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3d0993 (2) No.707401>>708018 >>710946 >>712839 >>896111 >>986384 [Watch Thread][Show All Posts]

"Christopher Wylie goes on the record to discuss his role in hijacking the profiles of millions of Facebook users in order to target the US electorate"

https:// www.theguardian.com/news/2018/mar/17/data-war-whistleblower-christopher-wylie-faceook-nix-bannon-trump

058c7b (1) No.708018

>>707401 (OP)

'We exploited Facebook to target people's inner demons': How a gay vegan who once worked for the Lib Dems created the software which helped bring about Trump and Brexit"

http:// www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5514283/How-gay-vegan-created-software-helped-bring-Brexit.html


3d0993 (2) No.709372

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Author: Christopher Wylie banned from FB

https:// twitter.com/chrisinsilico


8e8a39 (1) No.710895>>710974

Breitbart had an article this morning about it but didn't mention the Guardian's info where Wylie acted like he did something wrong. Breitbart's article was more like it was much ado about nothing.


86a67c (37) No.710946>>711298 >>713021

>>707401 (OP)

Just a MAJOR heads up folks - this is going to bring a huge sh&t storm on both sides starting Monday (already is…).

I hope you all read this article and do some research on your own.

This could go either way.


86a67c (37) No.710974

>>710895

That's b/c Bannon is mentioned in the article. Read the Guardian article. The link is at the top.


86a67c (37) No.711298>>711968

>>710946

Dems want Zuckerberg on the Hill ASAP.

"Facebook breach: This is a major breach that must be investigated. It’s clear these platforms can’t police themselves. I've called for more transparency & accountability for online political ads. They say “trust us.” Mark Zuckerberg needs to testify before Senate Judiciary."

https:// twitter.com/amyklobuchar/status/975158333446541312

https:// www.puppetstringnews.com/blog/facebooks-zuckerberg-ordered-to-testify-before-senate-judiciary-committee


86a67c (37) No.711968

>>711298

>>701978

Commentary Only on my part.

Looking at this all day.

1. The Wylie article appears to have been in the pipes for quite some time w/ the Guardian. Also it was widely reported prior to the election that Trump used Data Analytics. Hussein used a similar data mining resource as well for both of his campaigns, so this is kinda old news and was not seen as a problem in 2017 by the MSM.

2. We know the Snowden/Guardian link. Where this puts Snowden now has muddled the waters in my mind a LOT. Did the 10 March post:

">>621807

We went too deep.

Attempted a pullback.

Not ready.

Q"

refer to Snowden? Something went awry that's for sure.

3. I've always thought (since Jan/Feb) that there has been a race to get things done/out in public domain between DS and POTUS.

4. Snowden clearly knew this article was in the making and would be dropped at the opportune time. There was no rush to publish unless DS knew their days were numbered.

McCabe’s firing was a clear shot across the bow. And since McCabe said this about leaks/in his statement after being fired:

"I chose to share with a reporter through my public affairs officer and a legal counselor,” McCabe stated. “As deputy director, I was one of only a few people who had the authority to do that. It was not a secret, it took place over several days, and others, including the director, were aware of the interaction with the reporter.”

This meant that Comey had lied to Congress and that the DS days were definitely numbered: ergo the Guardians cue to publish the article. Oh, and it’s interesting that the NYT had a piece on this on line in a matter of minutes/hours after the Guardian’s. How convenient -- does anyone believe the NYT piece was not already in the can. Another example of not reporting – just echoing the same info they already shared.

5. I think Q’ s BOOM. BOOM.BOOM is a day late. DS raced ahead on this one (published late Saturday night) IMHO. How this plays out I dunno, except that’s going to be long and tortuous for everyone. Calls of impeachment are at the doorstep - mark my words.

6. IF there was a lot to happen this week -- it won’t get the attention it deserves. I don’t know Chess terms very well, but I’m sure there is one out there for the Guardian article being published now.

“Timing is everything” as they say.

These are only my opinions.


791186 (2) No.712839>>713107

>>707401 (OP)

Facebook ALSO helped big time w/ O's 2012 messaging/reach - using what appears to be the same application FB is now claiming was something they were hoodwinked by. This needs further connect the dots.

Meanwhile - here is a sampling (w/ sauce) of some of the revelations/touts of "hey great for FB and O to have used this app".

Here you go:

"Reported Nov 2012 - Facebook Wants You to Vote on Tuesday. Here’s How It Messed With Your Feed in 2012."

"The campaign called this effort targeted sharing. And in those final weeks of the campaign, the team blitzed the supporters who had signed up for the app with requests to share specific online content with specific friends simply by clicking a button. More than 600,000 supporters followed through with more than 5 million contacts, asking their friends to register to vote, give money, vote or look at a video designed to change their mind.

A geek squad in Chicago created models from vast data sets to find the best approaches for each potential voter. “We are not just sending you a banner ad,” explains Dan Wagner, the Obama campaign’s 29-year-old head of analytics, who helped oversee the project. “We are giving you relevant information from your friends.”

http:// swampland.time.com/2012/11/20/friended-how-the-obama-campaign-connected-with-young-voters/

More from FB in next post


b1908c (3) No.713021>>713171

>>710946

It is another non story saying someone linked to Trump brainwashed people to vote for him based on their person's data mined out of facebook.


ae7695 (2) No.713107>>713704

>>712839

'Reported April 2016

Mark Zuckerberg Throws Shade at Donald Trump During Keynote Speech"

Facebook founder and CEO Mark Zuckerberg spent roughly five minutes denouncing the policies of presidential hopeful Donald Trump during the opening of this year’s F8 keynote.

“As I look around the world, I’m starting to see people and nations turning inward, against the idea of a connected world and a global community,” Zuckerberg said.”

DID YA GET THAT “GLOBAL” WORD

“I hear fearful voices calling for building walls and distancing people they label as ‘others.’ I hear them calling for blocking free expression, for slowing immigration, for reducing trade, and in some cases even for cutting access to the internet,” he said.

A smoke screen b/c $$ is more important to FB now. You be the judge.

https:// gizmodo.com/mark-zuckerberg-throws-shade-at-donald-trump-during-key-1770534129#_ga=1.30452089.778886705.1458001093

***

Also in April 2016

"Facebook Says it Doesn't Try to Influence How People Vote"

"Facebook has declared it will never use its product to influence how people on the platform vote"

https:// gizmodo.com/facebook-says-it-doesnt-try-to-influence-how-people-vot-1771276946?rev=1460755179651

***

"Facebook Employees Asked Mark Zuckerberg If They Should Try to Stop a Donald Trump Presidency "

"But what’s exceedingly important about this question being raised---and Zuckerberg’s answer, if there is one—is how Facebook now treats the powerful place it holds in the world.

It’s unprecedented. More than 1.04 billion people use Facebook. It’s where we get our news, share our political views, and interact with politicians. It’s also where those politicians are spending a greater share of their budgets.

And Facebook has no legal responsibility to give an unfiltered view of what’s happening on their network."

“Facebook can promote or block any material that it wants,” UCLA law professor Eugene Volokh told Gizmodo. “Facebook has the same First Amendment right as the New York Times."

"Facebook has toyed with skewing news in the past. During the 2012 presidential election, Facebook secretly tampered with 1.9 million user’s news feeds."

"The company also tampered with news feeds in 2010 during a 61-million-person experiment to see how Facebook could impact the real-world voting behavior of millions of people."

"An academic paper was published about the secret experiment, claiming that Facebook increased voter turnout by more than 340,000 people. "

"In 2012, Facebook also deliberately experimented on its users’ emotions. The company, again, secretly tampered with the news feeds of 700,000 people and concluded that Facebook can basically make you feel whatever it wants you to."

"If Facebook decided to, it could gradually remove any pro-Trump stories or media off its site---devastating for a campaign that runs on memes and publicity. "

"Facebook wouldn’t have to disclose it was doing this, and would be protected by the First Amendment.

But would it be ethical?"

https:// gizmodo.com/facebook-employees-asked-mark-zuckerberg-if-they-should-1771012990

https:// www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2015/05/26/heres-how-the-first-president-of-the-social-media-age-has-chosen-to-connect-with-americans/?utm_term=.5c455871cbd4

If I have inadvertently missed any sauce - sorry, way too may tabs open, but all easily available with a search.


ae7695 (2) No.713171>>713739

>>713021

you sir are uninformed.


791186 (2) No.713704

>>713107

Data mining is not new - O used to the best degree possible during both campaigns and with FB's help.

All this means in the real world is one campaign outreached worked before (2012) - so let's take the same approach and see if we get the same results. And that is exactly what the DJT campaign did and there is nothing wrong in using the same model.

What's wrong, IMHO, is that FB seizes (based on their own raw data) where they can extract the most $$ from.

Did anyone believe DJT would be elected - NO. Was FB collecting data throughout 2015,2016 and gathering raw data that suggested their users were fed up w/ the last 8 years - well sure as shootin' they were.

Is there no coincidence that FB ran w/ the raw info they already had and went after the $$.

I firmly don't believe that the DJT campaign had any idea they were the next "experiment"

"to see how Facebook could impact the real-world voting behavior of millions of people."

If one side is guilty so is the other if we are talking elections.

The bigger issue here is FB influence - operating under the protections under the 1st amendment.

https:// www.studentnewsdaily.com/editorials-for-students/facebook-employees-asked-mark-zuckerberg-if-they-should-try-to-stop-a-trump-presidency/

https:// www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/19331681.2014.982266

https:// www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2017/01/did-america-need-a-social-media-president/512405/


b1908c (3) No.713739>>713871

>>713171

We talk like people are unable to think for themselves. All I see is another violation of user privacy. The non-story for me that it has anything to do with Trump.


d7cf51 (1) No.713871>>714032

>>713739

Agree to a certain extent. Most people DO NOT think for themselves and there is a reason for this. If you don't believe Social Media has an affect on people then I suggest you do some research of your own.

Is this a violation of privacy - I agree. Again, you need to do some research on your end.

"non story" for you? - Read your headlines starting tomorrow and see if what has been mentioned above says what you state.

(btw did you read any of those links provided before commenting?)


b1908c (3) No.714032

>>713871

I know it does. But we are not discussing that for this election anyways. We know the election was rigged in certain state the banter about the influence of social media is a distraction. Media has affected us from its inception in writing in the sand or on rocks. Communication influence is always profound. This is why the First Amendment is important. The counterattack created here and during the election provided facts to offer a counter to emotional banter. The tiring attempts to undermine the presidency is the distraction. This what I am saying. I don't disagree with how manipulation on our mind occurs through media programs. Thanks.


6b93dd (7) No.729271

Reports of Facebook Data Breach

http:// time.com/5204920/facebook-mark-zuckerberg-cambridge-analytica/?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=time.com&utm_campaign=ideal-media-internal-recirculation&utm_term=68895&utm_content=2205386


6b93dd (7) No.729307

" A data company that works with politicians stole 50 million Facebook profiles -- here's how to protect your account "

https:// www.businessinsider.com.au/cambridge-analytica-scandal-how-to-protect-facebook-account-apps-accessing-info-2018-3


6b93dd (7) No.729451

Facebook's content issues are creating a 'tailwind' for Amazon's ad business

https:// www.businessinsider.com.au/amazon-stock-price-facebook-content-issues-creating-tailwind-2018-3


6b93dd (7) No.729469

Snap sinks as Facebook fallout ripples throughout tech

https:// www.businessinsider.com.au/snap-stock-price-sinks-as-facebook-fallout-ripples-throughout-tech-2018-3


6b93dd (7) No.729497

Amazon dips as data privacy concerns hit Facebook

https:// www.businessinsider.com.au/amazon-stock-price-dips-over-data-privacy-concerns-sparked-by-facebook-2018-3


6b93dd (7) No.729517

Dow plunges more than 300 points -- tech stocks crushed by news of Facebook breach

https:// www.businessinsider.com.au/stock-market-today-selloff-facebook-data-breach-roils-tech-industry-2018-3


6b93dd (7) No.729543

Facebook's massive data breach is 'opening a can of worms'

https:// www.businessinsider.com.au/facebook-stock-price-drops-data-breach-can-of-worms-2018-3


2485f0 (2) No.730241>>730259 >>735907

If you create a social media account on sites like Facebook, at the very least you have to provide an (email) address to which a verification link will be issued, which must be clicked to fully activate the account/services.

We shoudln't lose sight of the revelations to come concerning the D's use of Google inspired Twatter bots (not Russian, by and large) to try and swing things in their favour too - firmer details of which, I hope will find air-time in the coming days (they need to imo).

I'm not a US resident and have to say I was quite shocked to discover that voter ID is so lax, that you don't apparently even have to provide evidence of a right to vote in many states at the polling centres.

Yet the former is being used to discredit the latter…..perverse, and will muddy the thinking of the normies distracted by the bright lights of the MSM.

Perhaps, there is a counter-strategy which can be employed which will kill two (or more) birds with one fairly heft stone…

1./ Federal mandate to require nationwide voter registration and ID at the polling stations, as is used in the UK for instance.

Oh, and get rid of those electronic voting machines - a paper ballot system, coupled with a process of counting off registered voters who have attended to vote, will go a long way towards reducing voter fraud.

2./ Regulation of social media sites to require all users register with their real name, and this MUST be linked to a real voter ID in the nation from which the user is registering. Make the portal a national asset/utility, first.

Why?

a1./ You can never have a straight election, without being able to identify voters. The wibbling left cannot argue that the voter has a right to not be identified as "it's an invasion of voter privacy".

You register to vote and get a voter ID and vote card with this ID on it. You take your vote card to the polling station and hand it to the attendant who takes and retains the vote card, checks your name off a list and hands you a ballot paper with NO PERSONALLY IDENTIFYING MARK upon it (nobody knows who you voted for - not even the gov't). You cast your vote and box it. Very. Fucking. Simple. …..and employed in many countries across the world.

22./ The social media phenomena permits some of its more heinous activities because it is relatively simple to create an account which affords the user some anonymity/distance relative to their victims - it is the ultimate tool for those who have no regard for the consequences which project outwards, from their own selfish actions and behaviours.

One of the great fundamental issues at the root of our malaises today is a lack of personal responsibility, and not being forced to provide verfiable details on identity to these portals means people enter into these services with a careless attitude in the first place.

A globalist mentality could be fostered by a system that makes your actions and behaviours in the public sphere traceable (you forego any right to privacy the moment you entere into such a domain, with any activity you conduct within said domain). Without requiring globalism as a system of governance for all of life's activities, wherever they may be.

This in itself is not an attack against privacy. What you do outside the sphere of social media portals should rightly remain your own business - you are choosing your own exposure, so must act responsibly.

On such portals, I don't actually hold that you should have the right to be 'forgotten'. There should be a consequence for stupid behaviour, and especially where such behaviours might fall far below the bar of criminality which can be prosecuted.

Tightening identity requirements on all social media platforms should help people to just be better with one another, regardless of location, faith, or ethnicity.

/my 2cp and some change, sorry for rambling :)


2485f0 (2) No.730259>>734409

>>730241

Also, FWIW, I think the D's have prematurely ejac'd on this story.

Q's still have the questionable use of Google/Twatter to throw into the mix, and oh, so much more.

The FB/CA thing is only likely to be a speedbump, before the juggernaut plows through. JMO.


aea174 (1) No.734409>>748230

>>730259

>Also, FWIW, I think the D's have prematurely ejac'd on this story.

They will destroy whatever they need to, to ensure their brainwashing sticks on their zombie wing and to give their pundits something to talk about.


86a67c (37) No.735907>>753863

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>>730241

Your "concerns" are well stated - the solution is not a national id card of any sort - as that is what makes the US different from most of the world - at least so far.

You are probably young (under 40) and have no other basis on which to see when it was NOT that way, therefore this makes total sense to you. And I see that.

What we want, you should want, is less government controlling.

This entire FB issue is only in the news because Trump won. This FB activity was lauded when Obama won and seen as "brilliant" campaign strategy.

What left here in the U.S. are really pissed about is that Trump used their toys. Silicon Valley was "their" ace in the pocket and not ever a problem before 3 days ago.

They are now crying REGULATION.

I akin this to the Harvey Weinstein MeToo movement - Harvey skated for years until someone in Hollywood EXPOSED him.

So like Wienstein - the Wylie article EXPOSED Facebook…and like clock work all of the left now is denouncing some(one)/thing they once embraced as brilliant.

I for one don't want the government telling me what I can take part in/join/or have monitoring abilities - ANYWHERE.

If everyone has their knickers in a twist - then EVERYONE should wake up and ask themselves is it better that FB has my data or the US government?

Hands down it would NOT be the US government or any other government across the globe.

People here need to take a HUGE step back and think about what they are advocating for.

False OUTRAGE over thinking their data was stolen (it was not stolen just sold)

vs.

Having all their information contained and monitored by a government entity.

The best to outcome would be legislation that prohibits social sites from selling their information.

Simple and that's all that's needed. Trickle down economics.


86a67c (37) No.748230

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>>734409

Eric Schimdt and Mark Zuckerberg used Google and Facebook to manipulate users during the 2008 and 2016 presidential elections. The Facebook “Template to Win” was written by a Russian. This program was used by Obama in the 2008 election to win and during the 2016 election, Obama set up a political war-room that utilized the Template to Win officially under the egis of the US Digital Service -- a service used by Democrats against Republicans.

Schmidt has been so bold as to brag about his billion dollar efforts to get Obama and Hillary into the White House by writing new algorithms that direct users to rigged sites and ads that support his candidates.

Zuckerberg has tried to hide his crimes by lying about Russian ads and hiding his Template to Win, but the head of the Global Engagement Center has told the press that he used Facebook to target and attack US citizens throughout the election.

Zuckerberg now must answer to why Yuri Milner and other Russians own large amounts of Facebook shares. Mark also needs to answer why his best friend and investor ($200 million), the Russian Yuri Milner now lives in Silicon Valley and buys political and corporate support like it is popcorn.

A picture that speaks a thousand words.

NOVEMBER 21, 2017 9:38 PM

Weaponizing social media a six part series. I encourage all to watch. Jaw dropping.

https:// www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUJUKIPab0A&feature=youtu.be

https:// www.youtube.com/watch?v=MjSxEkez31o&feature=youtu.be

https:// www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJ4KRts8RFc&feature=youtu.be

https:// www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKwbpfvpLC4&feature=youtu.be

https:// www.youtube.com/watch?v=VPQmaTvB9aQ&feature=youtu.be

https:// www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxytlqS4amc&feature=youtu.be

sauce

https:// aim4truth.org/2017/11/21/facebook-unmasked-how-the-worlds-most-relevant-entrepreneur-was-screwed-by-zuckerberg/


86a67c (37) No.749055

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A day late - your wonderkind is now longer revered and adored - just like Weinstein. Boy libs eat their own don't they. Trouble for them now is how much beyhond Zuck this will spread.

Defensive tactics on display here:

Dear Mr. Zuckerberg:

As you are no doubt aware, we are sponsoring a privacy initiative to appear on the November 2018 California ballot, the California Consumer Privacy Act of 2018.

The measure would allow California consumers to protect their personal information from the type of breach that just occurred at Facebook.

The California Consumer Privacy Act of 2018 will allow California consumers:

To see what categories of their personal information large businesses collect about them;

To tell those corporations to stop selling their personal information, and to not discriminate against them for making that choice (i.e. the company couldn’t then refuse service, or increase prices); and

To hold businesses accountable to victims of data breaches when they are reckless with Californians’ personal information.

When we were drafting the initiative, we reached out to Facebook to try to enlist its support. We thought Facebook would be an obvious supporter. What could be more natural than the world’s biggest repository of personal information, agreeing to give consumers the power to protect their personal information, including prohibiting the sale of their information---especially when you already say publicly, that you don’t sell it?

We were, however, disappointed: Facebook chose not to support us.

We were even more disappointed to learn that on February 27, 2018, Facebook joined Comcast, Verizon, AT&T, and Google, to contribute over $1 million to a political action committee you set up to oppose the measure.

Something’s not adding up here. You have claimed the Cambridge Analytica data breach was not a breach, and that you do not sell users’ personal information---but either it was a breach, or a sale. If not a breach, we are forced to conclude that Facebook sold Cambridge Analytica access to over 50 million users’ personal information, most of whom NEVER consented to having their personal information shared.

We call upon you to either support our ballot measure, or to acknowledge that Facebook’s practices violate our initiative’s prohibitions, namely that you sell your users’ personal information, and that you plan to continue doing so.

It is time to be honest with Facebook users and shareholders about what information was collected, sold or breached in the Cambridge Analytica debacle; and to come clean about the true basis for your opposition to the California Consumer Privacy Act of 2018.

Californians, and your users, have a right to know.

Pathetic attempt IMHO to cover tracks downstream.

https:// www.caprivacy.org/petitions/letter/a


86a67c (37) No.749471

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Facebook is part of the Big Brother system of control - see Orwell's 1984.

It sells all of your personal data to Governments & Corporations.

It manipulates and censors what you can see and what you don't see online.

It even tries to manipulate your current mood

A lost generation 1998-2018.


b0771c (1) No.753330

3/21/2018

"Actually, I’m not sure we shouldn’t be regulated,” Zuckerberg said in an interview with CNN that represented some of his first public remarks since the Cambridge Analytica controversy plunged his company into crisis and led to calls for his testimony to Congress."

http:// thehill.com/policy/technology/379673-zuckerberg-maybe-tech-should-face-some-regulations


b059d1 (1) No.753863>>757844

>>735907

>If everyone has their knickers in a twist

I agree with most of what you say, and will add this:

The data was not "stolen" per-se, but the EULA of these companies ensures that your data is no longer yours with a clause that states something to the effect of "If you store anything here, it legally becomes ours also, if you agree to this EULA."

Most aren't even aware of this, and of those that are, most don't care, apparently… Until they see some great idea they had suddenly being produced by an affiliated corporation, then they start caring. (I've watched this happen to others a few times over the last 10 years; not with Facebook, but with Google apps. Any anons ever wonder why they provide these services for free? I don't, not after watching people have their ideas raped from them through a EULA.) People should be OUTRAGED by the rape of their thoughts. But they also should remember that they did it to themselves, by agreeing to these shady ass EULAs without reading them, which tricks them into giving up their rights. The fact that these EULAs piss all over the 4th amendment is a huge thing people always miss in this argument.

I think the real problem is that they actually need to put some knickers on in the first place and demand that laws be enacted that turns user data into economic kryptonite.

We need a digital version of the 4th amendment, in exactly the same pattern that we have been pushing #IBOR as a digital version of the 1st amendment. We need laws that protect the online "right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects,[a] against unreasonable searches and seizures" by unscrupulous corporations.

And as far as this quaint idea of "privacy" is concerned: We already know the NSA has everything; Bitching about privacy is indeed a false issue at this time, and will be until the DS is out of our companies, and encryption that isn't back-doored is developed.

"Remembering what it was like before the clowns fucked it all up."

-genxanon


5b7f48 (1) No.755970

Who else got data from Facebook?

Which industries get data from Cambridge Analytics?


13ec75 (1) No.757343

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86a67c (37) No.757844

>>753863

A very thoughtful contribution. Thank you.

I don't see EULA as part of the FB issue at all - and I may be wrong. It is my understanding that the EndUserLicenseAgreement does not apply here b/c FB/GOOG/Twat are simple aggregates of information. They are not licensing their internal progs for outside use - they are supplying the data they have mined themselves to outside users.

If FB allowed an outside app (CA) to piggy back onto their platform to garner more info I don't see how that falls under EULA either. Again, I may be wrong.

You are spot on about "why do FB/GOOG/Twat provide the services for free" - because they are in the data mining industry - plain and simple - and that's a big commodity these days.

I think you are skipping a step by going directly to wanting another version of the 4th amendment for on-line activity. Not only would that undertaking take HUGE resources/$$$/ to monitor/manage complaints/etc. - it would not stop it.

Take a step back and reconsider: if there was a law that FB/GOOG/Twitter could not re-sell their mined information from their users - what would that mean for these company's survival?

I said trickle-down economics for a reason. If you are not familiar w/ that concept - it's really quite a marvelous tool to bring about reform w/ out enacting yet another bureaucratic sh&t hole in the US govt.

They will collapse under their own weight out of public displeasure and no longer having the income stream from outside entities b/c that can no longer purchase their stuff.

Their are tons of ways to bring about change that don't involve REGS, and we should shy away from REGS as the last bastion.

If Congress enacts REGS going forward - conservative sites will be tagged and banned. - mark my word.

Giving the keys to Congress or some bureaucrat will be a death knoll to people like us. Remember Lois Lerner - OMG - Remember Lois Lerner.

Don't go there if you care about liberty and freedom.

Thanks again for a great post and dialog.


86a67c (37) No.787476

File (hide): 284c117774a4587⋯.jpeg (24.41 KB, 908x286, 454:143, googfbamzFB logos.jpeg) (h) (u)

Read this guys info he has posted on Twat on how you can find out if YOU have been tracked by the FB app and other apps - really scary stuff.

https:// twitter.com/dylanmckaynz


86a67c (37) No.791274

File (hide): 13c853a0008e1b1⋯.png (705.21 KB, 600x849, 200:283, fb kids.png) (h) (u)

File (hide): 60a951267f2791f⋯.png (193.51 KB, 1200x900, 4:3, goog app fb meanings.png) (h) (u)

The influence on society is going lower and lower.

Messenger Kids, its first grab at the under-13 crowd, is not to be trusted. After all, you’ve seen how the company treats adults.

The company will collect the content of children’s messages, photos they send, what features they use on the app, and information about the device they use.

Facebook says it will use this information to improve the app and will share the information “within the family of companies that are part of Facebook,” and share with outside companies that provide customer support, analysis, and technical infrastructure.

Notice the word SHARE in all the above sentence?

The parents who defend signing their kids up for that are just F'ing lazy and should not have brought children into this world if their idea of parenting is pushing a button and walking away.

We need to look more into this as this FB app is promoted towards children. There are probably more apps out there targeting children < 15 and identifying them here might tie into "those" other things being tracked on this board.

https:// www.technologyreview.com/s/609723/facebooks-app-for-kids-should-freak-parents-out/

https:// www.theverge.com/2018/2/14/17012052/facebook-messenger-kids-android-app-now-available


86a67c (37) No.817829

"Cambridge Analytica whistleblower Christoper Wylie, appearing before a committee of British MPs on Tuesday, said that Facebook has the ability to spy on users in their homes and offices…….

https:// pjmedia.com/trending/cambridge-analytica-whistleblower-facebook-may-listening-home-work/


86a67c (37) No.834743

File (hide): c616d4ba18fdc5a⋯.jpg (218.01 KB, 2320x1176, 290:147, fb dies.jpg) (h) (u)

The explosive internal memo is titled “The Ugly,” and has not been previously circulated outside the Silicon Valley social media giant.

Bosworth published the post to Facebook for employees’ eyes only

The natural state of the world is not connected. It is not unified. It is fragmented by borders, languages, and increasingly by different products. The best products don’t win. The ones everyone use win.

The Bosworth memo reveals the extent to which Facebook’s leadership understood the physical and social risks the platform’s products carried --- even as the company downplayed those risks in public.

https:// www.buzzfeed.com/ryanmac/growth-at-any-cost-top-facebook-executive-defended-data?utm_term=.dyowbGlAv#.rlkrv6jPb


86a67c (37) No.835060

File (hide): 602ea30aed0d06e⋯.jpg (38.69 KB, 620x348, 155:87, we-wouldnt_1457068372.jpg) (h) (u)

Think Facebook knows a lot about you?

Google is WORSE! From deleted files to location history, IT expert reveals the extent of the personal data the search giant holds on you

Web developer Dylan Curran, based in Waterford, Ireland, decided to download both his Facebook and Google archives on Saturday.

The data held by the world's most popular social media site was fairly large, at around 600mb, equivalent to roughly 400,000 Word documents.

But this paled in comparison to Google's data file, which was 5.5gb, almost ten times larger. This is around the same size as three million Word documents.

http:// www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-5557619/IT-expert-reveals-extent-data-Google-you.html


86a67c (37) No.835169

File (hide): b37a1bc00058df1⋯.jpg (22.91 KB, 1240x744, 5:3, ba by sheryl.jpg) (h) (u)

Before working at Google, Sandberg was chief of staff for Bill Clinton’s treasury secretary Larry Summers and she is very well regarded among policymakers. During the last presidential election, Sandberg was a vocal supporter of Hillary Clinton and even tipped as a possible treasury secretary.

All of which make her a potential candidate for two of the most powerful positions in the world: the next CEO of Facebook, should Zuckerberg ever choose to step-down, or even a future occupant of the White House.

Buh-Bye Sheryl

https:// www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/mar/29/sheryl-sandberg-facebook-cambridge-analytica


86a67c (37) No.844563

File (hide): d1d79c864c1809a⋯.jpg (6.93 KB, 259x194, 259:194, hrc and google.jpg) (h) (u)

File (hide): d935ceee5b0e0c1⋯.jpg (284.13 KB, 1280x868, 320:217, google-111_Eighth_Avenue.jpg) (h) (u)

File (hide): eb414f0b328e7d2⋯.jpg (219.91 KB, 2320x1176, 290:147, CESC 8th ave.jpg) (h) (u)

File (hide): cc65da74652469c⋯.jpg (238.18 KB, 2320x1176, 290:147, ES podesta wiki leaks.jpg) (h) (u)

File (hide): b8488e7a73407a4⋯.jpg (136.83 KB, 663x625, 663:625, schmidt agreggating voter ….jpg) (h) (u)

A handy 2 miles between them…meh. Move on down the grit here of my digging today.

About 111:

111 Eighth Avenue - Too close for Comfort

The building, which has been owned by Google since 2010, is one of the largest technology-owned office buildings in the world.

Well lookey here - who else took up space in the same bldg

Clinton Executive Services Corp.

is a DOMESTIC BUSINESS CORPORATION, located in New York, NY and was formed on Dec 08, 2010. This file was obtained from the Secretary of State and has a file number of 4027945.

Do you find it odd that this company was obtained by the Secretary of State? Need to do more digging on that file number referenced as: 4027945

This business was in the New York SOS Office and the registered agent is Ct Corporation System that does business at 111 Eighth Avenue , New York in New York.

If FB was giving free access to Hussein & HRC (for all of these campaigns) and later "sold" their info via (fill in the blank) to the Trump campaign because they (trump campaign PAID for it - legal) there is a big difference in "free access" vs. "paid access")

Given that difference this syncs it to me that GOOG is just another player in selling info and should now be treated just as bad as FB.

Also NOTE TOO - that all your searches today about 666 NOW only bring up ties to JK. Don't be fooled - Google maniuplates searches and keeps track of everything in order to broaden/or narrow the damage searches will result in.

***

I had posted earlier on another thread about whether ES was good cop/bad cop - well after today's research it is in my mind ES is a BAD cop.

This is worrisome about his recent travels abroad - about which there are several good posts here if you can find them.

https:// en.wikipedia.org/wiki/111_Eighth_Avenue

http:// www.entitysource.com/details/entity/ny_4027945/clinton-executive-services-corp

http:// protoph.com/project/google-building-111-eighth-avenue/

http:// www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/11/wikileaks-google-alphabet-chair-eric-schmidt-read-fund-advise-recruit-hillary/

https:// wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/41853#efmALeAVr

https:// aim4truth.org/2017/11/27/obama-clinton-schmidt-zuckerberg-election-rigging-failed/

https:// www.fbcoverup.com/docs/library/2014-04-15-Fwd-2016-thoughts-Email-to-Roby-Mook-John-Podesta-David-Plouffe-re-Google-Eric-Schmidt-Notes-for-a-2016-Democratic-Campaign-EmailID-No-37262-WikiLeaks-Apr-15-2014.pdf


3399c1 (1) No.866494

File (hide): 12e10589653e3e9⋯.jpg (657.94 KB, 1810x881, 1810:881, Face Face.jpg) (h) (u)


251310 (1) No.866548

Just in time for the 2012 election.


86a67c (37) No.871744

File (hide): a99a69c77eaf5e5⋯.jpg (5.93 KB, 300x168, 25:14, fb hate speach.jpg) (h) (u)

File (hide): 7333186f400598c⋯.png (407.05 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, fb hates dykes.png) (h) (u)

Folks FB is NOT all about money/sharing your shit - this is about restructuring thought; silencing; denying free thought; and censoring Religion.

"Franciscan University posted a series of ads on Facebook Friday to promote some of its online theology programs, but it says one of them was rejected because it included the Crucifixion of Christ on the San Damiano Cross."

"In a blog post, the university acknowledges that Facebook is correct to say that the Crucifixion of Christ was "sensational and excessively violent," but they castigated Facebook for rejecting the image. They used multiple Bible verses to describe the Crucifixion:"…

"And it was certainly excessively violent: a man scourged to within an inch of his life, nailed naked to a cross and left to die, all the hate of all the sin in the world poured out its wrath upon his humanity."

April 2, 2018 5:19 pm

http:// freebeacon.com/culture/franciscan-university-facebook-rejected-ad-shows-jesus-cross/


86a67c (37) No.896111

File (hide): 5fc726a8f292686⋯.png (5.1 KB, 225x225, 1:1, we know who you are.png) (h) (u)

>>707401 (OP)

So whatcha wearin' tonight - a hubby sends his wife while on travel by using FB. Thinking this is a private comm between he and his wife. NOPE

This get's sickening by day. Talk about a blackmail list Zuck was amassing - I mean think about it- millions for Hillary/post Hillary to have in their back pocket to years on end.

Who else kept blackmail lists whom we've read about recently. Not conflating the two, but to point out how all this data is subjected to future blackmail. Especially to politicians and others who would PAY to have blackmail material at their disposal on the opponents.

The implications of this are HUGE world wide.

The DOJ/needs to confiscate. Pipe dream? I don't know, but gotta think there is a "retain all records" as of xx date that they could issue and order on FB. Let's hope Sessions has already done this under the radar.

The US Govt Cloud services contracts need to come under IG review. ALL of them - no matter when they started.

Don't let the Google shooting incident distract. Yes Google is the next target. This shooter and her father are a separate topic from this thread. Keep it simple here re: FB

https:// www.cnbc.com/2018/04/04/facebook-most-people-could-have-had-their-public-profile-scraped.html


86a67c (37) No.986384>>986552 >>989641

>>707401 (OP)

Senator Klobuchar (totally scripted w/ FB in advance.

Full assault on Data Analytics

No mention of Hussein's use of ALL of FB's database

"Bundled permissions"

Dems pandering.

No prep from these AT ALL

These Congressional people are so stupid


86a67c (37) No.986552>>986605

>>986384

Cruz is up at bat.

Not listening to blather from MZ

MZ not answering questions

"Deplorables" = MZ shifting/not answering again


86a67c (37) No.986605>>987694 >>989641

>>986552

break now - cspan expecting hearing to go to 6pm EST -

take notes, take notes

take screen shots, take screen shots

watch live here: they will be back after the potty break.

https:// www.c-span.org/video/?443543-1/facebook-ceo-mark-zuckerberg-testifies-data-protection


86a67c (37) No.987694>>987819 >>989641

>>986605

Does FB have a fiduciary to not share medical data. MZ worth consideration

Senator Fisher - Rock on.

1. "How many data categories to you collect?

MZ plays dumb/ahhhhh I will follow-up (cover MZ ass)

2. Does FB store all what users click on? M deflects/hints a follow=up will come.

3. Are device locations w/OUT permissions - does FB share.

Some DEMS put on the outrage front, but gave MZ a total pass to submit after the fact. "After the fact" = is code word don't bother, or if you do, it won't go on record.

Sen Hiromo (D, HI) is controlled by her staff and is her ONLY life line. Uninformed/reading talking points - VOTE HER OUT.

MZ's continued defense is " don't worry" AI will solve the problem - i.e. humans no matter. (Editor scream - these STUPID Sentators/Congressmen's Staff/ are what's in control of everything now.

I have more notes to post. want to keep listening which I hope you are all doing as well.


86a67c (37) No.987819>>987913

>>987694

another potty break

look who is taking to who


86a67c (37) No.987913>>987924 >>989641

>>987819

Quex - does FB screen ads?

MZ says AI, more tools (deflect onto AI for an issues)

Dan Sullivan:

Is FB too powerful?

MZ blather - never answers the question.

Sullivan: Is FB the biggest advertiser or the biggest TECH co. MZ doesn

't answer that


86a67c (37) No.987924>>989641

>>987913

live mic for about 4 minutes - hope you all caught that


86a67c (37) No.988013>>988128 >>989641

Gary Peorus (crappy note taking) D MI for sure

Is mining audio from FB done?

MZ- "NO".

MZ then back tracks w/ shit ball deflection.

MZ says AI = transparency - contradicts prior statement on AI

I've probably missed a lot. keep up w/ me anons.

back to going live hearing


86a67c (37) No.988128>>988161 >>989641

>>988013

Kamala Harris up at bat down.

Typical script to lay blame on Trump.

Building campaign talk points and vids. "I has your defender".

AGAIN no questions about Hussein's use of FB. This is an infomercial in the making


86a67c (37) No.988161>>988202 >>989641

>>988128

Oh now Kamala is pushing the "foreign propaganda agenda.

Keep track anons


86a67c (37) No.988202>>988271 >>989641

>>988161

Sen Kennedy

Your user agreement sucks

and just now, the CSPAN feed was cut via a Yahoo browser. Not accusing…just saying


86a67c (37) No.988271>>989641

>>988202

Could you put all information out there

MZ in theory we could, BUT we would never do that

(Editor Note: BS - they did that for Hussein.)

MZ lied again


86a67c (37) No.988299>>988370 >>989641

>>988>>988271

Tammy Baldwin (D) WI

Again a totally scripted response w/ team FB.

She agrees w/ everything he says. Move on DB


86a67c (37) No.988370>>988451 >>989641

>>988299

Yo Ron Johnson -

You FAIL.

No prior info RE: FB w/ Obama campaign.

Another stupid one to vote out.

The more you watch how inept these elected officials are - the more you to get a better candidate.

MZ contiunes blather w/ uninformed members.

I think all the smart ANONS here could do a better job of preparing this nitwits "officials"

How sad.

Moving on to the next speaker


86a67c (37) No.988451>>988485 >>989641

>>988370

Yo Maggie Hassan (D, NH)

Don't rest on your laurels as hosting the 1st primaries. Flase importance, and let's shift tha to TX.

Moving on to her questiong

Live Free or Die

Bottom line- will not care a lick about NH voters. She punched a ticket is all


86a67c (37) No.988485>>988576 >>989641

>>988451

Shelly More (R, WV)

If you delete your FB is it truely gone?

MZ and SM skipped this. Not sure why.

If you live in WV you need ti ask her about this absence of clarification.

Bottom line - she is on talking points. BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.

WV - think again


86a67c (37) No.988576>>988800 >>989641

>>988485

On to Sen Cortez(D.NV)

Another fake concern to her constituents.

Referring to the CPA (are u f'ing kidding me) article.

The web that rubs both ways CPA. Gross.

Onwards…

Blame, blame, blame - in no effective way other that bring up CPR.

moving on to next one


c82822 (1) No.988618

File (hide): 8c96ad102ab141e⋯.png (354.23 KB, 657x462, 219:154, faceboom-ibor.png) (h) (u)

I'm loving this Anons. Tear it up.


86a67c (37) No.988800>>989641

>>988576

Cory Gardber (R, CO)

Way too many pints he nailed MZ on.

MZ blather, blame, deflect. never answered and of this questions.

The hearing is over. Leaving you all w/ the last link I have for this hearing. It should be available in CSPAN always.

MZ, however, gets the last word

FB data existing on foreign servers?

Who owns the data and where is that stored?

FB is making 40-50B a year

Asked of MZ

1. If I own that data, I know it's being breached.

2> If I own it I can stop it.

MZ never answers

YUP

MZ goes back into his attorney hole.

We shall see.

To hear MZ's testimony:

https:// www.c-span.org/video/?443543-1/facebook-ceo-mark-zuckerberg-testifies-data-protection


6acc69 (1) No.989013

File (hide): a9d90fa9b09f7a9⋯.png (24.27 KB, 877x198, 877:198, adroll2.png) (h) (u)

>>976840

>AdRoll involved with Facebook and Twitter tracking of users


86a67c (37) No.989641

>>988800

Baker

Find more others if you an

Zuck Testimony

>>986384

>>986605

>>987694

>>987913

>>987924

>>988013

>>988128

>>988161

>>988202

>>988271

>>988299

>>988370

>>988451

>>988485

>>988576

>>988800

https:// www.c-span.org/video/?443543-1/facebook-ceo-mark-zuckerberg-testifies-data-protection


eb9895 (2) No.994568

Why KILL facebook?

MZ will use this 'data breach' scandal to justify censorship, even though the real issue was manipulation, control and privacy invasion. He's been throwing shade that he should have censored 'hate speech' (read: anything not pro-liberal) into the data breach mix which is wholly irrelevant.

As for other organisations, the signal to break up Google is a good move - but Microsoft also needs to be whacked on similar grounds.

Twitter is a grey area. It does censorship, it digs into your private messages, but I haven't seen it try to manipulate people (yet!) and could probably be dealt with some harsh regulations.

Advertising should also get a kick in the balls with a 'no tracking' mandate. Regardless of which side you bat on - targeting specific demographs is racist (and VERY vulnerable to manipulation/division), and this shit is used to manipulate on the fence conservatives.

The real question is why was a "gay vegan" with bizarro dyed hair working with an organisation known for right-leaning ties? Why did CA even admit him into their ranks?

I agree this is a left-leaning shitstorm after they realised they lost, but lets be honest here - Trump didn't win because of facebook. He doesn't even use facebook, and the barrel scraping numbers of so-called 'Russian influence' numbered barely in the thousands - this is despite the fact Dems use illegal voting tactics for hundreds of thousands, and Trump's win was secured via the Dems shitstoning of Bernie Sanders with super-PACs (IE if the Dems hadn't of cheated their best winning candidate Bernie out of top spot… they wouldn't have lost).

They only have themselves to blame.


eb9895 (2) No.994647

Also I would strongly advise 'rediverting' rather than resisting the lib backstab of facebook, so instead whacking FB for aiding CA - whack FB for datamining and manipulation in general, and make it such it can't be used by anyone (scorched earth policy).

It'd be really nice if we could get some freedom of speech provisions going on networks. Maybe an amendment to Section 230 that says a site only gains said protections if they don't censor people, with the exception of legal obligations ALA safe harbour (DMCA etc).

Technically speaking, S.230 is already this, but I think it should be made explicit that they *lose this protection if they censor people* (except when legally obliged, EG copyright), with notable examples being censorship along political spectrum or political lines, worded in such a way that if anyone was to revoke the amendment, you know they supported censorship and political bias.

I'd strongly advise attaching the amendment update into whatever privacy protections you push forward onto networks.

Additionally, you'll want to mandate that any corporations that receive government welfare checks (yeah, you read that right, those money grubbing bastards) are legally obliged to protect people's first amendment rights.

The US government should not fund organisations that censor their own people. If the US government cannot censor people, then it's funds must not be used for censorship either.




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