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Is there a 'flecktan' for flecktarn?

Quite like the "Lozenge" and "Ambush" camo patterns.

>>599033

>lozenge camo

camouflage***

I have a cool addition. I was obsessed with camouflage for like a week solid and I read about it and shit.

Now, I see the world as a system and sometimes you can hide in plain sight if you lay still enough.

Anyway, after you read about things you notice other things, like in movies for instance.

In the movie Unbreakable, where bruce willis is basically superman, he senses that a guy in a ticket line has a gun on him.

The guy in the line appears to be wearing a WW2 german jacket worn by the waffen SS.

Another thing to point out is that in a seperate scene, the guy's jacket camo pattern changes, as if they just have multiple, rare, ww2 jacket just laying around on the hollywood set.

>>599104

>that is fucking US chocolate chip desert camo

Not technically, it's an arab (possibly iraqi) copy.

Here's some camo from something cheap I picked up at a surplus store

>>599013

The legend has it that the idea of using camouflage was born in a grim realization that the main feature of classic military uniforms - long distance legibility - can be taken advantage of by the enemy. Regular forces uniforms had bright clothing in order to assist commanders in keeping track of the units. Of course the enemy also had such uniforms, both sides could see what the enemy was doing and it balanced out - battles were won on an even field by strategy, training and numbers. But insurgent forces didn't had proper uniforms, instead they wore cheap basic clothes that were naturally colored and stained in shades of brown, yellow and green. Not only regular forces were at a disadvantage because their commanders couldn't see what the enemy is doing while insurgents could clearly see where the enemy was, individual soldiers of regular forces couldn't see the enemy and had to shoot at random most of the time while insurgents could see enemy soldiers from a very long distance. A battle was lost despite sheer superiority in all aspects including better uniforms. Soon enough a single-color uniform was adopted. Later, ghille suit was invented, but as it is impractical today, it was moreso back then, but it was an improvement over single-color uniform and was used on special occasions. In WW1 some countries experimented with camouflage with mixed success, apparently because they didn't had hard scientific data and had to make educated guesses about it. WW2 camouflage use became a little more widespread but notably no one but germans bothered much with doing it, apparently it didn't improve things by a whole lot. After WW2, multi-color camouflage became standard for all troops and equipment, camouflage patterns and coloring are now computer-generated and evaluated and do for a fact decrease visibility.

As for dazzle, it's not a camouflage. Obviously it greatly increases ship's visibility. The idea was to disrupt spotters' ability to tell how many ships are there, which direction they are moving and what are the distances and speeds. Invention of a split lens rangefinder nullified any and all advantages of using this painting method, and ships reverted to plain gray.

I am not sure of the effectiveness of green as a camouflage color. Nature is the best at camouflage since it has hundreds of millions of years of experience and it rarely uses green camouflage outside of aquatic environments. The only nonaquatic vertebrate I know of that uses green camouflage is the green tree python and that is because it disguises as a fucking vine. There are also lots of green insects but they are usually no larger than a leaf which means solid green camouflage is very effective when used properly. Look at all the cats that live in very green environments. Are mammals fundamentally incapable of producing green fur pigment or is their brown black and orange camouflage more widely effective? Any thoughts?

We should come up with our very own camouflage right here anon.

Why don't armies use hunting camo? Regular camo is near-worthless unless you stay still inside tall grass so the whole "dude it only works in specific terrain" argument is invalid.

With hunting camo you can walk in a forest and if it's windy chances are the enemy won't even notice you. You can hide in plain sight in a position you personally feel comfortable with and the enemy won't see you until it's too late. With regular camo you will either have to go prone in shitty uncomfortable grass and mud or cover yourself with leaves and crap to have even a slight chance of staying hidden.

>>602859

If I had to pick a universal camouflage pattern with my little knowledge on the matter I would pick this flecktarn although I would make the lightest tan darker than it looks here.

>>602861 Ok,

here's one I made.

>>602918

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>>602969

>t. yankee

>>602922

???

Is 'spooky graveyard' an effective camouflage?

Can somebody help me remember the camo I'm thinking of?

-it looked somewhat like pic related in terms of color.

-much more simple and jaged though

-the pattern was like jagged spikes

-its a fairly common hunting camo from what I've seen

>>611431

This one?