/mde/ - MILLION DOLLAR EXTREME

>>20577

didn't read this but has anyone thought the reason there's no MDE now and a lot of other alt-type comedians fell off at the same time is since trump won it's hard to say "fuck everything" because you just feel like, instead you should be focusing on how to turn that initiative into momentum and make things really start getting good? like it now feels retrograde to be doing Obama era tricksterism

>>20583

fuck drumpf, what has he gotten done except trigguring teh libturds epic style

>>20583

no. it happened because social media amped up their censoring and deplatforming campaigns by 400 orders of magnitude in the wake of Trump winning.

is this worth reading? whats the summary?

>>20590

according to the amazon synopsis:

North America, 2080. Air toxification and global warming have forced the two hundred million citizens who survived the Civil War into comfortable but oppressive underground cities. A small techno-elite living under town-sized domes rules over them from above.

The Chinese Empire allied with the Silicon Valley leftist authoritarians in the 2040s to defeat the America First opposition, form the Corporate Coalition of North America and replace the constitutional government with an AI-assisted dictatorship.

AI speech sensors across the underground cities detect breaches of the Offense & Criticism Act of 2064, which forbids male speech and actions “intended for unauthorized humorous effect” and ‘harmful' criticism. The Coalition renamed male laughter ‘manic oppression’.

All underground men except a small percentage of specialized Alphas must take Posimasc medication, which severely dulls their masculine instincts. The Toxic Masculinity Act of 2065 prohibits men from behaviour defined as such by the Coalition, such as anger, aggression and lust.

Under-Toronto citizen Caleb Thompson is growing frustrated with the drudgery and absurdity of life underground. Meanwhile, former comedian Alexavier White, now a Corporate Coalition late night talk show host who lives under the Los Angeles dome, is becoming disillusioned with his role as a shill for the elites.

This story of dystopian surveillance, censorship and control echoes many of our present-day worries but leaves behind a glimmer of hope for those who celebrate the free and independent American spirit.

>>20588

no, that doesn't explain why a whole cohort of people's jokes became unfunny. it's because of what I said. This era's is a different energy level that doesn't suit that style and nobody since has thought of a style that does suit it because it's so transitional. Like who the fuck is funny now? Nobody. (except like totally unrelated to real life stuff like people riffing on badly made movies and games coming out and trainwrecking)

>>20595

similar to how I'm not reading that medium post, I'm not even gonna read your full post. And I know that I'm not missing out on shit.

whoever is posting that shit, just stop. Doit under a pseudonym and never shill for yourself. That way you'll learn that nobody gives a fuck about you because you have no actual talent or attractive qualities.

>>20609

actually reflecting a bit more, you >>20588 are right - just too specific. it's not the deplatforming specifically it's just that the tension is now so high, the cultural disconnect now a hot culture war, etc., so that being cheeky just doesn't have the giddy spark that it did.

The new comedy that we all found and were so enthralled by in 2013 etc. was this subversive, not exactly right wing necessarily but outsider, non-pc, non-liberal, cheekiness. We'd all grown up with liberal=nice, funny, racism etc=dumb hicks. But then here was this counter culture subtly opening that bubble by say, doing an African accent character and having jungle drums playing under it. *Knowing* that people would expect a lot of qualifying and apologising for doing such a character in the first place, and not only not doing that but provoking further with the drums and not apologising. So it was like wait, you can be smart and not liberal hmm. That kind of *provocation* was hilarious when all everyone's assumed values were the same except for little eyebrow raises at things and deep feelings that went unsaid.

Being post-ironic and saying something racist while having about 60% of your audience think that you were making fun of racism - pure glee for the people that wer in on the joke.

Now there's no secrets -there's no emperor's clothes of shared cultural values to trickily wink at someone about. It's a war and you have to pick, nazi or a commie and tell your soldiers an earnest rallying speech. There's a lot less of ways to make that genuinely funny and it's certainly a different person who pulls it off. So even the smartest post-ironic winking trickstar is pretty much a stranded, beached fish floundering on ground exposed to the hot light by the rise of mt trump

>>20627

>So it was like wait, you can be smart and not liberal hmm. That kind of *provocation* was hilarious when all everyone's assumed values were the same except for little eyebrow raises at things and deep feelings that went unsaid.

this is why there's so much sam hate. even as i write this there are ChapoTrapHouse and similar people here who are absolutely wrecked mentally by Sam for doing htis to them and they hate him with fire

you're clearly british thoguh so your grasp on subtleties of american culture espeically race relations are limited

>>20627

i wish i had whatever ability allows you to perform analyses like this. it all rings pretty true.

>>20577

my african no1 is gonna read 79m worth of fanfic

If you want /r/mde right now, just go to Twitter. If you click around for an hour in certain circles, you can come up with a feed that reads just how I assume the sub would today if it was still relevant and unbanned, only you get to filter out the parts you don't want (for better or worse; I low-key kinda miss the pee-poo spam posters and other undesirables). Twitter is so big and oddly connected that it's hard to keep someone off the platform. They'll just come back with a mnemonically-reminescent name or a "fan-account". I'd always thought of mass aocial media as gay (and it is) but it turns out the social complexity allows for resillient communities so long as they're not worth tens of thousands of dollars to shut down.

As for the content itself, there's small bubbles of subversion and larger bubbles of earnest discussion, humor and "humor".

>>20722

>subversion

in line with my earlier long post about the changed climate not suiting this - what is there at the moment to subvert? what is being subverted?

>>20724

Many well-meaning voices with influence (and many that were less well-meaning) deemed it necessary to be steadfast on mainstream stances during the recent rise of populism. Power managed to steer this induced steadfastness towards a rise in anachronistic, self-defeating laissez-faire, perhaps drawn from Trump's own and familiar New York liberalism. As such, the establishment has not budged in our favor and anything that needed to be subverted in 2015 or 2016 still needs to be subverted in 2019 or 2020, sometimes doubly so. The angle has to change, though, as we were largely unsuccessful.

This problem was locally addressed and even memed to death on /r/mde during its last year, most notably the "economics before demographics" and "legal mass migration is acceptable" aspects. There was very little external engagement, though; the form was too rough and abrasive to spread and the people were content to keep it to themselves. Many Twitter circles, however, being incredibly resilient, have had time to grow more agreeable. Solid core communities have formed and are trying different approaches and formats to make their own messages spreadable or easier to swallow.

Currently, there's not much real steam, but it seems to be slowly building up. One common and seemingly successful tactic is to juxtapose ideas and their fruits. Shiff's Humans of Flat Design, for example, chronicles the evolution of the current post-postmodern body horror tech-art trend as a result of progressivism, ridiculing its proponents and forcing lots of reactionary doubling-down. It's a tiny but commendable and serviceable step towards the delegitimization of the globohomo complex. You've also got the Yang memers who are pushing him in order to force a public conversation about how UBI is good but can't be provided to people who commit thoughtcrime as it would give them a buffer against leftist deplatforming and forced-firings. Such a conversation could be used to subvert the current zeitgeist of "it's okay to take everything away from someone if they have badthink".

>>20732

you're right. humans of flat design is a good example. and it's great to have palatable messaging (stupid ass rmde was preaching strictly to the choir) but yeah there's little steam. which perhaps is from the hesitancy of 'well, let's see if Trump fixes anything'

>>20577

I clicked this and it actually looks pretty great. I'll read the rest if i can grow some attention back.

If anyone liked MDE/affliated writing they'd like this

>>20722

give a few usernames you fllow to prove you're not fully of shit / actually just one of those rose emoji FAGGOTS who is an 'ex fan' of MDE because you realized the racism wasn't ironic

>>20577

i gotta lot of shit to do today so imma sit down tomorrow with a drink and snack and read it through

>>20577

just finished reading this. i actually quite enjoyed it, though i much prefer the short stories and writings that the author has also done. this one felt a tad on the nose at times in its messages, i would've liked to see it be a little more open to intepretation or vague at times so as to not be hamfistedly pushing a message. but overall i found a lot of potential and good content, and it stirred a lot of emotion in me at times. i'm feeling a strong 7.5/10 on this one.