/pnd/ - Politics, News, Debate

>>12621

They sort themselves into brackets, that is why the reddit boys go to reddit and they are confused. They are instinctively cannot sort out "threats" brought to them by the media.

>>12621

Oral innoculation is the lowest converting form of intake for hormones, many of which do not even metabolize and just pass through the urine/feces.

With that said, if I were to eat 44mg/testosterone per day, that would put me at 300mg/wk which is pretty atypical of TRT dosage depending on your doctor/goals, would generally land you at 2x the recommended dosage.

Long and short: weaponized soy, indeed!

I don't mean to derail but will eating an impossible burger every day prevent a woman from getting pregnant?

>>12633

It naturally selects and the soyboys do not have the greatest testosterone receptors.

>>12635

But i also think that the plastic shit in general has a great impact, relatively.

>>12621

You have no source on how much estrogen the vegan burger has. What studies did Dr. Stangle do? Where's the proof for his claim?

FUCK OFF BACK TO 4CUCK

FUCK OFF BACK TO 4CUCK

ALL YOU FAGGOTS BRING HERE ARE SHILLS AND NIGGER-TIER POSTS FROM FAGS WHO DON'T KNOW HOW TO THING CRITICALLY

WHO TOLD 4CUCK ABOUT /PND/

>Putting literal insecticide in burgers and people still buy it

TOP KEK

>>12646

Why do asians have small dinks? It is half cultural and a lot of plastic. Giventhere is an upset in the hormone distribution. Personally i think the culture of fear contributes equally do the creation of soyboys.

>>12646

^^he's right you know?

https://www.tsln.com/news/stangle-impossible-burgers-are-made-of-what/

No links at all to the study/studies he's referencing in the article. Worth noting

>>12672

If the best you can come up with is the size of asian's dicks, you haven't been to asia. Up to 20% of thai men dress as women. No one talking about soy mentions this…

I don't know the english spelling, but it's pronounced "katoy". I'm sure if you search it, you can find out more about it.

>>12621

lots of things cause Gynecomastia (man boobs) like SMOKING WEED

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/cannabis-can-cause-man-boobs-us-surgeon-claims-8986357.html

>>12621

Murder soyboys on sight.

>>12700

I wish i could do that anon.

>>12621

I am a soy consuming homosexual and there's nothing wrong with that at all

>>12621

Fuck you faggot

>>12739

>I want a HJ

<But you're the gross faggot

>>12637

Whether the impact is greater or not, plastic is indeed very harmful: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-7761895/Humans-exposed-44-TIMES-BPA-thought.html

Also hormones from contraceptive pills excreted through urine end up in the water supply: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2012/jun/02/water-system-toxic-contraceptive-pill

But there's also the mental aspect, men aren't only inadvertently exposed to estrogens, they also choose to consume soy, otherwise have a shitty diet and act like stereotypical soyboys, or worse, become trannies. This is what it's about.

>>12646

TRIGGERED!

I think you need a Man's seed in your sissy ass

https://graphics.reuters.com/ENVIRONMENT-PLASTIC/0100B4TF2MQ/index.html

People could be ingesting the equivalent of a credit card of plastic a week, a recent study by WWF International concluded, mainly in drinking water but also via sources like shellfish, which tend to be eaten whole so the plastic in their digestive systems is also consumed.

Based on the findings of the study, Reuters created the following images to illustrate what this amount of plastic actually looks like over various time periods.

Every week

5 grams of plastic

That’s about the same weight as a plastic bottle cap and enough shredded plastic to fill a porcelain soup spoon.

Every month

21 grams of plastic

That’s about the same weight as five casino dice and enough shredded plastic to half-fill a rice bowl.

Every 6 months

125 grams of plastic

That’s enough yellow shredded plastic flakes to fill a cereal bowl, as pictured below.

Every year

250 grams of plastic

That’s a heaped dinner plate’s worth of shredded plastic, as pictured below.

Things need to hurry up, and enclomiphene citrate needs to be prescribed. That, nofap, and cold showers, and one will be the diametric opposite of soy.

>>12739

I have man boobs and this is true.

>>12807

The soyboy behaviour is mainly psychological.

>>13679

I think it's both. Testosterone in the West has been dropping for decades. It's probably also because we've been at peace for far too long, and aside from those in NATO that overthrow governments for their Jew masters, most of the populace is rather weak and doughy.

>>12621

>eating four impossible whoppers per day

No one's going to eat four fucking burg-

>Amerimutt

Oh

>>13657

>a recent study by WWF International

>WWF

kek, gets me every time!

>>12691

That is the most bullshit article I've ever read. You should be ashamed of yourself for posting that here.

>>13680

>Shit in the food lowers our levels naturally

>Psychological conditioning and brainwashing gives us a weaker mind and perhaps also leads to physical drops as a result

>Genetics and plenty of low tier men and women breeding

>Big populations, maybe some kind of response from nature to cull the weak?

>Easy living, no hardship or struggle

>>12807

I think you need to stop making shit threads here and go back to the 50-iq dump known as 4cuck. This place is intended for deep discussion, not parroting unsourced claims like a retard

>>12646

Bump because you can’t hide this.

>>14034

Too late. You can’t hide it.

>>12630

>They sort themselves into brackets, that is why the reddit boys go to reddit and they are confused.

I don't understand.

>>14034

Posters like you are why shit like this is allowed to continue unabated, while you wasted so much space on /pol/ before the site change flooding the catalog with threads simping after some slut that an heroed in the woods, or some "former" porn star who felt bad.

>>13915

Why red onions and not normal onions?

>>12666 ;)

In case a Jew eats it? who knows?

>>14424

>We triggered him good, boys.

he's right tho

>>12690

> Up to 20% of thai men dress as women. No one talking about soy mentions this

Is this supposed to be a counter-argument to the feminizing effect of soy, cause if yes, you are doing it wrong.

>>12621

Did Sentient Soy rape God? Was God's Ego Death caused by Sentient Soy?

>>12690

Yes because Thai boys and Asians as a whole have a lower skeltal muscle mass and estrogen levels than white men.

>>16178

>lab rat

That is the truth.

>>16191

As i said the least effort, how do you destroy a group or lobotomize it aka create discord trannies, since they are already in an artificial environment, you further the exploitation points. Usually the "gamers" have no social skills are lonely nerds and are outcasts. Then you give them the tools (discord), those tools already exists in my "time", aka irc and teamspeak. But we had certain morals and not that shit "i flush my personality down the drain shit". It is a distraction, a gamification. Because in all your essence you are pussies and not real man, slaves so to say, and you hate me for saying that. BUt wait until your delusion becomes reality, when the cunts and the soyboys take over and "guide" you to something that has no acutal meaning in reality. That is why i despise you. You are a in essence a bunch of rats and not of "playful" characters. You jsut have to look at the real thing.

>>16194

Never been in a fight, never been with a woman, never broke the law other than ordering drugs from the deep web. You see woman as your equals in parts that should be soley reserved for you, you worship greta. You are the dancing and singing scum of docile animals. YOu get told. In essence you got told.

>>16195

Your essence got told, by simple input and output. A mush of nothingness, with cat ears and penis rings. That is why i dont respect you. Usually it was mano a mano and it stopped there, but now you have to be nice to people, because a discord tranny might take offence. Well the logical conclusion is to find your own discrod trannies. Together we are strong (against single individuals) because we seek our masculinity in the ashes or in parts all over our DISCORD. We seek in it sophistication but there is nothing that will ease your pain because you are not a man and never will be you fucking disgrace.

>>16198

The "" marks are like the cat ears, it implies that you somehow resemble a man. And you tolerate that, because you tolerate everything, and at the same time you are offended, like the fat disgraceful linux cunt you are. You try to sniff out passwords for people that dont matter to get your glee, or shall i say your peepee. IN essence you are usefull machine, that is operated by psychopaths people that appear that way and weak minded faggots. How do you like that.

>>16201

You use the word gaslighted unironically, because you are weak minded from the get go. No substance, no will, hail greta, hail trump, hail our souless overlords they shall guide you, yoiu fuckig disgrace.

>>16203

But you like hackers, do you know what they do, they unironically sneak into some unimportants spastics pc and look at the data. Do you know how imbecilic that sounds.

Tell a random person on the street what they think of that, but great pride be with you, you repressed homosexual. Too much internetz for your feeble sexuality. You do it for the great nothing, nothing you hack into shit for nothing. It doesnt matter. You became a nothingness better wear your cat ears and shovel shit in a kibbuz. I mean what did you actually achieve, nothing, you achieved nothing. You made things worse you dumb fucking discord trannies, my advice would be, be a fucking man or a god, but not, we want to be slaves, and hope to be treated well. And as someone that gives advice you choose old bitter men and cunts. How smart is that? Old bitter men that is your essence, and psychopaths. Good combination for a fullfilling life.

>>16205

"men" with no honor or dignity. Just a bunch of cucks that are gamifyied. You know in "my day" that isnt 15 years ago, you would be the laughing stock of the internet, and now here you are, the "pinnacle". YOu even involve females for the offset chance of pussy because they will sniff out your inherent defenctiveness, because you never had the privilege to grow up as a man.

>livestock news

Feminine low IQ OP despite eating meat with animal estrogens

>>16208

You never had the privilege to grow up as a child, a youth, a man. You grow up as alogrithms frankensteinarama. And you cant let loose. You became a cat "" eared hacker, someone that shifts around your sould randomly with no substance, guess what comes out of that.

So is it okay to put soy sauce on Chinese food? Is this one of the problems with Asians?

>>16265

It is their obidience maybe that is why they have little dicks. I only ate chinese food onceor twice it was pretty good. Also most of the asian people besides the breggars were very polite.

>>16271

But does their soy sauce have the same health risks for men?

>>16285

No the soy doesnt make small dinks it is the obidience.

>>16265

Asian's bodies have slightly different biochemistry due to their diet and climate, so they don't get fucked up by soy sauce as much as Whites do (soy sauce isn't even nearly as harmful as 44 milligramme estrogen burger or soylent but could fuck you up if you ingest too much, I would not recommend it at all, though).

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-7862917/Call-research-long-term-impact-meat-alternatives.html

>Popular meat-free burgers, sausages and bacon sold in British supermarkets can contain high amounts of salt, experts have warned.

>Some products, including quarter pounders made by Quorn, have almost twice as much salt as a large portion of McDonald’s fries.

>An independent body has now called for more research into the dangers of eating the meat substitutes, which can also be high in fat and calories.

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2020/jan/05/red-meat-diet-modern-vegetables-lack-nutrients-fightback-veganism

>Advocates of red meat will begin a fightback against the growth of veganism this week at the UK’s biggest farming conference, with claims that eating lamb and beef is vital because some plants and fish are being drained of their nutrition.

>In a speech at the Oxford Farming Conference, Alice Stanton will tell ministers, farmers and environmentalists that key nutrients in some fruits, vegetables and grains have dropped by up to 50% over 50 years.

>Stanton, professor of cardiovascular pharmacology at the Royal College of Surgeons in Ireland, said nutrition levels had dropped because farmers were trying to meet a demand for cheap food. “For plant-based foods, there’s been drops in vitamins and key electrolytes by up to 50% over the past 50 years because of the genetic selection for large volume and uniformity of shape and appearance, so the things look good on the shelves. There hasn’t been selection for nutrient content,” she told the Observer.

I already had tits most of my life. Think I could open a patreon if I eat enough of these?

https://www.rt.com/news/479111-soybean-oil-change-mice-brain/

New research has shown that despite being marketed as a healthy alternative, soybean oil, America’s most popular oil, causes neurological changes in the brains of mice, and may contribute to autism and dementia in humans.

Extracted from the seeds of soybeans and used in everything from fast food to animal feed and even baby formula, soybean oil is easily the most widely consumed oil in the US, ubiquitous in the national cuisine.

It’s in McDonald’s fries, Pizza Hut crust, and the “healthy” 9-grain bread used for your Subway sandwich.

A research team from University of California, Riverside has been studying the impact of soybean oil for several years. They previously found that it induces diabetes and obesity in mice, hardly surprising given that vegetable oils are high in saturated and unsaturated fatty acids. By now, most people know that eating too much fried food is bad for your ticker.

More worryingly, it even affected over 100 of the mice’s genes, including one for controlling oxytocin, the love and bonding hormone. Soybean-fed mice showed lower levels of oxytocin in the hypothalamus. Other genes affected had to do with metabolic and hormone pathways, including the insulin pathway, synonymous with diabetes. There was also upregulation of genes associated with anxiety, depression, and schizophrenia.

Considering the evidence, the authors believe that soybean oil could increase the risk of Parkinson’s disease, Alzheimer’s disease, and autism. However, there is no concrete proof yet that soybean oil causes these conditions, since this research was conducted on male mice only. But mice are used as a model organism for human health for a reason, as a mammal species they have similar tissues and genetics to us, and it is reasonable to provisionally project some of the authors’ health warnings onto humans.

Lead author Poonamjot Deol said: “If there’s one message I want people to take away, it’s this: reduce consumption of soybean oil.”

>>12621

I looked into it. There's as much estrogen in an impossible burger as there is in 11 HRT estrogen pills. Almost two weeks of what a troon would need.

>>19111

That's more dependent on your shoulder width, jawline, muscle definition, and body hair

>>12672

They eat soy sauce and tofu all the time.

https://www.rt.com/news/479111-soybean-oil-change-mice-brain/

>New research has shown that despite being marketed as a healthy alternative, soybean oil, America’s most popular oil, causes neurological changes in the brains of mice, and may contribute to autism and dementia in humans.

>But what is really shocking about their latest findings is the effect soybean oil seems to have on the brain.

>From Alzheimer’s to autism

>The study is published in Endocrinology, a scientific journal, and it shows that when soybean oil is fed to mice it has major impact on their hypothalamus, an area of the brain crucial for regulating mood and behaviour.

>More worryingly, it even affected over 100 of the mice’s genes, including one for controlling oxytocin, the love and bonding hormone. Soybean-fed mice showed lower levels of oxytocin in the hypothalamus. Other genes affected had to do with metabolic and hormone pathways, including the insulin pathway, synonymous with diabetes. There was also upregulation of genes associated with anxiety, depression, and schizophrenia.

>Considering the evidence, the authors believe that soybean oil could increase the risk of Parkinson’s disease, Alzheimer’s disease, and autism. However, there is no concrete proof yet that soybean oil causes these conditions, since this research was conducted on male mice only. But mice are used as a model organism for human health for a reason, as a mammal species they have similar tissues and genetics to us, and it is reasonable to provisionally project some of the authors’ health warnings onto humans.

>Lead author Poonamjot Deol said: “If there’s one message I want people to take away, it’s this: reduce consumption of soybean oil.”

Extracted from the seeds of soybeans and used in everything from fast food to animal feed and even baby formula, soybean oil is easily the most widely consumed oil in the US, ubiquitous in the national cuisine.

>It’s in McDonald’s fries, Pizza Hut crust, and the “healthy” 9-grain bread used for your Subway sandwich.

>A research team from University of California, Riverside has been studying the impact of soybean oil for several years. They previously found that it induces diabetes and obesity in mice, hardly surprising given that vegetable oils are high in saturated and unsaturated fatty acids. By now, most people know that eating too much fried food is bad for your ticker.

Reminder that only niggers eat meat. Go vegan or at the very least vegetarian. Being eco and animal friendly is the white man’s way.

>>32663

No, jew, we won’t be doing what you want.

>>32663

>being this historically illiterate

Proof that veganism is mind cancer

>>32674

>>32675

>Doesn’t know that Hitler was a vegetarian

Found the kike

>>32676

>Doesn't know that historical humans are omnivores

>doesn't realize that without meat humanity would never have survived

Found the glowey

>>32676

>doesn’t know

Try again. We won’t be doing what you want. We will not stop eating meat. Your very existence is a lie.

>>32677

>doesn’t know that we aren’t living 50,000 years ago anymore

Ok Sambo.

>>32680

>yes Goy! Let’s continue abusing and torturing animals for McDonald’s burgers to make more fat fucks with heart disease!

>let’s keep shitting up the environment and make make more urban cesspools for niggers and Pakis!

Sure thing, Rabbi

>>32709

>strawman because he can’t reply

>OY VEY YOU HAVE TO DO THINGS THE WAY JEWS WANT THEM

>OR YOU CAN’T DO THEM AT ALL

>THERE ARE NO OTHER WAYS TO EAT MEAT GOYIM

Remember to report this user for being paid to post here. We will not stop eating meat. Ever.

>>32663

Human beings eat meat, retard. You think that advanced brain of yours could evolve by eating low calories plants all the time? You think that rotating wrist of yours is for picking berries? Those canines? That binocular vision? You are a man, a strong, proud hunter, king of endurance running, master of the projectile, wielder of spears. Dont be a pussy and throw away your genetic heritage like the panda.

>>32755

There is. You are lying. We will never stop eating meat. You are paid to post here. You have failed.

>>32755

I know you don't believe what you're saying, but I find it hilarious that there are people that legitimately think there are no nutrients that you'll miss out on if you eat a plant based diet. B12 is a very important one, and that is only one of them.

Keep your retarded mouth shut lmao. Nobody here is going to stop eating meat.

>>32809

You can get vitamin B12 from fortified cereals. You don’t need meat for that.

>>32792

>MUH HERITAGE

Just how much meat do you think your ancestors ate? The overwhelming majority of their diet was plant-based and they only occasionally had meat. First, it wasn’t easy to hunt. And second, later on with farming, livestock were expensive. It was better to use them for eggs, milk and cheese than to slaughter them for meat. Sure, they did it once in a while, but that wasn’t their primary diet.

You eat way more meat now than your ancestors ever did. And they meat is loaded with all kinds of shit like antibiotics and hormones.

>>32834

Too bad. We’re going to keep eating meat. Unless you’ve had a dentist take out your incisors and canines, you’re a hypocrite.

>>32840

Nope still have them. They help me take nice bites out of fruits and veggies. But you go on being a Jew and torturing animals so you can eat your Amerifat burger.

>>32881

Literally failed miserably. No one will ever do anything you say.

>>32881

How does vegan moralfaggotry make its way to the board that wants to holocaust other humans let alone care about that being done to chickens?

>>32978

>>33025

You forgot to change your IP

>>33147

I’ll pass on the meat. Don’t need it. Since I have stopped eating meat, I have more energy, my bad cholesterol went way down, I sleep much better, I shit a lot more and just generally feel better.

>nobles ate meat

But Anon, niggers eat lots of meat. They’re geniuses, right?

>>33147

>days

probably months lmao

>It is true that our kiked-out clownworld and its industrialized meat production is absolutely horrendous, and it needs to be changed, but abandoning meat is just as wrong as treating livestock the way we are now. If you really want to protect animals, buy your meat from places you know that treat their livestock the way they should be treated.

THIS

I buy bulk organic (no hormones), grass-fed, pasture raised beef from farmers I met at a local farmer's market. They treat their animals well, they live decent natural lives.

Imagine eating grain-fed, hormoned-up, antibiotic'd, sad and frightened cows that lived horrible lives in chains and cages. It literally makes for poorer quality chemical composition of the meat, producing illness in the consumer

>I live by several farms with happy cows, pigs and chickens and their produce tastes excellent and is the way it should be. I also hunt wild hogs and deer and you won't find better meat in any supermarket.

Pay attention guys, this is the only way forward for us. Based.

>>32884

Never eating meat is not the same as not eating ANY animal products whatsoever. To maintain that muscle mass he has to be eating eggs and other animal byproducts that provide very bioavailable protein.

>>33471

No one will ever believe a word you say. You’ve been spamming the same jewish talking points for weeks now. It’s over. The more you type, the more meat we eat. You’ve completely failed. Blow your brains out.

>>33471

>This guy never ate meat in his life.

So he has brain issues? You vegan homo's can't survive without B12, B12 pills or injections contain stuff that won from the stomach of cows.

Veganism is just another luxury of the modern world to which we revolt, if the modern world collapses you people will be the first to try cannibalism.

>>38356

You don't need meat or animal products to get a gram of protein for every lbs of body fat. If you NEED meat to get that protein, you are just lazy and uncreative - it's also not as nutritionally healthy or balanced to just pound eggs and chicken into you constantly if you incorporate plant based foods.

I have been a vegetarian for years and I haven't had any problems with getting enough protein. You do not need meat what so ever to get good gains and have a healthy body but it is like a quick way to cheat and circumvent good diet but just eating loads of meat and eggs.

>>33147

Humans ate meat very rarely, even before the dawn of agriculture, and I think you have some things mixed up. Humans didn't have tools to hunt, or had even learned to make fires, we lived almost exclusively as gatherers and not hunters for the beginning of our spieces. My point is basically, contrary to what many omnivores believe, that eating meat is not something so natural to humans. We did it to survive, after we developed enough to build sophisticated tools capable of the job, we weren't made like that, we became that, so we can still become something more instead of thinking we have to live in the same way just because that is what they did back then.

>After all, if we abandon meat altogether, cows, pigs and chickens lose their right to exist.

This is just saying that you personally don't believe these animals have a right to exist unless they are being raised for your personal consumption. It's a bit of a mental gymnastic, but I do understand the rationale behind it, I just don't agree. There are plenty of animals we don't eat, and there are such things as wild cows, pigs, chickens etc which survive fine without domestication. I think we just have a bias towards our own culture which is fine unless you are willing to recognise were it can be better or what parts should just be removed. I also believe in souls and reincarnation, given that, killing animals for food is simply reprehensible to me and the same as eating my pet when they die.

If you love an animal and see them as a person, as a friend, or part of the family, they are not food anymore. We don't feel anything for these animals so we are indifferent to their deaths as long as they satisfy sensual pleasures in our mouths. It is only in very minute and rare circumstances that it is essential for survival. I choose not to eat meat because I feel it is a sin against God.

I also think people are becoming worse than radical or militant vegans with idiotic troll statements that just aim to work people up. To me, the more people who get really up themselves and condescending about others who don't eat meat then it's actually going to make people reflect more so I'm glad for it. The more trolls you get coming out saying "You're not even a real human being if you don't eat meat and deserve to be killed" will inevitably push people towards eating less of it who are reasonable and can see lunacy. Making statements like that just serves the opposite effect of what they intend overall because it shows how heartless and unempathic a lot of these people are. And of course, narcissists, psychopaths etc who have no care for anyone but themselves, who see the world only through their eyes and cannot relate to others, those people will always choose the option that serves themselves instead of other life, so should we really even bother with people who have no empathy on either side of it?

Personally I am 185lbs at just over 10% body fat. I've worked out for about 7 years consistently and I haven't eaten meat in that whole time. I've drank milk, but no eggs or butter. And I know guys from the gym, or even people around me, who piled chicken upon chicken into their body and whose bodies look like shit because their diets suck and they have bad mentality. Of course, I know people who do the whole kilos of chicken every day thing as well who are jacked, but is that because of the chicken or how much eat they meat? No. I get the same amount of nutrition, I push my body to the limit and let it grow - anyone who says you need to eat meat to function is either in-denial, completely ignorant, or lying. There is no debate on that. There are so many people throughout history who ate meat and who didn't, or even so many more you can see in the current year, which occupy both ends of the spectrum that is irrelevant. Eating meat doesn't make you smarter, stronger, or healthier, no matter how many times you simply say that.

>>33463

Black people eat so much meat, thats why fried chicken is a meme. So they eat tons of meat, and you get an abundance of white people who eat fruit. Saying veganism is some Jewish conspiracy just proves 100% you are not acting out of reason but out of childish pathology and bias

>>32886

Did you know Hitler was a vegetarian?

As was Plato, Tolstoy, Da Vinci, Einstein etc

So that whole "if you don't eat meat your brain won't develop to your potential and you will be naturally weaker" - is clearly nothing more than a pathologically wired defence mechanism or attack on others. You're just displaying your inablity to percieve things outside your own line of bias and psychology. Yourself comes before truth, because you can't handle the truth, so you make up a bunch of abrasive crap to make yourself feel better and put others down with no basis in reality. You're delusional, essentially, and could not accept facts for what they are because you will always have the psychological wiring of looking for a way to deconstruct anything which you don't resonate with, whether that be weakness, manipulation, or entire global conspiracies directed at you. It's all really about you and your inner sensitivities, it's nothing about truth or ethics or the sancity of life - only about you and what you want, what you think tastes good, and how you think everyone else should live their lives.

Soybeans don't contain estrogen

There is also almond milk, rice milk, coconut milk, so many types of plant based milks. If you control your diet in a way that is aware of your hormonal management, what difference does it make if you eat meat?

If anything, eating meat were the animals have been jacked to the brim with growth hormone, even your organic pasture fed cows get that stuff in them, then you eat the body of that animal there by consuming the hormones of the animal. And that will be all estrogen, plus other weird shit, and very little test. Given that, but your own "waaa I don't wanna become a pathetic little soy boy so I better keep eating my burgers" just exposes you as an intellectual fraud. If you don't eat meat, or are a vegan, it doesn't mean you are pumping soy into you. That whole thing is a cultural and social problem, not a dietary one. As has been clearly evidenced multiple times its quite possible to be extremely intelligent and jacked without eating meat - fact. Simple as that.

If you have good genetics your body is gonna do the work.

>>38402

Being a vegetarian is not the same as being a vegan and I was saying HE CANNOT BE A VEGAN, HE MUST EAT EGGS AND OTHER ANIMAL BYPRODUCTS THAT ARE NOT MEAT TO SUSTAIN HIS MUSCLE MASS, IT IS NOT POSSIBLE TO DO SO WITHOUT EATING SUCH THINGS, that is all.

>>38405

He was a vegetarian for health reasons not because he had ethical or moral reasons not to do not use that bullshit pilpul here

>>38414

https://www.menshealth.com/nutrition/a19539170/soys-negative-effects/

Yes it does, it's not the exact same estrogen as in mammals but it is still a form of estrogen and acts as such in the body, and can and has caused men to grow breast tissue and other strange effects that are harmful to men because we are not supposed to have this shit happen to us.

OP seems to believe people drink six glasses of soymilk in a day, or perhaps that they eat out at Burger Ding for four(?) meals a day.

>>38407

If we had any data on what any of those mens diets were like in their development years especially, I guarantee they ate meat as young boys. They were absolutely NOT lifelong vegetarians. Einstein was not exactly as brilliant a man as he is made out to be as he, an anti-white jew, is known to have stolen the math that was the basis for his theories from the white men who actually did the work. All he did was put it together, admirable, but not nearly as revolutionary as it seems.

>>38418

Nobody is saying it makes that much of a difference if you go vegetarian the way you describe and manage as you describe it. What we take issue with is you claiming to have the moral superiority to make or convince any of us to not eat meat. This is because despite some of the weirdness you describe is still the absolute best source for a great number of vital minerals and nutrients, as well as protein, all of which including the specific type of protein humans can process much more easily and efficiently than those directly from plants. Meaning that if you want the most bang for your buck, you have to eat meat. While processing plant protein is possible it is inefficient and wastes far more energy in the entire process than eating meat does and you leave far more wasted because there is much in plants that we cannot process. Half the shit you said is patently false the estrogen level in any amount of beef is negligible and is not affected by the growth hormone that they are given. The levels of growth hormone consumed is again also negligible, entirely harmless. As for other shit, as long as the levels of the "weird shit" within the meat remain too low to be a harm and do nothing to the consumer of the meat, it isn't valid to use as a reason not to eat meat. It's only a valid reason to push for reform of farming practices and ranging practices and processing practices so that that shit doesn't get into the meat if it turns out to be a harm.

>>38486

>OP seems to believe people drink six glasses of soymilk in a day

some do, and if you talk about dangers, that's 'a crazy conspiracy theory'

>half the thread is legit schizophrenics searching for (((conspiracy theories))) hidden in a reddit username combined with some cartoon

>the other half is off topic veganspam

This board turned to shit as soon as all the old spammers from nu/pol/ arrived.