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21fa89 No.562656

My initial post was way tl;dr, so I'm going to try to summarize the topic and then write up my original post separately as background.

Topics:

-Is .22 a valid caliber for self-defense, concealed carry, etc?

-Is the Volquartsen Scorpion a good gun?

-Thoughts on Kirsten Joy Weiss?

21fa89 No.562661

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Now for background:

I post here once in a while, but just with hypothetical questions. I'm a strong proponent of gun rights, as is much of my family, but I've never owned one myself. I like them, but I've always kind of seen owning one as a luxury I didn't have money for, because I figure if I want to get one I should get something really good instead of something cheap that isn't accurate and will require a ton of maintenance. My older brother has a ton of military experience and owns several guns (He lives 8 hours away though, so I can't just go ask to use his.)

Recently I was working for the elections office. The story overall is a little cringy. I was asked to work the elections because I tend to be free when they need me, and this area is heavily Democrat and they always struggle to find sufficient Republicans as each side is supposed to have the same number of representatives. This year went pretty well if slow, but we had one unusual voter come in. A tall loud man. When he came in we asked what we ask everyone "Are you voting in the Republican or Democrat primary?" he screamed "WHAT DOES IT MATTER?! DEMOCRAT!" He continued screaming that he'd just gotten out of rehab, and that it was racist red state bullshit that he had to have an ID (he didn't bring one so we had to turn him away.) He returned a couple hours later, still screaming about everything from racist red states to socialist Democrats which set everyone on edge in part because the polling location was at a public elementary school. On his way out he apparently decided to flash the secretaries at the front.

Security was no where to be found, so being the largest guy in the room, I was asked to go sit at the front just in case he came back. I thought it silly at first as he'd already voted, but once all the kids came piling out I decided it better there be some buffer between them in case he did come back.

Several people texted me after work, among them my mom. I thought was a cute story, and by far the most interesting thing to happen at work, so I told her about it. She flipped out saying I wasn't hired to be security and I wasn't armed and could have been killed. Subsequently the "You need to get a gun" talk has resparked. She's brought it up virtually every time we've spoken since.

For my part, I mostly just watch gun videos on youtube. I like experimental weapons, futuretech, flashy stuff. I just watch it for entertainment. I saw a review (different from the one in OP) of the Volquartsen Scorpion, and the reviewer claimed it was the single most accurate commercially available handgun. That alone was a very convincing pitch to me.

The rest of the sales pitch was pretty compelling to me as well. The DLC coating means the gun fires very reliably with little need to clean, it weighs only 1.2lbs, it's quiet, and it's great for learning to shoot with.

Then I was it was a .22. In the right place I'm sure that'll kill, but I'm going to guess that's sufficiently less stopping power? What would be the best uses for a gun like this?

Also I was looking at a bunch of videos with that girl and was considering posting a separate topic because she's hot, and noticed she had a review of the gun I wanted to discuss, so two birds with one stone.


642d32 No.562685

File: 60cc2ec3431746b⋯.jpg (49.77 KB, 620x357, 620:357, KJW-yoga-and-guns.jpg)

>Kristen Joy Weiss

Makes my dick a diamond every time


509047 No.562690

>>562661

>the "You need to get a gun" talk has resparked

>She's brought it up virtually every time we've spoken since

You lucky motherfucker I'd kill for a mom like that.


817a6f No.562692

1. No it is not. It will probably be seen as 'cruel and unusual' in the event you have to use it, similar to how some rounds smaller than .30 caliber are banned for hunting in some states.

2. I shoot bullseye and that seems like a gimmick. You want some weight, otherwise your stability will be poor and you'll be bouncing around everywhere. Get a Feinwerkbau if you want a nice sporting pistol. I shoot a Baikal Izh-35M.

3. I don't know who she is, but she looks cute.


08d81b No.562718

>>562685

shit like this is why I hate gun bitches


fa90f2 No.562719

File: afeeca1ee65c4eb⋯.jpg (106.55 KB, 720x620, 36:31, 1421854890893.jpg)

Okay OP you're about to enter into a world of elitism and dick waving along with other people who genuinely know their shit and are very helpful. First off a .22 will not be my first choice but it certainly is better than using just your fists. I would only ever suggest using .22 for defense if you genuinely cannot get money together to buy a gun and all you had was grandpas squirrel shooter. I would choose and feel safer with either 9mm, .40, or .45, we can get into dick waving later and you can join in on the fun also once you choose one but for the most part these rounds are the so called big three as they're very common, capable of putting holes in things and goodifying, but most importantly have good cost and selection of types of ammo for both real work (defense) and plinking/training. Cost in the gun world does not always equate to quality, Kimber 1911s being a good example can be seen getting shit on by many people in just about every where gun people happen to be at.

You don't need to spend $1000+ to get a very reliable gun and no that Volquartsen is not the end all be all especially since it was never intended to be a combat/defensive gun. It is built for competition or hunting. What you should be looking into for a cc gun is a gun from a reputable manufacturer that fits you well, literally in your hand but also how it feels when shooting such as recoil. So you better hit a range that lets you rent or if you don't want your asshole turning into a smoking crater from the no lube wallet rape, bother your gun owning friends and family.

Some manufacturers that make good guns include, Smith and Wesson for affordable and damn good poly striker fired guns and high end revolvers. Ruger with their damn nice over built to beat people to death with easily when out of ammo revolvers but decent and barely making it to "good" auto loaders. Sig which have hardcore fans that swear their lives on them (They are costly so make sure you get something that fits your needs and not a limited or special edition). CZs that many hold up as one of the best designed metal framed wonder nines in the world. Beretta which is often seen as a competitor to CZ but has mags that are actually in stock and don't cost you your left nut (USGI surplus mags are everywhere), and like CZ it was copied and remade by many manufacturers (Don't you fucking buy taurus even if people say the clone of the 92 is decent. Fuck taurus). And finally even Glock which pretty much set the standard for poly striker fired handguns and cheap mags everywhere (Quite overpriced for what it is in my opinion but you should look for police trade in Glocks with little to no wear on the gun besides holster wear on the finish and some even have night sights pre-installed. In fact you should always check all these other guns for police trade in versions as you might be able to get a discount on a basically new gun for almost a third less or more in many cases).


068124 No.562721

>>562656

>.22 for self-defense

Compared to nothing? Sure, but if you have other options there are much better calibers and platforms for self defense.

>Volquartsen Scorpion a good gun?

Good for what? Target shooting?

Sure

General use? Concealed carry? Hunting? Spending your money wisely?

No.

>Thoughts on Kirsten Joy Weiss?

Shes you're typical thot that shills something to thirsty males for profit.

Doesn't mean I wouldn't impregnate her repeatedly.


3d1664 No.562744

>>562656

>-Is .22 a valid caliber for self-defense, concealed carry, etc?

Yes. But you have to pump rounds into whatever you're firing at until it dies.

.22LR is just behind .357Mag when it comes to lethal cases of self defense shooting.

You have to drill to put as many round as quickly as you can into the attacker, which is something the .22LR, grants you the possibility to do.

But it does work.


bf981a No.562748

File: ab521b41cf97444⋯.jpeg (612.43 KB, 1944x1000, 243:125, 12D77070-AA1D-469E-8C50-B….jpeg)

>22 target pistols are neat


4be6a3 No.562859

>>562656

>>562661

>>562685

She's always wearing so much clothes. Why is that?


d6e71c No.562877

>>562661

Now that's a sexy thot. Why don't more women post with guns while wearing less-revealing clothing for attention instead of going over the top and bending over in leggings and shit?


642d32 No.562920

>>562718

She's not just another gun bunny you fag. She shoots better than most if not all of /k/


401fd8 No.562925

>>562920

She is a very good shooter. Turn down an offer from ((the media)) to be on a talent show without her guns seems to be a reasonable person.

She does some attention whore stuff, but nothing too extreme. Yoga pose was the worst and -all things considered- ir was pretty tame.


642d32 No.562931

>>562925

>Yoga pose was the worst and -all things considered- ir was pretty tame.

That was more of a demo of shooting in a far less than idea position. Not cringe at all


d9fb59 No.562934

>>562661

Dude that's a gun for competition shooting, not self-defense.


3c78d9 No.562942

warning, mostly unsubstantiated bullshit incoming

OP, here are the questions you need to ask yourself.

>Can I reliably carry and conceal my choice of firearm?

A firearm you can't comfortably carry is a firearm you're just as likely to leave on the dresser in the morning, and a firearm you don't have on your person doesn't do you any good.

>Can my choice of ammunition, shot out of my choice of firearm, reliably penetrate twelve inches of ballistic gel?

If it can penetrate twelve inches of ballistic gel, then that means it has enough power to pass through whatever combination of bone, muscle, skin, fat, and organs that it could possibly encounter, and still be able to reach the vital organs.

>Can I, using my choice of ammunition and firearm, shoot quickly and accurately under stress?

The rule of thumb is 'drawing from concealment, put five rounds in a five inch circle from five yards in five seconds'. And if you're not training under a timer, you're not training.

>Can I, with my choice of ammunition, afford to practice regularly?

Carrying a gun you don't know how to use doesn't make you armed any more so than owning a guitar you don't know how to play makes you a musician.

Generally speaking, you want to carry the biggest gun in the most powerful cartridge you can still reliably carry, shoot, and train with. If that happens to be a .380 or .22 pocket pistol, you can still reliably defend yourself with it, but given that it will be your life on the line should you ever need to use it, do you really want to have to make do with less?




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