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There's no discharge in the war!

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931e6f No.555092

5f5e43 No.555094

>70 grand for an SPG

>not the same price for a T-55

>or 40k for a BMP-1

>or 17k for a BTR-60

>or 10k for a OT-64

>or 7k for a BRDM-2

http://www.mortarinvestments.eu/#currency=USD


f0da75 No.555108

>not buying an attack helicopter instead

https://www.warhistoryonline.com/military-vehicle-news/for-sale-6-mi-24-soviet-attack-helicopter.html

That's 6 helos for 4 million total, $666.666 each.


bc2ca2 No.555110

>>555092

That's pretty damned expensive. You can get that for a fraction of the price if you are willing to import.

>>555094

You missed out when T-72's were being sold for less than $50k each.


d6e071 No.555113

>>555094

>Wheeled carriers can be registered as veteran cars

On a scale of 99 to 100, how likely would I be to get pulled over constantly if I drove around in a BTR?


f0da75 No.555149

>>555113

You can't pull over a BRT.


ae53b3 No.555153

>>555094

>BRDM-2

It has a 50km range in water, that's pretty good. Could use it to go to manhattan and back without bridge traffic.


2a7e85 No.555176

Yeah, but what am I going to do with partial ownership of a SPG? We'd have to set up a fucking timeshare system to figure out who gets to play with it and when.


f0da75 No.555182

>>555176

No, you got it all wrong. Whoever gets in (((first))) has a fucking SPG. The others can fuck off. Thanks for your contribution.


1a51be No.555199

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

Buy this buick or buy a ship that can take us to our mother base


f0da75 No.555466

>not buying a narco sub in a police auction

>not stealing a WWII diesel sub

>not operatan on container vessels

>not taking whatever you want/need out of the containers

>not refueling by drilling holes into tankers at night

>not anchoring in some African shithole to sell booty and buy rare guns

>not transporting the guns to noguns countries and selling them for a profit

>mounting 155mm smoothbore artillery on the sub

>not shooting starshells over settlements and making everyone freak out/lose sleep

>not listening in to the chaos you caused on the radio

>not using hollowed out torps to get stalkers onboard of other vessels

/k/riegsmarine needs a proper author to take care of it.


094983 No.555467

>>555199

Or a ship that can be our motherbase


d70ea1 No.555542


d70ea1 No.555579

Also isn't 69 k not that much? I'd think that anyone on this board without a family should be able to pay for one within 2-3 years.


e1b046 No.555582

>>555466

Narco subs get broken up iirc.

>tfw /k/arrier is a dead dream

>>555579

I could pay for it with 2/3's my yearly pay. The problem is I am not wasting my time with costly ammo. Give me something that plunks 30-55mm and I'll gladly give time milling brass out for it.


d70ea1 No.555583

>>555582

If anons really worked together we might be able to fund a motherbase but most of the money would go towards equipement and transport. How many acres would a /k/ island have to have if we had say 50 guys? 20-30? 100? I'm not familliar with acres.


e1b046 No.555615

>>555583

How don't you know what an acre is. One acre used to be standard for most housing, so say five guys a house on an acre plot. 50 acres dedicated to housing, that would leave 60 acres for whatever, could potentially have 250 people on that island comfortably


d70ea1 No.555667

>>555615

never learned imperial, but long island actually being feasible sounds pretty cool, only 184 k usd, secluded yet not that secluded with easy access to the pacific ocean. Might not be large enough for tanks but could have boats, helicopters and artillery and could act as a supply depot for the Canadian civil war.


e1b046 No.555673

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>>555667

Most of your country is done in imperial including real estate. I am honestly baffled at how you don't know imperial.


d70ea1 No.555678

>>555673

I'm just a metric kind of guy, not much into real estate either and I never found it to be beneficial while metric can easily be swapped over when doing physics calculations.


24cbb8 No.555707

>>555583

Back on subject, how many acres per person would be needed on /k/ island?


e1b046 No.555717

>>555707

1 per 5 folk if we're taking the old acre lot for a family standard.


d70ea1 No.555742

>>555717

you would also have to take into account shit like bunkers, helipads, docks, maybe leaving the outside of the island untouched outside of said docks to disguise the base, and all sorts of shit like radio, underground storage, greenhouse, etc. It would be great if we had as much space as possible but star island would probably be too big, too much effort to clear out and worst in ontario. It would be a great fantasy motherbase if we just got a billionaire with jets and stuff since 1000 acres is more than enough for runways and all sorts of cool shit like tanks exercises and long range artillery tests. Tortuga would also be really tough but instead due to A: The less corrupt governement but the drug lords behind them B: The crazy climate and C: The fucking wildlife people that are going to see us going over there as an easy target to paint us as a rogue, evil, facist, pmc group.

Hobson looks too isolated and a real fuck fest with the weather and animals.

I could probably buy long island though so It might not be the best choice in the long run.


24cbb8 No.555784

>>555717

Lets assume Long Island.

>bunkers

Bunkers can be built under the above ground dwellings, and long island is high enough that we don't have to worry about the water table. I would wager that any /k/ island resident with a shelter more permanent than a shed is going to have a bunker.

>helipads

The actual concrete helipad itself doesn't need to be very large at all, 1.5 times the length of the helicopter is what the FAA recommends. We would probably want to extend the "don't build here" zone a bit further for safety. Something like half an acre to an acre should be enough for pretty much anything we need.

>docks

I don't really see this being much of a problem. People aren't going to be building dwellings on the shore anyway.

>maybe leaving the outside of the island untouched outside of said docks to disguise the base

I don't know how viable that is with 92 acres. Prohibiting development 100 meters away from the 1.5 mile shoreline removes somewhere between 60 and 46 acres from development.

>radio

This would be build into headquarters.

>underground storage

Underground storage could be placed under other structures, unless I'm missing something. Naturally you aren't going to build a bunker under farmland, but we don't have land area to spare for large scale agriculture anyway.

>greenhouse

Now the question is, how big would we want the greenhouse to be, and how would a community greenhouse be managed on /k/ island? I'm assuming after it was constructed a handful of people would maintain and repair it in exchange for the people using the greenhouse paying rent.

There's also the question of hydroponics and aeroponics and how to manage/build that.


e1b046 No.555813

>>555742

Weather up that way ain't too bad considering I'm way north of it. Its just south enough you probably wouldn't have that many problem with Indians.

>>555784

In regards to the Greenhouse that could be both done above and below ground, also could have a bunkhouse instead of traditional housing which does save a fuckton of space as well.


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>>555784

I made a couple of images to show the scale of the island and how much we would actually have to work with. Now that I looked into it its a very undeveloped, secluded and unknown place with most google searchs going to long island new york. The locals also seem to be the secluded bunch and with the mainland being so close it might be best to either A: Get really friendly with the people there and hope they are good people B: Keep up the charade of just a bunch of weird people having loud parties and shooting guns all the time on the other side of the island or C: Go right out in the open and hope Trudeau doesn't notice as even if he won't do shit you know damn well the CIA or FBI or some fucking orgonization is going to fuck it.

I think the underneath the dwellings is a pretty good idea but I think that would be better for SHTF/undergroud storage bunker rather than a Hezbollah/empire of Japan bunker with missiles and mgs in worst case scenarios.

The worst thing that would happen to helicopters will be A: limited fuel/parts (though there is still some parts in Canada they are damn expensive) B: The weather which might be too cold for anything other than russian made.

I'm not sure if there is land on just the mainland side or the opposite one and if its the former our dock would have to be very secretive or get REAL friendly with the neighbours.

At best we would only need heavy foliage to hide the mainland side as I doubt a passing fisher boat is going to look closely at the 12th unamed island he comes across while that kid with his telescope for his 12th birthday in the middle of nowhere is not going to have much to look at.

>Greenhouse, hydroponics, aeroponics

Yeah this is the kind of stuff I'm not the best at, there is a ton of stuff online about prepper tier agriculture and such but not on a motherbase level, I think It will be stuff like this that will be the real hurdles once we get there, learning stuff other than how to shoot to actually live and produce things on the island to make enough food, water and money to get more guns and ammo. I remember a thread on /pol/ that was pretty interesting in regards to agriculture but it got quickly buried under the shit threads. Might be a good idea to check into it or look around for a greenhouse-anon since I damn well know there has to be one.


d70ea1 No.555822

>>555813

Really? I'm really south but thought that might be too cold. If it wasn't that cold then It wouldn't be that bad aside from how isolated from the coast it is. The is a rumor that cars can go on the ice during winter but even if it isn't true, it would be nice to have a few cars hidden about in case the only way of the island, the Helicopter/s, broke down/got shot down. Even then it would a mess if we got into a fight during winter and things would stay more or less in canada as having

>>555466

Adventures would be very difficult.

>>555813

Any experience with greenhouses or bunkbeds?


e1b046 No.555841

>>555822

Had one that was maybe a 1/5th of an acre set up one year and winter absolutely fucked it but when it was up I was able to get a bunch of stuff I normally can't grow in the ground here. They're finicky things to set up because you've got to have an easy way to rotate soil every year and you've got to have a way to keep it warm if you're using in the winter.

>Bunkbeds

They're fucking horrible unless you can get proper mattresses on em.


24cbb8 No.555845

I actually have another idea. Purchase a large amount of land outside the jurisdiction of any town or city, then sell the outer ring of several acres of that land to another /k/omrad at a steep discount. "Oh, I'm sorry officer that you can't get to the inner area were all the activity is because this isn't a public road and you don't have a warrant to get onto my property."

Then we have enough land for farming and ranching and we have a buffer.

I would like to hear reasons why an island would be practically better than this, even if it's aesthetically cooler.

>>555820

So I take it we wouldn't be the tightest adherents to Canadian gun law.

>Keep up the charade of just a bunch of weird people having loud parties and shooting guns all the time on the other side of the island

There's always the possibility of an underground or indoor shooting range, though that's much more expensive than just making three mounds of dirt.

If our goal is to get friendly with the locals then it would be best to scout out the town before we start development. We can't hide it entirely, a construction project on this scale won't go unnoticed. Our best bet is to come up with a good alibi. If we're really doing this we're going to need civil engineers, architects, contractors, lawyers, and all that.


064d3a No.555849

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>>555845

>I would like to hear reasons why an island would be practically better than this, even if it's aesthetically cooler.

Because that police officer doesn't give a rat's ass about the law and will arrest the /k/omrade holding him off as well as all of you in the process. If you've ever had to deal with the pigs cops in person, you'd understand that they don't give a shit about the law unless they think fucking up will cost them their pensions- and they'll damn well destroy evidence like video footage if they think it will lead to that scenario in court.

An island isn't much better in these regards, but the police tend to be lazy enough that a strip of water will stop them for a couple months or years (long enough to realize what's going on anyways).


24cbb8 No.555856

>>555849

The land ring is mostly a way to prevent abuse of exigent circumstances. Water can't do that, though I'm unfamiliar with Canadian law on searches I would anticipate they have something similar. Being far away from any city which gives lower land prices also means that lazy cops wont want to make the hours long drive up to the ranch.

Also we wouldn't be doing anything illegal during construction. We would get the required permits and build things up to code. We wouldn't be doing anything illegal after construction either, Mr. FBI agent reading this.

>>555850

We aren't a university, we would give the camera footage to your lawyer if that happened.


e1b046 No.555857

>>555849

If you're in northern leafland there really isn't a cheka presence given everyone hates them and will make them go missing innawoods. Nobody will find you or go look for you if you go missing in those woods period.

>>555856

Nobody is going to check on what you're building in the woods, hell you might be the last point of civilization. My house used to have knob and tube wiring in the walls for electrical my powerhouse is still like that because I'm not fucking with something that was set up years ago.


222ea0 No.555858

>BTR-60s are $16,700

>MT-LB also $16,700

>OT-64 are $9,400

>BRDM-2 are $6,600

Could have a decent size fleet of Soviet APC/IFV for under $100,000.


d70ea1 No.555861

>>555845

Coming up with a ridiculous enough to be true alibi that is still boring enough to be let be isn't that hard, you could just come up with some guy in the group being a rich shit head that got a group of random people toghther to relive an olden aesthetic or some shit like that. This is the time when a trans can fill a container with piss and call it art I'm sure we can come up with something to fool the locals, but its keeping it up that is going to be the problem. Also the real money is going to have to go into developement which has to come either from A: Locals B: relatives/close friends to anons or C: off the grid people. Nowadays everyone is connected and even one goofy story about a wannabe militia group by a rich guy that isn't in the inner circle goes around and we are going to be up in our balls in shit.

>>555849

Its not just stopping cops but having a very good access point to international waters, having a lot of escape routes from the country and having the ability to use boats/helicopters/tanks internationally with a home to go to.

>>555858

That whole fleet doesn't mean shit of you have no where to park, nowhere to repair refuel and no manner to transport accross countries.

>>555856

Maybe purchasing land somewhere might be a good idea but It would go from a motherbase to the base or the ranch. Not a bad idea but then again the cops don't always take kindly to militia's even if it means breaking the law to kill them.

>>555857

That is another advantage of Hobson I didn't think of, maybe showing the cops some sks target practice if they get too balsy might be a good idea. Not something to call the calvalry over like a fleet of apcs but not something you want to fuck with this far north.


d70ea1 No.555862

>>555861

Also sorry for shit grammar but I'm falling asleep by the second here.


222ea0 No.555865


24cbb8 No.555866

>>555861

Yeah, we should establish the motherbase before we worry about starting a ranch or extending to other locations.


e1b046 No.555875

>>555861

I don't think you understand when I say no police. They simply don't exist outside of larger towns if they have a detachment. If you're 100 miles from a town congratulations you could start your own country if you so wanted to or war against that which lurks deeper innawoods, that of which is an inevitability considering if you're somehow managing out there it means you've got something worthwhile.


bc2ca2 No.555912

>>555858

You know if we got them two years ago we could have had an entire platoon of T-72's for that price.


36abae No.555953

>>555153

>It has a 50km range in water

Stopping at Diomede to refuel, you could cross the Bering Strait and drive the motherfucker home.

One day Streloks, one day.


bc2ca2 No.555976

>>555953

>Inb4 weekly shopping trips to Russia to import Vodka and AK's to US


1a51be No.555977

>>555976

>not visiting your russian wife's son


315dbf No.555988

>>555865

>accommodation barge

how was I not aware

>>555977

>not kidnapping Mongolian wives


1a51be No.555994

>>555988

>Not making regular trips to iceland for the best waifus in the world who look like Elsa


21cadd No.556029

>>555976

>drive BRDM on to russian coast

>exit vehicle to greet incoming officials

>get detained, have all arms and BRDM confiscated

>get deported to home country with nothing but the clothes on your back

See your BRDM go up for auction on the same site you bought it from


149188 No.556087

>>556029

And so, the brave Anon 21cadd saved /k/ from the mistaken belief that they could swim an armored vehicle across the Bering Strait into the sovereign nation of Russia for the purpose of purchasing firearms. Generations of Anons would forever remember the day that 21cadd the Sage brought to light the hidden truth that said action was probably illegal.




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