/k/ - Weapons

>>602364

It could be worse.

I think the Russian have defeated modern stealth given they have cancelled production of their own stealth aircraft.

The way to tell if the US believes they have is simple, when the US military says they need more funding it means they are fine, when they say they can meet all threats in means they are bluffing.

>>602356

>Rocket range 600km radius 40km altitude vs fighter aircraft, or 200km altitude vs ballistic missiles and satellites

Does it grant wishes too?

>>602372

Welcome to the future Strelok

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Burnt_Frost

>>602372

>>602373

Here is a better link

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-satellite_weapon

>>602364

To be fair it's all been downhill for Greece since the Macedonian Wars.

>>602364

Maybe you should pay your fucking bills first before thinking about making some OC wehpunz. If all else fails, just make a licensed copy of an existing shit. Then again, fucking Rhodesia managed to design and produce a pretty good MRAP Vehicle with all the embargoes shoved upon their throat, but that's more of an exception than the rule.

-t. Country that used to be as poor as yours

>>602367

He could be Macedonia

>>602370

Stealth has been defeated because the US military refused to put stealth bombers directly over Syria the way they did with Libya.

>>602367

Yeah but it's full third world after that point.

>>602392

>Maybe you should pay your fucking bills

Preferably by removing kebabs for money.

>200 km altitude against satellites

All CRYSTAL sats should be fine then (unless they don't boost their orbit that often).

>>602470

>removing kebabs for money

But who would pay for that?

>>602472

>But who would pay for that?

Who does always pay for our shenanigans, greatest ally?

>>602472

> CRYSTAL sats

No one is going to give a shit about hitting recon satellites, the priority targets will be GPS and comms which are both much higher.

The current gen of anti-sat missiles are just chest beating with the next couple of generations getting to useful altitudes.

>>602385

>soviets pioneered hybrid airbreathing rocket engines

Name one example. Even a proposal.

The british HOTOL program(now skylon) has been funded on the backburner since 1982. Recently, now that there is a market for space launches, the british government has given them much more money, so they can prove their engine design works. They've already proven the only truly new component in the engine.

And yeah, nasa is giving them as much money as they are allowed to. But congress tells nasa what they do next, including what rocket to design. You can thank obama for SLS, we could have dumped that 20b into buying reaction engines and skylon and be flying to the ISS by now.

>>602494

>You can thank obama for SLS, we could have dumped that 20b into buying reaction engines and skylon and be flying to the ISS by now.

Even once it's operational Skylon's still a SSTO. A conventional rocket is going to be more easily scalable for more distant missions than LEO.

The problem wasn't Obama funding a conventional system, but that he cancelled the existing program and started a new one because he couldn't accept it not being his.

>>602472

>>602483

It's more of a safety net against FOBS and FOBS like systems.

Recon sats are useless anyway since a fucking laser can fry their charge coupled sensors, or a jammer can make their radar tell the sat owner whatever the jammer operator wants him to see.

Same for coms and GPS.

Way cheaper pound for pound to stick a diesel generator an an antenna on a truck than it is to launch a hitech missile beyond LEO.

>>602356

Are the Russians going to make a handful of them in such numbers that they don't pose a strategic threat? Mass production doesn't seem in line with the military budget cuts and the decreased Armata production.

>>602554

More like order <10 from china, shove them in every related media, maybe even of some parades and then let them rust in some warehouse.

Does Assad's men have more experience than most US troops now?

>>602560

Absolutely. How many Fallujah vets do you still have in the forces for example?

>>602373

>>602375

>>602385

Meh, F-15's have had antisat capability since the 1980's. Almost 40 years ago. An antisat platform that is mounted on a truck is as useless as tits on a bull unless your target flies over it.

What's it going to do against targets that have their orbit modified to fly outside its' range? Honk its' horn angrily?

>>602364

>I will never not be assmad that everyone but us gets to make their own weapons and systems. This country has gone to absolute shit. Even the fucking street shitters make missiles and tanks by themselves while all we make are bullets and half a century old licensed G3 rifles

Maybe you should pay your debts and improve your economy instead of buying war weapons?

>>602392

>>602587

The debt is illegal. When the money taken aren't returned to the citizens or used in favor of the citizens but rather exclusively used by the politicians then the debt is not owned by the country, but by the specific individuals who crated it. Greece has every right to straight-up delete the 'debt' but in return will have to put every person responsible in jail or even execute him.

Greece's debt is a private debt. What's more European troika was also responsible for many illegal loans that took place. It was a plan to turn turn the country into free resources. The commie government has sold ports to the chinks, entire mines to foreigners, given huge companies to foreign investors , etc.

>>602372

Yes

>>602586

Fighter jets with their rate of climb are good for anti-ballistic response but IMO strategic interceptors would be the real shit:

>>601869

>>601892

>>602554

It's 600km kill range, 3000km detection range. They need a dozen, if that, to cover all threat areas.

>>602587

>eu gives loan to commie party at 3%

>"wow we're so progressive look at us support socialists!"

>commie party buys votes to get to 30%

>controls country

>wastes all money

>ruins economy

>refuses to pay back loan

You made your bed now lie in it. The fuck did you give money to communist in the first place?

>>602620

>The fuck did you give money to communist in the first place?

goldman sachs

>In 2001, Greece was looking for ways to disguise its mounting financial troubles. The Maastricht Treaty required all eurozone member states to show improvement in their public finances, but Greece was heading in the wrong direction. Then Goldman Sachs came to the rescue, arranging a secret loan of 2.8 billion euros for Greece, disguised as an off-the-books “cross-currency swap”—a complicated transaction in which Greece’s foreign-currency debt was converted into a domestic-currency obligation using a fictitious market exchange rate.

https://archive.is/RgrfV

>>602668

>banker jews give money to jew politicians

>get jewed due to communism

>germans make fun of greeks for it

Pottery.

>>602439

That's a consequence, not a cause.

>>602586

Except that spaceships are like anchored vessels. The anchoring point moves across the sky at orbital velocities but that just means it will be in your sights for a minute or two every 2 hours, not 100% of the time. That's because spaceships only have RCS engines with just enough fuel to make a few minute orbit adjustments. They don't have the engines nor the fuel to, you know, actually change the orbit inclination. Doing a 90 degree orbit turn takes the same amount of fuel as going up the orbit in the first place. So taking down a satellite from a semi-stationary launch site is easy. You just figure out its orbit, move underneath it at your leisure, and wait for it to pass above you. There's nothing it could do to avoid the encounter so you're free to take as long as you need.

>>602364

Or you could have decent home made weapons, and then given up on first sign of serious trouble, because your allies abandoned you and you're not Polish. Result's pretty much the same, only you don't get to brag how much ass you'd have kicked if you haven't given up.