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There's no discharge in the war!

File: 455869241f3dded⋯.png (611.49 KB, 1200x423, 400:141, ho3 (1).png)

File: e064e860581a980⋯.png (828.01 KB, 1200x758, 600:379, ho3 (2).png)

a7a272 No.569774

This is the H03, a spy plane. Very few places on the net are talking about it, so I thought /k/ should too.

It's predecessor, the Firebird, had 40 hours endurance 30,000ft ceiling, and two hardpoints for mission payload. The H03 looks to have 4 hardpoints, noise reduction technology, and it probably also operates longer than two days and at a higher altitude.

The key point of these aircraft is that they can be flown with or without a pilot. In other words two passengers can sit in them, go to sleep, and a guy 10,000km on the ground could control the aircraft.

ac5bd5 No.569775

Looks /k/omfy. can it carry nukes?


984558 No.569776

File: f53d9292282e723⋯.gif (187.68 KB, 540x603, 60:67, ashamed_staring_cutie.gif)

>>569774

>pusher prop

>that wing+tail configuration


312362 No.569777

>>569774

Is this Burt Rutan again?


056278 No.569785

File: 1e7ffe36961b82e⋯.jpg (21.54 KB, 474x316, 3:2, f5f.jpg)

Wow this thing has better endurance than Global Hawk

NG has always had good engineers, to bad they don't have good lobbyists.

>>569777

>burnt retan


ac5bd5 No.569789

File: 2a770dd62ed626d⋯.jpg (239.33 KB, 1800x1172, 450:293, f25b030f0141212e2fcf21e476….jpg)

>>569776

Are you about to commissions lewds Bosch?

>>569785

>they don't have good lobbyists.

They'd do better if they hired a bunch of prostitutes and got them to suck dick of Senators in order to get their planes off the ground. Honestly anything would be an improvement over their sale's team.


42ce77 No.569797

>drone pilot combo

While the idea is neat, it presents a lot of engineering problems. Drone controls are easy and rather lightweight to implement. A drone has different safety requirements, doesn't need a pressureized interior or even a heating system.

Adding all of these systems and enough space for a pilot/co pilot to not cramp the fuck up after 40+ hours in that thing will weigh the plane down even further. The canopy also makes the plane aerodynamically disadvantaged compared to a simple drone. The only real "advantage" this version has is that there is no input lag for the pilots, but that's only really important when engaging moving targets or working close to friendlies.

Maybe this is something for ops in Pakistan, so the US can reasonably deny having any BODY in Paki-airspace, while using the drone/plane as backup for raids into Paki-clay.


ac5bd5 No.569800

File: 971ca69c66e0caf⋯.webm (15.74 MB, 1280x720, 16:9, 15223253388953.webm)

>>569797

Might as well repost some fresh fruits.


42ce77 No.569810

File: baf3fe2b87313b0⋯.png (235.5 KB, 576x448, 9:7, jesus christ what the actu….png)


3d3676 No.569813

>>569800

>U.S. Airforce Commissions /k/.webm


7ca5e1 No.569815

>>569800

autism


d73df8 No.569834

>>569800

>pilot(?) controlled drone wingmen

This almost seems like a good idea, although if it's supposed to be pilot controlled it'd do nothing but massively increase the workload. Still, it seems like most objectives that this seeks to do could be just made into a longer-range missile and it'd work better.

>pilot biometrics

Can't really see anything wrong with it, but don't quite see a good purpose to it either. Maybe link it to the flight computer to influence felt G-forces or something.

>cluster glide bomb

Find me a situation where we needed to hit 100+ targets simultaneously and could fly a cargo plane overhead.

>EMP(?) proximity device on a missile I think

No comment.

>Fricken laser beams

No comment.

None of those pack the pure hilarious punch of Fresh Fruits, but still pretty good.


a97c03 No.569837

>>569800

>ACE COMBAT 9

>GIANT PLANES KEPT GETTING SHOT DOWN BY A GUY WITH UNGUIDED BOMBS

<coming 2045


c337c2 No.569840

>>569837

Had not a paki shot down a pajeet like this?


70e1b9 No.569849

>>569800

WHY IS THERE AN ENTIRE FUCKING INDEPENDENT ROBOT TO PUSH A BOMB OUT OF A BOMBER?

WE'VE HAD SYSTEMS THAT DO THIS MORE CHEAPLY SINCE THE 1930s

WE HAVE FUCKING GRAVITY

WHY


ac5bd5 No.569851

File: 14136cbe546f4ff⋯.jpg (98.44 KB, 495x348, 165:116, germanflechettes[1].jpg)

>>569849

Gravity isn't free


70e1b9 No.569852

>>569851

I expect this stupidity from the nips but not from the bloody yanks.


3b332c No.569855

>>569852

Would you expect it from jews? Because that would explain everything.


cc5fd1 No.569856

>>569849

Because you can't sell gravity.


ac5bd5 No.569857

File: 0479353bbfba168⋯.jpg (61.4 KB, 1050x550, 21:11, gravity payments.jpg)

>>569856

That's where your wrong kiddo!


42ce77 No.569889

>>569851

What's so bad about this? When planes were a novelty and you wanted to kill infantry you could drop a bunch of lead flechettes from a plane and save yourself some explosives.

Lead is cheap and always available. Shaping it into flechettes can be done for cheap too, since it's fucking lead. Keeping a box of them on your plane, and dropping them once you see an infantry formation marching along a street. It's a cheap method to kill a bunch of French guys. I thought you Brits were into that sort of thing.


bc454e No.569892

>>569889

>When planes were a novelty

It's kind of neat to read the official day-to-day war diaries from WWI. Units new to the front tend to describe every sighting of aircraft, including number and direction, then as the war goes on they just start recording attacks or shootdowns, and eventually it just becomes a footnote with "Cpl So-and-so killed by aircraft" or not mentioned at all.

Most of those guys had probably never actually seen an airplane before the war, and by its end they were an everyday occurrence.


3b3418 No.569900

>>569849

Because the air force keeps recruiting liberal arts majors instead of physics majors.


b6a58c No.569903

>>569774

I don't think it's actually meant for manned 40hr missions.

When you're getting into that kind of duration, you actually need a toilet. Diapers/catheters only go so far.

>>569892

It's even more interesting to think some of those planes they wrote about are still flying.

>>569900

>double dubs of truth

When will the chair force ever realize they need to devote more resources to CAS? They really need to design an A-10 replacement that doesn't compromise on armament or the gun, but instead the decide to go with ac-130 bcus cowadooty and the f-35 because lockheeb told them it was the invisible™ 5th gen™ multirole fighter™ of the future.


085367 No.569916

>>569849

To reduce robot unemployment.


a137cd No.570030

>>569800

Did… did it just print a man?


7a9ffa No.570034

File: 8051e35ffe02138⋯.jpeg (102.21 KB, 800x600, 4:3, FU-GO BOMB.jpeg)

>>569852

>I expect this stupidity from the nips

You can't just expect gravity to do all the work; also balloon bombs aren't stupid


7bf0fc No.570172

>>569785

>>569789

>lobbying organically evolves into hiring high-class prostitutes with new bills for lawmakers

You know what, it wouldn't be the first time a leaf and bong started a new mutt tradition.


03b622 No.570189

>>570034

Nip bro, I like you, but the balloon bombs were pants on head retarded. Its a good idea on paper, set large swaths of forest on fire to tie up resources of an enemy force. Problem came with execution. Winds carried the payloads way off target and I think only one minor fire in Canada was linked to the Nip balloons. And the Nips forgot about the rather robust United States Forest Service. AKA the guys that taught the Army how to jump out of planes to do their job faster.


aea10a No.570201

>>570172

US flag and throwing mutt around, for shame. Anyways high-class prostitutes are already part of the lobbyists' toolkit.


0e8e21 No.570224

>>570189

Ah the USFS, the one government organization I will never ever give disrespect to.


03b622 No.570226

>>570224

And they have the best fucking stories.

>No we did not let the Soviet exchange jumpers ride the buffalo.

>Yes we did instigate the largest intergovernemental snowball fight in history that escalated to outright tool throwing.

>Yeah, we backburned the fuck out of that massive pot field.

>Hold my Pulaski, watch this.

>So I socked the panicking logger in the face, and dragged his ass into the river before the fire over ran us.

>Why yes, we did manage to save the nudist colony.

>And then, the cactus exploded.

>Since we didn't "know" where the border was, we might have put out a massive grassfire in Mexico… Oh, you destroyed the plaque the Mexican government sent as thanks…

>Yeah that 70 year old retired jumper is still clearing trails with other retired jumpers.

>So after I my buddy kicked in the shitter door and threw the soap, I followed with the hose, and plastered the funny pages to a fat woman taking a shit. And that's how I got moved to Fire from Maintenance.

>No, the hotshots didn't put a radiator hose and two blue reflectors on the Smokey Bear sign.

Unsung heros.

sage for off topic


033092 No.570246

File: 2bfbcec00a5f73a⋯.jpg (51.79 KB, 1024x680, 128:85, 1200px-cessna_208b_grand_c….jpg)

File: d11e2386fd635d5⋯.png (34.4 KB, 866x504, 433:252, afdbcv.png)

I've had this idea rattling around in my head, might as well pitch it here.

<Objective: Convert a civilian aircraft into level-attitude bomber able to be crewed by a (mostly) untrained crew at a low cost.

<Assumptions of scenario: Regional conflict, such as between African warlords. Enemy force has little effective AA coverage, mostly limited to the occasional ZU-23-2 or outdated MANPADS.

>take a 208 Caravan or something similar (substitute a twin-engine if you need a larger payload)

>crew: 1 pilot, 1 co-pilot/navigator/bombardier, 2 assistants in back

>tear out the passenger compartment seats

>either remove the rear door or install one of those skydiving roller doors

>have your bomb on one of those mechanic roller things you use for working under cars

>for multiple bombs, bolt in a simple guide rail system leading to the door

>mount a simple bombsight for the co-pilot to use, likely calibrated for a set height/speed

>give everyone parachutes, assistants get lockbreakers to toss out if they see a missile launch as an absolute last-ditch effort

<target run procedure

>pilot sets speed and altitude

>bombardier focuses on target, gives pilot instructions for aim correction

>once target is in sight, bombardier gives drop command to assistants

>assistants shove bomb(s) out the rear door

My main concerns about this are whether the accuracy would be bad enough to make it not worth it, and whether worrying about an IR seeker picking up a pistol engine are justified.


f722fd No.570251

File: 48a4a8b4a2f0fdd⋯.jpg (150.87 KB, 680x1000, 17:25, poster.jpg)

>>569834

It's already been thought of.

It's a great idea on paper.


e06ed6 No.570252

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>570246

>have your bomb on one of those mechanic roller things you use for working under cars

A mechanic's creeper

As far as the bombs themselves would be concerned you could just fill 55 gallon drums with Napalm.


033092 No.570255

>>570252

>A mechanic's creeper

I actually knew that was the name, but figured it'd be better to describe it rather than risk people not knowing what it was If we were going full civilian force, then barrels would probably be the standard.


b66222 No.570256

>>570246

What about center of gravity? So much weight shifting backwards might cause a nose-up attitude and risk a stall.


033092 No.570257

>>570256

The way I envisioned it, you'd have one bomb right at the door and maybe two on the rails. So one would be dropping out as the other two began to move backwards.


ad645e No.570408

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>569903

>When will the chair force ever realize they need to devote more resources to CAS?


232b7a No.570448

File: 32a8c5fc1c1051d⋯.jpg (392.71 KB, 1920x1200, 8:5, fastpic-b434cec475bd75886c….jpg)

>>569903

>chair force

>devote

>to CAS


f722fd No.570508

>>570252

I'm going to have to save that for the next time some faggot goes on about "those deadly baby killing Assad barrel bombs"


b6a58c No.570524

File: a434456fd38227b⋯.png (6.67 KB, 231x218, 231:218, 1505868533788.png)

>>570448

>>570408

>mfw we'll never get a better a-10

>mfw we'll only get more guns on a c-130 or w/e next medium cargo aircraft we use


000dff No.570525

>>570256

CG should not be an issue for any aircraft commonly used as a skydiver jump plane.

Since a Cessna caravan commonly takes 16 jumpers in the cargo area and each jumper weighs around 250lbs (not counting equipment) you have a potential bomb load north of 4000lbs.

Of course it would be necessary to add additional weight for a deployment system for our bombs so we would lose some potential load but we could probably still get >3500lbs of payload in there, pleasant of bombs to do some real damage. I think Iran even uses caravans to shoot hellfires and their fellow goat fuckers.

I could give more accurate numbers if I had a C208 operating handbook around with the Weight and Balance table or if I just talked to a sky diving outfit that uses one but this was just some napkin math.


7a4066 No.570539

File: 31ecd3af2c3dbf0⋯.jpg (7.55 KB, 258x195, 86:65, a-10vs manpad.jpg)

>>570524

If that makes you feel any better the greatest testament to the Hog's legendary toughness is that the biggest and most advanced Air Force in the world has been trying to kill it for decades with no success.


b6a58c No.570558

File: 38a9dbbf8720e39⋯.png (99.31 KB, 418x238, 209:119, ClipboardImage.png)

>>570525

Speaking of using common airplanes for war, piper cubs strapped with bazookas were used in ww2, apparently with great results. Reminder that the cub stalls at a 35kn.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Carpenter_(lieutenant_colonel)


232b7a No.570562

File: f558223912322b0⋯.jpg (261.68 KB, 2200x848, 275:106, 62d6e87e3218dbb3e3468c048f….jpg)

File: c2dacbfcd260297⋯.jpg (236.98 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, 62d6e87e3218dbb3e3468c048f….jpg)

>>570524

This is Model 401 from Scaled Composites, the nickname is "son of ares". Maybe it's going to be doing CAS.


12ecef No.570565

>>570562

Why does that plane look like it's made out of ABS?


ac5bd5 No.570612

File: 3410775c8370568⋯.jpg (16.75 KB, 271x317, 271:317, 15227929723630.jpg)

>>569903

>Chairforce

>Ever devoting resources to CAS


dd9315 No.570622

File: f26e47486023021⋯.png (12.06 KB, 270x100, 27:10, firefox_2018-04-08_12-01-5….png)

>>569852

that is a german plane dumbass


b6a58c No.570902

>>570562

Fucking Burt Rutan coming in to save the day, yet again. I read about the 401, i thought it's whole thing was a stealth recon(with a small payload bay in the production model) for relatively cheap. Didn't realize it was a followup on the mudfighter. I don't see space for a 30mm on the 401, even a larger version, unless they extend the fuselage(a lot).

>>570565

Burt rutan basically invented moldless composite aircraft. I'd bet this is the same; some type of foam(perhaps modern aluminum foam?) covered in fiberglass.

It's very easy to manufacture in small or large quantities compared to more standard ribbed and riveted construction, but quality control becomes more of an issue than other methods at larger production rates.


ac5bd5 No.570930

>>570902

>I don't see space for a 30mm on the 401

Probably a gunpod?


232b7a No.570939

>>570902

It's a demonstrator first of all, it's designed to show new ways to manufacture an airplane. The final version won't look anything like it, the CAS bird might just be manufactured using the same techniques and be a cheapo stealth jet.

Also…… Considering this is scaled composites, this isn't just a regular old CAS plane with some tweaks. It's likely a whole new way to do CAS. Burt Rutan is known for thinking outside the Box that "the box" is in. Now, the people on this board who are concerned with this shit, one of them at least, thinks the future CAS airplane isn't going to have a traditional cannon. Likely a short snub nose launcher like the M230, or something even more exotic like caseless gyrojets accelerating to way beyond what even the GAU-8 can manage, or new ways to do cluster munitions.


804eb5 No.570941

>>570622

>firefox


2da4cf No.571137

File: b17e10a8833322d⋯.jpg (53.35 KB, 599x800, 599:800, Theres a chink in my armor.jpg)

>>570030

No, that was supposed to be a hologram. But why?

>>569800

So first we see a single manned plane being escorted by a formation of drones. Very plausible, so far so good.

Then we see a lo-fi 3d render of a human face being projected as a hologram in the HUD. Why? What benefit does this confer on the pilot?

Next we see a drone deploying a cruise missile to engage an AA emplacement. The missile looks about on par with what is currently in use and may be able to do what it is shown doing. Good.

Then we see a remote command center with another holographic display, this time showing the whole world. Again, why?

The command center does have a display of the pilot vitals, which is good because it can notify medical staff of a problem before the pilot is aware of it or incapacitated.

But then we get another pointless hologram. This time showing the pilot standing upright with his arms out like a CG human model that hasn't been properly rigged yet. What benefit does this provide to anyone?

Next we're shown a cargo plane carrying a large cylindrical object that you could be forgiven if you assumed it was a bomb. This is fine, you don't need a dedicated stealth bomber to engage ground targets when you have air superiority. But it's being pushed out by a humanoid robot. Why? It's on a track, you don't need a man to push it along that track.

Once airborne it deploys a chute to slow its decent; perfectly normal. But it immediately begins deploying dozens of small missiles that fly in a swarm formation. Again, why? Why can't they be deployed from the back of the plane itself? What is the purpose of this cylindrical device beyond deploying these missiles immediately after it's out of a plane?

Then we're shown the deployment of a specialized cruise missile. Again, the missile looks normal, but what it does it bizarre. Everywhere it flies the power goes out like someone just flipped a switch. If this is by hacking then the missile isn't needed. If this is by EMP then there is no way this missile is concealing an EMP generator as powerful as would be needed for this to happen, and we should see evidence of surges at the plant. Now there is a way to kill a power plant in one hit without explosives; you deploy a cloud of tangled conductive filaments over all the exposed bits to short everything out. But again, you'd see it happen, and you'd probably be able to smell the plant operators from several blocks away when it's all over.

Then we get an air-to-air laser mounted on a fighter, taking out another fighter. No. Just no. While there are air-to-air lasers that can kill missiles and planes, they're in jumbo jets. The turret on the front it's the laser. The laser and its associated equipment takes up the majority of the fuselage volume. Cramming one with the same capability into a fighter the size of an F-35 just isn't happening now, or in the near future.

A couple of good ideas that may see the light of day, but on a scale from 1 to Dahir Insaat this is a solid Fresh Fruits.


405917 No.571140

File: 90f7aa3261687d4⋯.png (337.88 KB, 640x476, 160:119, 90f7aa3261687d4aa3fab607da….png)

>>570612

>tfw no big tittied goth USAF GF


4532a1 No.571153

File: cc63acd0708da56⋯.png (416.8 KB, 978x1527, 326:509, bazooka charlie.png)

>>570558

Bazooka Charlie


98302b No.571401

>>569837

>>GIANT PLANES KEPT GETTING SHOT DOWN BY A GUY WITH UNGUIDED BOMBS

I thought I was the only one who did that.

>Playing AC6

>Brother watching me

>Choose A-10 with fuel air bomb

>"Are you fucking stupid this is an air mission"

>Blow Aigaion and its destroyers up with a bomb maybe two

>Use all the points to keep siccing my wingmen on the enemy planes

>Using a ground attack aircraft with unguided bombs I knocked out the biggest air mission with double the points and half the time he ever did

>mfw

He was so pissed off, jej




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