[ / / / / / / / / / / / / / ] [ dir / animu / arepa / boers / fringe / hisrol / tacos / wooo / zenpol ]

/k/ - Weapons

Salt raifus and raifu accessories
Email
Comment *
File
* = required field[▶ Show post options & limits]
Confused? See the FAQ.
Embed
(replaces files and can be used instead)
Options
Password (For file and post deletion.)

Allowed file types:jpg, jpeg, gif, png, webm, mp4, pdf
Max filesize is 16 MB.
Max image dimensions are 15000 x 15000.
You may upload 5 per post.


There's no discharge in the war!

File: b814b8b54a079c8⋯.jpg (75.71 KB, 697x524, 697:524, .50 BMG open bolt blowback.jpg)

f47a07 No.570645

ITT you choose/design your own service rifle and pistol. Hard mode: choose/design an MBT (or a different "standard" armoured vehicle if you think MBTs a shit), fighter, CAS plane, or any other shit you have in mind.

My ideal service rifle would be based mostly on the AR, but with no forward assist and chambered in 5.45x39. Lower would be redesigned from the ground up to be made of polymer, but not have crap durability. Similar to the cav-arms lower that was released a few years ago but with better sling attachment and if possible able to accommodate folding/telescoping stock. Handguard would be free-floated, either a stiff polymer or carbon fibermeme. The actual cartridge would for the most part be the same as 5.45x39, but brass-cased and using modern propellant. Bullet would keep the spoontip of course.

>pistol

This isn't really that important for militaries, and we're so close to perfection already. A CZ SP-01 chambered for .357 SIG should do it.

>MBT/some other armour

I really don't know enough about tonks to make an informed decision. The Russians seem to have some good ideas with the T-14/15 though, with remote autoloading turrets and a modular chassis.

>CAS

Modernized A-10 for BRRRT. However in a non-kiked military artillery should be emphasized over CAS when practical

>artillery

Bring Gerald Bull back from the dead and give him free reign to design new shit.

276408 No.570659

>service rifle

G3

>SAW

MG3

>pistol

idk. something chambered for 10mm auto

>MBT

wouldnt have one, would rely on IFVs with ATGMs and auto cannons

>CAS

some sort of prop plane, maybe a modernized A1 skyraider, and some sort of attack helicopter a la Mi-28

>artillery

rockets, smart and dumb. fuck howitzers


072c3d No.570661

>>570645

>Service rifle

A toss up between either the FAMAS or an AR with a roller-delayed upper. If I'm going with the roller-delayed mechanism then it should have a longer wedge to hold the action shut longer than is typical in HK rifles. They should be chambered in either 5.56x45 or 5.45x39.

I really wish the Russians had adopted the TKB-517. In every measurable way it was a better rifle than the AK, it just got there too late.

>LMG/SAW

A heavy barrel version of the service rifle, issued with a bipod and box mags 10-20 rounds larger than standard.

>pistol

I'm pretty sure that pistols were only used in about a dozen combat kills in World War 2 so a Makarov is my first choice, though a Hi-Point C9 will work too.

>MBT/some other armor

I'd start out with Chinese Type 08 export models. The VN-1C and SWS-2 look like good platforms to build on. Add a lot more ATGMs and some of that new Composite Metal Foam (CMF) armor and reactive armor tiles.

New armor would be purchased or developed as needs arose. It don't think MBTs are shit, they're aren't very many countries that field a huge number of them (America, Russia, China) and the 30-40 year old rust buckets with cement armor in Goatfuckistan aren't going to present much of a threat to coordinated attack with guided missiles.

>CAS

North American Rockwell OV-10 Bronco. A good, solid, proven plane that would do the job it needs to and be inexpensive to operate and maintain. The Textron AirLand Scorpion is the second choice and, if it proves to be better in trials, it may replace the OV-10.

>artillery

BM-21 Grad or Chinese Type 81/Type 83. A lot of people underestimate the need for speed in artillery duels. The enemy can't return fire if they're dead.


7aa941 No.570662

>>570645

This could be fun.

>service rifle

First, of, LETS STANDARDIZE THE AR-10

that size of bolt can be made small, to hold things like 6.5 memedal, which honestly isn't a bad choice, or 50 beowolf, or a host of other choices. Recognizing the importance of carrying more ammunition, while not wanting to limit ourselves to the 556, I'd say let's go with about the 6.8 SPC, 16" barrel with a 14.5" not too hard to get. DMRs get the venerated 762 real-flippin'-NATO in 20", or 6.5 creedmore / 24" if they want to be snowflakes. (actual snipers would get to be as snowflake as they like so long as they can demonstrate 1/4 MOA at 1,000 yards during yearly qualifications)

This has the side effect of making it much easier for civvies to build giant wildcats-of-the-week like 45 Raptor, or rechamber their former service rifle for 270 WSM, much cheaper/easier.

>pistol

Not having studied their usage, I shall make some random guesses. They're good for dealing with ambushes when you didn't have your service rifle already in your hands. They're also good for making officers look more decorated.

So, is there any difference between a "double stack 1911" and a "2011 style pistol" ? Because that's my choice here. Slide (barrel/ammo) would be available in two forms: 10mm (or, a re-imagining of the .45ACP, such that it's a forty-five but with modern metallurgy / pressure limits kept in mind) for most cases, particular for guard duty where you expect combatants are towel-heads or the equivalent, IE no armor. For military engagements, something small, fast and armor piercing. Bring back the 5.7 SS190, use sabots for SS109 bullets (accuracy in cases where a soldier uses his pistol are likely to be completely irrelevant) or start with the .357 SIG and build it up.

Too, the .357 SIG could actually have several loads – long, heavy hollow-base for Stoppin'Powah, and carbide or carbon -steel core zingers for AP.


a705bf No.570667

>service rifle

Nugget

>SAW

5 Nuggets somehow firelinked together

>pistol

Obrez Nugget

>MBT

Toyota with a Nugget out the window

>CAS

Cessna with a Nugget

>Artillery

Nugget pointed at sky


96b7dd No.570679

>service rifle

Bullpup firing 65.meme polymer cased telescopic rounds. The bullet and load should be similar to 6.5mm Arisaka.

>SAW

Overheating is hardly a problem with polymer ammo, so you could build the standard service rifle massive enough to be used as a SAW with quadstack magazines.

>pistol

Whatever, itshould spit fast 6.5mm boolits.

>CAS

Just use drones for artillery direction instead.

>artillery

Russian GPMGs for every platoon. Battalions get a battery of MRLSs with guided rockets. For proper artillery work have independent artillery regiments with CLGG cannons that can fire shells with a weight of 100kg to at least 200km.


22ab00 No.570714

File: 59c626cbc3fac08⋯.jpg (415.31 KB, 980x1598, 490:799, Barnes 'the madman actuall….jpg)

>>570645

>Rifle

As much as I want to go maximum autism and shill 'muh .280 Brit', 7.62mm NATO does the job perfectly well, and if you can keep the squaddies sufficiently supplied the weight of ammunition is a negligible point. If we're using a 7.62mm NATO rifle then it comes down to the G3 or the FAL (or their variants) and the FAL wins that fight 99 times out of a hundred. So, some form of FAL.

>Pistol

OK, I can't hold off on shilling the .280 round forever, with modern materials and chemistry you could probably build a pistol sized round that matched (if not exceeded) its ballistic performance, allowing you to have a shared round for all weapons, reducing the stress for your logistical units considerably - if we're going for maximum /k/ erections then load it into an autorevolver based on the Webley-Fosbury. If I'm being a complete fucking 'tard in that sentence then fuck it, a +p .45 round in a generic self loading pistol is good enough. You can probably cut the +p there, as a pistol is only likely to be used when everything else has gone to shit.

>Armoured Vehicle

Let's start with an FV-510 Warrior IFV. Swap out the proposed 40mm cannon with an 80mm gun (mounted with capacity for high angle fire, so it can pretend to be the poor mans mortar and AA if needed). Swap out the current engine for a marine built diesel engine (at least 1000 horses, doubling the power available), and add a few active protection measures. I'd want to say go with hard kill because fuck the other guys ATGM, but soft kill should be good enough to do the job just as well. If the APS is good enough then you can cut the thickness of the armour to compensate for the bigger gun, barrel launched ATGM, and APS.

>Aircraft designed for maximum sexy

I want to say that there should be a way to use the Blackburn Buccaneer airframe as a standard format for everything, but that's bullshit. As sexy as that plane is a good interceptor will never be a good CAS bird. So let's restrict our focus to the support role of the chairforce and have them blowing shit up for dismounted infantry. In that role the lowered stall speed of the Buccaneer (from the reduced airflow separation at the trailing edge of the wing) should allow it to take long enough to identify and destroy ground targets with dumb bombs, combined with the supersonic top speed should allow it to get to places sufficiently quickly.

On a scale from 10 to 10 how much of a faggot am I?


e08838 No.570863

we had this thread before. is it necessary again? i just don't see the point anymore.




[Return][Go to top][Catalog][Nerve Center][Cancer][Post a Reply]
Delete Post [ ]
[]
[ / / / / / / / / / / / / / ] [ dir / animu / arepa / boers / fringe / hisrol / tacos / wooo / zenpol ]