a8bd82 No.585407
tfw when you call yourselves kommandos but there isn't any Eurosatory thread :(
Aren't you guys interested in poorly designed 3d presentation from the French army ? Weird looking French optics mounted on HK416F ? Future armored French vehicles ?
ec4b94 No.585413
>pic 4
that M2 really hates mirrors
97ac8d No.585415
>>585407
Come on Frogbro, show us your toys. On a side note can anyone confirm if modular vehicles are the next meme defense ministries will be wasting many on? Britain seems to have gone for it. I'm also amazed we haven't seen a media shitstorm about the paintjob and message on the side of the display vehicle for the new Boxers
2c68ea No.585417
>>585407
Wait, do you frogs replace the FAMAS with the HK416, but still keep it for the FÉLIN?
a8bd82 No.585418
>>585415
I present you the ERBC Jaguar.
Look how mean he looks, sandniggers would run away only from the look of it.
Also all these big cameras looks like fine target, would be bad if someone shoot them 🤔
51d3a1 No.585419
>tfw missed out on being at this Eurostatory due to circumstances.
>tfw missed out on the last one due to a train breakdown
>tfw I will never go to one of the worlds largest arms shows for the express purpose of fingerfucking weapons and posting about them online and in video
does anyone know when the next one will be
97ac8d No.585421
>>585418
What have they got loaded into that pop up launcher?
a8bd82 No.585422
>>585417
Well, FELIN cost us 1 billion € so adapting it to the HK416f was in mind while choosing our new assault rifle.
I don't really know about the future of the FAMAS after 2021 (all HK416f would've been shipped to french military), but I guess we will keep some for basic training and counter torrorism patrol (2 weeks ago I so the Gendarmerie carrying one, not sure which unit it was)
a8bd82 No.585423
>>585419
"does anyone know when the next one will be"
It takes place every 2 years
>>585421
4 MMPs (2 already loaded in the turet)
97ac8d No.585426
>>585423
I thought you guys were using Javelins after the Milan got too old.
3388f2 No.585427
a8bd82 No.585428
>>585426
Well, the MMP were actually developped to replace the MILAN, but since we dropped them in 2009 and the MMPs were scheduled for 2017, we had to buy Javelins in the meantime
ec4b94 No.585429
>>585418
Did they purposefully try to make it an ugly mess?
a8bd82 No.585430
>>585427
"France is the most successful military power in European history—in terms of number of fought and won"
Plus we just bombed Syria with you guys some days ago, you already don't remember ?
b712c6 No.585431
>>585427
How else did we almost conquer the entirety of Europe when Napoleon, God bless his name, was Emperor? With a wave of a marshal's baton?
97ac8d No.585432
>>585431
>conquer the entirety of Europe when Napoleon, God bless his name, was Emperor?
You mean Napoleon the traitor to the republic? Have you forgotten the second half of that war so soon France?
b712c6 No.585433
>>585432
>Anglo here thinks republics are actually a good idea
Do you not know the history of the Republic? Where (((Robespierre))) guillotined half of the French nation for triggering him and his Jacobin sensibilities? Where France was in absolute chaos for a decade before Napoleon, God bless his name, restored the nation to order?
>Have you forgotten the second half of that war so soon France?
No, I haven't. I never said Napoleon won, you clueless Anglokike. We did almost succeed in conquering Europe, n'est-pas?
43b456 No.585434
>>585431
Napoleone di Bonaparte the Italian speaking son of minor Tuscan nobility from ethnicity Italian Corsica that had only recently come under french authority and still has a strong independence movement, who changed his name to sound more french after being builied in artillery school for not being French. Is that the Frenchman you are talking about
97ac8d No.585435
>>585433
>The French Republic resulted in a large pile of dead Frenchmen
How is this not a good thing and fantastic example of forwards motion?
>We did almost succeed in conquering Europe, n'est-pas?
That's a wonderfully polite phrasing of 'we lost', m80. I suppose the French language is better suited to expressing that sentiment though.
b712c6 No.585436
>>585434
He's as French as George III, the German-speaking son of minor German nobility from ethnically German Hanover that had only recently come into personal union with England and is now part of Germany, whose descendants changed their names to sound English after being bullied by the nation for not being actual Englishmen. Is that the Englishman you are talking about
>>585435
>How is this not a good thing and fantastic example of forwards motion?
The Eternal Anglo striketh once more. I will keep laughing as your mothers, wives, sisters and daughters keep getting raped by gangs of dindu-nuffin 'Asians'.
>That's a wonderfully polite phrasing of 'we lost', m80. I suppose the French language is better suited to expressing that sentiment though.
That's funny coming from a man whose nation spent almost the entire Napoleonic War sitting on his ass doing nothing until Waterloo.
3388f2 No.585437
>>585430
>France is the most successful military power in European history—in terms of number of fought and won
I'm sorry, I didn't count wars waged several centuries ago.
>>585431
>Napoleon
>French
b712c6 No.585438
>>585437
Where did I say Napoleon was French?
2c68ea No.585440
>>585427
You ruined the thread with this single post. I hope you are proud of yourself.
97ac8d No.585442
>>585436
>The weeping frog continues to wail
Anyway, did anybody ITT actually go to Eurosatory?
43b456 No.585443
>>585436
I firmly believe that the royal family have no legitimate claim to the throne since the Dutch invasion. I would also like to see the Germans (read as all English) driven off the island
ec4b94 No.585444
>>585443
segway druid is that you?
a6fd5b No.585445
>>585436
Except the English are a Germanic people, whereas France and Italy are culturally and genetically distinct.
>>585443
Get fucked potato kike.
179bd5 No.585452
When will militaries stop looking like generic clones of each other and start making their own distinct rifles, vehicles, camouflage and gear?
I swear every nu-army noways loves wearing retarded digital camo and shitarded fast MT helmets armed with the exact same M4 clones with the exact same optics on them.
2c68ea No.585456
>>585452
When you get to create your own military that is centred around doctrines that differ from NATO's.
97ac8d No.585460
>>585452
NATO gets kind of excited about parts, weapons, vehicles, and ammo commonality. To be entirely fair to them it is incredibly useful for logistics during joint operations; but if the US got their way every NATO nation would be equipped with entirely American (i.e. overpriced, overdesigned and underbuilt) everything.
acd8c1 No.585491
>not going to hall 6 stand B571
acd8c1 No.585494
>>585413
What a thing to notice.
>>585445
>Except the English are a Germanic people
Uwot? English are mostly Roman, pict and belgian.
Hence their dark straight hair and black eyes.
Only Welsh, Scots and Irish have some germanic heritage left over.
And French come from Franks, which were germanic.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franks
df367f No.585503
>>585494
>English are mostly Roman, pict and belgian.
>Hence their dark straight hair and black eyes.
But the BBC taught me that 20% of Britons were based niggers, like that one actor playing the next James Bond.
a6fd5b No.585506
>>585494
>Uwot? English are mostly Roman, pict and belgian
English =/= British.
>Only Welsh, Scots and Irish have some germanic heritage left over.
Okay, we're done here.
4a8b1b No.585509
>>585494
>Only Welsh, Scots and Irish have some germanic heritage left over
733374 No.585510
>>585415
Ah yes.
The Boxer.
That's the ADF's chosen replacement for the ASLAV, because replacing a 13 tonne wheeled RECON vehicle with one that is over twice as heavy at combat load is an amazing idea.
They still haven't picked out the IFV replacement, god help us it's probably going to be an MBT if the boxer is any indication.
dcf15e No.585513
>>585494
>uwot? English are mostly Roman, pict and belgian.
>hence their dark straight hair and black eyes.
>only Welsh, Scots and Irish have some germanic heritage left over.
Remember anons, we can take pride knowing that we will never be this retarded.
587ef6 No.585515
>>585415
That doesn't sound like a bad idea, does anyone here have any more info?
4a8b1b No.585518
>>585510
>not buying 10ft tall, 11ft wide scout vehicles
smh lad
8d732e No.585520
>>585513
He's a magapede what would you expect.
0ef8cc No.585521
>>585515
I'm not much better-versed on the subject, but there are good and bad examples of the modular vehicle meme. Russia's Armata program is one of the better examples, this thing the bongs are trying is apparently one of the worse ones.
733374 No.585522
>>585518
m8.
Yours is at least treaded, ours is wheeled.
4a8b1b No.585523
>>585522
The BTR is good and it's wheeled, always have hope lad! besides who will you be fighting? You are like 10k miles away from most hot zones
733374 No.585526
>>585523
Well the BTR is also not almost 42 ton at combat loads.
And yes I do wonder that myself, but hey the ADF sees fit to have M1A1's.
Maybe that's the point they can't be bothered lifting the tanks overseas so they're just going to make everything that DOES go overseas a !not tank to compensate
4a8b1b No.585528
>>585526
I'm honestly surprised you don't just borrow stuff from the US when you do oversea operations, it would be hell of a lot cheaper than shipping hundreds of multiple ton vehicles thousands of miles.
bbe082 No.585529
>>585407
modern Europe is so fucking gay
b5573b No.585539
>>585417
FELIN was never the guns.
FELIN is the infantry system (FELIN stands for: infantryman equipment with integrated data-links)
FAMAS FELIN (don't really exist) or FAMAS Valorisés (modified F1 from the "as new" stockpile) are part of the FELIN system but were never an essential component.
>>585418
>Also all these big cameras looks like fine target, would be bad if someone shoot them
It's the cavalry new real vehicle (IE the one they will actually use for something and is not allowed to be poorly designed). It got so many backups it's ridiculous.
All optical sights are largely impervious to gun fire (they're periscope/episcope kind of thing, breaking the caches does nothing but slightly impair vision.)
Worse case scenario both commander and driver hatches lock open sideways to allow operation with eyeball mk 1.
Basically even if you break everything the crew still has a "normal" armored vehicle awareness.
Oh and all the sensors act as data fusion through scorpion and automated threat tracking (aligning both turrets either remotely or automatically for threat assessment from HQ or system detection depending how it's set, dispersing smokes in coordinated patterns with other vehicles, etc)…
Basically you need the gunner/commander only to press the fire button and a driver…
Meaning it's quite possible you could still make them work WITH DEAD CREW with a software patch.
It can look ugly. One of those can probably take on a M1A2 squad and just murder-rape them…
>>585421
MDBA MMP, they've (finally) finished testing and are starting to be delivered this year, they're better than javelin on all account (range, payload, guidance, weight).
9a908c No.585564
>>585460
Ah yes, I forgot the sleek beauty of English weaponry that had no scandals behind them for being straight up obsolete when they entered production and kept around far longer than its expiration date. daily reminder that the SAS, SBS and all of the other commonwealth equivalents use M4s and FIM92 stingers
c46627 No.585574
97ac8d No.585579
>>585523
>besides who will you be fighting?
Dude, I know we don't hear much about it up here, but you should know what's happening down under if you're on /k/.
>The Emus never forgot what they see as the unprovoked Australian aggression of '32
>Since then they've been watching, waiting
>Investigation into the financial links between senior Emu businessmen and pro immigration Aussie politicians have lead to several dead journalists and a lot of speculation
>The Emus have massively increased their military spending lately, with most of the gear bought under the table from Russian contractors and rogue CIA black budget teams.
>Over the last few weeks ASIC has confirmed several Emu military exercises that appear to be simulations of an attack on Canberra.
>The Aussies have to be ready.
>>585564
The Saxon is basically just a cheap armoured 4x4, it did its job perfectly well. As for the HMS Antelope that tends to be what happens when a ship gets the shit bombed out of it. The blowpipe has been replaced with the incredibly sexy Starstreak, and if you're going on about special forces gear they choose that for weight first and foremost, as they are unlikely to have a vehicle to ride around in. Americans should really learn to do a bit more reading before they start shitposting.
733374 No.585580
>>585528
Not brown enough fam.
>>585579
Well it makes sense why we've got our "armoured" divvies in the most useless butt fuck places in Aus.
Much like the slavs protecting us from Siberian skin walkers our brave tankers have been the only thing holding back the flood of avian assault walkers.
18ac49 No.585582
>>585564
I really wish the negative space in that third image was on the right, it'd be great for an edit
>this launcher is too heavy
>Williams is telling me what to shoot again. I don't like Williams
>my mask hurts
>I wish I was back at the barracks drinking tea
d49d50 No.585584
>>585431
only thanks to Polish Legions
Poles are the strongest race in the world
97ac8d No.585588
>>585582
That pic is of a Canadian Blowpipe team. Wouldn't they be drinking coffee? If they do drink gods warm beverage then don't get angry with me for not knowing. It's not my fault you kids don't call anymore.
>>585580
Australian DIP units should hold the emus for at least long enough for the rest of the world to mobilise and meet the threat (or just nuke the place). It's a thankless job, but someone's got to do it.
7646f6 No.585590
>>585491
>VB-10
Good shit,probably won't see much production tho
97ac8d No.585592
>>585590
>VB-10
Aren't pretty much all 'future infantry' programs on a semi-permanent hold for the foreseeable future though.
2c68ea No.585594
>>585592
It looks like for a future infantry program you need these:
>a fancy radio that can do everything and more
>a telescope full of sensors and stuff on the rifle
>a computer screen affixed to the helmet
>some kind of a battery to power everything
>a few cables to connect all these items
>a vest or uniform to hold them
I suspect that in 10-20 years someone will make a nearly off-the-shelf system, and in 50 years even durkas will have it.
97ac8d No.585596
>>585594
Each of the various projects I'm more familiar with (FIST, FELIN, FFW etc) has most of that, a few add a couple of extra bits as well. If you wanted to issue them as specialist gear today you'd probably need much lighter and more efficient electronics and massively improved batteries. As standard kit they'd need to drop in price fairly heavily as well. 20 years seems a little optimistic in the age of spending cuts and budget slashes.
2c68ea No.585601
>>585596
>As standard kit they'd need to drop in price fairly heavily as well
With the current prices would make more sense if they were only issued from fireteam leaders up to platoon leaders. After all, it's their job to coordinate the infantry, and you don't actually need to give every grunt a night vision device and a laser rangefinder.
>20 years seems a little optimistic in the age of spending cuts and budget slashes.
The 10-20 years estimate is the time I expect for a "tacticool nerd" to throw together his own barely working system from chink electronics. Which still wouldn't be cheap, but it would mean that you don' t have to reinvent the wheel if you want to make your own set.
fa35a3 No.585607
I am more interested in this:
LEOCLERC
https://augengeradeaus.net/2018/06/deutsch-franzoesischer-kampfpanzer-demonstrator-hier-kommt-der-leoclerc/
Have you ever thought abut what would happen if you combine kraut space magic and French militarism?
Have you ever wondered what would happen if you combined a Leclerc turret with a Leopard 2 chassis?
Well, here it is. A Leopard 2 with a leclerc turret. Mainly a test to see if the tech of KMW and Nexter actually work together, and apparently it does.
There currently isn't a lot of info available though.
b5573b No.585610
>>585607
Yeah I saw but it's not a future tank despite what they say.
It's a Leo 2A6 chassis with a Leclerc turret on top.
The idea is to have an auto-loading tank with proper modular armor design (at least on the turret) on the cheap for export, the Leo 2a6 chassis and drive train being way cheaper to build an maintain than a Leclerc (for a very good reason… the Leclerc insanely complicated automated drive train that mix a gas turbine APU that act as a turbo with a main diesel engine. After a very painful and expensive R&D it actually works, giving it the same instant reactivity as a M1 or a T-80, 0 to 32km/h in 5s it's about what a good commercial sports car give you, but the fuel consumption of a normal tank because it switch to a regular engine once speed is constant. That's the main reason why they're so expensive).
It's not a mix of both technology to make a better future tank, however that's something that could easily take the place of the T-90S as high tech export tank, while making it a much nicer upgrade for Leo fleets than 2a6 2a7 and cie as it keeps the weight down.
It's a good compromise "on shelf" upgrade. However neither Germany nor France will buy it as their future tank.
7646f6 No.585611
>>585592
>Aren't pretty much all 'future infantry' programs on a semi-permanent hold for the foreseeable future though.
Doubly so if you have a shitty economy like we do.
Right now Russians and French are leaps and bounds ahead when it comes to Future Soldier programs,Germans are up there somewhere and I have no idea where Burgers are with that.Probably busy dicking around with third arm and the like.
179bd5 No.585615
>>585607
True engineering everyone, we sure as pushing military technology forwards the future right here.
A german tank with a french turret. Something that only a child would think of.
97ac8d No.585617
>>585611
>Right now Russians and French are leaps and bounds ahead when it comes to Future Soldier programs
The Russians already have their Ratnik gear in service with selected units, and are rolling it out pretty heavily across the rest of their forces. The only part that won't get issued immediately is swapping out the AK74 for the AK12, they'll have to wait for 2020 to get those out in sufficient numbers.
>I have no idea where Burgers are with that
I think they're still using it as a way to channel taxpayers cash to defence contractors. Mind you, I shouldn't point too many fingers there. Ours was all but cancelled in the last Defence Spending Review.
7646f6 No.585618
>>585617
>The Russians already have their Ratnik gear in service with selected units, and are rolling it out pretty heavily across the rest of their forces.
A 100,000 pieces of Ratnik kits are being made and supplemented by AK-12,Can't wait to see leaked videos of those fuckers removing kebab in Syria
Also,that new Russian assault engineer armor looks sexy af
54f8ce No.585621
>>585610
Well a large problem with the Leo is that most of it's internal electronics are rather old. Some of the radios in the turret are so old that they won't function properly with newer NATO radios.
I imagine that this problem is only worse for all the nations that use export version of the Leo, since they have even less access to modernized versions of anything.
Replacing the turret is a very smart move of KANT.
I am kinda looking forward to see what the EMBT is going to be like. We will see if they manage to come up with something new, or if they will follow the trend that has been set with the T55 of western tanks playing catchup with the Russians.
97ac8d No.585622
>>585618
>100,000 pieces of Ratnik kits are being made and supplemented by AK-12,Can't wait to see leaked videos of those fuckers removing kebab in Syria
God bless those crazy Russian bastards. Then again if they're working properly you probably wouldn't see anything other than muzzleflash.
>New Russian Combat Engineer Armour
How long before Russia just starts issuing these guys powered exosuits?
43b456 No.585626
>>585622
I am starting to believe that Russia's new idealogical goal in the face of communism's fall is making stalker real
4d705a No.585627
>>585626
Boy I hope so, really digging the aesthetics.
7646f6 No.585629
>>585622
>How long before Russia just starts issuing these guys powered exosuits?
Well,their CE are already interlinked with combat and demolition bots such as Platform-M and Uran-6.
Exosuits as of right now are just too expensive and unreliable,not to mention power supply problems.Give em' some time to mature and you'll be seeing soldiers larping as streloks in 20 years top.
b5573b No.585631
>>585617
>The only part that won't get issued immediately is swapping out the AK74 for the AK12
Russian procurement works largely in mysterious ways. So far the only thing they seem to be procuring a lot are AK-74MR kits and GP-34 GL. Probably they will get some RPK-16 and possibly SVCh.
The only "balanced action" guns really in service are not AKs, they're A-545/A-762 that you do see from time to time in special forces units (along with older AEK).
Problem is that Russia as enough 74s to wage WW III and the opening year of WW IV.
Officially they're buying EVERYTHING (AK-12/AK-15, A-545, A-762, RPK-16) but the number they buy are probably just low enough to keep one assembly chain running while they really decide.
b5573b No.585632
>>585622
>>585629
>How long before Russia just starts issuing these guys powered exosuits?
>20 years top.
The russians have split in two their exosuit program (legs/torso), they have deployed some sample of passive legs exoskeletons for sappers in Syria to test them in theater, rumor is the evaluation was very positive.
The idea being the passive leg exoskeleton helps you carry the gear and is roughly for everyone with a heavy equipment load (transmission gear, probably RPG/MG gunners, etc…), including those with active upper torso if someone ever solve the autonomy issue (which is a worldwide R&D issue, today battery technology is simply lagging completely far behind what is possible in miniature tech, and nearly everyone is working on it from the US DARPA to Google, Mitsubishi, Siemens, every university worth it's salt, etc… First guy that solves it gets very, very rich).
As such it might not too long until they issue a lot of passive ones.
97ac8d No.585634
>>585632
>Russia building first gen exoskeletons for general issue
But have they made sure that the leg section still functions when the user is sporting a massive combat boner?
7646f6 No.585636
>>585632
>The russians have split in two their exosuit program (legs/torso).
Makes more sense than the whole LS3 mule program.First you teach your kid to walk,then you teach it to build autonomus cargo hauling bot.
>>585634
>exosuit powered squatting
<pic related
0ef8cc No.585638
>>585631
>Problem is that Russia as enough 74s to wage WW III and the opening year of WW IV.
If this were a just world, there wouldn't be any sanctions, there wouldn't be any full-auto ban, and those would be going on the market for practically nothing right about now.
016fc1 No.585639
>>585638
Was the same with 7n6 until the BATFE started claiming they were AP, since it wasnt M855 most gun owners didn't even try to stop it.
0ef8cc No.585642
>>585639
Don't fucking remind me.
b5573b No.585643
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>>585634
>general issue
First they would have to issue them to sappers.
Russia is rebuilding it's "assault sappers units", looks like after Grozny 2 someone finally opened the red army archives on urban warfare.
It's heavily armored (those heavy blast proof suits), heavily armed (RPO for everyone… with extra ammo), explosive specialists riding in heavily armored vehicles (The elusive BMO-T, probably T-15 in the future)
97ac8d No.585644
>>585643
>after Grozny 2 someone finally opened the red army archives on urban warfare.
>It's heavily armored (those heavy blast proof suits), heavily armed (RPO for everyone… with extra ammo), explosive specialists riding in heavily armored vehicles (The elusive BMO-T, probably T-15 in the future)
So that's Russia winning basically every city fight until someone actually drops a nuke (or equivalent weight of conventional explosives) on their assault engineers then.
638271 No.585646
>>585644
or you could just take out the tracks and make it worthless
cb2beb No.585650
>>585634
>>585632
>MY LEGS ARE OK!
>>585646
Or you could just shoot the troopers before they become troopers and end up winning the war before a war is declared.
No, that taking out tracks stuff generally doesn't work unless you have anti-tank mines. Or atleast I haven't seen it work once in Syria.
638271 No.585653
>finn says kill the children
tbh not a bad idea, do 300 beslans on a country and their capability will be weakened both militarily and economically in the long run
acd8c1 No.585655
>>585513
>>585509
>>585506
Black haired black eyed people with a latin based language all with heritage south of hadrians wall, claiming to be german.
Black haired black eyed people with a latin based language claiming that, ginger and blonde haired people with blue and green eyes and a germanic based languages, aren't germanic.
This is why I can't respect the English, despite all they've done. They simply can't tell the truth, even to themselves.
>>585526
BTR is also amphibious. If you had enough BTRs and guts you could invade New Zealand and finally make it an Australian territory.
>>585590
Does anyone remember that retarded Israeli invention of a gun that breaks in half, then you point the broken half around a corner and use a giant screen camera to see what its pointing at?
I think this is a much better solution.
http://www.yugoimport.com/en/proizvodi/vb-10-soldier-future
4a8b1b No.585657
>>585655
>Black haired black eyed people with a latin based language all with heritage south of hadrians wall, claiming to be german.
>Black haired black eyed people with a latin based language claiming that, ginger and blonde haired people with blue and green eyes and a germanic based languages, aren't germanic.
acd8c1 No.585661
>>585657
>oh shit i think this guy is right, his argument is airtight
>better post a retarded reaction image, that way i can distance myself without losing face
If it wasn't for jason statham, post-1990 england wouldn't have to exist. No one would notice it was gone, except in a positive sense.
4a8b1b No.585663
>>585661
OH MY GOD IT'S YOU
WHAT A FUCKING TWIST HOLY SHIT
1a5dd6 No.585664
>>585655
>Does anyone remember that retarded Israeli invention of a gun that breaks in half, then you point the broken half around a corner and use a giant screen camera to see what its pointing at?
The Corner Shot itself wasn't a gun, it was a holder for a gun. The front part held a pistol and camera, the back part held a remote trigger, screen, and stock. When the pistol is inserted the whole thing becomes what amounts to a short barreled pistol caliber rifle that folds.
529c1f No.585665
>>585655
>english is a latin language
Holy shit, it's just too good.
8d732e No.585667
>>585655
>>English is a romance language now
Well, this is certainly something. I don't know what exactly it is, but it certainly is something.
3011c5 No.585671
>>585661
have you seen Transporter 2 lad?
9a908c No.585674
>>585579
>saxon does its job perfectly well
You know that a fucking DPV dune buggy has a more powerful engine than a saxon right? Anyone have that vid of one failing to drive over the smallest incline at what looked to be a test track while a BDRM2 ran circles around it to the benny hill theme?
>defending the type 21
>built in 1974
>subsonic surface to air missiles
>no CIWS
>no anti ship capability aside from the four and a half inch gun
>until it became a scandal on how pathetic it was for the price and crew compliment that you had to buy french missiles to tape to the front
>hull made out of both steel and aluminum cracked in bad weather
>air defense so inadequate that argies were able to sink two with dumb bombs by simply keeping out of the arc of its only gun and ignoring its 1950s tier surface to air missile system entirely
>STILL IN SERVICE TO THIS DAY
Fucking Christ I didn't even know you still sailed those overstuffed barges
>US has had Redeye inferred homing manpads since 1967
>USSR has had the Strela-2 inferred homing manpads since 1968
>1975, a whole seven years after the simple to use fire and forget systems come out, England makes a fucking MCLOS manpads
>US has had SACLOS missiles in the form of TOW for 5 years now
>USSR has had SACLOS missiles for just as long with the upgraded Fleyta
>MCLOS was already found to be impossible to use on tanks in a combat situation, so why not use it on fast moving aircraft?
>surprise surprise, its fucking worthless even on a clear day
>keep the system in service until 1985 anyway.
>stinger came out four years before it was finally sold to the sand durkas who preferred even a captured RPG over it
7bed2c No.585677
>>585674
>blowpipe
>check wikipedia article on it
>we use it
25b6b4 No.585680
>>585665
>>585667
At least English is sort of influenced by Latin.
You both missed the part where he described Gaelic as Germanic.
2598c2 No.585696
>>585680
>sort of influenced by Latin.
>sort of
>nearly 3/4 of its vocabulary is Latin instead of Anglic
Unironically still not a Romance language though.
97ac8d No.585705
>>585674
The Saxons job was very simple. Drive British squaddies from the barracks to the front in West Germany once news came in that the Russians were on the move. They'd be in a Warrior or Spartan for anything more serious than that. As for the type 21 I wasn't praising or defending it. Redo basic English comprehension. While you're doing that realise that you missed the point at the end of the section on the Blowpipe. In short, sir, get fucked.
23ec44 No.585708
>>585510
Strelok, why would the UK need small recon vehicles when all they do is helping the USA to fight Sandniggers for the (((chosen people)))?
What they need is a "big safety box" to house in their new colored and diverse soldiers, so they don't get hurt by the occasional lucky shot when deployed.
Also when they send a small tank to a conflict zone and label it as a "recon vehicle", they don't need to send actual MBTs and can claim that it is a low level conflict.
The Normie Brits will be too stupid to notice the difference from the pictures and footage of the war zone.
23ec44 No.585709
>>585592
Germany has "finished" its future soldier program Gladius since 2013 and with a snails pace its getting delivered to the Panzergrenadiers that will be riding on the Puma.
ac9421 No.585714
>>585427
la creatura…
>>585709
>we are in a time where uniforms dont looks /fa/ anymore
the future was a mistake
97ac8d No.585715
>>585709
Does that monocle show the rifles sights? Or is it just there to look cool?
733374 No.585717
>>585708
Krautchan I understand there's a union jack in my flag, but uh, we are quite a bit South and East from the mother country :^)
b5573b No.585735
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>>585646
>>585650
>or you could just take out the tracks and make it worthless
>No, that taking out tracks stuff generally doesn't work unless you have anti-tank mines. Or atleast I haven't seen it work once in Syria.
Yup.
The idea that it's easy to de-track a tracked vehicle is a fucking meme, that came from the propensity to use gigantic AT minefields in WWII coupled with literal lines of AT guns that could only try to damage them as they couldn't do anything else and tracks bands that were way looser/flimsier than they are now.
In combat it's near impossible to use a RPG to fire at a track, either you're in front of the vehicle (and the crew should see you) or you're to the back of it, and then you should be targeting the engine or the bustle. All of which you have to be perfectly at the same level of the vehicle.
>Mines, IED
BMO-T comes with a variety of mine clearing vehicles (so does the infantry units).
9a908c No.585836
>>585705
>Russia invades west Germany through fulda gap
>entire British army is trapped in their barracks because their APCs cant power over the fucking speed bumps at the gate
You are misunderstanding that despite taking action in a fleet, both the Antelope and Ardent were jumped by a small squad of subsonic ground attack planes with dumb bombs and sank, shooting down none of the attacking A4s. I'm pretty sure a squadron of Fairy Swordfish torpedo bombers would no joke, stand a good chance at sinking a Type 21.
>be at the height of the cold war
>adopt manpads that would be unable to keep the Hun's DR1 tri-planes east of the Rhine
>keep it for an entire decade
<I-It's okay because we made something better after the threat of WW3 was pretty much over
You are the one that should be getting fucked right about now.
9a2598 No.585838
>>585643
>BMO-T
Isn't there one of those with a AGS-17 and a 30mm mounted on it?
8ccd22 No.585840
>>585838
That's the BTR-T. AFAIK BTR-T were never made in big numbers (but did serve as the proof of concept for the T-15), while BMO-T was adopted.
BTR-T were on a T-55 chassis while BMO-T are on a T-72's which is probably the reason.
25b6b4 No.585841
>>585836
The Blowpipe and the Type 21's Sea Cat were both supposed to have been phased out by '82, but due to political bullshit they didn't get the money to fully replace either system until shortly after they got humiliated by a third-world air force.
630899 No.585948
>>585715
The monocle is a helmet display that is basically a more rugged version of google glasses and it shows the soldier a live stream of what the other members of his squad see, including a little map that shows their position and the direction they walk in.
This data gets also send to the platoon leader who has a tablet to coordinate the position of his people.
The rifle sights are bound to the fancy red glasses and they have all the possible gimmicks you can put on a rifle: image amplifier, thermal image, night vision etc.
97ac8d No.585957
>>585948
Nice work Germany, are they for sale?
d07587 No.585958
>>585948
It sound nice, but I just can't ignore how they look like a bunch of GDI cosplayers from the era of the first Tiberium War.
587ef6 No.585959
>>585948
Having a real minimap sounds cool, but the monocle itself looks flimsy
630899 No.585961
>>585957
You have to ask Rheinmetall Defence Electronics, but the price for the equipment of one person is currently 151.000€ and the system is build to work on the platoon level.
>>585958
We are going to have to act if we want to live in a different world.
>>585959
Not more flimsy than other helmet mounted optics.
97ac8d No.585963
>>585961
What sort of battery life are they working with?
630899 No.585970
>>585963
The different parts have all different battery lives, but if used the right way the system on the soldier should be good for two days before he needs to replace his battery pack.
However the whole system is bound to the IFV Puma and commanding vehicle, which are carrying all the normal equipment the soldier need. So it would be strange for them to be two days away from their unit.
acd8c1 No.586006
>>585663
>>585671
I have seen every Jason Statham movie.
>>585665
>>585667
English only has a Germanic grammar and some words. All the rest of this stuff is coming from Romans.
9a2598 No.586035
>>585840
That makes sense. All I know is slavs tend to add as much fucking dakka as possible and for some reason it still boggles my mind.
a83609 No.586093
>>586006
That's bullshit, English is a germanic language, it's very different compared to French, Spanish, Italian, which are Romance/Roman/Latin languages.
97ac8d No.586096
>>586093
I'm pretty sure they're just trolling at this point. (Modern) English does have a larger French component than German or Dutch (due to the Normans) but it's a Germanic language descended from the Anglo-Frisian dialects.
8de245 No.586108
>>586006
>english only has a Germanic grammar and some words. All the rest of this stuff is coming from Romans.
acd8c1 No.586123
>>586093
Then why is it when I learned English I could literally read French or Italian and understand 70% of it easily?
a83609 No.586126
>>586123
Nigger, are you serious?
Either you are a fucking genius or you are lying.
acd8c1 No.586128
>>586126
The hell are you talking about? If over half of the words are the same or similar, it doesn't matter what the grammar is based on, you can still understand what someone is talking about.
If I said eres un estúpido anyone who knows english knows what the fuck they just got called.
cb2beb No.586133
>>585709
>>585948
>>585961
What's even the point of this system? I can see how being able to see in different light conditions is useful, and how being able to talk with your friends is useful, but the fuck do you need cameras for?
For police work, sure, but for actual war-stuff? No. Why waste 150k€ for every grunt? That stuff is going to weigh a ton, and with any bit of luck you're going to lose 150k€ worth of assets because of a 10€ costing 105 shell.
>>585655
You can do that shoot-around-a-corner with a 145€ mirror.
https://hooktube.com/Zb7TTZU-iog
8de245 No.586134
>>586123
How come I, and the vast majority of the UK/US/Canadian/Australian/Kiwi population, can't understand 70% of French and Italian easily then?
a83609 No.586136
>>586128
Nigger, as I said, you don't understand shit, you just pretend you understand shit.
The same word doesn't have the same meaning over different languages.
8ccd22 No.586138
>>586123
Because 70% of English vocabulary is french and French/Italian/Spanish have the same roots.
>>586134
Because le 56% meme and underachievers. Anglo population only learn their language through their social-cultural immersion (and not through school. English is not a written language anyone can speak it, it's it's force but it's a terrible weakness), as a result they don't have a clue what a language is and the obvious structural crosspaths between European languages doesn't jump at them as it would to anyone that has mastered his own language and English.
Anyone can master English, native English-speakers can't master anything else.
a83609 No.586140
>>586138
>Because 70% of English vocabulary is french
Prove it, dawg.
a83609 No.586141
>>586140
And I know a shitton of people who know French but not English, particularly old people.
If French really is a Roman language, this shouldn't be the case.
650e4b No.586148
>>586140
Kikepedia says l'Anglais is around 45% French, or 50,000 words, but take that with a grain of salt, Nguyen.
acd8c1 No.586163
>>586136
>estúpido
>stúpid
Hint.
>>586138
>How come I
The hell should I know? Maybe an outsiders perspective on english is needed. You guys don't even hear it when you append the letter "r" to the end of every other word.
>>586138
>Anglo population only learn their language
Most native English speakers have not fully learned their own language. Just imagine all the extra capacity in their brains that comes from knowing only 0.5 of a language, compared to people who know 3-4 languages.
>>586148
>l'Anglais is around 45% French, or 50,000 words
I think about 30-40% of English is based on Old English, Germanic, Welsh, Scottish and so on.
45% French sounds about right. There's maybe 10% spanish origin, 5% latin origin, and a shitton of "other" category.
8ccd22 No.586170
>>586141
>And [et] I know [connait] a shit [chier] ton [ton] of people [peuple] who know [connait] French but not English, particularly [particulier] old people [peuple].
Basically all the words that have more than one syllabi are either french or frank.
English people are a myth.
French speaking noble of a vague nordic descent (by William II great grandfather House Normandy had about 1/16 of nordic blood and had got rid of all Nordic customs within the first generation, they were all proper french nobles, and most of them always were… the lands given to Rollo warband NOT being the "duchy of Normandy". His heirs considerably extended what was basically Rouen county through marriage, his handful of vikings wedding local daughters and getting land as wedding price, as per Frankish custom. Of course after taking Frankish names and converting to Catholicism) conquered the south of Britain that was previously held by Angles and Saxons and largely massacred everyone (especially the angles and saxons leadership) and resettled there (with the angles and saxon becoming rapefugee all around the world. Byzantium actually took in most of them!).
And they've been pretending they're not french ever since (well not since then, since they lost the Hundred Years' War, as before the end of it kings of England were peer of France and any conflict were always of succession as french and English kings were always at least 2nd cousins).
And then they started saying that "Norman" was a different language all-together and other stupidity (French has two branch Oïl and Oc, one is more Germanic rooted, the other more Latin rooted. Norman is an Oïl patois, anyone that can read modern french can read old as fuck text in "Norman" and understand it but nope 100% pure nordic).
That's why French and """English""" dislike each other so much, only a frenchmen can hate his own kin that much.
97ac8d No.586173
>>586170
France, don't think you can distract us from your current campaign of ethnic cleansing in Brittany and other parts of Occupied-Trans-Channel-England.
39a855 No.586189
>>586173
Don't talk about us ethnic cleansing anybody when you've done it, and far worse things, to the Irish.
>inb4 muh potatoniggers xDD
>>586180
Looks like the American military now.
8de245 No.586195
>>586189
>potato blight affects whole of Europe, including the rest of the UK
>famine everywhere
>"BEGORRAH DA EBUL BRITS TARGETED US SPECIFICALLY WITH THEIR BIOWEAPONS! NOTHING TO DO WITH OUR MEDIEVAL-TIER FARMING TECHNIQUES!"
39a855 No.586196
>>586195
>force out native Irishmen from their farms
>buy up the rest of Ireland's arable land
>sign the Corn Laws tarriffs, making food imports extremely expensive
>British (((merchants))) keep exporting food from Ireland even while the people are starving
I can hear your angry British blubbering over these radio waves and fiber optic cables: "How DARE he insinuate that I am responsible for my own crimes and atrocities against humanity?" Well, let me tell you rosbif, limey scum of the Earth, you are indeed responsible for your own crimes, and you will, as is the will of God Almighty, pay for them, whether here on Earth, or in Hell.
Picrel is literally you.
59c7a7 No.586197
>>586196
I certainly hope you mean One True Holy Catholic and Apostolic God
54f8ce No.586198
>thread about French arms industry show
>derails into shitposting about English nobility, Roman languages, and the potato famine
For fucks sake /k/. This isn't /int/. Stop this "Whiter than though" bullshit. Guns don't give a shit about skin colour or heritage.
0c4a21 No.586201
>>586189
Can't be an insult if it's true.
To be fair however, most nigs and spics aren't combat arms and instead take DMV-tier POG jobs. There are even less in SF, especially niggers because lol can't swim
4a8b1b No.586202
>>586196
You forgot the part where the English offered aid and the Irish rejected it, oh and the part where people were discriminated against (sometimes killed) if they took any English aid that was smuggled in.
The Irish are a funny lot.
8de245 No.586206
>>586196
>buy up the rest of Ireland's arable land
it's called tenant farming, the rest of the UK managed fine with the exact same system during the potato blight outbreak.
>Corn Laws
Again, affected the rest of the UK in the exact same way, yet the famines were relatively mild in everywhere except Ireland.
>exporting food from Ireland
Huh, almost as if people who didn't use medieval-era farming techniques such as focusing on a single crop and not making use of crop rotations/legumes for renitrification were able to grow so much food that they had an abundance and were able to export it.
>crimes and atrocities against humanity
I thought we were talking about the Irish?
638271 No.586208
>>586202
>Anglos start again
acd8c1 No.586230
>>586202
Yes but you caused the famine in the first place, why would they submit themselves to food aid afterward?
Only the English would poison a person, then turn around and graciously offer a Free™ treatment, so the sick person would be indebted to the Englishman forever.
Actually this is worse. You're stealing a mans dinner and offering to donate it back to him, as long as he stayed your buddy forever, all the way patting yourself on the back for your huge hearted charity.
The Irish made the right choice, I'd choose to die as well. Better I die free today, than to die a slave in forty years time.
39a855 No.586242
>>586230
This 200%. Though change your flag, we Frenchmen are the only ones who ought to wave white here.
4a8b1b No.586271
>>586230
>the English created Phytophthora infestans
269223 No.586277
>>586242
>we Frenchmen are the only ones who ought to wave white here
But the Germans haven't arrived yet?
8de245 No.586278
>>586230
>britain invented potato blight
>you will never be this delusional
7bed2c No.586282
So how about that Eurosatory? Anything more on IdZ or other future soldier programs? Apparently we're developing one, although I can't find anything else other than it's called Águila (Eagle).
>>586230
>Yes but you caused the famine in the first place
pic related
8d9ed5 No.586304
>>585526
TBQH, the M1A1 is reasonably easy to deploy by sea, and can be beach-landed from an LST or similar. They're actually far more mobile in scrub than an ASLAV.
I'd laugh to ever see them try and beach-land an ASLAV though.
They never deploy tanks because they're horrified at the thought of "bad PR" whatever they think that's supposed to be that day.
97ac8d No.586305
>>586196
>How DARE he insinuate that I am responsible for my own crimes and atrocities against humanity?
<Irish
<Humanity
<One of these things is not like the other
Granted, you Franks aren't much better, but I'd expect you to understand the difference at least partially.
>>586277
He seems to be a Monarchist, and the flag of the France, prior to the revolution, was a white field with gold fleur-de-lys. The flags their army marched under often skipped the gold flowers entirely or had them rub off over time, creating a plain white flag. I've no evidence that this was in any way linked to the international acceptance of the use of a white flag to signal surrender, but would it really surprise you?
269223 No.586306
>>586305
><One of these things is not like the other
How human would you say the modern Irish are? After eight hundred odd years of getting that Saxon sexin' they must have improved somewhat.
>was a white field with gold fleur-de-lys
I figured that was what he meant but I couldn't help but make the joke.
Is this particular frog a fairly recent arrival or has he only recently ramped up the autism?
269223 No.586308
Over here we are only six hours away from the anniversary of the Jew lover Napoleon getting fucked by the Coalition.
Remember that 'eternal Anglo' spam is a French attempt to divide the Germans and English as they are still anally pained over Waterloo.
Behind every Jew is a FROG!
0284f0 No.586309
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>>586133
>What's even the point of this system? I can see how being able to see in different light conditions is useful, and how being able to talk with your friends is useful, but the fuck do you need cameras for?
The system not only tracks your team, but also the position and direction of the enemies your whole platoon has found. Its basically a fire control system for Infantry and gives them aim assist.
Additionally the system is not just the combat gear, but also the clothes and vest the soldier wears. The new vest is lighter and has more ventilation, while the new clothes are some of the best stuff you can buy to dress your soldiers.
97ac8d No.586312
>>586306
>After eight hundred odd years of getting that Saxon sexin' they must have improved somewhat
In Norn Iron, somewhat would be the correct phrase. The last exploratory team sent into Eire hasn't reported back yet though, so we're still not sure about what's happening south of the border.
>Is this particular frog a fairly recent arrival or has he only recently ramped up the autism?
God knows how long he's been here, but the Froggish Monarchocuck autism seems to be a new development.
acd8c1 No.586315
>>586271
>>586278
>muh potato blight
Are you retarded? That point was addressed 50 posts ago, the potato blight wasn't the main cause of the famine. Potato blight was a worldwide phenomenon, it happened even in America, and didn't kill 1/4 of the people here. Because we had other crops you mongoloid, pig disgusting, half nigger..
Forcing Irishmen off the farms, imposing ruinous taxes on every OTHER foodstuff, and stealing their healthy potato harvests after the blight started, was what caused the fucking famine.
269223 No.586317
>>586315
>you mongoloid, pig disgusting, half nigger..
What the fuck is your native language?
a83609 No.586321
>>586163
Hey, faggot, doesn't change what I say, you just pretend you understand shit because you assume similar looking words are the same.
a83609 No.586322
>>586170
>and = et
>know = connaitre
>shit = chier
You fucking faggot.
Shit is a germanic word, same for and/und.
93a625 No.586323
>>586322
"know" didn't always have a silent "k".
Back in the 1600's or so, it would have been pronounced something like "kennow" or "khnouw", which is a LOT closer to "connaitre".
Don't know about the other two.
a83609 No.586327
>>586323
Nah, that isn't close, it lacks the a sound.
Know is one sound, connaitre is two sound.
a83609 No.586328
>>586323
Also shit is a germanic word.
The french equivalence is merde, which is latin and has equivalence in Spanish and Italian.
8ccd22 No.586329
>>586322
That's what english propaganda tells you today. Shit comes from "skatos" in ancient greek.
þreax which gave "trash" (and dreck in german) or dung (which is still dung, in both german and english) are the words for shit in english.
Skatos = schatos (K is almost never used in roman languages), problem is "ch" in Oc french is K but "ch" in Oîl french is "sch" and that's how in BOTH german, english and french something that was always with hard K became a soft "sch", through old french (while peoples further away from France kept the almost straight greek with skyt/skit for nordics).
Again, any educated anglo and saxons were all killed by the french, you have a few remnants of their languages from the peasants descendent of those time that somewhat survived the culling but it's not in words that you will find in a typical conversation, because no english lord ever spoke english after William II conquest (and still doesn't. The official court language of the monarchy is still french). The "English" they started to speak a few centuries latter has very little to do with English -> language of the Angles, it's almost entirely a fork from old french, specifically Oïl french which was closer from germanic than modern french.
a83609 No.586331
>>586329
This sounds like an attempt of frenchfag to stay relevant.
>The word is likely derived from Old English, having the nouns scite (dung, attested only in place names) and scitte (diarrhoea) and the verb scītan (to defecate, attested only in bescītan, to cover with excrement); eventually it morphed into Middle English schītte (excrement), schyt (diarrhoea) and shiten (to defecate), and it is virtually certain that it was used in some form by preliterate Germanic tribes at the time of the Roman Empire.
And skatos sounds nothing like shit, try again.
Also, the normans themselves speak french and were a minority in England, and they did not kill the anglo-saxons, and no, you do not need to be "educated" to have a speaking language.
93a625 No.586333
>>586327
>that isn't close, it lacks the a sound
>What is a vowel change/sound change?
>Have any occourred in English in the last 1000 years?
Okay.
93a625 No.586334
a83609 No.586335
>>586333
>>586334
Nah, you are really trying to force shit here.
Skatos becomes scat, but it is not shit, that's another word altogether.
269223 No.586336
>>586329
Kek, you're just upset that the 'language of diplomacy' is irrelevant and only spoken by frogs, niggers and dunecoons.
93a625 No.586339
>>586335
To think I expected you to understand that the sounds that form words change over time…
acd8c1 No.586340
>>586317
Quenderin
>>586321
>because you assume similar looking words are the same
You are retarded. There is no excuse for this stupidity.
>>586331
>derived from old english
And that's derived from even older english, right?
It's english all the way down.
93a625 No.586343
>>586340
>It's english all the way down.
Hehe, I imagine Indo-European would cause our little mister Ho some butthurt.
a83609 No.586344
>>586340
That is the point.
Derived from OLD ENGLISH i.e. Germanic/Saxon language, not your francophone shit.
a83609 No.586345
>>586339
You are assuming different words to be have the same origin because they share the word "h" and "t".
93a625 No.586348
>>586345
>>586344
Every language you're ignoring the roots of comes from Indo-European.
…and you're deliberately ignoring sound changes in the past millennium or so to boot.
I expect it's deliberate- either an attempt to troll, or caused by poor brain development due to nutritional starvation from a fish/rice diet.
97ac8d No.586361
>Thread starts as discussion of latest gear shown at Eurosatory
>Descends into pic related
It's not that I'm not enjoying the conversation, but does anyone have any info about the new shit that was presented at the show?
acd8c1 No.586378
>>586361
You're being self centered, the hungarian here >>585440 identified when the thread died.
97ac8d No.586380
>>586378
Repeating a point I hadn't read makes me self centred? Would echoing his request not amplify it instead?
cb2beb No.586419
>>586309
It's not like you're fighting in vietnamese jungles where no one can see where the sperg-gook is sperging out from, and even if rest of the platoon can tell where squad A is engaging some enemy, and can see approximately where that enemy is from squad A's point of view, they still have to get somewhere from where they can do something to help squad A. And unless squad A is engaged in hand to hand combat with rocks and stones like some techno-barbarians, I believe that guns are still loud enough to the point where squad B and C can roughly tell where the shooty stuff is happening. And to get there B & C still has to advance with care, high tech gear or not, as they still can't see through most solid materials and most likely won't know where rest of the enemies are.
Point of this tired late night rant is that that camera gear basically does nothing that can't be done over radio. It's cost inefficient to equip whole infantry platoons with that shit, when it's squad leaders at most that might have some use for that fancy gear. And even then it's disgustingly cost-inefficient way of doing things.
But then again, it's germans we're talking about.
237030 No.586430
>>586380
Has the sun set on the british empire yet?
I'm kidding, but the ability of anglosphere countries to shitpost has to come from somewhere right?
>>586419
I wont be suprised if there's a shit ton of the way to fuck up the system or jam it.
97ac8d No.586435
>>586430
>Has the sun set on the british empire yet?
Come on man, you know that God doesn't trust us in the dark.
<Akrotiri and Dhekelia
<Anguilla
<Bermuda
<British Antarctic Territory
<British Indian Ocean Territory
<British Virgin Islands
<Cayman Islands
<Falkland Islands
<Gibraltar
<Montserrat
<Pitcairn, Henderson, Ducie and Oeno Islands
<Saint Helena
<Ascension Island
<Tristan da Cunha
<South Georgia Islands
<South Sandwich Islands
<Turks and Caicos Islands
<Guernsey
<Alderney
<Sark
<Bailiwick of Jersey
<Isle of Man
She's not all that she used to be, but there's life in the old bitch yet.
2c68ea No.586554
>>585539
>One of those can probably take on a M1A2 squad and just murder-rape them
How would that happen exactly? I mean, I can see it ambushing them again-and-again until the platoon is gone, but what makes it so good at that job? Just the sensors?
8ccd22 No.586564
>>586554
Much better sensors, stupid missiles (MMP do everything, it was a fucking long time coming, they replace Milan, Eryx and HOT, but they basically have every feature any missiles ever had and then some) with a longer range than a tank gun, close range gun that shred through armor (sure one 40mm will not go through an Abrams armor, but with APFSDS rounds that are given at 1.2 MOA… Yeah it's actually that stupid it's a 40mm that is more accurate than most rifles, so you can do bursts that hit consistently the same place with 150mm RHA penetration at 1.5km for each round, at 200 rnds per minutes).
It's really meant to be a maneuver vehicle in the traditional spirit of french cavalry, something that go fast, hit hard and is perfect for surprise actions.
Also they look big on pictures but they're not, they're the length of an ERC-90 with a slightly smaller body than an AMX-10RC (both of which aren't particularly big to begin with and you can fit 2 in an A-400M).
947085 No.586573
>>586435
>names an island "Turks"
237030 No.586939
>>586573
>Complaining as Greece when you haven't achieved the Megali Idea and reformed Byzantium
780ba3 No.586965
>>586939
>Current year
>Referring to 'Eastern Roman Empire's as 'Byzantium'
Imagine being this uneducated.
f4eec2 No.587042
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>>586939
>>Complaining as Greece when you haven't achieved the Megali Idea
>have half our Anatolian population genocided
>with minor logistical support from the eternal anglo fight 1vs5 with turkroaches and reach their capital and last fortification of all retreating turkroaches at the furthest reach of Asia Minor
>perfidious albions ragequit for absolutely no reason forcing our front to defend their retreat with bayonets and harsh language
>Gee… WHAT COULD POSSIBLY GO WRONG?!
9589e2 No.587061
>>587042
>Britain achieves its goal for a campaign, leaves the warzone as it has no reason to stay there.
>ERMAGERD
>PERFEDEEUS ALBEEON!!!!!!
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That's what you sound like Greece.
2a8377 No.587068
>>587042
>REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE WHY WON'T YOU KEEP FUNDING AND SUPPORTING US SO WE DON'T HAVE TO BE RELIANT ON OURSELVES!?
That's Germany's job now, not ours.
f4eec2 No.587126
>>587061
>>Britain achieves its goal for a campaign, leaves the warzone as it has no reason to stay there.
>end alliance in the middle of a war at a critical moment without a warning because their microgeopolitical goals were achieved
>thinks it's normal and not dishounorable
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237030 No.587222
>>587126
>Implying that you should rely on allies instead of your own strength.
Geeze, and I thought the west had learnt from Poland and France.
Sage but anyone have ideas about the new "stop soros" law in Hungary?
2f215f No.587225
>>587061
>>587068
They did defend your retreat, and you did retreat from the battlefield without warning them ahead of time.
That's kind of like going with your friends and picking a fight, then running away and letting your buddies get beat to fuck.
2f215f No.587227
>>586564
>40mm will not go through an Abrams armor,
It will through the back hull and turret, it's only 100mm RHA there.
The downside to that missile monster is eventually someone is going to come along with an 14.5mm on a pickup truck and just completely demolish $1 million worth of missiles and equipment in one $150 burst.
8ccd22 No.587251
>>587227
At 180 rounds per minutes, 150mm penetration per darts barely any spread, 1.2 MOA accuracy, a five second burst will go through any part of a M1A2.
9589e2 No.587348
>>587126
>Greece begs Britain for help in their war with the Turks
>"OK, we'll do this bit that matters to us m8".
>Britain does the bit that matters to it, withdraws
>WOUD WOEIJWOEWEIOJ O!!!!! PREFEDULOUS ALBEON! WHY YOU NO CARRY ME FOREBBER!!!
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!
>Gyrosnigger_shut_up_and_pay_debnts.jpg
2f215f No.587372
>>587348
Brussels created the debt situation as well, EU funded the communist party that grew from 3% support to 40% and took over the government, borrowing all the while what it can't afford to repay.
f4eec2 No.587398
>>587222
>I thought the west had learnt from Poland and France.
That was after the Greco-Turkish war but you are right, it was completely retarded to trust albions, especially when they managed to fuck up retaking The City just a decade ago.
9589e2 No.587405
>>587372
That's how Brussels works, fund the party that they think will be the most compliant, then threaten to withhold funding if they ever step out of line. They tried to do the same thing with the SNP in Scotland.
d49d50 No.587488
>>586331
>And skatos sounds nothing like shit, try again.
anon i dont think you understand. have an example from friendly magickfags tirade
>In case this seems even remotely like a stretch, remember the Greek "Sargon" is derived from the Akkadian Sarru-kinu, Osiris comes from Wsjr (!), Jesus comes from Y'shua, James comes from Ya'acov, Solomon comes from Sh'lomoh OY VEY, Jupiter comes from Dies Pitar, Cyrus comes from Khurvash, Nepththys comes from Nebet-Het, York comes from Eboracum, Jersey comes from Caesarea and so on and so forth all the way down the line.
i dont think you even comprehend how these things are
c2daed No.587981
>>587488
>488
Hellenisms confirmed vocabular Masterrace.
ee6509 No.590345
GUYS! Let's assume, for the sake of argument, that the Potato famine was caused by the British. How was this a bad thing? Was anything of value even lost?
Can the Irish even be considered White?
e26a1c No.590377
>>586138
in the us anyway, i would attribute it to lack of access to native speakers. what good is a language if you have no one to speak it with? this lack of access further compounds the problem by creating a lack of need for needing to know the language.
9e98f5 No.590399
>>590345
The Irish not being white was literally a British meme that no one actually believed. The Irish are literally the most oppressed people throughout history.
577d69 No.590433
>>590399
t. potato nigger descendant
9baa29 No.590461
>>586335
>Skatos becomes scat, but it is not shit, that's another word altogether.
>Spergook has a better understanding of the English language than our transchannel neighbours.
The etymology of the word 'shit' varies depending on whether you're using it as a noun or a verb.
'Scytel' (sky-tull), the old English noun for excrement has strong Germanic links. While the verb 'Scitan' (skeeten) comes directly from the North-Frisian 'Skitj' (skeet) and the German 'Skit' (skit).
>>590399
Quiet, Paddy, the only reason your relatives in Ireland aren't currently sacrificing each other (publicly at least) and living under the rule of the druids is because we stepped in and helped them develop - an act of charity that we've received nothing but grief for so far.
da37de No.590483
>>590345
>the (((Eternal Anglo))), Destroyer of Europe, Lapdog of Bankers, Slayer of Afrikaners, Beginning of Israel, End of Rhodesia, Friend of Stalin, Prohibitor of Knives, is the authority on who is and is not white
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577d69 No.590485
>>590484
Is there any ethnic group of significant size that didn't want to be jews?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_ethnic_divisions
9baa29 No.591958
>>590483
>Can you hear it?
>A voice
>Whispering in the distance
<Fffffiiiiiiiffffffftttttttyyyyy
<ssssssssiiiiiiiiiiixxxxxxxx
<ppppeeerrrrcccceeeeennnnnttt
c515aa No.591973
>>590485
How about most other ethnic groups? Your link leads to a list of various jewish "subethnicities", not to a list of we-wuz-der-Juden-theories.