/monster/ - The Last Bastion of Romance★

I'm just going to drop in here and tell you that tulpas are bad news mate. Back when I was studying the things for certain things to determine how a tulpa develops and behaves, I discovered that they are pretty dangerous after a certain point, where they can "switch" bodies with the host. You best be careful anon, or even better, get rid of it before it gets rid of you.

>>294232 (OP)

On tulpas:

DONT. When I was young, my family was never really around and school was shit. To compensate I made imaginary friends, 3 to be exact, and they just kinda stuck. A few years ago I was on /x/ and I looked at a tulpa thread and shit myself. Now I'm jenuinely afraid of going to a psych ward because the fuckers don't stop talking. I'm going to kill myself sooner or later.

>>294232 (OP)

You have made a mistake, and you will suffer for it. It's fine now, but soon you will regret ever reading on tulpas.

>>294234

At which point are they dangerous?

>>294235

Jesus, I feel bad for you. Is there not a way to destroy them?

>>294237

How do you destroy a tulpa then? When that day comes, I want to be prepared.

>>294243

>he didn't think this through

wew

>>294243

>How do you destroy a tulpa then? When that day comes, I want to be prepared.

How new are you? Everyone knows you summon a Jackie Chan tulpa to deal with rogue thoughtforms.

>>294243

>how to destroy tulpa

Suicide mostly. But drugs and alcohol might work. But that doesn't matter for you, you're lying. If you actually had a tulpa, even thinking about destroying it makes the thought construct aware. Tulpas are not exactly sentient like you or I, they're products of intense mental gymnastics and no sane person can make them.

For instance, as a kid I was isolated basically 6 days out of each week. I was very young, 8ish, and my parents were around to drop me off at school and pick me up. That, as one can imagine, is not healthy.

Tl;dr: you don't got a tulpa, and tulpas are basically mild forms of schizophrenia.

>>294243

From what I've read, you need to focus on reabsorbing it back into your own consciousness. After weeks or months of this daily, depending on the strength of the tulpa, it will become nothing more than an imagining.

>>294245

Tulpas stay alive through the energy of your attention so if you want to destroy a tulpa, completely ignoring it and depriving any attention to it will work eventually. Although it could be quite hard as tulpas will try to gain your attention somehow and you would have to completely ignore it with minimal or small amounts depending on how hard your tulpa tries to get your attention.

There are different variations on how to do it and taking a look at this (which you should definitely do) https://tulpa.io/discuss/threads/malicious-tulpas-and-you-frequency-and-how-to-deal-with-them.20/ will give you different ways to deal with this problem if it ever arises.

One more thing. This "Rose" creature you seem to have summoned/created is based off a MG. Based on your canon for lamias, you should know the ideal way to shut down any attempts by this thing to gain affection/presence in your mind. Good luck, friend.

Friendly sage for the last part. Emile says hi, /monster/. She's been wanting to say that for a while now.

Ok OP. I am 0af from the other thread. Firstly I want to say that you 4

>>294234

>>294235

>>294258

>>294248

Are stupid and going to cause trouble with rose. Let's not advocate for killing what is in essence a living and thinking being and you guys may cause her to panic that her existence is threatened.

Secondly I want to state that if my memory is correct companionship is only secondary to what tulpas were supposed to do when used by monks. Which was to aid them in learning spiritual travel and the like,

Thirdly in this case Rose not being intentionally created, I think your better option is to create a mutual understanding between the two of you. As Rose seems peaceful and non threatening and has done you no wrong there is no just reason to harm her.that being said i don't know the future, so if the situation ever arises you need to remember that it is your mind and you do have power within it

>>294260

We'll butter my butt and call me a biscuit. Welcome back you two. How y'all doing?

>>294265

>You four are stupid

I don't trust tulpas. They're unhealthy things for the originator and I'm morally obligated to oppose them.

>How ya'll doing?

We're fine, getting along better now that Emile and I have gotten more of a balance between her atheism/Ammitism and my Christianity. She's even able to attend Mass and not have any major effects now.

>>294266

That's good to hear. Glad y'all have gotten that issue sorted out. Did that other spirit ever show back up again or did Emile scare her off for good? ;)

I should've clarified better when I said stupid. I mean that Rose is reading the thread alongside with anon here and everyone telling him to kill/starve her out may cause her to panic. It'd be like you having some hunting buddies over and they're talking about killing your wife and she can hear them in the other room.

>>294275

>Yeah, but your wife isn't a mental construct who will most likely cause all sorts of problems to mental, and if given enough time, physical damage.

Well you're right that she isn't a mental construct.

>>294276

I'm equating this to waifus

Might as well get this over with and report this thread. It's only going to lead to tumblr-tier faggotry.

Oh boy another thread about imaginary friends.

>>294268

It's not tulpamancy that's the problem, it's stupid ass anons who don't know what they're doing. Tulpas are the best spiritual companion you can have. If them being stuck in your mind is such a problem, release them out into the world around like a servitor. I swear, anons can never take the blame for their own fuckups with this kind of stuff.

>>294266

If you now know that there's so much more out there than what the Bible says is out there, why are you still a Christian? It makes no sense.

>>294266

>atheism/Ammitism

I don't think it's possible to be both of those, she's clearly an Ammitist if anything. Her being strong enough now to suffer no pain whatsoever now is great, though. Has she gained any of her other powers back?

>>294335

Hello /fringe/.

get out.

>>294272

I got'cha. I was simply explaining this from my side of things.

>Did that other spirit ever show back up again or did Emile scare her off for good?

No, it seems that the longer Emile has been here, the less spooky stuff happens, unless she causes it. Could be like some energy mark.

>>294315

I get asked this every time Emile and I show up, and the reason is because I don't find it to be conflicting with my theology. God only tells us what He ordains necessary to tell us, so Him not talking about things like the origins of wandering spirits and such could be because it's not important to our salvation.

>>294329

Emile and I don't recall that thing, it's been a long time. Got an archive?

>>294332

I personally don't believe Ammitism is anything but some joke cult as best, so that's why I use atheism alongside it. Emile herself truly believes this stuff, so we've just decided to let each other do their own thing.

>>294341

> personally don't believe Ammitism is anything but some joke cult as best,

Have you payed any attention at all to what has been going on in relation to Ammit on this board?

>>294343

I haven't been on here in months, so no.

>>294345

*if you

>>294344

Do you think Emile could help out with the Solar eclipse ritual coming up?

>>294345

For future reference, I'll be putting what Emile says in quotes.

"I read through that thread, and it seems more like a temporary delusion than an actual entity to me."

> It'd be nice if [you] let her browse this board more often, she'd be a huge help in some of the Ammit-related threads we've got going right now.

She loves the board, but I'm afraid about her getting some ideas off here and trying to incorporate them into our lives. She has tried to get together materials for a shrine before, but couldn't find the right stuff.

>>294348

"What exactly do you need help with?"

>>294349

>She has tried to get together materials for a shrine before, but couldn't find the right stuff.

wew

What was she unable to find?

>>294351

Namely, a good portrait of Ammit. She prefers the depictions of her in the anime style.

>>294349

The more people participating, the more powerful the ritual. That and, it's always nice to have more ideas for the ritual creation, and other things going into this.

Aren't tulpas the same as imaginary friends or tumblr bullshit? It's either delusional people or people taking others for a ruse cruise.

I tried this tulpa stuff years back and felt like a goddamn idiot when nothing happened.

>>294232 (OP)

Man, I wish I had a healthy imagination like that. Maybe I'll give it a try but I'll probably just end up feeling stupid.

>>294370

It's not that at all. It can take months and months to make one. And you feeling stupid about doing it probably made it harder.

>>294367

"Alright, I'll look into your ritual thread and come up with something."

>>294370

Not really, but they're not something you should mess around with anyway, since they pose a major risk to your mental health.

>>294375

>>294377

So is there any proof that it's not some ruse cruise?

Already am a spiteful, self-hating robot. If this isn't all crap, then I get someone to help fix me up at best and nothing changes at worst.

>>294390

I don't have the archive of the thread, but some anons were drawing sigils and had Emile interpret them as a test, in which she got them all correct. Ask around, see if someone has a photo of it.

>>294400

She can learn, as in understand, how to do something, but in actually being able to do it, she has the same rate of skill gain as any average person. As much as I'd like to puff up her ego, she's not some Mary Sue who has a bunch of powers.

>>294404

I think you mean this thread, right? https://archive.is/HcweS

The archives of that and other threads are over here: >>>/mg/1323

>>294405

Yeah, that's it.

Snek-anon here, Rose got me up and about very early today. She wanted to go to an 8 AM mass that is done in latin. Who would have known that this was still around? Afterwards, she told me about a cafe that looks like an Italian cafe. Surprisingly, the coffee was cheaper and better tasting than the shit coffee that you get at Starbucks. After our little breakfast, she asked me to stop at the store and buy dragon fruit, which is fine since I had to stop at the store anyways. Even helped me pick out the ones that are most ripe. I asked her why she was so inclined buying the dragon fruit and all she told me was, "You'll see." I know that someone on here told me to buy it, but I don't remember if he explained how the dragon fruit correlates with Ammit. So I am not sure if Rose asked me to buy because she is trying to be more open to Ammit or if it is because of something else. Anyways, Rose really took me by surprise today.

>>294423

>So I am not sure if Rose asked me to buy because she is trying to be more open to Ammit or if it is because of something else.

Maybe because it is good for your health.

>>294423

>but I don't remember if he explained how the dragon fruit correlates with Ammit

It relates to the dream Aux had in which he made a salad for Ammit (2nd pic here): >>294400

It's also shaped like a burning heart.

>>294424

Perhaps it is just because of that, but why dragon fruit specifically? She could have asked me for apples, bananas, oranges, etc. I do trust her, but when Rose says, "You'll see," it is like she is planning some big surprise. She has made me eager to find out what that is.

>>294427

Huh, I expected some hidden meaning behind it like helping Rose and I have a better spiritual connection or something. Well, I hope whatever she has planned I hope it's delicious.

>>294405

Has any anon made it to Annabelle yet? Maybe we can include Annabelle in the eclipse ritual/event somehow, and get her away from that museum.

>>294423

Has she said why she's like she church yet? Is it curiosity? Finding out what she likes about it might help you figure out what her actual origin was. Maybe church is somehow connectedness by memory to her in some way. Did you fantasize about church, or have some really fond memories of it or something?

>>294423

>but I don't remember if he explained how the dragon fruit correlates with Ammit

It relates to the dream Aux had in which he made a salad for Ammit (2nd pic here): >>294400

It's also shaped like a burning heart.

>>294434

>Has any anon made it to Annabelle yet? Maybe we can include Annabelle in the eclipse ritual/event somehow, and get her away from that museum.

We don't know if she's evil or not, anon.

>>294440

>We don't know if she's evil or not, anon.

There's only one way to find out.

>>294434

Not sure, but in the car on the way to church she was talking about her turning me into a responsible adult and that she is not going to let me whither my life away by staying home all the time. Also, she knows that I'm a Catholic that doesn't go to church often. I didn't pay too much attention to what she was talking about because I was still not quite awake yet. The only time I fantasized about a church was during that dream where I first met Rose and the dream went from her playing soccer to us getting married….Be right back.

>>294423

>Surprisingly, the coffee was cheaper and better tasting than the shit coffee that you get at Starbucks

No shit sherlock, you can get that at fucking dunkin donuts

Tulpas are bad fucking juju. OP will get rid of his if he knows what's good for him.

>>294451

I'm back and that marriage was void because it was just a dream.

>>294455

First of all, there is no Dunkin Donuts near me. Second of all, I have had their coffee before and it tastes like shit as well. So no, you don't get better coffee at a Dunkin Donuts.

>>294423

>Latin Mass

Anyone else seeing a pattern here?

>>294478

Explain

>>294479

>Snakeanon is going to Latin Mass (A Catholic thing)

>I'm a Catholic Christian

>>294481

Yes, I am a Catholic. Is that what you are pointing out?

>>294481

still not getting it. Is it because dollanon is a Christian?

>>294482

I'm pointing out that we've both had something occult occur, and we're both Catholics. I'm thinking about the implications.

>>294483

I'm dollanon, maybe my ID switched.

>>294485

Ah, my fault. Wasn't paying attention to ids.

>>294484

And so have lots of other anons on here, who aren't catholic. Including Aux.

>>294489

Sorry, I don't browse here often, so I don't keep up to date on these things, very busy life.

>>294490

It's still a big thing though. Don't think I'm discrediting it. /monster/ has some real magic going on.

>>294486

Yeah, I'm the Snek-anon.

>>294490

It isn't Catholicism/Christianity that is doing it. It is much deeper than religious faith. BUT you could be on to something.

So, assuming this isn't all autism, how do you go about getting this sort of stuff going and not looking like a deranged idiot?

>>294494

You don't. Take my advice and forget about ever wanting to make one. It's cool at first but it ends with you regretting it.

>>294494

Don't try to make one. Let it happen "accidentally" and naturally or else it might really backfire on you.

>>294508

The only way it would happen naturally is if one was in my position or they were insane. It would only happen after a lot of mental gymnastics or if one was already crazy in the first place.

>>294434

I actually had a dream about her

I was in an old house with its former resident a (a sweet old lady) talking to me likeva grandma talks to a grandson

She wskedvif i had a gf i told her maybe but its that its a possessed doll she pulled out the Annabelle doll, "oh you mean like her?" I said kind of but not that doll, i spent the next part of the dream looking for the doll that had my waifu, i found Emiles old doll and a few other "famous"possessed dolls but i couldn't find mine in the among the many on the floor and shelves it was pretty disappointing but the Annabelle doll was the first one i saw

>>294232 (OP)

Congrats to OP on getting someone interesting, miss Rose, take good care of em. I was following your progress over in the dream thread before this one landed.

>>294234

why yes, they can switch control, with practice and cooperation, actually I find that to be pretty useful at times. just as an example, Tired as fuck driving home after work and swap to someone else in the lead who is far less exhausted.

Tulpas and other spirit forms don't have to be something feared, long as you retain some level of understanding on what you're dealing with. Some people can maintain far more than just a single contact too, though it can cause a lot of stress on the mind after a while.

I've been dealing with spirits and tulpas for many years now, don't claim to know everything or every situation, but can answer questions if wanted OP,

It's vaguely related to this whole thing. But what about the creation of wonderlands? Better known by the names "Mind palace", "happy place" or "nowhere land" to Normalfags. A wonderland is kind of an imagined area you hold control over and gives you a place to interact with various ideas and can improve memories. Tulpamancers that I've encountered tend to use them to some effect.

So tulpas, meditation, and wonderland stuff is connected, right? What if someone's imagination has deteriorated with time? Any luck there?

Tulpa don't exist and everyone who says they do are LARPers. There I saved a lot of people time and autism.

>>294822

Just practice. Daydreaming is a good way to do that. When I was a kid I would often take ideas I read in some books and if I liked it, adjust the universe or create my own. I would often take dreams too.

>>294834

>no fun allowed

>>294976

Sure, have fun with it, but don't pretend it's anything more than a /mlp/ made LARP game where they wanted to pretend their pony waifus were real and talked to them that happened to catch on with /x/ and other places that lead up to it being here.

>b-but monks!

Yeah, they were ascetics and deprived themselves of food and meditated every single day for hours in isolation. That would drive anyone crazy, and they weren't seeing their pretend girlfriend, they were seeing all kinds of things that they believed were leading them to "enlightenment", not a qt mind girl they could talk to.

you still with us OP?