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There's no discharge in the war!

File: 1a4d978a8240b69⋯.jpg (42.58 KB, 800x450, 16:9, bump stock.jpg)

213c31 No.568391

THEY ARE REQUIRED BY LAW TO READ AND REPLY TO EVERY COMMENT YOU SUBMIT

Time to beat our highscore of 80k comments. Ok faggots, third time is a charm. We are going to repeat our previous success and flood the ATF with comments for their “Proposed Rule-Making Re-Bump Stock Type Devices.” THEY ARE REQUIRED BY LAW TO READ AND REPLY TO EVERY COMMENT YOU SUBMIT. You may remember anons did this previously with other ATF rules changes under Obama, specifically, when they closed the trust “loop-hole” for registering NFA devices in non-NFA friendly states, and attempted to ban Green Tip ammo. We delayed the trust rule by one year, and they actually took some of our advise and removed the LEO signature requirement, and we stopped the Green Tip ammo ban altogether with 80,000 comments. This is proven to work so it is worth anons time.

Follow this link: https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2018/03/29/2018-06292/bump-stock-type-devices

Make a comment regarding why you do not approve of the rules change. Be polite, be specific, and its best if you make it custom, and as long as possible so they have to read the whole thing. I will provide suggestions in the posts below as to what you can say, or what to bring up in your comments.

https://blog.princelaw.com/2018/03/29/atf-publishes-notice-of-proposed-rulemaking-re-bump-stock-type-devices/

https://archive.is/9wCnD

https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2018/03/29/2018-06292/bump-stock-type-devices

https://archive.is/tDUFa

213c31 No.568392

File: 00d1dbc08875b77⋯.png (451.86 KB, 1000x708, 250:177, 1911.png)

>>568391

If possible print out your letter and send by snail mail. ATF added this suspect comment to this round of rule making:

>“All comments must reference the docket number ATF 2017R-22, be legible, and include the commentator's complete first and last name and full mailing address. ATF will not consider, or respond to, comments that do not meet these requirements or comments containing profanity. In addition, if ATF cannot read your comment DUE TO TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES and cannot contact you for clarification, ATF may not be able to consider your comment.”

Do not make a copy a robo letter and submit the same thing over and over as they will throw it out.


213c31 No.568393

File: b6f2a94da595511⋯.jpg (11.35 KB, 281x179, 281:179, m16.jpg)

>>568392

Questions and points to put in your letter to the ATF:

-How can the ATF define “Single function of the trigger” to include a finger “bumping” off the trigger repeatedly and therefore functioning the trigger each time?

-What will happen to all the current bump stocks in circulation? What about their owners?

-How does ATF plan to prevent criminals such as Stephen Paddock from making bump stocks from readily available parts at Home Depot for under $35 dollars, such at a metal bar and two screws with washers connected to a firearms grip and stock?

-Will ATF consider a metal bar with two screws and washers to be a machine gun if also present in the same dwelling as a semi automatic firearm, since they may be “readily restored to shoot” as a machine gun in ATF's determination?

-Will holes drilled in a pistol grip or stock be considered a machine gun in the same manner ATF considers holes drilled in certain areas of a receiver to be machine guns?

-Does ATF plan to regulate an individuals finger which can bump a trigger rapidly without assistance from bump stock type devices?

-Will this rule regulate belt loops, which can be “readily restored to shoot,” a semi automatic firearm in the same way a bump stock does. Will a belt loop be on the same level as a shoe string which ATF has classified as a machine gun in the past?

-Will wearing pants with belt loops be illegal while operating a semi automatic firearm under this rule?

-Does ATF or Congress plan on allowing citizens a legal method to register their previously owned bump stocks on the NFA registry?

-Will the act of bump firing a firearm be considered “making a machine gun?'

Feel free to add some points of your own. Please spread this far and wide, lets beat the high score of 80,000 comments.


9f4c91 No.568394

>>>/pol/11435097


1c9533 No.568414

>>568394

Jesus fucking Christ.


f97276 No.568416

>>568394

Anons like that should be permabanned, even if its a joke or satirical post.

Anyways, who do we address our letter to. I'm writing a physical letter.


f97276 No.568419

>Written comments must be postmarked and electronic comments must be submitted on or before January 25, 2018.


f97276 No.568422

>>568419

Sorry anons, this post isn't correct.

<Written comments must be postmarked and electronic comments must be submitted on or before June 27, 2018.

This is the correct date.


6f8def No.568430

>>568394

>most progun president since “theres is no reason that citizens should be carrying guns on the streets today”


69e2ef No.568432

>>568430

If it weren't for that comparison I wouldn't have realized it was satire.


f81ea4 No.568438

>>568416

Mail: Vivian Chu, Mailstop 6N-518, Office of Regulatory Affairs, Enforcement Programs and Services, Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives, 99 New York Ave. NE, Washington DC 20226. ATTN: 2017R-22.

>>568416


c40f90 No.568449

>>568392

does asking about jews count as profanity?


fadbb7 No.568502

File: 615b82adfdbc9f8⋯.png (5.49 KB, 570x185, 114:37, shallnot.png)

lesgo


acecf3 No.568505

>>568502

Nice, but the goal is to delay. Write as much as you can while remaining coherent and on-topic, because they're required to read it all. The longer they spend on each comment the better.


4a2686 No.568510

Copypasta comment add what you see fit but the important part is SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED:

"Legally, set by your own precedence, the definition of a "machine gun" is as follows - "any weapon which shoots, is designed to shoot, or can be readily restored to shoot, automatically more than one shot, without manual reloading, by a single function of the trigger."

Upon further examination of this definition, a "bump stock" fails to meet the most significant criteria.

1 - "a weapon which shoots" It does not shoot; it is a stock.

2 - "readily restored to shoot" See above.

3 - "automatically more than one shot, without manual reloading, by a single function of the trigger." The trigger actuates each time the weapon is fired.

Hereby, each component of the definition YOU arbitrarily created has been refuted to the point only an illogical person could attempt to rationalize."


e37687 No.568519

>>568391

An interesting thing I found was NBC getting salty over how the ATF can't ban bumpstocks with current legislation and also complained about hellfire triggers.

That said, a little research makes hellfire triggers look more appealing than bump stocks.


4b4fbb No.568521

>>568519

So has the federal ban effort been stalled for now due to the legal issues or what?


1b2975 No.568552

How can a non-burger help. Should I just use a US address, in which case do I check the "I am submitting on behalf of a third party" box, or do I use my real mailing address which I am naturally reluctant to do.


6859ee No.568563

>>568521

If they attempted a backdoor ban on Semi-Autos, how will the firearm industry react? Would they consider lobbying opening the MG registry at that point?


2ade6e No.568623

>>568563

They would probably just declare bankruptcy like they are now.


886319 No.568656

File: e13c50d872b4885⋯.png (103.35 KB, 700x700, 1:1, 1407197417916.png)

>>568394

>since Reagan

Jesus Christ what the fuck is wrong with nu/pol/


417bf6 No.570074

This better be on page 6 only because everyone on /k/ has already filled out a comment.




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