/k/ - Weapons

>>554012

>Sci-fi super insurgents

>Massive support all around the world

>Lead by some kind of hyper-charismatic super genius

>No rules of engagement

Even if the world powers facing off against them were able to advance their own tech, or adapt Nods tech to their own ends, it's not going to end well for anyone other than Nod. Even if it didn't go full war immediately the economic power granted by tiberium (where Nod would have a massive head start) and Nods propensity to subvert other organisations would make them a dominant world player very quickly.

KANE LIVES!

>>554046

>even /k/ knows

Truly a legend of our time. I thought I'd saved the mp4, but I can't find it.

PEACE

THROUGH

POWER

>>554083

I'm pretty sure that if you tried to get Nod off the ground in the modern world you'd either be arrested or 'disappeared' by one or more intelligence agencies, or you'd get subverted pretty swiftly by the same groups.

>>554085

>>554083

Nod is also from an alternative history where Hitler didn't exist and WW2 was a fight between the Allies and Soviets.

>>554088

The only trouble with taking red alert and the tib series as one conjoined timeline is that it was clearly only decided that they could be joined well after red alert. Kane was only really present in the first game as an easter egg in his scenes as the adviser and during the ending. The biggest problem is fitting RA2 into the picture, what is the brotherhood doing during the 70's, why does the brotherhood not have a bunch of yuri tech during the tib series. it's only really in renegade that we start to see references to it being the actually the same universe. sage for my post being too /v/ and not enough /k/, also nice painter dubs.

>>554090

>The /v/ part

Westwood were going to shoehorn RA2 into the Tiberium Universe with Incursion and Renegade 2

>Now for the /k/ part

If Nod were to appear in this universe they would absolute BTFO of the US Military, as everything Nod actually has in it's arsenal seems geared to fight the US. Lots of fast hit and run light vehicles with AT and even AA. Inexpensive and good use of artillery which is something US likes to ignore. Devastating infantry suited for Urban Warfare. Saturating areas with SAM's so the US can't count on air support. Nod are the insurgency from hell. As soon as the US got it's first true bloody nose they'd fuck off back home. Hell most of NATO would do the same as they can't replace any losses they take. The only powers that would ever be able to fight Nod properly would be Russia and China just by giving zero fucks and being willing to throw everything at them.

tl;dr version: Nod would fuck the shit out of everyone as barely anyone would have the balls to fight them and nobody has the money.

>>554091

How does being invisible protect you from WP saturation bombing?

>>554091

i think other than the sophistication that the force has, another big thing here is the particular culture of war that the brotherhood uses. Seth for example was executed for ordering a direct attack on the united states, which is a big separating factor between nod and any of the real world insurgent forces we have. if you look at real life, it's almost ubiquitous for a terror cell or insurgent force to directly attack their main target the moment they're able. nod on the other hand are perfectly content to grow and expand in ares their enemies don't even care to challenge them.

>>554092

being invisible is more than just not knowing where something is in amongst a few kilometers of rural hilltops. if you're sending bombers after a hypothetical brotherhood of nod, which country do you send them to? where do you base these planes that is both safe and in range? how much money are you capable (not willing, capable) of spending to eliminate nod forces in a single country? what kill ratio do you need in order to make all the planes you lose to SAM sites worth it?

>>554092

>Inb4 headlines of GDI kill innocents

>>554095

Nod made it a priority to gain influence in areas where there was a lot of resources. In particular they gained control of South America, Africa and large chunks of Asia. If someone did this in real life, even without Tiberium, they would control the vast majority of the world's natural resources. Nod if they took over Africa alone would become retardedly rich that they could simply outspend anyone if they wanted to.

>>554108

Not to mention all the fodder they could recruit from pisspoor nations.

>>554116

True that. Come to think of it if /k/ took over Africa we would be able to hold the world hostage simply by cutting off shipments of raw materials. Western economies would collapse before we would

>>554118

brotherhood of /k/ never ever…

>>554012

Better than the (((Globalist))) Defence Initiative that's for sure.

>>554119

Brotherhood of /k/ absolutely.

>>554145

As soon as fuckin possible.

Since the GDI and Nod campaigns took place on completely different continents, could they both have been canon? GDI defeats Nod in Europe but they manage to hijack the Ion Cannon for a last strike before going into the shadows.

>>554145

A single Javelin angled upwards in the centerline, plus two racks of hydras on either side would be more effective.

>>554173

ok i chuckled.

>>554120

kane would gas this degenerate

>>554178

Wouldn't we be Digganobz rather than orks there?

>>554192

Not if /k/ommandos find ways to reproduce using spores.

>>554194

>reproducing with spores

That's a little extreme, don't you think? I have it on good authority that there are at least a handful of good, conservative, hasfuns, XX females on /k/. Not nearly enough to go around of course, but as /k/ommandtopia starts to grow wealthier and more powerful I'm sure that the number of wifeable female immigrants fleeing increasingly cucked states would increase.

>>554196

A true Or/k/ would know that there can never be enough dakka. You should simply search for MOAR!!!!, not delude yourself with dreams of enough.

>>554202

>Not having a family

>Allowing the quest for Dakka to end after only a single generation

>You_Zoggin_Wot_M8.jpg

>>554012

not very good, GDI has orbital strikes and a non polluted living zone as opposed to shithood of nod

>>554204

But if we don't have to worry about reproducing and let the spores produce a new generation of Or/k/s then we get to spend more time finding moar dakka while not having to worry about dying out. Think about it.

>>554208

Are you a good enough genetic engineer to actually get /k/ommandos reproducing via spores?

>>554209

How hard can it be?

>>554211

I tell you what, you get working on that, and keep us up to date.

>>554212

>Weaponized Tiberium

>A liquid or gas that is mutagenic, radioactive, and highly toxic

>The only reason it isn't carcinogenic is that it kills you too quickly for the cancer to get started.

Wouldn't you need a number of Serbs in an organisation to even consider using weapons like that?

>>554206

i interpreted the subject of the thread as Nod injected into reality, not GDI vs Nod in the setting, that said GDI ion cannons cant be that good since they aren't perpetually in use in the setting, and blue zones would have substantially lower resources than yellow zones. That said though, i never really like the world building and lore that was done in three and always preferred the scary world of tib sun where even scandinavia and europe were fucked up.

>>554212

is it fucked that Anton Slavik was my childhood idol?

sage because again, mainly a /v/ post on my part.

>>554083

>Honestly something about the Brotherhood awakens a kind of madness in me where i want to see such an entity created just to know if i can. In the C&C lore it's either implied or outright stated that the Brotherhood is as old as any civilization if not older, which explains the organizations massive global reach and resource base.

Just look at Israel.

>>554220

>Water armour

Is that a meme I missed? I'll grant you it would be wonderful to have large groups of /k/ommandos make the lunacy of our design threads into something (vaguely) solid in RL, but wouldn't that also mean that other memes became real too? Fuddlore would become truth. Leftist nonsense everywhere would actually start to gather evidence and data. Gender would not only become a real thing, but it would definitely be a social construct. Is that really the world you want to live in?

>>554224

>water armor

Basically, a Canadian decided that the ultimate form of passive protection for tanks would be armor made from water, as it would allow RPGs and other anti-tank weaponry to "harmlessly" pass through the entire tank.

>>554226

Not particularly, but if you've got a greentext then feel free to drop it.

Brotherhood of /k/ flag and insignia when?

>>554230

It wasn't intended as an insult Serbbro. If nothing else, as you say, Anton Slavik was a man worthy of respect.

>>554228

>All of my lolwut?

>>554236

Word

>>554236

HOTWHEELS LIVES IN DEATH!

>>554239

Dude

>>554240

Man, I miss the little guy. I hope hes doing alright

>>554274

I'd rather use the chassis of an old VW with some beefed up suspension almost like what the Iranians got.

>>554278

Got a reference pic for that?

>>554283

Almost like a compact version of the Desert Patrol Vehicle from GW1 then?

>>554286

Yeah, exactly. Also that thing I posted reminds me of that vehicle Nod had in the first game

>>554288

I've just seen a couple going between $7500 and $20,000 depending on condition.

>>554293

>>554283

Aren't those things almost exclusively built for dunes? bearing in mind that it could be deployed in many different areas, how would it cope with that? im not very /o/ but the SRT-V seems less nice, maybe im wrong?

>>554296

It's basically a tube framed vw that has a reworked motor and drivetrain. It probably works fine everywhere, dont think it has locked diffs or anything that would preclude road use. >>554293

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chenowth_Advanced_Light_Strike_Vehicle

this is the follow up but the first one if you see in the article is the basis for the command and conquer unit

I don't imagine they'd be hard at all to modify from the basic model either. Just need a welder.

>>554218

>Not in constant use

The cool down timer on your orbital strikes in game isn't the charge up or wind down between firings. It's the wait queue because they're in such constant demand between commanders. The network is firing 24/7, at least in one part of the timeline.

>>554296

They'll go everywhere that isn't trees.

>>554290

You can build them for even cheaper if you've got a scrapyard around.

>>554308

Cheap, economical, and we can fit them with any GPMG or launcher system we can get our hands on.

>>554234

>It wasn't intended as an insult Serbbro.

I think you need to fix your humour detector mate.

>>554466

Nice triple-dubs. Besides, he's a Serb, you don't want to piss him off.

>>554487

>prevent

Unless it gets divided on some trivial issue

>9mm vs .45

We'll be fine

>>554434

>black male coated in bulletproof armor dot pee en jee

>>554498

>Not finally wanting the 9mm vs .45 war to go hot

>Not wanting a final, unarguable, definite resolution to that bullshit

>Not wanting to make sure we never have to see those threads ever again

>>554506

Everyone knows 7.62 is the best pistol round.

It has already started, brother

>>554091

>As soon as the US got it's first true bloody nose they'd fuck off back home. Hell most of NATO would do the same as they can't replace any losses they take.

In the Tiberium Universe NATO was more heavily controlled by the Soviets and founded GDI, while Nod used US equipment during the first War.

>>554506

9x19 and .45 ACP will be in a perpetual cold war while .40 short and weak and 10mm '$2.50 a round for ammo with actual powder in the case' try to pretend their still relevant.

>>554533

Have we started the fire, brother?

>>554570

any proper marksman should be able to kill someone with a single shot from a .177 pellet gun tbh

>>554533

As has the pistol caliber power struggle that consumes Nod.

>>554598

and we haven't even started the discussion about whether or not the Avatar is a retarded waste of money or an awesome waste of money.

>>554605

Awesomely retarded?

Would developing and manufacturing a working railgun and buying surplus armor to mount it to be a better use of those funds?

>>554597

>10mm

Funny enough a lot of cut units from Tiberian Dawn had infantry using 10mm

>>554570

5.7 and 4.6 are queer for each other, but they're both too tsundere to do anything about it.

>>554610

>Avatar

>Ridiculously overengineered to make it bipedal

>Comes off the assembly line with a single AT laser and some kind of claw thing.

>Expected to go up against a city-block sized mass of FUCK YOU! and some kind of squirmy alien insect tank thing.

>Regularly seen ripping apart allied Nod units to desperately try to add more firepower to the alleged superheavy vehicle.

I think that the money would be better spent trying to mass produce man portable rotary barrel railguns and issuing them to every man in your armed forces, and then paying for their lifelong medical care and disability benefits.

>>554597

>war crimes

>builds hospital right next to a base

>>554626

At least they aren't tick tanks

>>554630

(((Globalist Defense Initiative)))

>OY VEY THOSE EVIL NOD TERRORISTS ARE BLOWING UP THE CIVILIANS WE ARE USING AS COVER!

>>554638

DOWN WITH GDI!

>>554666

that just made my fuckin day

>>554498

>>554506

>>554511

>>554548

>>554570

>>554581

>>554583

>>554594

>>554597

>>554598

>>554620

>>554621

For the last goddamn time, 9mm is currently the cheap standard, so it just works. However, what the cartridge fires out of is another question.

What sidearm shall they be equipped with?

>>554685

Until you can get big enough to dip the market, you've got to go with the flow. Besides, that means you get to shoot them with their own bullets! LOL

Seriously, though. What's the standard service pistol?

>>554682

>>554685

>>554698

I don't mean to be rude here gents, but the price of 9mm to a large quasi-terrorist organization has little to no bearing on the price of a round on the white market. what do you think we'll be doing? emailing hornady with: "yeah can i get like, 500k rounds of 9mm mailed to sarajevo, don't tell the government, k thx bro."? if you're seriously talking about adopting a standard side arm (waste of money imo) you're looking at establishing your own chains of supply anyway, you will be the market.

Sidearm is whatever you bring to the table. If it doesn’t feed whatever we have stocks of, you’re responsible for sourcing your own ammo or getting a pistol that is compatible with what we have.

>>554701

Except going on the (((black market))) is exactly how your little organisation becomes undone. If you think they're any safer than buying wee boxes from dealers and then shipping them over, then you're dead wrong. Characters like Assad are lucky to possess their own manufactories, and he is especially lucky to have the wreath of Russia around his neck, for such a unique position in their political world.

Besides, everyone stocks up on enough ammo to kill an elephant, alone. Pooling them together seems the obvious solution to creating a standard stockpile.

>>554710

and again, we're talking about a hypothetical force larger than syria. we're not just talking about /k/ with scorpion symbols, if you think you can equip a whole army with a standard sidearm and feed those arms with piecemeal purchases you're crazy. in order to have anything like Brotherhood of Nod levels of force projection you're going to need to nut up and have your own munitions plants. why the fuck do we even need a standard handgun though? they aren't the best tool for Guerrilla infantry, nor for tank crews, even hit men have better choices they can make.

>>554714

Isn't standardising ammo, & to a lesser extent gear, something to leave to regional commanders? It seems like the lowest level you can have that decision without causing (too many) economic or logistical problems. Regional decisions can also avoid top down decisions that don't suit local needs. As The Brotherhood is an organisation larger than NATO, and operating in more specific regions at any one time, I can't see Kane doing more than research and setting very general, top level, objectives and creating a lot of good old fashioned propaganda.

>>554682

>For the last goddamn time, 9mm is currently the cheap standard, so it just works.

But if you're in charge of an economic powerhouse like Nod you can mass produce 10mm and firearms chambered in it anyway.

>>554710

Should Assad be inducted into the Brotherhood?

>>554580

Well, not yet….but I think Brotherhood of /k/ will come up with a plan

>>554786

But Nod weapons upgrade to lasers, including DEW pistols on the special forces girl they use. Nod has moved beyond the calibre debate, and started the wavelength rage threads.

>>554773

That pretty much falls in line with how Nod works. Give out a directive and the commanders execute how they see fit. It would make sense that logistics would likely be handled the same way. If you deem it more efficient to simply capture enemy equipment and burn through their ammo instead of waiting for yours to show up from some depot, so be it.

>>554819

Is Nod ever stated to have rules of engagement (or anything serving the same purpose)? You'd think with the number of militants they're recruiting and throwing into the meat-grinder that they'd be very keen to keep good relations with the red and yellow zone civilians who make up the bulk of their personnel.

>>554845

Just what you implying, GDIDF?

>>554594

Fucking this, a machine pistol with a stock firing 7.62 Tok is the only acceptable theoretical solution without developing entirely new ammunition. But that 7.62 Tok should be steel cased +P+ API.

>>554844

>Nod standard issue

>Links GDI versions of the weapons

Found the traitor!

>>554848

I didn't miss the joke, I openly ignored it because it wasn't even a little bit funny and I thought it would be more interesting to show the actual standard issue rifles that NoD used in the games.

Its not my fault that you are boring.

>>554850

The problem is there are no good pictures of Nod infantry weapons.

>>554857

>What?

pic 1 to 3 don't show the Nod standard issue rifle, so they would have been useless for my post.

pic 4 and 5 are shit and don't fully show a clear image of the gun. just as I have described it.

>Say it ain't so?

Anon having humor and giggling over every stupid shit like a schoolgirl are two different things.

>>554858

No need to become autistic, just because you are butthurt. I never denied that NoD had flamethrower infantry.

>>554847

>Just what you implying, GDIDF?

That it's hard to recruit people after you've firebombed them.

>>554873

>autistic kraut is autistic

>Can't handle anyone having fun

>Is also blind

You are retarded you know that?

>>554878

personally this is why i just ignore C&C3 and its GLA wannabe Nod. it's alot easier to believe that people would be willing to join a Nod with first world or better tier equipment and training than one that's basically jihadists with lasers and red paint. that said, nearly all food is grown in greenhouses by the time of Tib-Sun so i doubt there are many people who harbor too much ill will against a faction with energy and materials.

>>554882

Calm down brothers, save it for GDI

>>554873

>>554873

>Pic 1 not Nod standard issue

Except it is and even stated to be the standard issue of Nod's professional army which has always been hinted at being head and shoulders above GDI's professional army. Militants are irregulars who don't use standardised equipment and instead use looted stuff. Overall your earlier chart of weapons is pretty much wrong. It doesn't even have the Calico :^)

>You're the butthurt one even though I am clearly projecting!

No I am just calling you a cunt for acting like a cunt while stating how wrong you are when it comes to Nod equipment. If you can't handle that you really don't belong here.

>>554883

>Nod in a nutshell

C&C3 era stuff is pretty much a sea of retcons and retardation. Even Tiberian Sun had this problem to an extent. Nod is portrayed as a bunch of towelheads jihading their way using scraps but then you see their actual army and it's one of the best equipped if not best equipped infantry forces out there.

C&C

>Nod infantry supposedly start from using scraps and formed from a mix of irregulars and mercs

<Actually have the best infantry in the game and shown to develop advanced equipment such as Tiberium based weapons as well as lasers

C&C 2

>Nod are seen as a bunch of thugs if not gangsters fighting over scraps who are no more than petty criminals compared to GDI

<Infantry have advanced full body armour, advanced rocket launchers, Cyborgs armed with chainguns and plasma cannons as well as their elite troops being armed with heavy pulse rifles.

C&C 3

>Nod irregulars form cannon fodder backbone of their forces and a lot of their equipment is scavenged from the battlefield with a few elite units leftover from old days

<Whenever the Nod professional army shows up they unleash absolute rape on the equivalent GDI and even elite GDI forces using a mix of chainguns and flamethrowers. Militants can also be upgraded to be lead by a professional as well as not only take drugs to enhance performance but drug enemy troops making them fight amongst themselves.

It's like the whole reason that Nod has supposedly lost the Tiberium Wars is that they haven't been trying to win.

>>554883

>Calm down brothers, save it for GDI

NOD CIVIL WAR NOW!

>>554487

By banning faggot constanlty bitching about "Gayne is a kike tool" and "muh chesscucks".

>>554878

You mean after GDI firebombed them.

>>554899

>>554890

>>554889

>gdi FLAME TANKS did 9/11

>dude tiberium ayy lmao

>yum yum scrin cum

>>554886

It could be worse, remember armies of hundreds of riflemen in Red Alert being torn apart by a handful of Alsatians.

>>554158

Does anyone have real life examples of battle busses in use? The concept greatly intrigues me what with surplused buses being like $3k on gov surplus.

>>554936

>RL battle bus

I think most of the places where they start building technicals are looking more for speed and ability to mount a .50 cal. Carrying a 30 or so riflemen will just take 15 or so Toyotas.

>>554914

And a colt .45 can mow down entire armies with longer range than rifles.

>>554936

>>554939

>Real life Battle Buses

Mexico

Syria

>>554947

>>Real life Battle Buses

>Mexico

>Syria

Pics or it didn't happen.

>>554965

>You new

Wait a second you didn't know about water armour so scratch that

>>554908

>GDI didn't bomb the Grain Trade Center

>>554858

Is that a literal caulk/grease gun?

>>555027

user was granted divination for this post

>>555027

>africans mimicking gunfire.webm

budget cuts hit everyone.

A fucking C&C threads with over 100 posts and only one guy mentions the GLA?

>>555063

We aren't talking about ISIS though?

>>555063

Sandniggers

>>555063

ak47s for everyone

>>555455

how to play gla: waste 90% of your forces when one enemy shoots your carbomb setting off a chain reaction obliterating most of your army and your own base, and still win.

>>555063

The difference is that the GLA is really funny, but NOD manages to be funny and respectable at the same time.

Another thing is that the GLA dosn't work anymore in a world where its obvious that the US intelligence and their (((best ally))) is behind islamic terrorism.

>Being backed by (((Global))) international bankers

>Ancient cult started in the middle east

>The (((chosen people))) of nod

>Willing to fake mass civilian attacks to force the world to turn on a super power

No no thanks I know where my loyalty is and its not with the (((Kanites))).

>>556182

>that map

>the realization that you’re in a red zone.

Fuck me.

>>556182

I'm in a blue zone but do to this board saying I'm a fucking lead ohh well. Though if I was in a yellow zone, hunting tiberium wildlife could be a thrill to do for the short time before dying to a fiend.

GDI dose not give a fucking if you use a old generation base to form a militia if your in the yellow zone, it's less work for them to deal with. While nod flips out thinking you will find ol' tricked and secrets they hid.

>>556224

That one puts me in a yellow zone. Hail Kane!

>>556224 Is that a map of the C&C 4, it seems a little off. A chunk of Cali is now red while on the blue only, it's blue.

>>556233

Actually misread. It looks like an error in the last image, if you combine all the invidiual zone maps together it's accurate.

>>556233

I was using the map from C&C:4. It may have been a shitty game, but it is the most up to date data.

>>556240

>map from

Can't use something from a game that doesn't exist :^)

>>556251

> never happened

What did he meme by this?

>>556257

CNC4 was shit. Like shittier than most fucking EA shit.

>>556371

> was shit

What lad? What was shit? Did you mistype or something?

>>556405

That's the one with the large crawlers rightt???

I apologize I used the Chinese acronym :/

>>556500

most /v/ fans of the series pretend there is no fourth game to the point where they will actually pretend they don't know what you're talking about

Large crawlers? never seen any large crawlers even in the last game they ever made friend. not sure what acronym you're talking about.

Just consider c&c4 as a A.I simulation of what could be or CABAL had a fever dream.

>>556877

>he likes nukes

You should try out the Contra mod for Generals. It does some hilarious stuff in terms of game balance, for better or worse. Nuke General has no defensive structures, but nuclear-armed infantry and vehicles. You can also build a Hadron Collider structure that starts counting down from 5 minutes the instant it's completed. If it's not destroyed (it can't be sold), the blast will take out a quarter of a medium sized map. The idea is to sneakily build one near the enemy's base while they're not looking.

>>557033

Now that's "electroshock therapy"

>Please tell me someone still remembers RA2

>>557280

Yuri's Revenge was my primary C&C for years.

Nobody here but us trees.

>>554835

Need that OST

Do anyone want the nod to be real?

>>558403

I think it's a Tib Sun CD repack or the Yuri's Revenge Moon mission track remix.

>>555063

i always thought rocket buggies and technicals were the coolest

>>558585

Looking better.

>>557430

Natural Sanctuary?? :^)

in Hollywood and Vain. Oh gods the gun toting actors who gun down everyone better than rank 3 Tanya/Boris/seals

Still this is my fav, Got my shovel right here! I remember ranking a bunch of kiked (((liberated))) slaves to vet somehow roflstomping the enemy team….

>Westwood still got pretty real with the bomb truck being Libyan outa all things.

>>558749

>>558728

I should mention that I'm not >>558388, but I'll create another design with the scorpion tail.

I guess I can also post a version with a serif font like you have in your version, although I personally don't think it fits the best with the theme.

>>558752

I chose that font to fit with the specific design on that flag rather than to fit with Bo/k/ entirely. now im wondering if the lettering could modify the border of the shield though, like an inscription.

>>558757

First version works best, the thinner fonts in the other two don't fit with the scorpion tail as well.

>>558757

>>558760

Lovely.

So how do we go about manufacturing Brotherhood of /k/ patches?

>>559212

https://www.thestudio.com/custom-patches/