/k/ - Weapons

>Not .338 lapua

For fucks sake.

>>569926

>wanting the marines to use .338 Lapoointheloo

I was about to yell at you…but given the Marine propensity to eat crayons and draw dicks on everything this makes sense.

>muhreens adopt .300 REMCHESTERBY MAGNUM

>tried adopting 7.62 NATO battle rifles previously

>still using the M45 in small numbers despite them consistently blowing up

The fudds of the US Armed Forces.

>>569932

The Marines got jealous of the Army's shiny M2010 ESR.

>>569926

Why not 6.5 CM?

>>569925

>Effective range of 1300m

I need this

>>569929

>Marine propensity to eat crayons

Redpill me on this. Where are the crayons?

>>569962

Are you just taking the piss or do you seriously not know what that expression means?

>>569929

>he doesn't draw dicks on everything

You're spitting on MILLENNIA of human tradition.

>>569962

You wanna know how you kill a fuckton of marines without taking a shot? You glue some sand on a wall and tell em to take the beach.

>>569941

6.5 CM is great on the .308 range of recoil impulse/power.

300 WM is clearly a step above on that aspect (about 60% more energy at muzzle).

It is almost like comparing 5.56 to 6.5x55 (around 60-80% more powerful).

>>569962

>buddy was navy tech boarding with marines

>new equipment is loaded onto the ship and they have to bolt it down so it doesn't slide or tumble at sea

>marines ordered to help navy bolt shit down and this includes several special-made computers in full cabinets

>marines can't figure out how to do it and proceed to drill 3/8" holes for lag bolts through computers

>holes go through mobos and several million dollerydoos ruined by a fireteam of jarheads armed with cordless drills

>>570012

The USMC are a serious fighting force, why would they use a meme round?

>>570006

What if you made a 6.5 cartridge with the case capacity of .300 winmag, and a long, thin 6.5mm bullet with approximately the same weight?

>>570062

Who would ever want an effective small arm? There's no market for that

>>569928

Why is the barrel shiny? Aren't snipers supposed to be hidden?

>>570133

Why, so they can sell the USMC Tactical™ Stealth™ Barrel Shrouds, for only 699 shekels a piece!

>>570006

yes, but there are delusion faggots like >>570012

who think le epic 6.5 mememoor is universally superior because of "muh BC," which they have no personal experience with btw.

in the right gun 300 win mag isn't that bad for recoil, but of course in something like a plastic-stock regular ol hunting rifle it's going to destroy your shoulder.

For me the real issue is cost. 300 win mag is roughly 1 dollar per round now, cheaper than 6.5 mememoor and you get dramatically better performance.

>>570154

.300 winmag performs better than Creedmoor, sure. But, certeris parabus, wouldn't a 6.5 cartridge with the same case capacity and bullet weight of .300 winmag perform better because of "muh BC"?

>>570065

>glow-in-the-dark spray paint

Fucking beautiful. Hell, if you're retreating, you can do things like weld dicks into metal surfaces or carve enormous dicks out of stone. Give the job to the guys taking a break rigging the area with boobytraps.

>>570062

>>570006

The way to go is neckless 6.5mm.

But it require some actual R&D and sharing propellant tech from bigger ordinance that have managed to get rid of the necks, instead of what is essentially jury rigging made by people in garages, to have a thin, as straight as possible cartridge with a muzzle velocity about the same as the current CM.

Essentially it would look like a bit longer .300 BLK but in 6.5.

Doing so you could actually replace 5.56mm rifles with 6.5 ones while barely affecting combat loads and increasing by a stupid amount small arms effectiveness.

>>570154

>>570166

Would 6.5 be a good replacement for 223 or 308?

>>570169

Both.

We could have a true intermediate caliber for the whole "0 to 1000 yards" range out of a rifle, smaller would be pistols/pdw rounds, bigger would be .50.

We do have the proper bullet for it, we have seen them work, now all that's left is actually designing the case and propellent for it, so you can feed them reliably in a an AR without being much bigger/heavier than a 5.56 rounds.

It is completely within reach, but it's one of those things that need actual money thrown at it to get it.

>>570156

If you take the 264 win mag and .300 each using maximum bc loads, the .264 nearly equals the 300 in speed and trajectory, so close that it's really meaningless, so I would assume that yes, if that were possible you would have a flatter shooting and faster round with similar downrange energy.

>>570169

For .308, yeah. .308 isn't a very flat shooting round, I honestly don't like it even though I had a giant ar-10 money pit. I would be worried about having to rapid fire a 6.5 creedmoor in rapid-fire situations where the 5.56 performs basically like a sub-machine gun. It is a rifle-powered cartridge after all.

>>570166

>>570181

What about something like 7.92x41mm CETME?

>>570181

>.264 win mag

Oh god that round and I have some bad memories. It kicks like a mule on meth but goddamn its a flat shooting round.

Its so funny to see boutique rifle rounds try and replicate results done in the fucking 60s.

>>570183

honestly have no idea what that is. Looks very similar to the Kurz round of the stg but with more power, but then we're approaching 300 blackout territory.

>>570188

that's mainly why I'm pretty pissed off at this 6.5 mememoor craze: we already have rounds of the same caliber and which do stuff just as well, if not better. The whole thing is a craven corporate marketing campaign to steal your money.

>>570207

Hell, even the boutique .270 weatherby mag has been killing shit for ages. The civilian market perfects a round, 50 years later the US military adopts a modification of an already existing round for arbitrary reasons over the parent or predecessor.

This is a bunch of idiots shooting dead pigs with Thompsons to prove to the Army that .45 ACP for pistols and .30cal for rifles is the best shit ever and any other idea reeks of homosexuality.

<Not knocking either round but the justification was stupid and unscientific.

6.5 is a good round, but so are other existing calibers with a lot more field testing behind them.

Damn, now I want to build a .264 win mag, tube rifle. With the biggest fucking brake I can find.

>>570207

The problem that I have with the winchester magnum series of stuff is its belted ammunition where as the mememore will actually work in something that isn't just a bolt action

>>569929

I'm a mouthbreather myself, but I don't know of any problems with 338 lapua?

>>570316

The only "issue" is that complete no nothings drooled over it being a super special sniper round for a long time. So it became a meme.

>>570316

cost. $3 per shot.

it's powerful but not enough to really be anti-material, but it's still so powerful that it requires a heavy gun to shoot effectively, and the 300 win mag isn't that far behind it in terms of trajectory, using elite ammo that is. It's really a strange round.

Does this mean cheap surplus m40s or is it all going to leo?

>>570490

Yeah I am sure le based Trump will get right on having the muhreens give them to the CMP.

>>570154

>6.5 mememoor is the only 6.5 cartridge in existence

ok kid

>>570737

Shut up you irrelevant country. The UNITED (joined together politically, for a common purpose, or by common feelings.) STATES (a nation or territory considered as an organized political community under one government.) is the only real country left in the world. While you foreigners are intoxicating yourselves on rotten fish, we AMERICANS (USA) are constantly struggling to keep the world alive. We're like Atlas keeping the world propped on his shoulders, and if you ungrateful brats keep disrespecting us, we're going to shrug. If it weren't for us you would all be sitting in mud huts cannibalizing fresh kills from the enemy tribe, roasted on a peat fire. We gain nothing from helping you besides keeping you alive for our own amusement. The rest of the world is like children dressing in daddy's Sunday suit and sitting at his desk pretending to be a grown up ready to take care of business. Get off our chair and take off that suit, and go play outside, kid, while the grown ups worry about grown up things.

>>570163

Also, before removal, they have to check dicks for booby traps. More work.

>>570005

>>569932

>lemme signal against actual military

>sooooo hurdcure

>>571021

Imagine getting so upset over people calling the marines retarded that you can only imagine it's done for political purposes

>>571021

>t. muhreen

So how quickly did you blow through the signing bonus, or was the recruiter lying when he said you'd get one?