learns that Dukat did nothing wrong

>Second season, simultaenously running guns to Cardassian colonists while trying to stop the federation running guns to the Maquis.

>Third season, not sure if this should be against the Tal Shiar or Section 31. S31 follows more closely from season 2 and would be a hell of a story uncovering the non-existent agency, but who doesn't want to watch the Obsidian Order lock horns with the finest agents the Romulans can provide?

>Fourth season would have to be the main characters (operatives and a few support staff) going rogue after the rise of the Dominion, because those Changlings, Vorta, Breen, and Jem hadar stand in the way of GLORIOUS CARDASSIA!

If nothing else it would be fascinating to run through the setting from a non-federation, non-human, perspective.

>>2138

>Season

Fuck this long-arc storytelling. Star Trek should be reset button or nothing. Those "seasons" should be a linked set of two-parters at best, maybe with some single episodes in between.

>>2101

>No. No no no. No! The stars are the last hope for freedom, and you're blanketing entire galaxies with governments? Fuck that

As the new galaxy is discovered different powers from ours start competing to explore it and extend their power over it, creating a climate of "galaxy race"

Sounds better?

>>2161

Bashir forming up with Garak and the last of the Obsidian Order to take down Section 31 would have been interesting.

>>2162

>Fuck this long-arc storytelling.

I'm with the fuck the 20-episode seasons crowd, when they are that long they suffer both from lack of polish of scripts and content and lack production values, and then filler episodes.

>>2138

I had in mind 10-episode seasons, 50-60 minutes, commercial free on a premium network that would allow me to slaughter the crew grisly, and have lots of rapey sexual exploration between the various states of the ship and the hostage crew. Those medical experiments would be pretty gore. This would not be your dad's Star Trek.

If I didn't feel like I had enough for the 10-episodes, I'd pad it out with Ferengi sitcom and a green tits.

>>2173

>Section 31

That whole S31 bullshit always leaves a bad taste in my mouth. The thought of a shadow agency within Starfleet goes against the entire idea of there being any hope for Man. The fact that they retconned it to being there all along just makes it worse.

>>2193

>The fact that they retconned it to being there all along just makes it worse.

I can agree with that, it would have been a much more interesting plot if they had been a relatively new group, set up by Admiral Layton as the grown up version of Red Squad. Or, they could have really emphasised the threat of the Dominion/Founders by having S31 be an entirely new, official but secret, organisation to counter threats that Starfleet couldn't handle within their rules.

>>2193

Section 31 proves that Starfleet's commie dream doesn't work. They can be proud of their safe space but at the end of the day they need people who get the job done.

>>2193

>>2211

>>2236

It could have been written so much better and felt like an organization that should have been wiped out by Cardassian Tailor with a Flight Plan.

>>2268

That couldn't happen, the Federation are in charge on ds9

>>2452

>the Federation are in charge on ds9

Bajoran space station, Odo enforces Bajoran regulations. Federation administrates at the Bajoran's request.

>>2453

Well congratulations, you corrected me. What's the next step in your master plan?

>>2454

>What's the next step in your master plan?

Wait for the next stupid thing you say and correct you?

>>2455

Lotta patience for a volunteer poster

Season 1

New captain is assigned to a BoP after a suitable bit of honourable heroics, just in time for the Klingon-Cardassian war that would latter lead into the Dominion War.

Poor fucker doesn't actually know that much about tactics, strategy or even how to lead others. At the same time, the heroics that got him promoted in the first place has also made him a media darling back home, so there's a lot of pressure to preform.

The second in command of the BoP is an old battlemented vet who tries to teach the kid the ropes before the kids gets everyone killed.

Over the season the crew of the BoP gets a front row seat to an escalating war, shifting internal politics of the empire, ending with the klingons declaring war on the federation and the Captain now having to reconcile turning on old comrades he had saved only months earlier by cardassian attacks. During the finale, a large scale assault on a fortified Cardassian outpost, the captain and the crew beam down to join a large boarding action in the station, only for cardassian reinforcements to arrive and destroy their ship with the XO still on it along with half the crew. In the end they win, but at a bloody cost.

Season 2

Assigned a new ship, a big Vor'cha with even more people under his command, the captain is quickly thrown into the frontlines of the war again.

The new crew isn't all klingons though. Its a mix of many different races fighting for the klingons as a klingon version of the french foreign legion. All the different officers from different races have their own ideas, military doctrines and tactics they prefer, forcing the captain to try to knit this hodgepodge into a crew who can fight as one.

This allows the show to explore not only many different reasons for why soldiers fight in wars, but also many different ways they do so. From former Maquis, who prefer ambushes and covert operations to head on assaults, to Nausicaans who are only to happy to throw honor and glory to the curb to get results, relying on far more modern tactics, maybe even ferengi mercenaries who are in the trade to make money, relying of fancy gadgets and dirty tricks with a minimum of risking their own hides in the process.

Inevitably there's going to be a lot of friction between the members of the crew and their differing viewpoints and methods clash.

By the end of the season, the shit well and truely hits the fan, as the Cardasians join the Dominion and the latter kick off the Domion War in earnest. The crew and their ship only narrowly survive their first encounter with the JemHadar due to the captain having learned other ways of fighting than the klingon way from the crew.

Season 3

The war with the federation ends and suddenly the crew has to fight along old enemies. The war goes badly as the current generation of feddies have next to no experience as soldiers and a poorly drilled and prepared for a war, while the klingon forces are already bloodied from fighting the Cardassians.

Eventually Captain is tasked with leading a taskforce made up of a mix of Klingon, feddie, rommie (as they join the war) and anyone else who will fight against the Dominion, including a captain and galor from the Obsidian Order who has been a recurring baddie since season 1.

Season 4 onward

The series keeps going until the dominion war ends, exploring the conflict and battles fought during the war from the standpoint of someone caught in the trenches rather than distanced overview most of DS9 tried to provide. The tone should be darker and grittier than that of DS 9. Crew turnover should be high. Some hang on for the long haul, others are killed, snap under pressure or defect. Klingon tactics of charging the enemy head on with batleth's and knives should quickly give way to something closer to IRL military tactics, with automatic weapons, laying down suppressing fire. Lots of hightech gadgets, drones (used by the ferengi so they don't have to risk their own hides).

The idea isn't just to show klingons being stereotypical klingons, but to show them reconciling the ideals of glory and honour, with the pragmatic reality of not getting yourself killed pointlessly during an increasingly desperate war. As a bonus it allows the guys who prefer highbrow intellectual stuff to explore the federation from a PoV that the show hasn't done much to show, the outsiders perspective of what the federation does, for good and bad.

Presumably much of this could also work well with a Cardassian crew of Obsidian Order guys who barely survive the order getting wiped out and have to join their old enemies, since they are the only ones fighting their new enemies.

>>2500

>Bajor does join the Federation and Kira is in Starfleet with an adjusted rank of Commander instead of the Lt. Colonel instead of the Lt. Colonel she was supposed to be at that time

In terms of Marines/Army to Navy/Coast Guard in the United States armed forces:

Lt. 2nd Class is equivalent of Ensign (O-1)

Lt. 1st Class is equivalent Lt. 2nd Class (O-2)

Captain is equivalent of Lt. 1st Class (O-3)

Major is equvialent rank to Lt. Commander (O-4)

Lt. Colonel is equvialent to rank Commander (O-5)

Colonel is equivalent to rank Captain (O-6)

Also, Kira was primarily given the Starfleet status to legitimize her as a Federation consultant to the Cardassian rebels, given she was Bajoran terrorist in their eyes.

>>1568 (OP)

Basically it's DS9 part two. With however much time has passed in the real world having passed in the Star Trek Timeline. Sisko comes back is heralded much the same as before and creates new problems for a stabilized and ever modernizing Bajoran society.

Julian's long term hologram is the doctor for the station, defiant, and whatever else is needed as he can replicate and has a remote projection unit like the Voyager doc.

Kira's still cunting about she's officially in charge of the station, but a new "captain" or administrator has just been sent over whose basically a glorified liaison and titular captain of the defiant ii. I imagine this character as being sort of bumbling.

I think it would be funny as well to have Wesley Crusher, now a captain be a recurring character but he's lost his fucking marbles. I couldn't help but think in rewatching TNG lately that Shia Lebouf and Wil Wheaton weren't too dissimilar looking at that age and I couldn't get the idea out of my head of a broken Wesley shipped off to some meaningless corner of the Alpha quadrant pissed off and making his own alcohol in some replicated still down in a cargo bay.

As for an over arching story the idea would be that the Vulcan's and Romulans at the highest echelons actually work together and have been doing so for quite some time. The Vulcans basically use the Romulans to foment division among other space faring societies, play the nice guys from both sides testing out new technologies etc. How exactly it all would come to a head I don't know. I picture Crusher having a mostly andorrian crew filling his head full of anti-vulcan propaganda and he just loses it starts dropping red pills with his hax wesley powers and goes in somewhere guns blazing. Sisko would have premonitions of all this but he's kind of too far gone from being in prophetland for ten plus years and his status vis a vis the federation and bajorans is just too murky for him to have any real political influence other than just being a prophet to zealots.

>>2528

>Sisko comes back

No, just no. Maybe Jake drops by from time to time to do annoying "here's Jake" bits. Ben has retired to eating shrooms and living in a mudhutt on Bajor.

>I think it would be funny as well to have Wesley Crusher

No, just fuck no. Get out.

>but he's lost his fucking marbles.

Well, you nailed that one.

>I couldn't get the idea out of my head of a broken Wesley shipped off to some meaningless corner of the Alpha quadrant

<I couldn't get the idea out of my head of a broken Wil Wheaton shipped off to some meaningless corner of the Internet

u/wil at plebbit

Wil reply to posts praising him and Wil mention how they have brightened his day and how hard the struggle with his depression is going.

>I picture Crusher having a mostly andorrian crew filling his head full of anti-vulcan propaganda and he just loses it starts dropping red pills with his hax wesley powers and goes in somewhere guns blazing.

Wil is a Drumpf'r gobbling bluepills like they were Zoloft.

Star Trek Anime

>>2594

>As much as I hate to admit, I understand how he feels. With hardcore depression, you'd be surprised how much that sort of thing can mean to a person.

Yeah, I took some for a while too. I think my depression stemmed from thinking I still had a shot at something I wasn't living up to and that drained me, but then I got redpilled and figured out Jews run everything and I never really had a shot of obtaining anything with my recently demoted white privilege anyway. Haven't needed the pills since.

For a has been actor that peaked in earn teens, I imagine that is multiplied by an order of magnitude, especially when the role you're best known for is a meme for Internet autists.

>>2500

>Why call it Deep Space 9 like it's a Fed base if it's really a Bajoran one? Why not call it Prophet Station or something?

I always saw that as further evidence that the Feds were being giant, holier than thou, pricks to the Bajorans in spite of muh 60 bajillion.

>Don't worry, you'll join our club that's definitely not an Empire despite you being required to follow our rules and contribute to our military.

>What's that, you don't want to join? Well, we run the closest thing you have to a military installation, and it's loaded with photon torpedoes and just hanging there in orbit with an easy shot on each of your cities.

>We also have the ability to close off access to the wormhole that's the only thing making your economy vaguely solvent.

>You'll join, just give it a while, you're not dumb enough to say no twice.

>>2500

They were ripping off Babylon 5 in a cheeky way,

>>2661

There was a lot of controversy over that at one point.

Here's mine. Huge colony located on a moon of a gas giant. in the 'summer' it gets extreamly hot and humid and when the moon moves in the shadow of the planet it's orbiting there's a long very cold winter. The colony does bio-research and mines minerals, produces raw material and builds shuttlecrafts. Also has some kind of rest pit for visitors that are constantly changing, maybe also an exotic market place. Shouldn't be difficult to keep the serie fresh with all that going on. The moon surface has huge ancient cave systems below surface with relics and ruins, maybe even some alien in cryo sleep that will become part of the crew. Post Voyager just when they're starting to mess with time travel. The colony is important to Starfleet for its strategic location near romulan space and after some mystery accident starfleet takes over security, story is about that bunch. They will uncover what happened with the accident before, romulan plots and the mysterious ruins below.

>>5816

>Aliens not awakening and killing everyone there

Stopped reading.

>>5817

yeah well maybe that was the accident from before. Maybe everyone had disappeared and it's the mystery.

>>2502

You ever see 'We Were Soldiers?' Apparently Basil L. Plumley is the real life version of that.

>>2691

>>2815

I've never seen Babylon 5 nor DS9, but I have a friend that always says that DS9 really hit its stride when it stopped trying to copy Babylon 5.

>>5850

In the beginning he says something along the lines of, "I'd don't like these new M16's. I'd rather just let them get close and shoot them with my pistol."

Later in the movie we see him doing exactly that like a total badass. How accurate it is to the real battle of La Drang I don't know, but if you read the guy's wikipedia page it's definitely believable.

Also it's just a badass Mel Gibson movie.

>>6469

>To add on more to what OP was asking I would try to keep the plots more self-contained within episodes but with many references to previous canon,

For all the cancer, Doctor Who had a good way to deal with things. Teasing the Big Bad here and there in two minute increments within self-contained episodes building up to the season finale.

considering how many MANY years I fantasized about being captain of my own star ship, I will skip actually trying to describe my dream show and just say this:

star trek's formula is in a rut. voyager and enterprise proved this, the latest movies proved this, the new show will probably double down on this. it's why I love and respect ds9 so much, but one thing is for certain, the franchise needs to adapt. it needs to recognize what works and what doesn't. making your captain female and having everyone always agree with her does not work, it's just terrible storytelling and will even drive away your most feminazi followers. having the crew shout technobabble and shield percentage numbers in the place of action or drama is a mistake, the biggest nerds will go fact check your science only to find that it's bullshit and everyone else will be put to sleep from sheer boredom.

star trek revolutionized how both sci fi and drama were made, but that was decades ago, and the entertainment industry has caught up. star trek needs to get better if it's ever going to be relevant again. enforced diversity quotas are not relevance, dry technical nonsense in place of a story or plot are not engaging.

but that's just my opinion, etc.

>>6482

My idea would be a colony on the frontier. They are in the Federation's 'moneyless' system which is just central planning. Shortages and delays are common. They are expected to extract massive amounts of resources to send back to earth, so most of their time mining is spent to keep earth a paradise. Many of the miners are incentivized by the promise of being allowed to return to earth (exile from earth for infractions is common) after a stint there.

The main character is the colony's governor. He and a small group are religious and left Earth due to its massive intolerance for anything remotely theist. His goal is to create a thriving colony, but there are clashes between the 'pilgrims' and the 'mercenaries' and the colony is basically two camps. He needs to deal on the black market with Ferengi traders, Orion pirates, and other colonies to get the supplies he needs. He clashes with the miners frequently, as their major goal is to extract resources to buy back into Earth and they don't give a damn about the colony beyond that.

The story would basically be about the running of the colony, with Starfleet as an antagonistic organizations which demands resources or siezes shipments. Basically the explorers are the best and brightest who believe in the ideals to make first contact but the rest are pretty dickish and superior.

>>6490

You know, your idea is actually quite similar to one I've had - one that's mainly centered on the frontier at the edge of known space.

The series would start about 30 years after Nemesis. During that time many humans in the Federation become 'Espers' - highly evoled humans that possess some telepathy, telekenesis, and high intelligence (inspired from the TOS episode "Charlie-X"). The cause of this is an alien virus which awakens these dormant abilities in qualified humans. It is not known exactly what enables some to become Espers and others can't, but it seems to depend on some combination of bloodlines and IQ. Aliens don't become Espers.

Anyway the Espers eventually become numerous enough to challenge the Federation. Because of envy on the part of the humans, and ambition on the part of the Espers, a war breaks out that devastates many Federation worlds.

Eventually the Espers lose the war because they are simply outgunned. As part of the peace treaty the Espers are all settled on uninhabited worlds on the mostly unexplored frontier. Because these planets are still officially 'protectorates' of the Federation, a starship is assigned to the region to prevent the Klingons/Romulans/Cardssians from encroaching on the area. The series will mainly follow the happenings on this ship and also the Espers on the colonies. An Esper liason will be assigned as a bridge officer on the ship.

As the series progrees the Espers build their own fleets and military, and Starfleet begins courting their support because at this point the Federation is rife with rebellions as the result of the destruction from the Esper wars (it is their "Crisis of the Third Century") - they need allies to defend themselves from the other Empires.

The other Empires aren't doing so great either. The Klingon Empire as we know it no longer exists - the Klingons being divided into several warring states led by warlords - think "Romance of the Three Kingdoms". I guess Romulus was supposed to be destroyed so the Romulans are fucked for awhile. Cardassia needed time to rebuild but now they are an emerging threat. The (((Ferengi))) have a monopoly on holosuite IP. It's a real unstable time for the entire Alpha quadrant.

Ok I think I'm done sperging - I'm enjoying the ideas here though.

>>6490

>religious community

>dealing with smugglers and pirates

>picking fights with mercenaries and miners

Sounds like they left due to people calling them out on their obviously less-than-pious behavior. Also the Federation uses holograms and autonomous extraction machines to do the mining. The most people do is head underground to plant survey scanners and shit.

And in any case why would the miners be incentivized to work by the promise of heading back to earth? With replicators any colony is paradise. No one has a major pull back to earth in the tv shows. They're always loyal to their colony/settlement.

And the role you've put Starfleet in isn't how they'd handle the situation at all.

AND THE FEDERATION HAS MONEY. STOP PERPETUATING THIS STUPID MEME.

This sounds like an original IP, not Star Trek.

>>6493

>The series would start about 30 years after Nemesis. During that time many humans in the Federation become 'Espers' - highly evoled humans that possess some telepathy, telekenesis, and high intelligence

>Aliens don't become Espers

Right off the bat I view this as worse than STD. This is dumb. Humans cannot evolve that much in 30 years, and if they can then aliens would be able to as well. This is really dumb. Much like the other guy this doesn't sound remotely like Star Trek. This sounds like an original IP, or a sequel to Stargate. Not even going to both to read the rest it seems so dumb to me.

If you're going to design a Star Trek show make it a Star Trek show, not your attempt to use Star Trek to get your own original show out there.

>>1568 (OP)

A lot of people forget that Slipstream tech from Voyager originally only required Deflector shield fuckery to follow the spehss alium.

Set the new series when that tech has proliferated. Fuck Warp Drive, we cross Galaxy in 1 year or less now.

Oh but the Federation is surrounded by bump into Empires, Nations, Kingdoms, Confederates, Conglomerates and such. Little to no exploring. Borders have been found.

And it turns out that the Romulans have slightly better Slipstream tech and wobble wobble.

>>2193

Dude, its literally just a bylaw that states "Do what must be done"

>>2193

They're an illegal entity separate from the Federation but which some higher-ups are clearly OK with. It's not like they have an office in the Federation HQ. that's not how black ops work.

>>6487

Fuck yes.

I would keep everything the same with stories of morality and conflict, but add.. let's say a race at least, that uses swords made of light.

>>6556

Fuck that map and every map like it. There is no way the Romulans wouldnt have responded with even more wars over that nonsense

>>6559

>Fuck that map and every map like it. There is no way the Romulans wouldnt have responded with even more wars over that nonsense

*I only included it to illustrate the fallacy of the concept that space has been explored, not to suggest any canonical accuracy.

>>6559

I think you're underestimating how many solar systems there is in that space. That's probably like a hundred million stars and associated systems. Their interest is more being dominant rather than being large, and they have more than enough to do that.

>>6556

Oh I have no doubt it's highly exaggerated. It's Hollywood. The truth is often too boring for them. It's still a good movie.

>>12252

you're right. They should start working on the plot. Instead of turning it into the latest Ghostbuster flop. At least they made Michael straight.

>>12252

If dykes don't repulse you, you haven't been exposed to actual dykes.

>>12254

I don't know, but I have had a tuna salad before

>>12254

>If dykes don't repulse you, you haven't been exposed to actual dykes.

I know dykes, some even in the family, but women making out on tv are never actual dykes.

All women are inherently bisexual anyways, it's a evolutionary trait for female cohabitation in polygamous family units. We simply deny them that in a patriarchal monogamous society.

>>1568 (OP)

>Star Trek DIscovery gets suddenly cancelled

Holy shit for real?

>Describe your new series, please describe

Why did you have to ruin my erection like that. Alright since I'm shitposting anyway.

Timeline: no JewJew-verse. Eugenic Wars the Series, or that wild and crazy time period of Cochrane. If that is too bleak, create a whole other parallel timeline somewere in between DS9 and Voyager, focusing on harsh planetary settlements. ST:Frontier. A weird spaghetti western + Deadwood + Moebius art style. Give me pulpy stories of rogue Feds with lever action phaser rifles and six coil shooters trying to civilize some backwater section of the galaxy without monologuing the Prime Directive every 10 minutes. But show the consequences of trying to uphold it or applying it or not applying it.

Or just make Swoleverse the Series a reality.

If Discovery is canceled? Would that be the end for the franchise? I would like to see the theme/plot change on Discovery.

>>12274

Discovery is the end of the franchise. Star Trek is already dead.

>>12257

>All women are inherently bisexual anyways

This is stupid kike nonsense. For most of history men found the idea of women fucking each other unnatural and disgusting. It’s only because Jews reprogrammed your brain with porn that you think differently, because porn is unnatural.

A man’s wives fucking would have been viewed correctly as a threat to his position, and in polygamous cultures men never slept with more than one wife at a time. Two wives fucking would be adultery, as they aren’t married to each other. It’s only because you watch porn that you come to appreciate the absence of a man in a virtual cuckold scene and think men of other times would do the same.

>>12268

>just make Swoleverse the Series a reality.

Swoleverse would be fucking awesome.

>intrigue

>violence

>at least twenty minutes of lifting montage every episode.

>>12257

>Dykes in the family

>Hasn't disowned them

Gas yourself.

>>12318

just replace the piano with brass and that's pretty much exactly what Swole Trek montage score circa 1990 would sound like

>>12310

>This is stupid kike nonsense. For most of history men found the idea of women fucking each other unnatural and disgusting. It’s only because Jews reprogrammed your brain with porn that you think differently, because porn is unnatural.

Women always claim to be straight right up until the moment they start making out with each other to entertain or tease men.

Women also derive sexual pleasure and equate emotional attachments to animals as viable substitutes for men at a much higher rate than men engage in bestiality. There's far more bestiality porn production from women than the actual demand from men to view such material.

>>1578

>The Federation is heading the project, and the captain is Human as a result.

Stop.

>>2180

>10-episode seasons

Fuck off, HBWhore.

>>6465

> Finding lost Klingon temples deep within the jungle of Qo'nos

This is both offensive and stupid. The Klingons have been insterstellar for millennia, and civilized for tens of millenia before that.

>>6490

>They are expected to extract massive amounts of resources to send back to earth

>Earth

Again, one thing the annoys the shit out of me is not only the Human centric crap in Star Trek, but the Earth centric crap. The fuck is this shit?

One thing I would do is establish, for every core species, the idea of having home colony worlds, so that the loss of the homeworld is not a threat to the species, because its fucking stupid.

>>12332

Earth is the Feddie capital, yes?

>>12331

Why would that mean no lost temples?

>>12325

> There's far more bestiality porn production from women

There you go again. Stop using porn as a metric for reality. Porn is Jewish mind control explicitly created to destroy white civilization.

>>12340

Go back to your containment thread, Uncle /pol/.

>>12342

GTFO kike. We call it pol/strek/ for a reason.

>>12348

Who's "we," paleface?

Aaand now the thread is derailed. Are you happy? Are you satisfied?

>>12355

you know where you are, you know what you started.

>>12359

>>12360

Just my luck. Being too tired not to bite.

>started

Oh hell no. I'm in the '"Dukat' did nothing wrong" Club. And it was a (1) who started this silliness.

>>12342

>>>lefty/startrek/

>>12409

Isn't that kinda redundant?

>>12342

Fuck off Jew.

>>12361

We have IDs here, dipshit.

>>12479

And? All I see is a thread derailed because someone couldn't keep their offtopic autism to themselves.

>>12301

Nooooooooooooo

>>12489

Yeah, you. What happened is you don’t like being told porn has made you a retard and you got triggered.

>>12714

Which was still off-topic. You all still lose and this conversation is still pointless.

>>12714

>porn has made you a retard

on the contrary, it's been quite educational on the sheer number of women when told to get a job by their parents, decide fucking a bunching of blacks is an acceptable career choice, like Tori Black; or upon finishing her Bachelor's degree and losing her virginity the final year of college, decided "to make up for lost time" and use porn to get dick like Casey Calvert; reality is porn defines the average woman more than they would like to admit, they're the most hypocritical gender and beyond the subtle differences of morality they wear on the surface, they are all cut from the same cloth - if you're a man and you can't see that you're hopelessly bluepilled as fuck

>>12717

>lists porn stars

>you are bluepilled

Dude, you watch cuckold porn. Stop.

>>2500

To be fair, without the (((federation))) the bajorians would be steamrolled by the Cardassian as soon as the Federation left.

>>12717

>I watch enough porn to have knowledge of individual sluts involved in it

>I am capable of having insight in anything worth sharing

I'm just going to give you the benefit of doubt and assume you just made up those names for this bait.

So after fucking up the Mirror Universe, how would you fix CIScovery for a Mirror Universe series?

>>2452

Do they feel in charge?

>>2560

That's actually a good idea. That would allow you to do a lot of the wackier/inefficient things in this thread (like the concern with makeup with a Klingon lead) without seriously messing with the budget.

>>6487

YES

I want to do an episode of Star Trek instead. Set is post-Voyager. The USS Whatever gets sucked into a wormhole into the delta quadrant where on a chance meeting they find Wesley Crusher. Wesley was abandoned by the Traveler and has been making his way home ever since. However, the ship he is on is manned by clones of Wesley. Wesley, being a weak faggot, is in a state of misery. The clones realized what they are and have been keeping him prisoner. They need the original Wesley alive to continue the cloning process because cloning clones eventually breaks down. The clones all develop different personalities too. There is a cool Wesley, a muscular Wesley, a Wesley that smokes, a Wesley that is fat, and several gay Wesleys. The original Wesley tries to escape the ship and back to the Alpha quadrant with the Federation ship but the clones manage to get him back and drive the Federation ship back through the wormhole. Once the Federation ship is gone the clones destroy the wormhole and continue their voyage to wherever leaving Wesley trapped forever and possibly getting raped the entire time.

>>16190

Your personal perverse homosexual fantasies about Wil Wheaton do not make for a good Star Trek episode, Anon.

Star Trek was really good at spinning off plots, every episode had half a dozen.

Id like to see a star trek based before humans had warp. It would be really intensive on mask costs, but it would be interesting.

Or a star trek based on a planet, maybe in the DMZ on a colony being fought over by maquis and cardassians.

>>16254

Humanity before warp could be interesting as long as Zefram Cochrane is the focus.

Star Trek on a planet in a DMZ is just Game of Thrones.

>>16255

Wrong.

GOT is badly written garbage.

Star Trek on a planet (or system) owned by cardassians and maquis could be a small world war, with impulse powered fighters in the skies, and phaser rifles instead of MG42s.

>>16256

That honestly sounds pretty gay.

>>16256

>GOT

Guls of Terok Nor?

I would make an animated series set Post-Voyager. This way I can show things that a tv show can't like fantastic architecture, an entire alien city, and alien crew members. All CG too.

Star Trek: Calamity [Or Cataclysm or Oblivion, take your pick]

Set: Post TNG, in the mid-2400s. Most characters we know are dead (Perhaps apart from say Dax, in whatever form they are in and perhaps Worf; I am not sure how long a Klingon lifetime is outside that there is over 100 year old ones in that episode where J. Dax cracks open some cold ones with the lads) so it will be new people we don't know.

It will be a war series, some transgalactic force is sweeping through the milky way. The first reports are of isolated borg cubes appearing at the edge of various empires; disconnected to the collective. Now we know from the last episode of Voyager and Nemesis that the borg get fucked up badly, but these cubes are different: they aren't overtly hostile…

Now the gamma quadrant is trying to recover from the dominion war, there is a kind of peace in place (like that following WWI in Europe). Some think this is perhaps the return of Species 8472: which was mentioned in the expansive logs of Voyager in her travel through the milky way, but the damage isn't like that. Soon enough, our villains are revealed: a race of sentient robots that seek the end to all organic life in the galaxy. That isn't all though, the great secret is that they are the result of a Vulcan experiment; thus they are devoid of all ethics or emotion and focus purely on their ogical goal of self-survival through galactic domination. For once, the vulcans get blamed with a major fuck up. They started with the borg as they knew they were the greatest threat. We find this out through a series of interaction between Federation, Cardassian and Klingon groups who are all bricking themselves.

That is when they arrive. Towards the edge of the galaxy they start streaming through an artificial wormhole: threatening the alpha and beta quadrants alike. This is when the show begins in earnest.

It would be very BSG in feeling; rugged war drama where the raison d'etre for the join task-force of Federation, Cardassian and Klingon ships is to travel to the wormhole and destroy it. Think of it like Series 3 ENT (where they had a single goal and a military theme about how war makes you do awful things) but better.

Now for chars, I have never been good at that, I will let someone else do it.

>>16267

I've always thought an alien captain was the next logical place to go. Way more interesting than "muh black women".

>>17151

I'd watch the shit out of a show featuring Captain Shran.

>>17089

Captain: Quarter Bajoran, quarter Betazed, half human male that identifies with his human side. Raised on Earth, in Hawaii. Think Daniel Dae Kim with slight nose ridges. Attitude of ShatnerKirk (complete with the skill and tenacity to bed scores of green women), speechmaking and negotiation skills of Picard, spiced with a bit of Hawaiian wisdom a-la Chakotay. The Betazed part is intentionally all-but-useless, as the robots don't have anything for him to sense, and anything other than fellow Betazeds and Humans are too complex for him to get anything more than a vague feeling from.

First Officer/Chief of Security: A seemingly relatively inexperienced young human male, freshly promoted to LCDR. Given the Captain's qualifications, the only reason he's suggested is that he's intentionally overtly familiar with bureaucracy in all its forms. This man can take Red Tape and make it his bitch. Secretly, he was a Section 31 associate during his Academy and early Officer career. Not a full agent, but an organizer, go-between, and cover story/alibi for S31 agents that were assigned to the fleet. He's been "promoted" within S31 to the position of "Expendable Asset." They want a man on the inside of this operation, and he's it. Personality-wise, he's the all-proper, procedure-minded "straight man" to the Captain's antics. Holds the position as Chief of Security (he's quite skilled at Internal Security/Close Protection for some reason) and primary Tactical Officer on the bridge.

CMO: LCDR. Full blooded Klingon female MILF. Very motherly (in the "Mama Bear" sense) personality. Very quick to anger, and despite her middle age (roughly equal to mid-50's in human terms), is in peak physical condition. She has some Phlox/Pulaski/McCoy in her in that she will readily mix disgusting (to humans) traditional Klingon remedies with hyper-modern medicine. She's actually former KDF, but switched to Starfleet a while back in her career, intentionally so she could see more of the galaxy. Like McCoy, she's very snarky and down-to-Earth (down-to-Quo'nos?) and quickly establishes a joking antithesis with the First Officer.

>>17160

Chief Engineer: LT. Romulan descendant of some refugees that took shelter in the Federation after the Red Matter incident roughly 50 years ago. His father was a Romulan engineering officer of minor importance on a scout vessel. Accepting of his position in the Federation, he has the "alien intrigue" angle (along with the CMO) that would allow stories to explore the pasts of these two major, yet criminally underexplored, races. Intelligent, and possessing a very determined, inventive spirit that would no doubt have been crushed into unimaginative uniformity in the Romulan military, had he joined it. An expert at jury-rigging, as the refugee camp he grew up in was in a politically unstable position between the UFoP and the RSA, and as a result, while the Feds did send them supplies, they basically sent them ancient shit that barely worked (lest these Romulan citizens be returned to the Empire, and take the Tech with them as Intel gains).

Science Officer/Flight Controller: Human from Germany. Starts out as an LTjg. He's just a few credits shy of a Doctorate, and there's a darn good reason - the Academy covered up some rather questionable experiments he was running during his post-graduate degree program years, that involved some senior instructors (they knew what he was doing, and let him do it - if he did good, credit would be shared; if he fucked up, they disavowed knowledge). Something of a "Mad Dr. Frankenstein" in several fields of study. He, officially, "left" the degree program because he lost his patience for it and wanted to get out into space immediately. He might just take some of these robot/android things and pull some Seven of Nine levels of creepy, in that he'll amorally experiment with them, dissect them, and so on. Do they have souls? He can't seem to find a reason to care about that, he's too busy cutting them apart.

Helmsman: Ensign. White South African Boer. Rather old to be an Ensign, he was in the Merchant Marine until he was 30. He was actually born and raised on ships, and sees planets as vacation spots rather than homes. Joined Starfleet mainly because his merchant ship was being decommissioned and he couldn't find a job opening that he liked. Fresh out of the Academy, but highly experienced. He's fought Space Pirates before, and collects antique firearms.

>>17161

Background characters include a pair of Transporter NCO's (one black, one Chinese, who banter back and forth about every middling thing), the ship's rotating staff of counselors (the first one should quit in the first episode, calling the Captain a barbaric relic of a long-dead age or some similar thing), the ship's Chief of Logistics/Cook (Mars native, big guy [4u], loves cooking with real foods, detests replicators), a Commodore from Starfleet Intelligence that gives them most of their missions in Season 1, the commander of a local civilian-run Starbase (under the UFoP directly, not Starfleet) that is more than willing to make back room deals for things the First Officer can't miraculously acquire through channels, and a Mudd-like space trader and gold-hearted ne'er do-well.

Action would take place on a Destroyer or Light Cruiser-sized ship with a crew of about 150-200. Something like an evolved Intrepid design, if a bit bigger. The class would definitely be primarily a warship, but configurable like the Miranda spaceframes into multiple different roles (by adding/removing mission-specific parts). I would insist that a detachment of Starfleet Marines be assigned aboard the ship after the conflict starts in earnest, with the commander thereof being a Relief Tactical Officer, and more or less 3rd or 4th in command of the ship (situation-dependent).

>>6487

Did Hitler through the use of nazi-bell not only travel to the mirror universe but also jump start the Terran Empire?

The man in The High Castle X Star Trek Empire, when?

>>17160

>>17161

>>17162

Like all of this, especially how the Hawaiian Captain and the nutjob Dr. Vahlen science officer would interact with the "mana" of the machines. Yeah having marines on board would make sense, kinda in style of the MACOs from ENT; perhaps with a conflict with the FO and the Marine commander over who is actually in-charge here.

I am not quite sure how you would make the Shatner-playboy angle work today, I mean that kind of thing only works well if you in the TOS situation where they are just going all around the place or like on DS9 with say Bashir. I mean playing that angle as a straight thing, rather than a character flaw or at-least a redeemable quirk that needs to be tempered wouldn't quite sit well in the setting. Another way you could do it is to play him as a kind of male Jazira Dax, which would be pretty neat.

As for the councillor, I think what should happen is that they are a succession of men that quit and the first woman one he has actually breaks through to him, maybe make them half-vulcan half something and have some interesting shit where the vulcan and hawaiian spirituality meet.

As for everyone else, yeah bretty damn good: having an old shuttle-jockey with a thick SUTH AFRIKEN AK-SENT would be bretty kek (I have played rugby with boers and brit South Africans, I can totally see some of them as old shuttle pilots now). The guns thing would be cool: have n episode where some of the [unnamed robots] get on the ship and he pulls out a pump-action gun De La Rey used or something and blasts a bot's head off.

Now the question is how we handle the Armada (probs starting in series 2/3) that will travel to the wormhole to destroy it. Obviously a part-Bajoran captain is going to have friction with the Cardassians, and Klingons are Klingons. There is also the question of the size of the fleet, if our ship (which we have to name btw) will be leading it or just a part of it.

>>17175

Apart from Bashir

:^)

>>17152

I like the Andorians and don't understand why they created a new unnecessarily extra race (Saruu) to insert into STD rather than just continuing to flesh one of the tons o alien races they touch on and then rarely show us more of in the series.

Shran would be old as fuck. I wouldn't mind seeing the daughter of his security officer in something though, don't remember her name it started with an 'L' though.

>>17168

>Hawaiian Captain and the nutjob Dr. Vahlen science officer

Actually, I was thinking more of Medic/Dr. Ludwig from TF2's utter lack of ethics and outright sadomasochism, but cool and tempered almost flat and unemotional about what he does. No morals, no getting jollies off of cutting them up, but an almost Vulcan-like stone cold predator, icy logical approach to the entire endeavor. Knowing, also, full well that what he's doing is entirely amoral, but not caring; he gives no justification for his actions, no appeal to a higher calling. He calls it what it is - a more surgical way to pick up trash cans by the curbside. It's a dirty job, someone has to do it, and he's innately skilled at it. Yes, he's crazy, but he's not outlandish about it.

>conflict with the FO and the Marine commander

The SFMC Officer would be an OF-3/Captain, or Lieutenant in Fleet ranks. This is intentional so as to make him equal to the other Department Heads, and at the same time, give a little fun English confusion - Marine Captain and Captain Hawaii in the same room, an Ensign runs in and says "CAPTAIN!" and they both say "YES!" and stuff like that. Conflict-wise, I'd rather play it the exact opposite - instead of the Marine wanting to take charge, he wants the Fleet Boys to stay the hell out of his Marines' business, and does not brook any bullshit from either side. He's more afraid - and righlty so, given how the SFMC has been treated over the centuries - that Captain Hawaii is going to get his Marines killed because he has no idea how to utilize them properly. And yes, to be specific, they would be a MACO-like Marine Force Recon unit, Special Operations capable, so we can have a few episodes of Solid Snake circa 25th Century. Also, because it's mandatory for Marine units, they'd have a grizzled, veteraned SNCO. Only, he's a shitload older than anyone thinks (83, and human). I was debating internally if he'd be a Paris Island Marine, or a Brit Royal Marine, and I ended up picking Kiwi. Auckland native, a Marine for 65 years, dodging retirement with excuses and loopholes. He'd be played by an actor in his mid-50's or so, with a bit of "aging" makeup on to make it convincing that he's much older and has seen a LOT of shit. Given his age, he'd remember the Dominion War firsthand and possibly even Wolf 359.

>>17217

>make the Shatner-playboy angle

Played E N T I R E L Y straight. As in "Hey, babe - you're hot, I'm a starship captain, also hot, and would like to explore your libido in incredible depth." Given that this IS a "war show" then, by default, he won't have as many chances to actually do it. As in, unlike Shatner, it won't happen every single week. Assuming 26 episodes per season, he might get a solid 10 chances to get sum fuk, but there's no guarantee he'll get it. Just because he's a playboy and charming does not mean he's automatically successful every time. Also, he'd intentionally keep flirting with fellow officers to a bare minimum, mainly because he has the forethought and presence of mind to not pollute his working environment with his ex hookups. I didn't mention it before, but I would intentionally write him to be attracted to female-looking individuals. While not gay, bi, or nonpreferenced hedonistic, if he sees boobs and a nice ass, his head's turning and he might wolf whistle, whether it's "proper" or not. This niggling little sophomoric trait is part of his baggage - and something that can lead to a funny moment if a race were written in where the ones with penises look like human females, and the ones with vaginas look like Arnold Schwarzenegger. It can also be part of the reason why he got this assignment (DD or CL), and not a Sovereign or something, despite his skills - the Admiralty sees him as immature (despite being a pretty good diplomat) and "not ready" for a first class assignment. Not a screwup, but not someone they want joining the Admiral's Club any time soon.

>As for the councillor (Counselor)

All of them female. All of them. Especially the first one - though I'd give a pass if they were an outlandishly flamboyant homosexual-presenting personage. Someone that literally screams "I AM EVERYTHING WRONG WITH THE SJW'S OF TREKDOM" personified. Bonus points if they're an unapologetic hamplanet with technicolor hair. Their dismissal in the first episode is an intentional 4th wall break to the audience, telling them that this show will have nothing to do with these sorts of people. Not that it'll be insensitive, racist, or whatever, just that it's not going to empower SJW-tier whiners and ball-cutters. The "final" counselor, I decided while I was thinking on it today, would be part Vulcan, but the exact opposite of Spock in that she identifies with her human side, and at times intentionally barbs other Vulcans for their slavish adherence to Logic. I would like a scene where she meets Old Tuvok and there's some interaction there that suggests they have something of a Student/Teacher relationship.

>Now the question is how we handle the Armada

The Ship is, at first, part of an exploratory mission in the general area, is one of the first to make contact with the Robutts (and gets a right proper shellacking in the process - as in, "No ship in a Trek series has ever been blown this much-the-fuck-up without a time travel reset"), and when they limp back to safety, they're initially put in charge of several smaller (Destroyer-Escorts or Frigates) ships in the vicinity that Starfleet sends over. And just to show that not everyone in Starfleet is Superman, at least one of them is only marginally competent by Starfleet standards, and their vain attempts to adhere to Starfleet protocol gets them blown up. After some development (8 episodes, minimum), a whole fleet arrives with support vessels, a new pop-up starbase with advanced facilities, and they're relegated to Scout, Intel Gathering, and Light Strike duties while the Starfleet heavies handle the big fighting. This looks into the realities of war that doesn't involve being on a main line capital ship, but having to do so much more scut work, dirty jobs, and support duties, while the prima donna capital ships blow their loads in singular fleet actions that have a lot of lead-up.

>>17219

> Obviously a part-Bajoran captain is going to have friction with the Cardassians

Which is a major point. He may identify with his human side, but the Cardies are only going to see an escaped slave, some of them, at best. At worst, they'll see an invader that crushed their mighty military and everything that's happened to the great Cardassian people since the Dominion War is all his fault somehow, because Starfleet. And yes, the Klingons will be their usual selves, but that's why the CMO is there. If the Klingon boys get out of hand, she WILL step in and pull them over her knee. As I said, MILF, but not just in looks. She's ready and willing to put male Klingon warriors in their places and talk shamefully to them as though she was their very own mother.

>the size of the fleet

The final size would be 12 capital ships (Battleships, Battlecruisers, Tactical Cruisers), 18 second line ships (Galactic Explorers, Heavy Cruisers, Light Cruisers), and another 36 escort vessels (Destroyers, Destroyer-Escorts/Raiders, Frigates), a full Marine Expeditionary Force (2 capital ships, 4 second lines, 4 escorts, 4 landing support vessels, 12 landing ships) all backed up by at least another 36 support vessels (tenders, supply ships, courier ships, accommodation vessels, scientific vessels, a forward-deployable Command and Control Flagship, civilian vessels, Merchant Marine, etc.), a pop-up Starbase, the Civilian Starbase, and no less than two dozen "PT Boat" or "Coast Guard Cutter" type security vessels. It doesn't really need its own name, just a temporary set of Task Force designations, like, 8.11 for the first Capital Ship Battle Group, or 8.34 for the Scout Group that the main ship is a part of.

By the by, I propose "USS Bonaventure" for the ship's name. Dido-class light cruiser from World War II, also mentioned in TAS.

>>17217

>>17219

>>17220

Okay I am liking what I am seeing here, still need to nail down the sexuality characteristic of the captain: I mean are we talking mansult, a laddist ect. but that is minute detail, I get where you want to take it. Also the professionality thing should be played up, it would be an interesting juxtaposition to most male versions of that character that are shown on screen: James Bond shags the secretary, Capitan Hawaii wouldn't.

Ship name is a good shout, I did some research and there have been a few RN ships by that name: the two main ones being the WWII one and one built in 1650 that was in service (in one form or another) for almost an entire century. Also the bloke it is named after is a medieval monk who engaged in writings about theology and philosophy: including on the nature of the soul. Considering "do machines have souls" is kinda a running theme, it is fitting. The Captain having models of a WWII LC, an Elizabethan 2 decker and the TOS era ship in his office would suit it.

I also like the concept of a slow burn war: that it gentle escalates and escalates as the armada grows bigger: it will make the descent into madness that naturally occurs with combat seem more gradual and less obvious for the view until it really hits them. It could be quite a nice literary device: the larger the Armada, the darker the show gets.

One other thing; starting to get to plot and deep character, would be the construction of the Armada and Captain Hawaii's role in it. I think there should be a part, perhaps at the end of the first series when shit is getting real, where the Captain becomes a "Commodore"; a rank that from my research appears not to have been used since TOS days. The specific point being to make him superior and actually grant him a larger command, but a deliberate attempt from Starfleet to make sure he does not have the word "admiral" before his name; since canonically, at-least until the 2360s, that was the same rank as a commodore was in TOS. It would be an intersting character moment, him finally getting to the point he wanted in terms of command, but denied the /glory/ of such a position.

And another character thing: it would be intersting to see the afrikaner pilot and the marine captain become mates, and at a point down the line (perhaps when comparing gun collections) they both have rifles their ancestors used to fire at eachother in the Boer Wars. It is very minor but would make for a good "bonding" episode.

>>17266

As for the bots, I had one idea. Now naturally I want to make them vulcan designed because it will give them a unique edge: the vulcans are a spiritual people and if they created a sentient species, does it share their Shakraha ect. ect. But it dawned on me today "when would the vulcans make genocidal rabits?" and I realised: prior to the era of logic on Vulcan. See the entire dogma of logic comes from the 4th century, after a massive fuck off nuclear war. During this period is also when vulcans who disagree with this dogma leave and found the Romulan Star Empire. As such, you have a civilisation with interstellar travel (if Sub-light) and advance nuclear capabilities: the perfect kind that would develop Skynet. As such, they were created during the vulcan period of planetary war by one side wanting to seek an advantage, but they left their creators and vowed revenge against those who had enslaved them. Now their motivation is not one of naked survival (like the cylons) nor assimilation (cybermen, borg) or some specified goal (the reapers) or most other robotic races: it IS one of revenge. The machines are inherently driven by this want for it, and since the federation possess the Vulcans, they want to wipe them out too. Now this changes the background but the start is still the same: borg getting fucked. Why do out android friends do this? because the Borg have a history of allying themselves with the Federation against existential threats: see species 8472. Thus, a maiming ,but not fatal blow is dealt to the borg by the роботи so the borg won't ally with the federation and thus stop them (odd logic, but if you have 2 millenia old plan for extinction of an entire species, you want to remove every variable). This is why powers like say, the Dominion, are left untouched: they are the enemies of Starfleet and thus would not likely assist them. Their simple aim is to make vulcans extinct, and anyone that tries to stop them will be harmed, but they aren't threatening humanity's extinction also. As such, captured prisoners would be tortured for info but only the /vulcan ones/ are killed. Civilian terror missions carried out by the robotos should only be against vulcan targets: the idea being that it makes the war seem more a direct attack against a people than just a geopolitical conflict, and that some will whisper "well if we just give them the vulcans we will be left alone…"

As for the robotern themselves, I envisage them as betwixt the Cylons and the Geth in a lot of ways. In terms of operations, they are individual units with a unified organisational consensus structure: perhaps like post individualisation Geth. As for shape, they should be roughly humanoid (two legs, two arms, some form of head) but it really shouldn't be recognisably human (or vulcan, I guess). I am no artist, I will not try to go further than that tbh. Physically, they should be slender and efficient, also they should clearly be mechanical: no skinjobs. As a matter of fact, no skinjobs whatsoever, it works in BSG because the skinjobs, cylons and humans were three distinct groups, but I am saying no skinjob storylines about infiltration or some such bollocks. Finally, they should walk in almost an molluscoid way, neigh-gliding from place to place. Also they shouldn't have built-in weaponry but instead should carry it.

That's basically what I have so far.

>>6556

best map ever

>>17219

Tuvok would most likely be dead or BENDIID. He served with Sulu afterall.

>>17592

Eh with Vulcan lifespans and the timing of the mid-2400s it is perfectly possible that Tuvok would have taught the counsellor while being dead in the show.

Regardless, anon who was writing this also, I really kinda want to write a pilot right now.

>>16267

>The overarching plot being similar to the Mediterranean of the 15th and 16th centuries with constant back and forth raids and acts of piracy between the powers

What the fuck? No, fuck no. What in the actual shit. This is retarded, and you're retarded.

Here, how about the implications of how close Slipstream Drive really is hit home? Voyager was capable of matching a ship fast enough to get them home in 3 months, with little more than Deflector shield fuckery. The only caveat was the stress it put on the hull.

Have the season one plot be a halfway present plot/midquel, showing how Starfleet began refitting Intrepid and Sovereign class to begin testing and development, and how deep cover agents across the Alpha Quadrant almost instantly, over a few weeks, were able to communicate just how close everyone really was to Slipstream to everyone else in the Quadrant.

And by the end of the season, show a Star Fleet officer, a part of the show but with nothing suspsicious, dissappears halfway through the season, quietly without any negative remarks, he/she goes on leave, and then on the third to last episode of the season, on a Runabout patrolling Bajor, a Changeling appears, turns itself into noxious paralytic fumes then back into the missing officer, takes the runabout and hauls ass to the wormhole. And on the otherside, puts out a massive hailing signal and gets beamed off by a Dominion vessel.

The stage is set, the entire galaxy is going to acquire Slipstream Drive half a century or more earlier then they should have. And on the last episode of the season, have Q show up to the Bajoran temples, take the Orbs and close the wormhole himself. That wouldn't be the entire episode, but about 12 minutes, with some snide remarks about how its overdue for beings of his level existence to now be forced to obey their own Prime Directive.

Last episode of the season would be the first one that has few to little flashbacks. Now the stage has been set. The Gamma and Delta Quadrant are no longer a lifetime away, just months to a year away, and the whole galaxy has gotten shook up.

>>17973

>Slipstream Drive

>using the bad parts of Voyager for anything serious

Fuck that noise. Find another way.

>>17987

That was one of the best parts of Voyager. And besides, a new technology that makes new and old powers able to reach out and touch each other like never before is an awesome and devastating technology.

Look at what refining the wooden boat into using sails instead of oars as its main mode of travel did to the world in the 15th and 16th century.

Fuck off Chuck.

>>18016

>get superb new drive after just fiddling with the deflector shield

>best part of Voyager

>it's the Voyager-is-kino faggot again

The rest of your pitch I can work with, but not with a foundation of sand like you've got. Try again.

So CISCovery is getting a second series

What do you think will happen?

>>18222

>delayed until late 2019

They'll spend the extra time shilling the ever loving shit out of it, to try and make everyone forget the first season. It won't work, because not only is CIScovery bad, it's simply too boring for even the most delusional fans to stick around a whole year waiting for it. When the new season airs, and is no better than the first try, they'll lose what few idiots chose to stick with it this far.

If this was a regular TV show, they might keep it around as a loss leader in the name of diversity and shilling. But Discovery is one of the most expensive TV shows on the air right now, so they won't even be able to do that for long before they simply run out of money.

>>18222

Since there is nothing for 2018 (the second half of the first season ends this sunday I think), they have a year maybe two to come up with a new season or a new series (if they really go the anthology way).

I really hope they hire better writers and that the next season won't be focused on a single character.

I'd like to see a show set maybe 2 years before the Vulcans arrive for First Contact.

It would be set in the Star Trek universe and timeline (Mankind traveled to Mars in the 1980s and 2030s, there was a Eugenics War in the 90s and WWIII in 2050s)

It would be like The Walking Dead and Mad Max. Starts out with survivors just getting by being irradiated, eating rats and having gang wars, and then if it last for 5 seasons, goes on to show the creation of the UE government, reintroduction of civilization, and maybe towards the end of the series forming a crew to colonize Terra Nova.

I know you all will hate it, but that's what I'd go with.

>>18227

They will fire all the actors and replace them with new ones and do a completely different story and setting they actually said that when making STD that only one season per crew