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>>19130

How to stop that from happening: violence.

Ignore the laws that go against your beliefs, and kill anyone benefiting from those laws. Impose your will as the law itself.

How do we stop this:

we need to take control of society itself before the government gets full control.

>>19130

Well written, anon.

I started picking up on traces of this concept after thinking about US society in comparison to Orwell's conceptual world.

In 1984, it is primarily the power of the Government that forces it's citizens conform to a standard. Citizens are required to have screens (surveillance) in their homes, and not step outside of societal standards at all.

In comparison, American society does indeed seem to be driven almost entirely by cultural pressure to conform. Conform with your purchases, conform with your morals, conform with your social media habits.

It's my opinion that society did not end up this way on its own. Although humanity does tend towards this lemming example, our propensity towards this lifestyle has been and will continue to be exploited by those more powerful than us.

How do we wake up? I have no idea. I think someone needs to figure out how to turn the Left against our collective masters. If a message that turned the malice of the left against the Government as a whole could be made.. perhaps that would do it. The key here is for America to unite as one against our masters.

>>19584

There is also much societal pressure to conform.

We all know that we live in a sick society today.

To say one is, "Well Adjusted," means that the person is well adjusted to a sick society, therefore making that individual as sick as the society that he or she is, "Well Adjusted," to.

It is only what society, in general, thinks is, "Old-Fashioned," and, "Weird," which may be the actual healthy standards that we can measure off of to determine if an individual is mentally and spiritually healthy.

I tell people this information to their faces almost every day and I'm not afraid to talk about this. Whenever someone says that someone else is not normal in some form, I bring these points up.

Yes, I get the mouth-breather stare quite often. I'm not sure that they do that because they are realizing something or that they are just incapable of individual thoughts and ideas.

People, generally, are fed thoughts and ideas every day, whether it is from Faceb00k, twi++er, the news, television commercials, billboard ads, or anything else that's publicly available. The advertisers want people to buy into, "An Idea." Maybe the idea is to approve of a product so that you will buy it, and other times it is to approve of the idea of mixed-race couples having a mixed-race child so that the observer can be more comfortable with that idea. Government Spying - Wire-tapping - Censorship - Speech against jews being called hate crimes - Mandatory registration of weapons - sending your personal information over the internet - The list goes on.

The more you feed these ideas to people, the more that they become callous to the idea, and therefore they start to ignore the fact that they are being fed information constantly so they start becoming passive. Finally, they accept these programmed ideas.

This is what happened to the, "Conservative Movement."

They became, "Permissives."

P E R M I S S I V E

I look through my life so far and I take stock of what I have permitted to happen, whether it was to me, or others. I am guilty of being a, "Permissive," in the past, and sometimes I still do it today, although to a much lesser extent.

It is up to every individual to take a stand inside of their value system, and to not compromise. We can't depend of the Government to fix it. They are among the greatest purveyors of this sick society in which we live. They are the biggest, "Permissives," there are today.

Well, I've said enough I guess. Have a great day and enjoy the sunshine.

>>19590

Again, well met anon.

The absurd amount of conditioning that each adult in America is subjected to is certainly to blame here. I feel that people are becoming 'permissive', as you say, at younger and younger ages.

I'm unsure as to why I personally entered into a period in my life where I was actively finding my own conditioning and rooting it out. It was almost a natural response to the realization that I had been conditioned by the churches I grew up in, and my well-meaning parents.

Many people do not tend towards this mindset of challenging themselves, and as such, become stuck in their ways. Truly, I think that many people are so stuck in who they have let themselves become that they are incapable of change. Even radical events in their life would be more likely to cause mental breaks, not a change of view.

>>19592

I think the 'lemming' example is perfectly reasonable, however the name could most likely use a change. The term 'lemming' aside, don't you agree with the basic premise of the graphic?

Well since Fascism is inherently based on the truth all we need to do is educate people and through society (where is where most lemmings get their morals) it will be enforced and spread if need be.

And since what is good for the society is good for the indivual in the long term (like zero unemployment through the application of the natural order) the lemming's belief will be reinforced.

That's where things like Hitler's Youth and govermental instead of (((private control))) of the schools comes in.

Censorship is always there and unavoidable it's just a question of whether it works for the truth and the national health or decadence and self-intrest. Hitler talked about this when he explained why he didn't care much about dissenters as their children "are already in my camp, who are you?"

>>19166

t. mossadi

>>19633

> all we need to do is educate people

not practical.

Its an uphill battle

it will not happen that way

Everything needs to be taken away first.

- take away their Sunday barbecues

- take away their cell phones

- take away their Cable News station

- take away their internet

- take away their electricity

- take away their gasoline

- take away their Supermarkets

- take away their money

- take away their sense of security

only then, people will be ripe for change.

until then, nothing will happen. People are too comfortable.

MAKE THE PLAYING FIELD LEVEL

>>19794

You will never do this. You will call me a fed for saying you will never do this. Anyone who gives detailed instructions on how to accomplish this (in a manner that will cause you to never be caught) is also called a fed, and you will still not do anything.

>>19794

First, fuck off with fed bullshit

Second, let's say that you personally "level the playing field" or it is leveled by a natural disaster, like Hurricane Catrina over the entire country.

People will get uncomfortable. Why would they run TO YOU instead of running to THE JEWS ?

What will you offer those Whites for them to run to you ? How can you offer them a sense of security better than corrupt oligarchs would

?

In the case of a shit-so-bad-we-are-Yugoslavia 2.0 type scenario you will have White women running to be in the harem of some Jewish international banker and White men running to whatever remnant of government for protection and don't give this shit about how your militia will be better at doing that than the US military, who at that point might go rogue to install a military dictatorship sponsored by Jewish oligarchs.

Or do you think you will have more power in order to offer these people security and comfort to run to you instead of the military and moneyed international oligarchs ?

This is a dumb idea and if you are not glow-in-dark you are a dangerous LARPer. You suck

>>19794

I see the one who glows. You don't need to take anything away just subvert them to better ideals.

This takes big events to show the negatives of the left and then events to show the right as better.

Once this happens there will be a culture shift and societal law will ultimate shift as well. Right now in the USA there is a culture war for full control over themselves and societal law as a whole. We are not truly united with the same culture yet. (((they))) know this and want to use this divide to warp societal law to their control. We just need to stop this civilly. Also people understand and like civil actions more. Violence is only a last resort in most cases including this one.

>>20416

>>19823

>>20420

>no, u

kek. anon was just stating the truth. status quo until large swaths of the homelands are severely depressed. golden dawn won majorities after greece collapsed. people need privation before they see some sense in the world and their place as a distinct group among competing markets and outright racial enemies.

Simple saying going around and I think it's very true: limit the government or the government will limit you. Government is like any other gang, when they get too big and have too much power, they will dominate the land as their own turf and everyone else is looked at as labor to exploit/control and make revenue from. So the lesson that younger generations should be learning is limit government, or the government will limit you!

>>20416

>torpedo tells whites to never do anything, never fight back, and never even talk about it

>and says that jews are better than whites in every way and that whites have nothing to offer their own people, but jews do

Reminder that no posts from tor have ever been good or should ever be listened to.

>>20424

But this will never happen, and whites will continue to be exterminated.

>>20416

Once the goverment starts breaking down by any means it does. It stops being able to control power and the like, we simply swoop in with militias take control the local powergrid, the water purification centers set people to work farming and rebuilding the economy the national socialist agraianan way which is very easy to apply and create self-suffiecent resource centers.

Violence is the supreme authority from which all authority we simply will supply the threat of violence thus authority.

This will of course need people but less people than any mass movement, and this is nessasary since the procuring of the amount of numbers needed for a mass movement is impossible.

The only thing that would be against us locally is the local police.

>>20448

That's why the state and the nationshould be one, so anything that's good for the state is good for the nation. Like the NSDAP's Germany.

>>19794

This is of course after the current goverment falls. I'm simply disagreeing with making people question the moral law as any morality that's axiom is "What's good for my nation" is inherently Fascist.

>>20459

that's what the turks thought during their conquest of the balkans. once the european population numbers fall below levels to support the zoo animals then we'll clean out the pens. greatest problem would be mongoloids assuming our burden.

>>20475

>during their conquest of the balkans

Which remains majority Muslim and is polluted with disgusting Arabic genes to this day… And growing.

>fall below levels to support

Then we get Rhodesia and South Africa… where whites still won’t fight back.

>>20476

It's getting bad we already lost Kosovo, Repulic Srpska is next. To many non White Serbians passing themselves off as Serbs. And the U.S is doing what it always does. Bombing anyone who wants freedom and not to be replaced.

In the future there will be no Bosnia or Albania or there will be no us.