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0ba9cf No.10437

Vulcans = Germans when they're peaceful.

Reasoning: Look up how they behave, stereotypes of West Germany at the time were emotional robotic drones that were sort of buddies with us and shared technology.

Romulans = Germans when they're being Nazis (or potentially Austrians)

Reasoning: Extremely xenophobic, believe they're the master race. The structure of their society is almost picture perfect fascism, down to the SS/Tal Shiar.

Andorians = Scandinavians, Icelanders, and Danes

Their homeworld is icy, their folk heroes are sailors that circumnavigate things.

Klingons = Russians

Reasoning: because of when the original show was made. they even made them look like cossaks. also they became our friends when soviet union collapsed, because Gene was a hopeful commie, but all that came of it IRL was joined cooperation on the space station.

Some people think it was chinese, but at the time of TOS americans actually considered Russians to be "asiatic huns"

Rigellian = Amerindians, first nations, native american, whatever

Just look at them! Also multigender is a reference to multiple gender cultures in native americans (although natives used it as a form of punshshment, not regular gender)

Betazoids = Brits

Matriarchal society, emotion sensitive, best allies to humans.

Bolians = Canadians

Friendly, compasionate background species. Assisted suicide topic brought up when Canada was ratifying no-rescuscitation law and discussing assisted suicide.

Coridan = Spanish, including south Americans

Hello, CORIDA? Energy rich, labor force. Like fast cars. They have a conflict between Andorrans (scandies) and Vulcans (germans), which mimics early 20th century conflicts in South America. Spanish miracle of the 60s is referenced at one point I think.

Orions = Brazillians

References to Amazons and so on, neighbors to Coridans. Not really hispanic, but portuguese.

Tellarite = Italians

Warm climate, emotional, likes to argue, mostly eats veggies…

Denobulans = Indians

Population pressures, extended and weird families, breed like crazy. They're presented often as educated workers.

Bajorans = Bosnians, Albanians (and Croatians)

Hurr my religion, deep soul people, we got ethnically cleansed by the evil Cardassians/Serbs! DS9 was made during 90s, when we just got finished with Yugoslav wars.

Cardassians = Serbs

They even had a Cardassian Slobodan Milosevic substitute say the line "What will you do now, withhold my medicine?!" a reference to UN killing the real Slobodan by withholding his heart medication.

Founders = The Deep State, Globalists - the only thing that makes sense

Multiple references to them guiding the development of other species, controlling them from afar, being able to blend into and infiltrate other species, being even more ruthless than fascists, having Jem Hadar on standby as rioters-/ehem/-warriors.

Jem Hadar = American blacks, minorities, hapas

See above. Hyper aggressive from birth. Teens are essentially criminals. Controlled by Dominion via "the white" which is clearly a metaphor for crack cocaine, completely expendable. "Created" by Founders just like IRL globalists are responsible for mixed races and migrants.

Trills = Aussies

Majority of population (without symbiont) is a bunch of cucks. A small portion of the population (with symbiont) is mind-blowingly awesome hardass shitposters. One of the best friends of federation.

Vorta = SJWs and Antifa

Clones, loyal manlets.

Breen = Islamic terrorists, Taliban

Cover their faces. Historically first attacked by Klingons (Russians) in a failed invasion, huge tie to Soviet-Afghan war. Indiscriminate terrorist attacks on federation species.

Voyager species seem to be more based on whim than actual allegory, so I don't know what they mean.

2dc02e No.10442

Vulcans = Ashkenazim (as per their self-perception)

Romulans don't dress well enough to be Nazis. Maybe Soviet-era East Germans?

I wouldn't put such fine a point on the Klingons. Maybe 'eastern hordes' or 'huns' in general. They're an amalgamation of asiatics rapists.

Bajorans are so obvious a stand-in for Zionist Jews it hurts. They're basically an atonement/hand-wave from the early portrayal of the Ferengi (which you seem to have neglected). The Cardies are a stand-in for anyone threatening organized Jewery… basically "fascism".


0ba9cf No.10443

>>10442

>Bajorans are so obvious a stand-in for Zionist Jews it hurts.

No those would be the founders.

When were you born, did you live through the 90s?


f69e82 No.10444

>>10437

>Trills = Aussies

>Majority of population (without symbiont) is a bunch of cucks. A small portion of the population (with symbiont) is mind-blowingly awesome hardass shitposters. One of the best friends of federation.

This is so true I'm not sure whether to laugh, become an hero or just fap my worm.


2dc02e No.10445

>>10443

>>Bajorans are so obvious a stand-in for Zionist Jews it hurts.

>No those would be the founders.

obvious as-in intended for the audience to make the connection at least semi-consciously. Normies would never make that sort of connection with the Founders.


df62cd No.10449

>Betazoids = Brits

>Emotionally sensitive

lolwut?


0ba9cf No.10492

>>10449

Again the series was made during the 90s… when we thought we were stopping another holocaust in the balkans.

Seriously you had to be there.


b67230 No.10509

Is the list supposed to be what these species are as intended by the writers, or as intended by /strek/?


f591a9 No.10519

>>10492

I was there, but I don't recall that stereotype of the Brits.


a18d97 No.10533

>>10437

>Dominion

Well, if you're willing to look further back in Balkan history, these guys fit the old Ottoman Empire fairly well. From /tg/:

>Overall, I would compare it to the pre-18th century Ottoman Empire with some Indian thrown in: Slave-soldiers/janissaries (literally dependant on the administration to live), inescapable castes, a powerful, exceedingly well-armed military, the leadership are considered holy, and it has its very own millet system (with a zero tolerance rule). Oh, also, everyone else on the political scene (save poor Cardassia) had to stop fucking around and join forces or die.


d000f6 No.10535

>>10533

That interpretation of the dominion does make a lot of sense.

Also

>>10437

>Romulans = Germans

That was only true for TOS. By the time they where reintroduced in TNG they where an allegory for china, to replace the Klingon/Russians. Particularly as China grew in power and the writers realised that the US and China would be the new rivals in geopolitics.

Lastly, why do you mention Icelanding people and Danes as somehow separate from Scandinavians?


a18d97 No.10563

>>10535

It also helps that the Ottomans were held as The strange and fearsome foreign enemy for a long time. Compared to the Klingons and Romulans, the Dominion is alien as hell.


d000f6 No.10582

>>10563

>Compared to the Klingons and Romulans, the Dominion is alien as hell.

Ironic, since the Dominion has so much more in common with Starfleet than the klingons or Romulans do.

They are both multi racial coalitions who's chief goals are the peaceful coexistance and control of the people within their borders.

The real difference is that the federation relies on subversion and brainwashing to keep its members in line, while the dominion enforces peace and obedience with the business end of a gun.


1651f1 No.10630

>>10582

They were actually going to have more species fighting in the Dominion ranks, in particular the Hunters from the Gamma Quadrant were going to fight alongside Jem'Hadar and Vorta.


a18d97 No.10672

>>10630

Wait a minute. You mean those guys chasing Tosk, right?


c4f975 No.10682

>Trying to draw direct real world parallels for everything you see in fiction

It's so cancerous and there's always some fag that does it. You are that fag this time, OP, stop being that fag.


18cacb No.10836

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>>10682

>OP, stop being that fag.

hang on, are we positing a potential universe where OP might *not* be a massive fucking faggot? I'm not sure that's thermodynamically possible.


3067f5 No.10850

>>10437

Jews are ferengi


0ba9cf No.10880

>>10682

>real world parallels

Where do you think the themes and stories in fiction come from?


0ba9cf No.10883

>>10880

>>10682

Oh and the Maquis are actually the Metis…


8a7297 No.10901

>>10437

Vulcans and Bajorans both parallel the Jews (at least solely from the religious perspective) quite a bit.

Interesting way to look at the Dominion, though I think Section 31 would be a better metaphor for the deep state.


c22a8f No.11324

>>10442

>(which you seem to have neglected)

Pure coincidence, pay no attention to it.


773241 No.11342

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>>10437

Ferengi - The Jews when it comes to money and business

Bajorans - The Jews when it comes to Religion and any alleged oppression.

Vulcans - The Jews when it comes to manipulating their closest ally to be multicultural but staying unique and isolated themselves. Also the Vulcan hand symbol.

The Founders - The Jews when it comes to disguising as Whites when it suits them and manipulating other countries and cultures behind the scenes.


b7c8e5 No.11345

>>11342

The Federation - The Jews when it comes to destroying a culture through globalism.

Klingons - The Jews when it comes to hygiene and culinary ability

Romulans - The Jews when it comes to neocon infiltration of governments.

Tholians - The Jews when it comes to drawing energy webs around people (they’d do it).

Cardassians - /pol/


4b23ed No.11380

>>11342

>>11345

The Borg - The Jews when it comes to "stealing" the best genes of a host society and "cleansing" and "judaizing" its institutions (assimilation)


50cd50 No.11383

>>11380

The Q - White civilization if the Jews were eliminated


0c2734 No.11407

>>10850

Actually ferengi are jews but I get your point.

>>10901

>>11324

>>10442

>long lived, physically stronger, healthier, more logical race

>jews

No.


4b23ed No.11419

>>11407

health and physical strength aren't "un-jewish" traits, per se… it's just that Jews value intellectual traits more and physicality tends to suffer as a result. They aren't turned-off by seeing Spock kick-ass, though. He's a real "mensch"

As for the logic, it's intellectual (which they admire) and - thanks to Nemoy's portrayal - you start to see hints as the series' went-on that the "pure logic" of the Vulcans isn't quite as essential as TOS makes it seem. The trope is routinely subverted with various Vulcan characters and plots. Jews identify with the "superiority" of the Vulcans and would like to see the devotion to logic as "this is just what the Vulcans are doing now" to advantage themselves at this time in the galaxy. At some point, maybe they'll embrace passion. They certainly had in the past. Everything's relative and arbitrary… infinite diversity in infinite combinations… all that stuff…. very Jewish.


0c2734 No.11434

>>11419

>health and physical strength aren't "un-jewish" traits, per se

Yes they are, Jews are incredibly inbred and sickly. The only time a Jew ever looks remotely healthy is if they're on steroids, had massive plastic surgery, or are like 99% some other race.

>it's just that Jews value intellectual traits more and physicality tends to suffer as a result.

They value "intellectual traits" ripping people off isn't intellectual, it requires no intellect, just low morals because they're incapable of any other traits, they are sickly and inbred. Also you seem to think Jews are smart - they're fucking not dude, they get awards through cronyism and plagiarism.


0c2734 No.11436

Aside from their exploitative impulses in Ferengi, which is a wash because the Ferengi are far more honorable and admirable than Jews. In short it's hard to even model the Jews in fiction because the western mind can't even comprehend the depravity of this race.

Even with evidence directly staring a normal person in the face, they would say something like no… it can't be that bad or it cant be common among them.


4b23ed No.11451

>>health and physical strength aren't "un-jewish" traits, per se

>Yes they are, Jews are incredibly inbred and sickly

you're missing my point. they aren't "un-jewish" in the sense that Jews don't hate health or their own physical fitness innately, it's just that it tends to be neglected when it becomes a choice, in favor of intellectualism. When an individual jew can manage both, they're admired. I would agree that Jews in fact aren't particularly smart, but not for the reason you think. They tend to practice a form of cultural eugenics where they drive off their stupid individuals over to the gentiles. An interesting angle for them vis-a-vis Star Trek would have been to paint the Romulans and essentially Vulcan refuse… they're the "inferior" Vulcans that didn't exemplify "Vulcan-ness" (jewishness)

Either way, this discussion is more about ideals and self-perceptions anyway. The fact that Jews dont really live up to theirs has no bearing on the fact that (in my opinion) key Jewish individuals involved in Star Trek projected them on to the Vulcans and that the Vulcans physicality was probably perfectly complementary for them.




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