bf4216 No.34749
Epicurus was a very intelligent and good man which could inspire fearless warriors.
>inb4 "materialist"/"hedonist"
He doesnt fit either of these descriptions in any sense of that words. He believed that if god could very well exist, but he would have to be pic related. He literally stated that cheese and bread should be staple food and even said he would be happy with eating this for the rest of his life. Theres also the letter to Menoeceus (https://newepicurean.com/suggested-reading/letter-to-menoeceus/). He believed that happiness should be the highest goal one should have in life and endless accumulation of goods and weatlh does not mean you are going to be happy. Also, there is good reason to believe that a lot of platos ideas are simply wrong. Preaching that religion is the highest virtue of a country, believing in racial bonds, and adhering to nationalism is an aberation of thought as religion seperates us from the bonds of blood and state. The same can be said for his theory of forms. It is abstract nonsense because he is saying that what we see in the world we live in now is just an imitation and is thus a false reality. In that case, what is the point of blood and state?
Which is why a propose a (to my knowledge) new idea: Epiplatonism. As I reject the notion of Epicurus that we should all avoid pain and avoid politics in the persuit of happiness as avoiding these things and not involving yourself in them, could very well mean you will experience pain from others (typically the zog alligned state). I believe that pleasure, freedom, and happiness should be EARNED and fought for when necassary. I also believe that fighting for religious reasons is the anti-thesis of a white nationalist ethnostate as it is killing off our race for no other reason than zealous ideology.
Borrowing from both these two and only including the facts of race, country, and rationality- you will find that both these two ideologies perfectly allign with each other and are in perfect harmony.
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bf4216 No.34751
>>34749
The last image didnt post and refuses to post https://i .pinimg.com/736x/9c/e8/06/9ce806d995f8fb8aecbfde6343744952.jpg
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4ad7be No.34762
>>34749
>Epicurus was a very intelligent and good man which could inspire fearless warriors.
Who could.
Who could inspire fearless warriors, OP.
If you are going to larp as intelligent, you are going to have to be literate first.
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bf4216 No.34779
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a41a64 No.34782
>>34779
>you are going to have to be literate first
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bf4216 No.34783
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a41a64 No.34787
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2b19f4 No.34807
>Could breed warriors
No he couldn't he thought pain was bad like a child. Pain isn't bad it's a motivator a strengther. Just because something hurts does not mean it's bad.
>pleasure, hapiness
Being happy is not the goal, helping in the endless struggle of man and the betterment of the civilization that birthed you and is the only keeper of progress and the upward climb of your people and their natural struggle is the goal.
If people did not sacrifice their autonomy and hapiness for the betterment of the state this culture we would not exist.
Mothers sacrifice their hapiness to birth a child and through that find real hapiness through duty. The solider bleeds next to his comrade and through that effort and protection of his nation finds real hapiness THROUGH DUTY
Duty comes before hapiness and from that duty comes real hapiness.
The hapiness of a creator looking at a New Rome.
The goal should be to find some grand unifying life project you can attach yourself to, something that lives on past you and betters your people as a whole.
Not vague hapiness.
Instead of "Hapiness Liberity and Pleasure"
DUTY SACRIFICE and STRUGGLE
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41389b No.34842
>>34807
>No he couldn't he thought pain was bad
Thats why I said "could". Did you read my post?
>mothers sacrifice their happiness to birth a child
It is the exact opposite. Most women today are unhappy and childless. While women who have children are usually much more happy.
>The solider bleeds next to his comrade
You mean *soldier. Soldiers would rather not sacrifice their commrades in battle, nor would they want to see them shed blood over it.
>Instead of "Hapiness Liberity and Pleasure" DUTY SACRIFICE and STRUGGLE
Yeah bullshit. If I cant have happiness, liberty, and pleasure, then there is no point in defending that state AND there is absolutely no reason for me to sacrifice or owe allegiance to such a state.
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2b19f4 No.34854
>>34842
Yes mothers sacrifice hapiness through duty for the more transient and bodily "pleasure". That's the difference, pleasure isn't true hapiness and is not the goal. It's simply your body saying "Yes that feels good". Homosexuals, Drug Addicts and Chronic Masturbators feel pleasure through their acts. Doesn't mean it's good. And infact is a terrible goal as if your only aim is to simply obtain more pleasure where do you stop? The needle or the free sex?
A true solider would be willing to sacrifice his life if it meant the countiation of his people. I would rather die than have my people killed.
You think the only goal of the state is to serve your hedonistic ideals, your morals are alien to me non-Aryan.
The goal of the state is to better or strengthen the nation and if by it's own action it is leading the nation to it's death or decay it is the duty of the people to overthrow it.
But a true Aryan Nationstate has earned my sacrifice.
And what do you mean by "liberty"?
The liberty to lie, to engage in acts detrimental to the national health?
I would not pause for a second to dissmantle these libertys that lead directly to national decay. Such as the freedom of the press which gives the Jewish press freedom to lie and lead the people astray.
There are no unalienable rights, just duty and obligation from which those rights are earned. These "rights" couldn't even exist without the state in the first place.
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2b19f4 No.34860
March with me brother, reject hedonism, embrace duty to your folk over all!
Unfurl the flag of the Hakenkreuz, it's the only way!
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64757a No.34881
>>34749
Let me give this a shot.
>Evil Exist.
No. Its an abstract human concept that is self fulfilling. It implies goodness which is also a human concept. What is good to the spider is evil to the fly. Yet both the fly and spider are but treats for the birds. And man, as we see now, for all his claim to hierarchy, can be rendered pointless in the eyes of nature by the smallest of all beings. Viruses. From there the cycle continues upwards again. Nature is not a pyramid but a wheel. Humans are another spoke. The knowledge of Good and Evil was a sin for it is not real but a trap that the mind will fall prey to once they attempt to solve the riddle. Its a mental Sarlacc pit. It'll give you Links Disease. This is why Śūnyatā is the highest form of consciousness.
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2e9818 No.34940
>if god is all-knowing, he would know what we would do if we were tested, therefore no need to test us
I know that if I have a healthy diet and lift, I will get muscular. Does that mean there's no need for me to eat healthy and lift?
If a god as described in the bible exists, he created mandkind to become as gods by our own hand, despite free will. This doesn't mean every human will, just mankind, at some point, and god would know when and how because he's omniscient. He'd also probably give minor nudges that ensure it happens so as to eventually recycle every eternal soul in such a way that all of them are saved in the end, if he's a benevolent god who loves his creations. Nudges ranging from revelations turning into the bible, to stuff like the great flood, which on a godly scale are most likely both extremely minor.
Of course we have no way of knowing, so I just try to live my life in a way I feel is good, and I'll see (or not see) the outcome when I'm dead.
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5cb3ea No.34968
take this bullshit samefagging to /phil/ where it belongs
this is /pnd/
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2e9818 No.34977
>>34968
>politics, news, debate and shitflinging
There's nothing about this thread that isn't allowed on this board
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9c03c2 No.35019
>>34749
Epicurus was a faggot and even in his day he was thoroughly exposed as a fraud by the stoa.
>CY+6
>not being a stoicist
I shiggy diggy
Also, OP is such a colossal faggot, his addiction to dick has cost him is literacy.
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1cd1f1 No.35032
>>34749
>muh state
Race and religion are above any state. An individual is more important than the state.
Fighting for religion is the epitome of a living human being.
No more nanny state.
>muh happiness
>muh pleasure
Happy "people" become lazy and complacent.
"People" that partake in pleasure become nothing more than hedonistic soulless carcasses, much like modern leftists and all jews.
The pursue of happiness is the pursue of the weak.
The pursue of pleasure is the pursue of the incompetent.
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8f2430 No.35115
>>35019
>"cost him is"
Uh oh, looks like we have another aDICKt.
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2b19f4 No.35205
>>35032
Your nationstate is the main protector and uplifter of the people, an without it the countiued survival of your people would be rocky at worst and degenerate parasites at best.
What sort of "people" would be fine with such an existance?
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4ebe20 No.37763
Better slaveshits than usual this time. Have a bump so people can see more of what submissive liars y’all really are.
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117e9d No.38133
>>34749
> He literally stated that cheese and bread should be staple food and even said he would be happy with eating this for the rest of his life.
Greeks do make good pizza
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4ad798 No.79620
>Could breed warriors
No he couldn't he thought pain was bad like a child. Pain isn't bad it's a motivator a strengther. Just because something hurts does not mean it's bad.
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