5ea00e No.7471[Last 50 Posts]
I am thinking about creating a new political ideology, which would act as a unifying factor between everyone to fight the true enemy.
I would basically sell this as a "Socialist Revolution", but only against the Super Rich. Not the middle class. Not the upper middle class. We aren't even coming after you, if you own a business and multiple houses. I mean the limit should be somewhere beyond 100 million dollars.
Why sacrifice all of your social connections just to be played by the Elite. Left and Right doesn't even really exist. It only exists as an artifical propped up enemy, so each side has something to hate. We think of as the Left as insane retards. They think of us as stupid haters. Why not find something that we can all agree on?
The Super Rich need to be punished. The ones that are so rich, that they influence public policy. We can do it humanely. But it's obvious that we don't have not a single fucking Ally up there in the top. They are selfish and only care about themselves. I am not aware of a single behind-the-scenes Rich Guy funding right-wing youtube channels, projects, movements or demontrations. Maybe some of our conservative plus parties, you can find in Europe. But fuck them honestly. Their vision is "a bit less immigration and it being done orderly and legally".
I am sick and tired of being hated by my own people. However I am not abandoning them. It's obvious that Whites are just inherently too good-hearted. But I think we could appeal to them with an attack on the Elite.
What do you think? If you disagree with this, you must be a fucking jew-defending shill or a maga retard, who is ready to sacrifice all of his values for his retarded orange potato just to "TRIGGER DA LIBS".
I already made a thread about this. WE HAVE NOTHING IN COMMON WITH CONSERVATIVES.
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b91f92 No.7474
>>7471
That's great anon i am going to report this to the FBI and call you a faggot terrorist.
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6e980a No.7501
>>7471
100 millions isn't even that much money, loads of people made it through actual hard work.
You're a disgusting commie piece of shit.
>The Super Rich need to be punished
Just do your part. Stop being a mindless consumer.
You could "remove" the "elites" but who is to be targeted has nothing to do with the amount of money they make. And if you were actually serious, you wouldn't have to talking about it on an image board.
You won't start a global revolution by screaming death to the rich. Commies have been doing that since forever. Revolutions are started by ACTING minorities : assassinations, false flags…
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3f8252 No.7736
>>7471
>What do you think? If you disagree with this, you must be a fucking jew-defending shill or a maga retard
>What do you think?
>so long as you agree with me
well, that aside
it's not a bad idea, but the problem is people wouldn't merely limit it to the "super rich"
many would just go off their personal definition of "super rich" and suddenly your movement gets lobbed in with the other socialist losers
I think people on both sides understand, at least to some degree, that the power of money over government is a problem; but the average joe can't be bothered to try and understand/solve the fundamental problem
I don't believe there is some magic "unifying message" to defeat the puppet master in this case
Poland and Hungary are both unified, but only because of their respective populations spreading information
that's pretty much all you can do it seems, however unlike the aforementioned countries we are not a homogeneous people
you can't teach those unwilling to learn (i.e. shitskins), and the future demographics do not bode well for us
I kinda veered into an aimless rant…
TL;DR only thing you can do is spread your knowledge to others and hope the meme spreads to create change; having a half-baked "enemy" doesn't seem like an effective approach
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5ea00e No.7800
>>7501
>100 millions
It's just a ballpark figure.
My actual target is not a numerical value, but the people who control our destinies by having control of the corporations, media, banking and investment banking, film industry, etc.
>You won't start a global revolution by screaming death to the rich. Commies have been doing that since forever.
I wouldn't be against people owning property, lower taxes, lower regulation.
I just want to own the Elite and instead of wasting my time with their puppets, hurt them directly.
>>7736
I would cooperate with rich people, who want to atone for their sins and support the movement. In the end, I am not against them, because they are rich, but because they are not on our side.
>I don't believe there is some magic "unifying message" to defeat the puppet master in this case
Well, at least it's directly targeted at them, which is something new.
Making ourselves look like rude and hateful assholes to the other side, just perpetuates the left-right dichotomy, without ever solving anything.
The Right-Wing has so many good points to appeal to people. We can talk about how there was no real wage growth (adjusted to inflation) for decades. We can talk about how the Elite is making cultural identity into a product, you can sell. They even make female beauty into a product. Now trannies and non-whites can achieve beauty, even without aryan features.
This is all stuff, which we can appeal to normal people. But it gets overshadowed by our desperate support for Conservatives, who trigger the libs, but continue the power of the Elite.
FFS Jared Kushner basically controls all of the appointments for Trump. Trump isn't appointing anyone, it's his jewish son-in-law.
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903e85 No.7818
Your suggestion will destroy America because it fails to distinguish between the two types of rich people.
There are rich people who are rich because they created things. These are merchants.
>Henry Ford creates the production line and makes cars cheap enough that his workers can afford them. He also prints based literature.
There are also rich who are rich because they banded together to steal things. These are evil priests.
>A group of neighboring mayors conspire together to limit the release of new land in their precincts. This drives up the cost of land for working people and delivers the mayors the profits.
The first group should be glorified and the second group should be crucified.
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5ea00e No.7824
>>7818
Listen. Don't just look at exactly what I said. "Destroy the Rich" isn't going to be anyone's party slogan.
Obviously the primary concern are systemic stuff. Like how our monetary system works. With private central banks outside goverment control.
But why should we glorify anyone, who is not on our side? Sure, you created cars, but what did you do to help us, while we are literally being genocided and have our culture destroyed? Where were you?
Anyone feel free to correct me, but I haven't heard anyone on the Right talk about any mysterious donors on our side. Or maybe letters of support coming from high up in the upper class, who support our effort.
Nada. Nothing.
I am even fine, if you are ready to help support us now. Last minute. But if you aren't for us, you are against us and I'd support a "socialist revolution", which targets huge corporations and businesses, who control the destiny of our lives.
If some of us think that there is no hope left and we should just wait for the collapse, why can't we try this at least? A direct strike at the actual enemy. We are not forming gangs to beat up black people in the streets. We don't just suffer in hatred for the actual world.
We strike at the heart of the problem and mask it in something most people can agree with, because they have been conditioned to.
I am honestly a bit stunned that people here, probably Americans even, would defend their now pretty jewish Upper Class against dispossession of their property.
Americans, don't you realize that Jew already were able to play your minds like a fiddle in WW1, because they already controlled your media back then? Think about how much worse it is now, when they had more than a century to subvert and jewify your Anglo Upper Class and supplant it with themselves.
Seriously.
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903e85 No.7829
>>7824
>I'd support a "socialist revolution"
You want to destroy America so that you can grab some loose change on the way. You are the enemy of the people. You will die soon.
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5ea00e No.7832
>>7829
Can you guys stop focusing on words and give me the benefit of doubt?
This is how we would present it to left-wingers to get as much support as we can.
We obviously wouldnt be able to say it's about jews and kikes.
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903e85 No.7834
>>7832
I do not give the children of Satan any benefit at all.
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5ea00e No.7839
>>7832
Btw "Socialism" isn't all that bad. I am German, not an American. I was libertarian for a long time, but not anymore.
Good Socialism would be stuff like Norway owning their own gas reserves, instead of just selling it off to a private company and with the revenue from the Gas creating a National Fund, so that you create permanent prosperity out of limited ressources and share it with the actual people of a country, like they own part of it.
Bad Socialism would be stuff like neglecting to upgrade oil extraction and processing units and just bribe your people with mircrowaves, tvs.
Good Socialism would be some basic national healthcare, so you wouldn't get fucking jewed by the hospital and even charged to hold your baby and even pay for its cicumcision. (wtf America)
Oh, but I am shill, because I would rather be reasonable and not just scream kike, nigger and throw fags from buildings and commies from helicopters, right?
If anyone has any shred of self-awareness, you'd understand that what we did in the past is not the right way forward and we can't just make ourselves disgusting to normal people like that and need to play the optics game.
What better optics to take the property of jews, but mask it as socialism? :)
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c2b0f4 No.7843
I'd support that but I just don't know enough about the economic impacts to pull the trigger if I had to be the one to do so.I'm also a natsoc.
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6e980a No.7864
>>7832
The problem aren't the words, it's your ideas. And the fact you pretend to be right wing while talking like a commie.
Nothing in either you OP nor subsequent posts makes me think of natsoc.
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5ea00e No.7873
>>7864
Yeah, because the hallmark of a Right-Winger is to appear as disgusting as possible to regular people, so the Elite and the Left have their enemy.
In my opinion a proper Fascist would actually look at the root of the problem. A retarded Conservative would bitch about leftie millenials or feminists with blue hair.
WHO IS OUR PRIMARY ENEMY?
If you are Natsoc, you should be able to answer that. Who is our direct enemy and the source of all of our problems.
It's an upperclass, that is hostile to us. White People.
You aren't innocent, just because you are a goy and do us harm.
Now all I did was to formulate this into a demand in a very socially accepted manner.
I am honestly so fucking blackpilled at the moment. I am wondering whether I am even part of the right movement. Don't we want to fucking win? It seems like the people that are actually true to our principles either despair and dream about a collapse, while not doing anything. Or they cuck out and waste all their energy on people like Trump.
And all you can say is that I sound like a "commie"? I only want to attack the Elite at the top. Not regular people. The people who own the media, hollywood, banks, central banks, investment banks, etc, who want to destroy us and turn our countries into glorified economic zones for their global homo project.
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1c3ab5 No.7994
>What do you think?
https://web.archive.org/web/20160308115012/http://ropeculture.org/2016/03/03/demanders/
>The saying “beggars can’t be choosers” really is the slogan of the mass movement, as the goal is to increase quantity, so what does it matter who joins? It’s still a +1, right? That wouldn’t be a problem for any other movement – but ours? In our Struggle? It is devastating as it goes entirely against our principles. The desire for quantity means casting a wide net, it means compromises, it means softening one’s principles and making exceptions, every possible step back until you are left with something bigger but less defined, an amorphous gray blob with no real power to it.
>It is this mentality that leads to inconceivably retarded propositions such as the bronies being a source of supporters for the cause. Thus the mass movement approach becomes the preaching of an inclusive tent, to harbor quantity rather than quality, where principles are cast aside in favor of the misguided utilitarian belief in the “strength of the many“. This is fundamentaly based on begging: it is a position of weakness from the start, the position of someone who has no control, no power, no leverage and no strength. Thus, he seeks strength in numbers, and is willing to compromise, whore himself, lower his standards (if he had any to begin with), and essentially extend a hand with a cup out to the world and say out loud “please give me a chance“… And the world simply passes you by with a look of disdain, disgust, sympathy or pity, and the second two won’t grant you victory any more than the first.
>Fanatics demand that one meets the standards of his vision, to maintain its strength and purity. The beggar’s mass movement attempting to appeal to everyone or many different groups has no vision at all by virtue of it becoming obscured by the interests of all other participants. The chooser’s mass movement picking the least unfavorable option available is one that compromises on its vision, which ultimately means that it likewise has no vision.
We can see this already happening in here
>>7824
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456245 No.8294
>>7471
Kill all the rich and kill all the poor; and anyone who slips into either category. Both are parasitic on the middle class. It is time for the productive class to thrive without being weighed down by dead weight all the time.
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13e534 No.8301
>>7873
>upper class is our primary enemy
You want to enlist us to kill the upper class and steal their stuff. Then you will enlist criminals to kill the us and steal our stuff. Then you will enlist Muslims to kill the criminals and steal their stuff. Finally the Muslims will kill you and establish a caliphate.
>inb4 it will stop just at the top
It never stops at the top. Never, ever in the history of socialist movements. It keeps going until you kill each other or until somebody, like Stalin, stops you.
>>8294
Almost correct. HLvM says kill the high and the low. High being Brahmans and low being trannies, immigrants, Muslims, gays, etc.
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7112e1 No.8302
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89a965 No.8309
>>7471
>I wanna make an ideology
You've already started off on the wrong foot. If you are making up precepts and advocating them instead of Truth and Virtue then, at best, you are fagging around and distracting people from the true fight. If you don't believe in objective Truth and Virtue, then you are a leftist who will be the first against the wall when we take over.
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c0b14c No.8312
>>7471
In short, you want communism. Fuck off. All your bunch of failed genetic wastes will be killed when the time soon comes.
>Socialist Revolution
Translation: "We want communism to have a new name".
>but only against the Super Rich
Name THE JEWS. There is no other group ruining OUR planet. IT IS ALWAYS THE JEWS. Way to expose yourself as another leftard. Also, you failed bunch always start with "only (insert name)", then go on to parasite everyone anyway. You deserve the rope. and you will be killed in due time for being a communist.
>We think of as the Left as insane retards
They are.
>The Super Rich need to be punished
THE JEWS must be killed. You "punish the muh super rich", then you start accusing any working and successful person as "being super rich" in order to take away his wealth rightfully earned trough work, like all communist scum.
>I am sick and tired of being hated by my own people
>It's obvious that Whites are just inherently too good-hearted. But I think we could appeal to them with an attack on the Elite.
And then, you expose yourself as being a non-white subhuman.
White people will genocide all others and take the world that rightfully belongs to us. OR, we will make sure that nobody else gets anything. We either win, or nobody wins.
>pic related
Women aren't people. Any movement or the smallest of ideas that tries to present itself with women imagery is guaranteed to fail, as it is being done by pussy worshipers, a.k.a, failed men.
The world is to be ruled men only. White men. Everyone else is either an enemy to be killed, or a tool to be used (such as women).
This >>8294 and this >>8301
are the only good solutions to everything. Both THE JEWS/rich and the poor, along with shitskins, trannies, faggots, and invaders from shithole countries are parasites. The middle working class made exclusively of white men, with their tools/women is the only one that must be allowed to live. A man who cannot contribute to his society must be killed for being a (rich, poor, faggot or non-white) parasite.
Every single leftist such as you will be killed by us when we (soon) take over the control back in our hands.
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456245 No.8313
>>8312
I like the way you are thinking about things. There is no reason at all to let parasites live at our expense.
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82482b No.8316
>>7834
Keep caring about you precious collective identity while I keep shitting on the American flag
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8c81e8 No.8318
>>8316
Nigger I know that nation states based on a national identity are an abomination that was used to replace nation states based on racial and cultural identity. Where do you think you are?
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82482b No.8320
>>8318
In a country where the white man is dying, and the majority of armed whites will never support a state that'll stop that from happening. So I'll keep pounding my beautiful pale gf with my mixed race peepee.
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8c81e8 No.8322
>>8320
We will lynch you, kill any spawn you produce, and sell your gf to the highest bidder, if there are any who will take her.
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456245 No.8323
>>8320
Your own hand is not a 'gf'
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456245 No.8325
>>8322
There won't be any takers. But don't worry it is imaginary on his part.
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82482b No.8329
>>8322
Lol, knowing your skin color can't bring you the warmth of a woman is enough for me
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8c81e8 No.8339
>>8329
It is not my skin color that brings me the warmth of a woman. It is my ability to scare the living shit out of anybody who crosses me.
Whites are superior. White men are the apex predator. I can see the fear in the eyes of the nigger when he finally realizes what I am.
I am a killer ape, ruthless and intelligent and destructive, and my day in the sun is only just beginning.
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c8b034 No.8344
>>7471
Tbh I like to define myself as a Socialist, but I don't like your approach.
If the revolutionary movement is sold to the present-day masses of weak soyboys fueled by resentment against anything they perceive as "oppressive", the ensuing revolution will go full leftard and turn any country into a 3rd world shithole.
>The Super Rich need to be punished
I smell resentment in your post. Would you happen to be jewish?
Anyway, the most important thing to do first is to make our standards of quality higher and higher and to grow the number of high quality people in the countries we are still a majority.
>WE HAVE NOTHING IN COMMON WITH CONSERVATIVES.
Yes: We are White.
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70d863 No.8346
I consider myself conservative, but I would be for any political party that would simply approve of abolishing central banks and taxing those who make the top 10% wealth [wealth as in asset and property ownership] to help those in dire need [like the disabled]. I think we also need to have sound monetary policy, which is really the only economic system proven to work. Without a currency backed by something of value, we have fiat, we have nothing but insolvency and it is not sustainable long-term. We also need some of our basic Constitutional rights, like the right to bear arms for self defense, that is what keeps crime and despotism from consuming all of society. Above all, we need to criminalize lobbyists. No bribery for politicians or government officials what-so-ever. Anyone who is party to bribery [officials and lobbyists] found guilty should be hung, live in public for all to see.
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456245 No.8350
>>8346
You keep talking like the rest of the world wants the same things you do. They don't. Their goal is to keep you from having ANY of those things you mentioned. They hate ALL OF THAT because they are dependents on government and they like dependency.
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456245 No.8351
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412222 No.8354
>>8350
And that's a big part of the fucking problem and that's exactly why this world is turning into third world garbage.
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bcc2a4 No.8355
>The Super Rich need to be punished.
Why?
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456245 No.8364
>>8354
The world is the third world because it has third worlders in it. If it was a European only planet, none of this or these issues would even exist. Dream the only dream that is worth dreaming…a European only planet.
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f7e00a No.8383
>>8364
>European only planet
Minus the race traitors.
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456245 No.8489
>>8383
At that point there would be nothing to betray us too…but yes, that DNA should not live and continue.
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97ccdb No.8491
>>7471
>muh evil rich people
>we
fuck off
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ccfc38 No.8506
>>7471
You need to read Plato, Descartes, Kant, and Hegel. Only then will you be taken seriously. Right now you are a joke.
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563098 No.8544
>>7471
>I mean the limit should be somewhere beyond 100 million dollars.
So say 100 million would be fine but 100.001 million would be affected? IMO we need a logarithmic tax scale, billionaires are the problem but the very rich need to contribute more as well, that's only fair.
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456245 No.8625
>>8509
>freshman liberal arts major has read them.
Well that kind of destroys the idea that they can communicate value that is not innate within the person reading them.
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559afe No.8703
>>7471
> hurr durr elite
> rich man bad
Commiefag detected.
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0cc785 No.8712
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7ef7f1 No.8753
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7ef7f1 No.8754
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1354ec No.10235
How about this… Socialism for the poor, middle class, moderately wealthy etc. with pure capitolism for the wealthy? Make an upper-middle class lifestyle (100k/yr) earned income is where taxes start. 250k a year is where they crank up and 10mm a year is where things kinda top-out. Thing is if you do this the those at the top of this system will just bribe their way out of it. That was how the original income tax was sold to the US Citizen in the first place. Not gonna lie but I think a ZERO income tax on whites with children is the way to go. Simple as that.
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d69a6b No.10585
>>7471
You should think about getting a job instead of being a fucking NEET who tries to come up with the stupidest shit possible
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80c6f7 No.10703
>>7471
>Why sacrifice all of your social connections just to be played by the Elite. Left and Right doesn't even really exist. It only exists as an artifical propped up enemy, so each side has something to hate. We think of as the Left as insane retards. They think of us as stupid haters. Why not find something that we can all agree on?
why does this part make sense to me?
The problem is, is all the degeneracy that the left promotes
homosexuality
racemixing
the browning of america
etc…
That is the difference.
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80c6f7 No.10707
>>7471
well, OP, if you are still around, I wouldn't mind discussing this further, but just to let you know, since I use a VPN, my user ID will change the next time I restart my computer.
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6ad1d1 No.20110
>>7471
>a new concept
nigga everyone already has this concept. what are you 12? there needs to be an age limit here.
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6ad1d1 No.20111
>>8509
ok snowflake, I wouldn't let the big brain books hurt your VALUABLE opinions
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c9e52a No.40669
>>7471
sounds a bit too much like mussolini for my taste
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259e21 No.49258
>>8506
This. And you'll have to read many more, like Aristotle, Machiavelli, Hobbes, Montesquieu Rousseau, Marx, Nietzsche, Heidegger.
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