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File: b3527e2c49285cb⋯.png (257.96 KB, 1000x572, 250:143, hedoniumshockwave.png)

 No.6988

>The Hedonium Ball is at the verge of becoming critical (and turn into super-critical hedonium, at around 17 kgs, which leads to runaway re-coherence of the wavefunction reachable, i.e. all of our forward light-cone). The only reason why the ball hasn’t gone critical is because the friendly AI is currently preventing it from doing so. But the AI is at full capacity. If it had a bit more power the AI would completely annihilate the hedonium, since it is a threat to the Coherent Extrapolated Volition (CEV) of the particular human values that led to its creation. More so, the friendly AI would then go ahead and erase the memory of anyone who has ever thought of making hedonium, and change them slightly so that they belong to a society of other people who have been brainwashed to not know anything about philosophical hedonism. They would have deeply fulfilling lives, but would never know of the existence of hyper-valuable states of consciousness.

>Only you can sort out this stale-mate. The ball and the FAI are at such a delicate balance that just throwing a trolley at either will make the other win forever.

Wat do?

 No.6989

Hedonium is for plebs. Immanentize dat eschaton, y'all.


 No.6990

File: fd87fee02a51705⋯.jpg (14.58 KB, 255x170, 3:2, train_on_two_tracks.jpg)

Both. Hedonium is actually suicide and CEV or Friendly AI is hubristic abomination.

Healthy, lucid and long term viable AI instead.


 No.6991

I think my order of preferences would be:

CEV(myself and people like me) > hedonium >(?) CEV(humanity) > extinction of life > hypothetical dystopian space colonization with more suffering than happiness

I currently lean toward total utilitarianism, but I also care about what my idealized self values; if I would value something other than happiness/not-suffering on reflection, then I would prefer that. I don't think all humans would necessarily converge on the same values, and many current humans have very different values from mine, so I would probably prefer hedonium over the CEV humanity (assuming that's even a meaningful concept).

Then again, if hedonium just consists of the same maximally blissful experience over and over, I'm uncertain whether that is really much more valuable than just having that experience exist a few times. There may be diminishing marginal utility to each additional hedonium-unit. If I had to guess, I still think having more of that maximally-blissful experience is better.


 No.6992

>>6990

so exactly the same thing sans buzzwords you don't like?


 No.6993

>>6988

I reverse the train down the track towards the eternal pain AI.


 No.6994

become a monk.




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