a923b0 No.554161
Why is FAL such an incredible rifle?
I shot it today for the first time in my life. Before that I was shooting Mosin, AK, Winchester 1873, but at 25m as a beginner shooter I missed most shots. Only got to send like 5 out of 20 total hitting the human sized target where I aimed.
But when I took picrelated in my hands, I knew I was in love. It is not too heavy, not too light, just the right weight. Very satisfying iron sights that were easy to use even with large ear protection which was fucking with my aim for other rifles. From 5 shots I made, all 5 hit the target, exactly where I aimed, one headshot in the nose, and 4 body shots (it is expensive to shoot in my country, so I can't really go full auto, I have family to feed). And it just looks beautiful. It's long and elegant, and also means business, when someone carries this shit, he does not fuck around.
I'll probably go back to the range and shoot it again despite it costing me 2 bucks per shot + admission fee. I envy you burgers for having a possibility to OWN a rifle like this.
I'm a very occasional visitor, so I don't know /k/'s sentiment towards FAL. >inb4 Rhodesian bush war <3 Do you like FAL as well?
293fb0 No.554165
Fired a FAL as well, they are really fucking nice rifles. Quite arguably the best of the 7.62x51 rifles. They really are a weapon that you don't realise how good they actually are until you have one in your hands. There is potential for them to become even better.
a923b0 No.554175
>>554165
>7.62x51
I'm pretty sure I fired .308 Winchester out of it.
No idea if that is any different.
Wiki says they might be interchangeable.
293fb0 No.554179
>>554175
Only an issue for faggotry rifles that don't work :^)
2f7df7 No.554181
ded8cf No.554185
>>554161
the characteristics of the tilting block and the weight of the gun make it so non intermediate cartridges are pleasant to shoot.
The FAL is plainly a better rifle than the G3 and M14 (yeah yeah I know the psg-1 shoots tighter groups).
767629 No.554203
>>554161
See if you can find a FN-49 they're just as pleasant to shoot with that old world look to em.
>>554179
It is a bit of concern if you've decided to fire something like a 174gr .308 through a gun chambered for 7.62NATO.
5fe167 No.554214
>>554165
If only it was rotating bolt instead of tilting, then it'd be even more accurate
ded8cf No.554225
>>554214
tilting bolt rifles aren't inherently any less accurate than rotating bolt rifles. It's just that there are not any existing tilting bolt platforms that have seen the level of development in the recent generation as have rotating bolt platforms.
tilting bolts can be made to give more consistent lock up (more locking surface area) and be much more durable. The problem is that it is far far easier to cost cut on rotating bolt platforms and that parts interchangeability is easier because you don't have the special sauce of the locking shoulder and locking surface having to mate just right and continue to do so with wear.
The difficulty the FAL has with doing any better than 1.5 moa in good builds has more to do with the stress placed upon the barrel.
If you want a rotating bolt FN rifle you can get a SCAR.
Tl;dr the tilting bolt is kind of like a really good cowboy boot: It will fit perfectly with fewer locking surfaces (doesn't have to be laced) and for longer, provided it is well designed, constructed from good materials, and cut properly.
85020e No.554349
>TFW C1A1 variant of FAL was our service rifle but now it's prohibited because scary military rifle and i can't own one now
Just end me
632523 No.554350
How's the FAL perform with .308 soft point loads? I'd like a battle rifle I can hunt with too. Who's the go-to for an FAL now, still DSA? It's been years since I've looked.
>>554175
.308 is usually hotter and can have much heavier bullets, but otherwise they'll both chamber in the same rifle.
767629 No.554351
>>554349
Just break onto an army base. They're mothballed.
411d67 No.554352
>>554342
fuck both these faggots
6fb9f9 No.554353
>>554349
It's the exact same bullshit here with the L1A1.
ded8cf No.554371
>>554350
>How's the FAL perform with .308 soft point loads?
sorry I don't know
>>554350
>Who's the go-to for an FAL now, still DSA? It's been years since I've looked.
DSA sucks ass. Quality has hugely slipped and plenty of their guns wind up needing to be reworked by custom shops and leave customers subject to DSA shit customer service. DSA also switched from Forged receivers to Cast receivers and lied to their customers about it. DSA28388 was the last receiver to be forged, every higher number and DS (no a) prefixed serial numbers are cast with some exceptions (see: http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=386904).
Coonan receivers were okay (despite being cast, and having some aesthetic issues) for a while but now builders are shying away from those.
Honestly pretty much every 922r compliant receiver is trash and you ought to look here: https://www.arizonaresponsesystems.com/notes/notes.html where the most well respected FAL builder reviews various receivers (scroll down page).
You really should look for something made by an established builder on an serious import receiver (most commonly on an IMBEL receiver, which despite the brazil ape memes is extremely quality) or a pre 922r FAL.
632523 No.554406
>>554371
So it's basically the same it was two years ago when I decided to stick with the PTR/HK91 platform. That sucks.
5fe167 No.554417
>>554342
>"MUH APARTHEID"
Rhodesia didn't even fucking have apartheid, based Ian McCommie lying to himself to he can justify fucking over Rhodesia
aeb96e No.554419
>>554161
I still can't find a source for these videos
1660a2 No.554423
>>554417
Too many people are so fucking stupid and put Rhodesia/South Africa in the same bucket because they were both white african nations.
And normies don't want to actually do research on anything that's bad, because it may make them look bad.
c5eb41 No.554425
>>554423
well they are in the same bucket now, SA is chimpering about dispossessing SA farmers.
1660a2 No.554432
>>554425
Yeah, but nobody with any power outside of SA will do anything about it.
They don't care.
7493e2 No.554446
Every gun is 150% sexier with wooden furniture.
a39c9f No.554468
>>554406
>switching to cast anything
Ugh, glad I got a PTR…
62995e No.554505
>>554425
From what I hear, now that the military has deposed mugabe they want the white farmers to come back because they realized just how bad they fucked up by letting nog commies run the country.
I'm not rushing to buy a plane ticket for obvious reasons, though.
ded8cf No.554528
>>554468
the worst part is there are fucktons of fanboys circlejerking with every permutation of "cast is better with modern technology"
>>554505
Emmerson Mnangagwa only said that for white people to eat up. His speeches in shona are still against the white man, and they now officially oppose the white man getting land back.
5fe167 No.554530
>>554446
Unironically, the SLR is the one gun I prefer the look of when it has plastic furniture, something about that pebblegrain, unf
FALs on the other hand have shitty normal black plastic, they look better with wood
e385e0 No.554740
>>554371
>>554528
>Getting to play pick and choose through a pile of crap to find half decent parts
>Getting to hope that the parts are still made of decent quality and not cut corner bullshit
>More likely than not getting fucked sideways, either from overpriced parts, shoddy quality, or the incredibly loving combination of the two
Life is truly suffering
767629 No.554748
>>554740
Man you would have loved the day when StG 58 part kits were floating around everywhere.
cca8d5 No.554756
>>554161
>at 25m as a beginner shooter I missed most shots. Only got to send like 5 out of 20 total hitting the human sized target where I aimed.
What the fuck?
7493e2 No.554777
>>554530
>>554530
>He prefers plastic furniture over wood or steel.
a923b0 No.554789
>>554756
>first time shooter
>first time shooting every firearm I tried
>never used iron sights
>is this shit even calibrated
>fucking mufflers don't let me aim properly
>only have 5 shots (poorfag) with every firearm, 10 with AK
>fug it just send all bullets down the range
>bring target to the front
>5/20
>what is even this shit
With FAL:
>shot some stuff before (literally 5 minutes, but still)
>wew, mucho comfortado in hands than Mosin or even AK
>them hole iron signts, don't have to align bars or what the fuck
>sights are also big, so mufflers don't fuck me up
>lies comfortably in hand, stock fixed on shoulder
>weight is balanced well for my noodle arms
>shoot one to the head
>wew, I like it
>carefully, to enjoy it the most, send 4 more shots to the body
>I came a little
>bring target to the front
>5/5 and also in the general area I was aiming at
>mfw
26e420 No.554812
>>554371
I'll vouch for the FALFiles as being great for purchasing well-built rifles at a decent price, but the guy who runs Arizona Response Systems is kind of a whiny asshole.
5fe167 No.554815
>>554777
>steel furniture
>wanting to be burnt/frozen
Not hanks lad
7493e2 No.554818
>>554815
>not wearing gloves
Do you even operate?
4627cc No.555028
>>554818
>he wears his gloves to sleep
7493e2 No.555079
>>555028
>He isn't ready for combat 24/7
e385e0 No.564359
>>554812
Even with him being a whiny asshole, is his info still decent? I'm honestly looking to either snag a FAL or build one soonish, and wouldn't mind having a decent source to do so, especially with what >>554371 was saying.
044841 No.564380
>>554419
Kafkanishian
on (((youtube)))
Maybe you can find out more through your knowledge of Japanese.
044841 No.564392
>>564380
>>554419
PCBC-50401
Can you do something with this code, Samurai?
afaa43 No.568592
I am going to put an acr stock on my fal
afaa43 No.568594
>>554371
DS are forged and made by LMT.
All G1 /R1 / l1A1 receivers are forged and were made by Lmt as are the DS prefix receivers.
be2e42 No.568597
>>564363
Is that your SLR, anon?
3c94e2 No.568617
>>568592
You won't regret it.
44c833 No.568736
>>554349
Why couldn't a guy just modify the FAL platform to accept say a AR styled rotating bolt for 7.62 and wham, call it the RAL.
bebc8b No.568769
How well would a FN Fal function compared in 7.92x41mm CETME Cartridge, and burst mode with how heavy the rifle is?
3c94e2 No.568783
>>568736
Sounds like the Modern Hunter/Varmint
ef034e No.569428
TIL: there exist 80% FAL receivers. Granted, all the references to them I could find, indicate they're the most unreasonably difficult to mill successfully, with a plethora of high-dollar equipment needed to machine them to completion … and who here has seen a complete parts kit?
But it could be done.
3c94e2 No.569431
>>569428
There ages ago used to be tons of complete FAL kits that floated around, the last of which were old Austrian StG 58 ones. You don't really need a bunch of high dollar equipment to build them, you've just gotta build jigs that can cut said blank properly and with constancy. For a one off thing yeah its kind of pricey and fucking time consuming, like 60-100 hr project.
03abdc No.569497
>>554175
Here easy guideline, because every article is retarded and uses 5000 words to describe a simple fact.
5.56 is hotter than .223
.308 is hotter than 7.62
03abdc No.569499
>>554419
>>564392
It is called ‘Guns of the world’ and comes in 3 parts.
44c833 No.569936
>>568783
Doesn't look like a FAL, looks like another AR-18 derivative.
3c94e2 No.569946
>>569936
Looks like an AR-18, charging handle is non reciprocating like a FAL, even folds up like one too.
44c833 No.572963
I had a dream that I fired a FAL at the range. It was smooth and accurate. Then I woke up and I was Canadian.
663252 No.572964
>>569497
7.62 has thicker brass and physically cannot be loaded to the pressures of .308 Win, and a 7.62 chamber has slightly more clearance to provide the brass some "give". .308 Win is more likely to have a case head separation, but it will not blow up the action.
Same case with 5.56 and .223, but the pressures involved there can actually be destructive in such a tiny gun.
8e9cdf No.572979
Where can one buy a FAL for a reasonable price?
2aaa1c No.573015
>>554161
Best 7.62mm battle rifle EVER produced. Carried one for 6 years - never let me down, not once. If I had to go back, I'd take a7.62 FN over any other weapon. When it hits a 'target', that target is not fighting in that fight again.
8a963c No.573021
Can you get a FAL in the US without paying over 800 USD?
62c3c1 No.573375
>>573021
Seconding this question with any other FAL-like or anything semi-auto in 7.62 NATO
b0420a No.573380
>>573021
>>573375
i regularly browse yankee gunsites pawing at the screen crying, and from what ive seen the answer is no unless you can find a guy who can cut you a good as deal. The issue is that from what i can see the prebuilt market is all new production of a relatively niche battlerifle for us markets and the self assembly types all go for very gucci near collector grade parts quality. Combine with that the fact that the FALs production cost was one of its main disadvantages i think you're unlikely to find one for 800. bet you can find a used DSA voyager for cheap, but from what ive read those have the worst QA of all DS products. Take everything written with a pinch of salt though.
75efc9 No.576565
59e8f0 No.576577
>>576565
>the site where adding a bunch of crapco bullshit makes your mosin worth $1k
>reasonable price
90b6c4 No.576612
Reminder that G3 Soyboys can't admit the FAL is the superior raifu as well as forgetting the only G3 that anyone likes is the HK33, i.e. the 5.56 model.
d62f40 No.577159
Would it technically be possible to make your own FAL? Would it be legal? I don't see anything illegal with making one.
b47ba3 No.577160
>>576612
We replaced the FAL with G3A3s because the G3 is the superior rifle. HK33 is trash by the way
fed082 No.577167
>>577160
>because the G3 is the superior rifle
>because the G3 is the cheaper rifle
Fixed
Also you had a bunch of arms deals with Germany anyway based mostly on politics rather than effectiveness
9320f8 No.577170
>>577159
There's still parts kits floating around and a few companies that make stripped and 80% receivers for them.
So yes, it's technically possible.
b47ba3 No.577203
>>577167
>G3
>Cheaper
What did he mean by this
8cdf24 No.577227
I don't have the tools to build, so which FALs are good to buy? Or just hope to get lucky on what might be a nice rifle on gunbroker?
d62f40 No.577301
>>577170
No, I mean getting the blueprints for it, and making it piece by piece.
3a8287 No.577307
>>577301
That is going to take you down a path of making jigs, somehow getting a receiver made that isn't cast. Over all you'll be spending more money on the shit to make it than what the gun can be bought for on the market.
>>577227
Older DSA's and huehue Imbels tend to be alright.
8cdf24 No.577330
>>577307
As much as the rifles tend to cost, its hard to justify going for an "Alright" fal when I can buy a Saiga made 74 for the same price.
f16dd2 No.577417
>>577160
I thought you got the G3 cause the Roaches had the G3?
093638 No.577420
>>577203
>G3
>not cheaper to manufacture than the FAL
b47ba3 No.577436
>>577417
Cheaper, sturdier, somewhat more accurate and reliable. The roaches are retarded and want to replace one of the greatest rifles for long range and mountainous combat with some kind of shitty nu-futuristic looking M4 clone.
The only weapon I would ever replace the G3 with is the AK-109 just so we arm untrained conscripts with a rifle that fires a powerful cartridge but has close to no recoil.
e64301 No.577462
>>577167
The G3 is easier to field strip and clean, handles mud and dirt better, and is in roughly the same price range as the FAL.
c9cf82 No.577552
Just putting this out there, the Rhodesians and South Africans should've made it out to be an issue of capitalism versus communism, they may have been able to keep their White minority rule…
ac06b8 No.577609
>>572963
>>554349
I feel your pain, fellow Canucks. What is it about the FAL that's just so goddamn desirable?
75efc9 No.577638
I just sold my FAL to pay for a Galil Ace in 7.62x51
1629$ at Atlantic firearms
55b127 No.577670
>>577552
>Implying they didn't
>Implying that's not why things went to shit for them
If Burgers were truly serious about fighting Commies they wouldn't have backed the Viet Cong against the French.
b47ba3 No.577677
>>577638
>Selling a FAL to buy Jewish garbage
4ae4ed No.577678
>>577638
>I just sold my FAL to pay for a Galil Ace in 7.62x51
Anon…………..why
8cdf24 No.577679
>>577638
OOooy! Dats my goy! Buy anuddah! Only raycist bad goy like the FAL!
093638 No.577682
>>577638
Tbh, everyone here is reeeing because "da jooz", but I'm unironically interested in this.
>.308
>rotating bolt
>AK action
>SR-25 mags instead of the previous galil-specific mags
The Zastava M77 also looks kino, but they're all imported as slant cuts, so you have to re-weld them and get a new rear trunnion and furniture if you want the military configuration.
The SIG SG 751 looked great too, same benefits as the galil but not Jewish and probably more accurate, but only a handful of them were imported by JDI and they were $4000+ each.
d8518f No.577699
>>577682
You do know that SIG is jewed as well. Right?
093638 No.577704
>>577699
No, SIG (((USA))) is, the actual Swiss SIG/Swiss Arms company is fine. The 751 was built in Switzerland by Swiss Arms and imported by JDI, it wasn't the shit-tier """SIG""" crap built by spics in estados unidos.
75efc9 No.577884
>>577682
>>577678
1500$ less than a SCAR 17
Left side charging handle
More reliable than a FAL
Takes SR-25 mag of which I own about 30 for my LMT
f2b4bd No.577915
>>577884
>More reliable than a FAL
The jewpig lies as soon as it opens it's snout.
69dca1 No.577933
>>577884
I agree with the rest but
>more reliable than a fal
Based on what?
b47ba3 No.577939
>>577884
And yet it still is Jewish garbage that can't even compete with 60 year old battle rifles.
>More reliable than a FAL
Please start eating more salads. Having double-sized burgers for breakfast, lunch and dinner are bad for your brain's health and it clearly shows.
8ced19 No.577941
>>577638
>I just sold my FAL to pay for a Galil Ace in 7.62x51
You deserve to be nailed to a cross. Are you a boomer by any chance?
71880a No.577956
>>577939
> implying double-sized burgers for breakfast would be an issue if they were made of 100% American ranch-fed beef instead of beanerstan soy beans
Check your T-levels, aderfe, and go kill a pitogyro or something.
12ddea No.577963
>>577638
>i just sold rhodesia down the drain to please the jews
Truly, history repeats itself.
de3487 No.577986
>>573375
I got my PTR 91 GI for $799 plus tax
69dca1 No.577999
>>577963
But Rhodesia and South Africa were pretty strongly allied with Israel, they were the only nation to help them out
75efc9 No.578022
>>577933
>
>
>>>577552
Jewish lies, FALs run really shitty if you dont lube it well and its not that great in sand or mud when you take it to the field. The gas port can get plugged fairly easily, that's not to say you shouldnt do basic field maintenance but ill stick with my LMT MWS, Galil Ace and at some point in the future a Scar 17 if I can get one for 2500$
75efc9 No.578046
>>577678
>>577677
>>577679
>>577939
>>577941
>>577963
I own an Israeli FAL, so no whites will be harmed in the transfer of this weapon on gunbroker
69dca1 No.578077
>>578022
>the gas port can get plugged fairly easily
75efc9 No.578104
>>578077
I assume you have never spent a significant amount of time in an austere environment with any rifle.
d8518f No.578181
>>578046
>>578104
Would you fuck off, already, jew?
69d630 No.578454
>>568592
now how can I get a build like that?
706f28 No.578461
>>568592
>SLR charging handle
Good lad, get an SLR extended safety too.
8cdf24 No.578480
>>568592
Fuck me I typically hate tactical aesthetics. but god damn
d196a4 No.578484
>FAL vs G3
The differences between them are marginal and personal but doesn't the G3 chew up brass?
>>577999
>they were the only nation to help them out
d015ac No.578500
>>578454
Buy a Para FAL, ACR stock adapter, after market hand guard and DSA rail mount and there you, i probably do this at some point but its around 2k for all that shit. Thing is the ACR stock is fairly hard to come by and the stock adapter is always sold out.
16ca3d No.578534
>>578484
Not particularly keen on the subject but isn't G3 supposed to be much cheaper and easier to produce while not being considerably worse?
8d0bc4 No.578535
>>578534
FN is more expensive than even HK, especially when the FAL is milled and the G3 is stamped.
e1a4d4 No.578571
>>578484
>marginal and personal
fuck no. The g3 kicks way more and handles differently because it is roller delayed. The G3 does eat brass. don't get me wrong, there are more civilized g3s like psg-1 clones but those are in no way representative of g3s which are like a 3-5 moa gun in practice whereas a fal from a respected builder (without any accurizing deviations from spec) will often be a sub 2.5moa gun with some getting close to 1 moa.
>>578534
yes the g3 is much cheaper to produce and works on a simpler system but it has its own finicky issues and is (barring extra special variants) much less accurate than the FAL.
It doesn't matter for our purposes but the FAL is actually controllable in full auto by virtue of a short throw, rear locking, locking shoulder which produces relatively little kick compared to other operating systems. also the gas system can be adjusted such that it is not overgassed and operating too violently
f16dd2 No.579226
Only homosexuals like the G3. Hence why the Greeks were in a rush to get them.
f2b4bd No.579233
>>578571
the g3 isn't noticeably more inaccurate, and nother can the fal be controlled in full auto, nor does the g3 have significantly more recoil
2c643a No.579240
>>579226
>Only homosexuals like the G3.
And most of the people who like the FAL are LARPers who have never had to walk more than a mile with their rifle.
86feff No.579245
>>579226
Does that make the Spanish gay hipsters since they technically had the G3 before even Germany did in the form of the CETME model 58?
>>579240
I concur with kiwi-anon. The AR-10 Is inarguably the best of the cold war 7.62 NATO rifle designs and that it is a shame it was never adopted by a serious country.
d8518f No.579246
>>579240
>hugging huge dong spring to face while operating
>cannot fold stock for compact operation due to dong spring you love so much
>gun jams from not being immediately cleaned and you die death of homosex
4ae4ed No.579254
I like the G3 and the FN FAL they are both great guns. Atleast they are both better then the FAMAS.
8d0bc4 No.579258
>>579254
but the forgottenweapons guy says FAMAS is good, how is this possible
f473b9 No.579259
>>579258
>Cuckpup
>Good
Pick 1. Additionally,Ian McCuckold is gigantic Francophile
8d0bc4 No.579261
>>579259
Out of the two I'd say Karl is worse, not even considering that his patron-exclusive giveaway violates federal gambling laws.
Sage for off-topic.
ab8e67 No.579279
>>579258
Because Ian is a massive francophile
>>579259
Ian and Karl hate bullpups
33e0c3 No.579284
>>579261
>giveaway violates federal gambling laws.
huh, what if a federal agency learned about it (^:
c740b9 No.579345
>>579284
Surely no one here would have the audacity of letting the feds know about it, depriving these good men of their means of living. That'd be something we'd never even contemplate. ;^)
f2a3f5 No.579621
>>579258
FAMAS are the best service rifle ever made.
It could be better but the basic gun is already a few leagues away from everything else.
The truth is actual gun design peaked in the 60's and has been downhill ever since.
677c51 No.579740
>>564363
Is that allowed???
2d1422 No.579743
>>577986
How are you liking it? Was thinking of picking up one
de3487 No.579776
>>579743
I'm having a lot of fun with it and it helps that the magazines are so cheap $3-5 each The only issues I've had was when I got my pinky cut when some brass hit it and one failure to feed I'm blaming on the magazine. People complain about the ergonomics and the recoil, but the gun fits me well and my surplus Mauser kicks more. I'd also recommend getting the sight adjustment tool which HKparts is selling for $20:
https://www.hkparts.net/shop/pc/HK-Rear-Sight-Tool-For-Diopter-Sights-123p16511.htm