bcfacf No.44909
The TPUSA vs. Groypers war is over - TPUSA won: Why did Nick Fuentes and the Groypers lose their war against TPUSA so badly? Currently, TPUSA has:
>Direct access to the president and his top administration officials (Groypers have none)
>Tens of millions of dollars and several different wealthy donors (Groypers have much less money)
>Direct access to mainstream conservative media and national publishing platforms, like book related (Groypers have no such thing)
>A high level of 'visibility' on the right and participation in conservative groups and events (Groypers can't even get into CPAC)
>A high level of direct POLITICAL and legislative influence on actual lawmakers (Groypers have basically none)
>A massive online presence, including multiple platforms and distribution methods (Nick can't even keep a simple Youtube channel going, something that even half-senile old people can manage)
Where did it go wrong for the Nikkers?
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9e4694 No.44916
They didn't pull triggers. Just like the Yellow Vests when they had Macron isolated on that street. Loaded guns are problem solvers.
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5c7450 No.44918
>>44909
So, does that mean they subscribed to PewDiePie?
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7bf61a No.44920
What the fuck is a groyper?
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50036c No.44923
>>44909
>Where did it go wrong for the Nikkers?
Groypers were associated as a "race" centered group, when it's just an ideological one. All traditionalists don't want faggots and trannies in their circle like TPUSA has, but they don't want to be "alt right" either.
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8802ee No.44928
>>44920
https://www.infowars.com/faced-with-hard-questions-from-groypers-tpusa-shuts-down-live-streams-rigs-qa-screams-racism/>>44920
Apparently two are conservative organizations, Turning Point USA being pro-establishment cuckservatives and Groypers being considered more 'fringe' for calling out corruption from both parties (example: Israeli lobbying, Trump's support for red flag laws, RINOs obsession with big business interests over the peoples' best interests, etc.) Turning Point USA is like Fox News without Tucker Carlson.
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7e0106 No.44931
>>44928
If I had still payed for cable TV, Tucker Carlson would be the ONLY news commentator I could watch because he actually asks tough questions and challenges establishment narratives. Only reason they still let that guy do his show is because he pulls in a whole lot of viewers $$$ for Fox.
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ce5c9c No.44933
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a67b61 No.44936
This is a shill thread. Report and move on.
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5c7450 No.44946
>>44936
>goreposting sagefag
Nobody listen to this 12 year old.
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7bf61a No.44964
>>44928
So a bunch of retarded jew-controlled D&C? Gotcha.
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b24858 No.44977
>>44909
>Where did it go wrong for the Nikkers?
They flew too close to the sun (see: kind of naming the… bankers).
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b6b7b8 No.45125
>>44928
> Groypers being considered more 'fringe' for calling out corruption from both parties
It was literally 5 guys on twitter for a long time, and this shit proved for the 1000th time that moronic followers will latch on to ANYTHING
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b6b7b8 No.45126
>>44936
shit you're right I shouldn't have bumped this faggy fuentes shit. fuck.
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790e27 No.45145
"Muh ovens" was a mistake and he should have stuck to important issues rather than attacking historical sacred cows. You don't win by appealing only to your existing fanbase.
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04b933 No.45165
>>44964
>>44920
Why don't you learn to Google, faggot?
Bump.
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bcfacf No.45233
>>45126
>>45145
>>44964
>>44936
>durr im too pussy to speak my mind irl so everyone that does is a shill
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2b7849 No.45245
>>45233
Not a shill, a hothead. Fuentes had potential and was actually posing a serious threat to TPUSA, but he overextended and gave the enemy the ammunition they craved. He can still be an advocate but I doubt now that he can broach redpills to the mainstream like he was doing before. Being a public figure is walking a tightrope between standing up for what's important and not revealing your true power level.
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97dfd7 No.45248
>>45245
What was he really going to accomplish in the mainstream? The whole "taking over the Gay Old Pedophiles" by voting straight republican tickets and trusting the plan is never going to go anywhere.
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1aa9dd No.45256
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2b7849 No.45258
>>45248
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Fuentes was never about "trusting in the plan." Rather, he wanted undermine the controlled op agenda of "conservatism driving the speed limit" by introducing vital questions that demand answering and would lead scores of white men to the redpill. Because TPUSA is basically Prager U. with a facelift it would hurt their neocon interests as the men they seek to recruit reject their narrative. "What is conservative about homosexuality?" is a legitimate question that people will ask, "how long does it take to bake cookies in a few ovens" is not, at least without a complete distrust in Judaized narratives. You don't want to be a gatekeeper and stop people from further knowledge, but being a gateway to that further knowledge is often necessary. That requires restraint which unfortunately Fuentes lacked.
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b6b7b8 No.45348
>>45245
>actually posing a serious threat to TPUSA
Learn to communications faggot. This was like hobbit rapper trying to get a response out of Trump. Latching onto coattails & trying to gain some traction.
Not bumping this fake eceleb shit
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7d122b No.45599
Serious question:
ARE GROYPERS BASED?
or are they cringe?
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5c7450 No.45648
>>45599
If you have to ask, you don't deserve an answer.
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dbfe91 No.45662
Does any of you have a back-up of America First from YouTube and is kind enough to share?
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c0a2d7 No.45862
Groypers and Nikki Fuentes are fucking LARPers. Nick Fuentes is controlled opposition and is an actual homosexual. Don't forget to sage this bullshit thread
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9330f4 No.45985
>>45258
Go look at his fucking telegram he literally says Sevres times to trust the plan, he forwards shit from cucks like Patrick Casey who shills the spic, and shills for Milo, he isn't worth the cum they ran down his mothers leg he's no less controlled than than Richard Spencer, hell as a Spic he is by default more controlled doubly so being a christkike,
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000000 No.46291
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000000 No.46295
TPUSA = AIPAC
Groyper = /ptg/lite
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