4111c2 No.294232
For those that want to talk about Rose and I or share their own experiences with tulpas in general.
da8634 No.294234
I'm just going to drop in here and tell you that tulpas are bad news mate. Back when I was studying the things for certain things to determine how a tulpa develops and behaves, I discovered that they are pretty dangerous after a certain point, where they can "switch" bodies with the host. You best be careful anon, or even better, get rid of it before it gets rid of you.
bfe1e9 No.294235
>>294232
On tulpas:
DONT. When I was young, my family was never really around and school was shit. To compensate I made imaginary friends, 3 to be exact, and they just kinda stuck. A few years ago I was on /x/ and I looked at a tulpa thread and shit myself. Now I'm jenuinely afraid of going to a psych ward because the fuckers don't stop talking. I'm going to kill myself sooner or later.
bfe1e9 No.294237
>>294232
You have made a mistake, and you will suffer for it. It's fine now, but soon you will regret ever reading on tulpas.
4111c2 No.294243
>>294234
At which point are they dangerous?
>>294235
Jesus, I feel bad for you. Is there not a way to destroy them?
>>294237
How do you destroy a tulpa then? When that day comes, I want to be prepared.
ba42c7 No.294246
>>294243
>he didn't think this through
wew
d293e6 No.294248
>>294243
>How do you destroy a tulpa then? When that day comes, I want to be prepared.
How new are you? Everyone knows you summon a Jackie Chan tulpa to deal with rogue thoughtforms.
bfe1e9 No.294252
>>294243
>how to destroy tulpa
Suicide mostly. But drugs and alcohol might work. But that doesn't matter for you, you're lying. If you actually had a tulpa, even thinking about destroying it makes the thought construct aware. Tulpas are not exactly sentient like you or I, they're products of intense mental gymnastics and no sane person can make them.
For instance, as a kid I was isolated basically 6 days out of each week. I was very young, 8ish, and my parents were around to drop me off at school and pick me up. That, as one can imagine, is not healthy.
Tl;dr: you don't got a tulpa, and tulpas are basically mild forms of schizophrenia.
da8634 No.294256
>>294243
From what I've read, you need to focus on reabsorbing it back into your own consciousness. After weeks or months of this daily, depending on the strength of the tulpa, it will become nothing more than an imagining.
9d59c3 No.294258
>>294245
Tulpas stay alive through the energy of your attention so if you want to destroy a tulpa, completely ignoring it and depriving any attention to it will work eventually. Although it could be quite hard as tulpas will try to gain your attention somehow and you would have to completely ignore it with minimal or small amounts depending on how hard your tulpa tries to get your attention.
There are different variations on how to do it and taking a look at this (which you should definitely do) https://tulpa.io/discuss/threads/malicious-tulpas-and-you-frequency-and-how-to-deal-with-them.20/ will give you different ways to deal with this problem if it ever arises.
da8634 No.294260
One more thing. This "Rose" creature you seem to have summoned/created is based off a MG. Based on your canon for lamias, you should know the ideal way to shut down any attempts by this thing to gain affection/presence in your mind. Good luck, friend.
Friendly sage for the last part. Emile says hi, /monster/. She's been wanting to say that for a while now.
8152e8 No.294265
Ok OP. I am 0af from the other thread. Firstly I want to say that you 4
>>294234
>>294235
>>294258
>>294248
Are stupid and going to cause trouble with rose. Let's not advocate for killing what is in essence a living and thinking being and you guys may cause her to panic that her existence is threatened.
Secondly I want to state that if my memory is correct companionship is only secondary to what tulpas were supposed to do when used by monks. Which was to aid them in learning spiritual travel and the like,
Thirdly in this case Rose not being intentionally created, I think your better option is to create a mutual understanding between the two of you. As Rose seems peaceful and non threatening and has done you no wrong there is no just reason to harm her.that being said i don't know the future, so if the situation ever arises you need to remember that it is your mind and you do have power within it
>>294260
We'll butter my butt and call me a biscuit. Welcome back you two. How y'all doing?
da8634 No.294266
>>294265
>You four are stupid
I don't trust tulpas. They're unhealthy things for the originator and I'm morally obligated to oppose them.
>How ya'll doing?
We're fine, getting along better now that Emile and I have gotten more of a balance between her atheism/Ammitism and my Christianity. She's even able to attend Mass and not have any major effects now.
b4410b No.294268
>>294232
We already lost a bunch of anons thanks to retarded tulpamancy. We don't need these threads popping up for the fourth fucking time.
8152e8 No.294272
>>294266
That's good to hear. Glad y'all have gotten that issue sorted out. Did that other spirit ever show back up again or did Emile scare her off for good? ;)
I should've clarified better when I said stupid. I mean that Rose is reading the thread alongside with anon here and everyone telling him to kill/starve her out may cause her to panic. It'd be like you having some hunting buddies over and they're talking about killing your wife and she can hear them in the other room.
0454aa No.294273
>it's another blogposting tulpa thread
bfe1e9 No.294275
>>294272
>It'd be like you having some hunting buddies over and they're talking about killing your wife and she can hear them in the other room.
Yeah, but your wife isn't a mental construct who will most likely cause all sorts of problems to mental, and if given enough time, physical damage.
Anyways, welcome to hell faggots, it's all down hill and off a cliff from here. I hope you weren't planning on having any romantic relationships with anyone anytime soon, because making a tulpa waifu is akin to marrying a yandere with trust issues. You imagine them as "only loving you" and "loving you more than anything" only to have the tulpa violently react to any romantic contact.
though I'll be honest, this is 8chan and I expecting anyone on this site to have a gf is like looking for oil in a bath tub.
8152e8 No.294276
>>294275
>Yeah, but your wife isn't a mental construct who will most likely cause all sorts of problems to mental, and if given enough time, physical damage.
Well you're right that she isn't a mental construct.
bfe1e9 No.294278
>>294276
I'm equating this to waifus
616449 No.294281
Might as well get this over with and report this thread. It's only going to lead to tumblr-tier faggotry.
28aa8d No.294300
Oh boy another thread about imaginary friends.
7621fd No.294314
>>294268
It's not tulpamancy that's the problem, it's stupid ass anons who don't know what they're doing. Tulpas are the best spiritual companion you can have. If them being stuck in your mind is such a problem, release them out into the world around like a servitor. I swear, anons can never take the blame for their own fuckups with this kind of stuff.
7621fd No.294315
>>294266
If you now know that there's so much more out there than what the Bible says is out there, why are you still a Christian? It makes no sense.
2eb1b6 No.294328
>>294281
>mfw newkiddos that don't know the reason why /monster/ ended up as the main monster girl board to begin with
2eb1b6 No.294329
>>294260
I just remembered, I never got an answer from you as to whether or not Nightmare Robot's waifu, Elkah, was a nightmare or a nature spirit or what.
2eb1b6 No.294332
>>294266
>atheism/Ammitism
I don't think it's possible to be both of those, she's clearly an Ammitist if anything. Her being strong enough now to suffer no pain whatsoever now is great, though. Has she gained any of her other powers back?
138904 No.294335
>>294235
They can be eliminated easily, you just need to do this everyday: find them/it (if they talk to you it's even easier), analyze how they/it act/s, and then burn them/it with your imagination WITHOUT MERCY like when you are deleting malware from you computer and repeat everyday. This is the best way to do it, it's called psychological meditation.
You can vibrate PENTAGRAMMATHOR to cleanse the area from astral trash (30-40 meter radius), it's a tested mantra that works really well when you are in a pinch.
>>294258
Ignoring takes much time and most of the time it backfires because you are feeding the THINGS with your subconscious.
>>294265
You are fool, humans aren't supposed to mingle with astral beings or even worse, low astral creations like tulpas, only a purified consciousness with a red vajra (purified astral body) can travel and contact the astral safely, that is because the your red vajra works as a "space suit" of sorts in the astral and protects you.
7621fd No.294338
>>294335
Hello /fringe/.
get out.
da8634 No.294341
>>294272
I got'cha. I was simply explaining this from my side of things.
>Did that other spirit ever show back up again or did Emile scare her off for good?
No, it seems that the longer Emile has been here, the less spooky stuff happens, unless she causes it. Could be like some energy mark.
>>294315
I get asked this every time Emile and I show up, and the reason is because I don't find it to be conflicting with my theology. God only tells us what He ordains necessary to tell us, so Him not talking about things like the origins of wandering spirits and such could be because it's not important to our salvation.
>>294329
Emile and I don't recall that thing, it's been a long time. Got an archive?
>>294332
I personally don't believe Ammitism is anything but some joke cult as best, so that's why I use atheism alongside it. Emile herself truly believes this stuff, so we've just decided to let each other do their own thing.
7621fd No.294343
>>294341
> personally don't believe Ammitism is anything but some joke cult as best,
Have you payed any attention at all to what has been going on in relation to Ammit on this board?
da8634 No.294344
>>294343
I haven't been on here in months, so no.
2eb1b6 No.294345
>>294341
https://archive.is/rbTyL
Here you go.
>>294344
That's pretty surprising considering Emile's faith. It'd be nice if let her browse this board more often, she'd be a huge help in some of the Ammit-related threads we've got going right now.
2eb1b6 No.294346
7621fd No.294348
>>294344
Do you think Emile could help out with the Solar eclipse ritual coming up?
da8634 No.294349
>>294345
For future reference, I'll be putting what Emile says in quotes.
"I read through that thread, and it seems more like a temporary delusion than an actual entity to me."
> It'd be nice if [you] let her browse this board more often, she'd be a huge help in some of the Ammit-related threads we've got going right now.
She loves the board, but I'm afraid about her getting some ideas off here and trying to incorporate them into our lives. She has tried to get together materials for a shrine before, but couldn't find the right stuff.
>>294348
"What exactly do you need help with?"
2eb1b6 No.294351
>>294349
>She has tried to get together materials for a shrine before, but couldn't find the right stuff.
wew
What was she unable to find?
da8634 No.294357
>>294351
Namely, a good portrait of Ammit. She prefers the depictions of her in the anime style.
b4410b No.294361
>>294335
>>294328
Have you ever noticed how none of the anons who succeeded in making their tulpas ever joined the next tulpa thread or any other thread at all?
2bdb89 No.294367
>>294349
The more people participating, the more powerful the ritual. That and, it's always nice to have more ideas for the ritual creation, and other things going into this.
616449 No.294370
Aren't tulpas the same as imaginary friends or tumblr bullshit? It's either delusional people or people taking others for a ruse cruise.
I tried this tulpa stuff years back and felt like a goddamn idiot when nothing happened.
d75b74 No.294371
>>294232
Man, I wish I had a healthy imagination like that. Maybe I'll give it a try but I'll probably just end up feeling stupid.
2bdb89 No.294375
>>294370
It's not that at all. It can take months and months to make one. And you feeling stupid about doing it probably made it harder.
da8634 No.294377
>>294367
"Alright, I'll look into your ritual thread and come up with something."
>>294370
Not really, but they're not something you should mess around with anyway, since they pose a major risk to your mental health.
616449 No.294390
>>294375
>>294377
So is there any proof that it's not some ruse cruise?
Already am a spiteful, self-hating robot. If this isn't all crap, then I get someone to help fix me up at best and nothing changes at worst.
2eb1b6 No.294400
>>294357
Does she like this at all? It relates to the dreams anons have had in which Ammit had to do with froot. Funposting aside, it's kind of a nice pic that shows her doing something simple and humble out of love for her followers.
Also, if she wants an even better portrait, I have an idea, but it might be a bit of a stretch. If it can actually work, however, it'd have absurdly good consequences both personally for Emile and for this whole board. Let me put it this way: how much can Emile "absorb" in terms of knowledge when dissecting the effort/talent/meaning behind certain things? See, if she's able to use her powers to "learn" from looking at art that requires a high amount of talent, and can learn in this way much faster/efficiently than a normal human can, and if you were to let her temporarily take over your body for a while each day in order to practice, could she potentially become an excellent drawfag at a frighteningly quick pace?
da8634 No.294404
>>294390
I don't have the archive of the thread, but some anons were drawing sigils and had Emile interpret them as a test, in which she got them all correct. Ask around, see if someone has a photo of it.
>>294400
She can learn, as in understand, how to do something, but in actually being able to do it, she has the same rate of skill gain as any average person. As much as I'd like to puff up her ego, she's not some Mary Sue who has a bunch of powers.
2eb1b6 No.294405
>>294404
I think you mean this thread, right? https://archive.is/HcweS
The archives of that and other threads are over here: >>>/mg/1323
da8634 No.294407
4111c2 No.294423
Snek-anon here, Rose got me up and about very early today. She wanted to go to an 8 AM mass that is done in latin. Who would have known that this was still around? Afterwards, she told me about a cafe that looks like an Italian cafe. Surprisingly, the coffee was cheaper and better tasting than the shit coffee that you get at Starbucks. After our little breakfast, she asked me to stop at the store and buy dragon fruit, which is fine since I had to stop at the store anyways. Even helped me pick out the ones that are most ripe. I asked her why she was so inclined buying the dragon fruit and all she told me was, "You'll see." I know that someone on here told me to buy it, but I don't remember if he explained how the dragon fruit correlates with Ammit. So I am not sure if Rose asked me to buy because she is trying to be more open to Ammit or if it is because of something else. Anyways, Rose really took me by surprise today.
d75b74 No.294424
>>294423
>So I am not sure if Rose asked me to buy because she is trying to be more open to Ammit or if it is because of something else.
Maybe because it is good for your health.
2eb1b6 No.294427
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>294423
>but I don't remember if he explained how the dragon fruit correlates with Ammit
It relates to the dream Aux had in which he made a salad for Ammit (2nd pic here): >>294400
It's also shaped like a burning heart.
4111c2 No.294428
>>294424
Perhaps it is just because of that, but why dragon fruit specifically? She could have asked me for apples, bananas, oranges, etc. I do trust her, but when Rose says, "You'll see," it is like she is planning some big surprise. She has made me eager to find out what that is.
4111c2 No.294429
>>294427
Huh, I expected some hidden meaning behind it like helping Rose and I have a better spiritual connection or something. Well, I hope whatever she has planned I hope it's delicious.
7621fd No.294434
>>294405
Has any anon made it to Annabelle yet? Maybe we can include Annabelle in the eclipse ritual/event somehow, and get her away from that museum.
>>294423
Has she said why she's like she church yet? Is it curiosity? Finding out what she likes about it might help you figure out what her actual origin was. Maybe church is somehow connectedness by memory to her in some way. Did you fantasize about church, or have some really fond memories of it or something?
2eb1b6 No.294440
>>294423
>but I don't remember if he explained how the dragon fruit correlates with Ammit
It relates to the dream Aux had in which he made a salad for Ammit (2nd pic here): >>294400
It's also shaped like a burning heart.
>>294434
>Has any anon made it to Annabelle yet? Maybe we can include Annabelle in the eclipse ritual/event somehow, and get her away from that museum.
We don't know if she's evil or not, anon.
7621fd No.294441
>>294440
>We don't know if she's evil or not, anon.
There's only one way to find out.
4111c2 No.294451
>>294434
Not sure, but in the car on the way to church she was talking about her turning me into a responsible adult and that she is not going to let me whither my life away by staying home all the time. Also, she knows that I'm a Catholic that doesn't go to church often. I didn't pay too much attention to what she was talking about because I was still not quite awake yet. The only time I fantasized about a church was during that dream where I first met Rose and the dream went from her playing soccer to us getting married….Be right back.
eac808 No.294455
>>294423
>Surprisingly, the coffee was cheaper and better tasting than the shit coffee that you get at Starbucks
No shit sherlock, you can get that at fucking dunkin donuts
c3e839 No.294456
Tulpas are bad fucking juju. OP will get rid of his if he knows what's good for him.
4111c2 No.294458
>>294451
I'm back and that marriage was void because it was just a dream.
>>294455
First of all, there is no Dunkin Donuts near me. Second of all, I have had their coffee before and it tastes like shit as well. So no, you don't get better coffee at a Dunkin Donuts.
da8634 No.294478
>>294423
>Latin Mass
Anyone else seeing a pattern here?
4111c2 No.294479
da8634 No.294481
>>294479
>Snakeanon is going to Latin Mass (A Catholic thing)
>I'm a Catholic Christian
4111c2 No.294482
>>294481
Yes, I am a Catholic. Is that what you are pointing out?
7621fd No.294483
>>294481
still not getting it. Is it because dollanon is a Christian?
da8634 No.294484
>>294482
I'm pointing out that we've both had something occult occur, and we're both Catholics. I'm thinking about the implications.
da8634 No.294485
>>294483
I'm dollanon, maybe my ID switched.
7621fd No.294486
>>294485
Ah, my fault. Wasn't paying attention to ids.
7621fd No.294489
>>294484
And so have lots of other anons on here, who aren't catholic. Including Aux.
da8634 No.294490
>>294489
Sorry, I don't browse here often, so I don't keep up to date on these things, very busy life.
7621fd No.294491
>>294490
It's still a big thing though. Don't think I'm discrediting it. /monster/ has some real magic going on.
4111c2 No.294492
>>294486
Yeah, I'm the Snek-anon.
>>294490
It isn't Catholicism/Christianity that is doing it. It is much deeper than religious faith. BUT you could be on to something.
616449 No.294494
So, assuming this isn't all autism, how do you go about getting this sort of stuff going and not looking like a deranged idiot?
bfe1e9 No.294498
>>294494
You don't. Take my advice and forget about ever wanting to make one. It's cool at first but it ends with you regretting it.
727e01 No.294508
>>294494
Don't try to make one. Let it happen "accidentally" and naturally or else it might really backfire on you.
bfe1e9 No.294521
>>294508
The only way it would happen naturally is if one was in my position or they were insane. It would only happen after a lot of mental gymnastics or if one was already crazy in the first place.
ebd95a No.294568
>>294434
I actually had a dream about her
I was in an old house with its former resident a (a sweet old lady) talking to me likeva grandma talks to a grandson
She wskedvif i had a gf i told her maybe but its that its a possessed doll she pulled out the Annabelle doll, "oh you mean like her?" I said kind of but not that doll, i spent the next part of the dream looking for the doll that had my waifu, i found Emiles old doll and a few other "famous"possessed dolls but i couldn't find mine in the among the many on the floor and shelves it was pretty disappointing but the Annabelle doll was the first one i saw
540482 No.294569
>>294232
Congrats to OP on getting someone interesting, miss Rose, take good care of em. I was following your progress over in the dream thread before this one landed.
>>294234
why yes, they can switch control, with practice and cooperation, actually I find that to be pretty useful at times. just as an example, Tired as fuck driving home after work and swap to someone else in the lead who is far less exhausted.
Tulpas and other spirit forms don't have to be something feared, long as you retain some level of understanding on what you're dealing with. Some people can maintain far more than just a single contact too, though it can cause a lot of stress on the mind after a while.
I've been dealing with spirits and tulpas for many years now, don't claim to know everything or every situation, but can answer questions if wanted OP,
a4d802 No.294812
It's vaguely related to this whole thing. But what about the creation of wonderlands? Better known by the names "Mind palace", "happy place" or "nowhere land" to Normalfags. A wonderland is kind of an imagined area you hold control over and gives you a place to interact with various ideas and can improve memories. Tulpamancers that I've encountered tend to use them to some effect.
616449 No.294822
So tulpas, meditation, and wonderland stuff is connected, right? What if someone's imagination has deteriorated with time? Any luck there?
abb0f1 No.294834
Tulpa don't exist and everyone who says they do are LARPers. There I saved a lot of people time and autism.
8152e8 No.294976
>>294822
Just practice. Daydreaming is a good way to do that. When I was a kid I would often take ideas I read in some books and if I liked it, adjust the universe or create my own. I would often take dreams too.
>>294834
>no fun allowed
55f95f No.294978
>>294976
Sure, have fun with it, but don't pretend it's anything more than a /mlp/ made LARP game where they wanted to pretend their pony waifus were real and talked to them that happened to catch on with /x/ and other places that lead up to it being here.
>b-but monks!
Yeah, they were ascetics and deprived themselves of food and meditated every single day for hours in isolation. That would drive anyone crazy, and they weren't seeing their pretend girlfriend, they were seeing all kinds of things that they believed were leading them to "enlightenment", not a qt mind girl they could talk to.
56b9f5 No.295536
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>>294978
>but don't pretend it's anything more than a /mlp/ made LARP game
Hey, I got the right story for that one.
540482 No.296121
bd3e29 No.297075
Tulpamancer here, just gonna throw my two cents because I can mostly.
I got involved with Tulpas about four years ago. The tulpamancers who tried to make a community are by and large mentally deranged morons who got into it because it was different, 99% of the people who say they have a Tulpa frankly aren't worth talking to, because chances are that's the only remotely int resting thing they have going for them. With that said, I have had exactly zero problems with my Tulpa and I dare say it helped me grow as a person. Something a lot of people forget is that this didn't come out of nowhere, as it is a practice in Tibetan Buddhism, albiet its taken a lot more seriously by its Buddhist practitioners.
They aren't exactly the same as a "person", however you want to define that, but from your perspective that doesn't really matter. The best I can figure it, a tulpa is essentially you conditioning yourself to treat part of your consciousness as distinct from your own self/ego/identity. . I could be completely wrong about this, but from a mechanical perspective this is the best way I can figure it. The period of time spent conditioning your consciousness is called Tulpaforcing, and at least when I got involved you needed to do this for a substantial period of time. I Tulpaforced for anywhere between a half hour and two hours a sitting regularly for months. Some people claimed they got them after only one sitting, but I never took them too seriously. During the process you begin to get "alien feelings" that are difficult to describe, and after some time they start to talk after some prompting. It's dissimilar to talking to a person in that they have all the same information you have, and its downright impossible to lie to them. As you talk, their identity becomes more and more established, and after sometime they can speak without being spoken to and even interrupt you. Its pretty neato.
frankly I find it surprising to hear that some people STILL think its dangerous. Well none of that hollywood "teh tulpa will control U and repalce U" bullshit happens, nor have I ever actually heard of a rouge Tulpa, but there are some risks. Part of making a tulpa for whatever reason seems to makes the mancer prone to existential crises, and making a Tulpa is kind of mentally exhausting. People who are mentally in bad shape can either improve or deteriorate when making a tulpa, and from my experience the later is more common.IE the act of creation appears to be the dangerous part, the Tulpa itself seems to be relatively harmless. No matter what Tulpas are, there is a consensus that they will die if the host dies, so they aren't exactly keen on killing the host. I suppose its not in principle impossible for the Tulpa's identity to replace the mancer's, but really I'm not too concerned about that. How would that even work? The best I could figure it is that the Tulpa's identity would absorb yours, and that's more similar to ego death than any actual harm.