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>>551943

>>551942

Seems overly complicated and too much of a compromise tbh. I think you would be better off splitting your ideas off into a rifle grenade and a mortar bomb, with both being hand throwable. An effective bomb for a commando mortar is simply too heavy to be a good rifle or hand grenade, especially with what passes as a rifle stock in the West these days. A mortar bomb is subjected to a fair amount of force from the shock of firing and engaging the rifling in the tube, these gives you a minimum thickness for the walls of the bomb. This doesn't really apply to the same extent for a hand or rifle grenade so the mortar capability is going to give you poor rifle grenade performance as the latter doesn't need to be as heavily built. The tiny diameter is also going to be pathetic in a mortar. Maybe:

>50-70mm mortar, may be fitted with 'powder column' for use in a recoilless rifle.

<30-45mm rifle grenade that happens to be hand throwable

t. Not a knower

>>551965

drunkenly

>>551970

Me too tbh

And his halo autism

You can have all this in one package, with change platforms just by screwing in a few accessories.

1. Hand grenade offensive, stick or bolo to launch it far enough.

2. Hand grenade defensive, plastic casing, mostly explosive.

3. Rifle grenade anti tank, bullet captive, then using a solid rocket to spin it up and extend range.

4. Rifle grenade anti personnel, just a simple fragmentary.

5. Rifle grenade thermobaric, for defeating structures.

6. Rifle grenade smoke, the most important one really, since it gives you stealth®

7. Land mine, leaping. Would be very effective.

8. Mortar shell fragmentation.

9. Mortar shell smoke.

10. Mortar shell with 5x small toe-popper landmine submunitions.

11. Recoilless rifle caseless ammo.

12. Small portable MLRS ammo.

13. UCAV ammo. Small drones need an explosive beyond-cover kill ability, right now they use 40mm ammo from M203, which is pathetic.

Let's say 50mm which is a good human grip diameter, at a L/5 caliber of a bit less than 250mm. That's between a modern 60mm and 80mm mortar worth of explosives and shrapnel, just trading length for width so it can fit a human hand easier.

>>551978

It has no flash or noise so the enemy can't tell where he's being shot from.

>>552760

That pic is the barely scratching the surface I can write a fucking book about the mismanagement of the French military in the interwar.

The 1922 to 1938 period in France is exactly the same as what European defense look like since 1991.

>>552760

>Do you happen to know how the fuze would have been armed?

No clue.

But on the normal ones the bullet hit a striker which hit a percussion cap to start the fuse (second pic).

It wouldn't be hard to devise something to do the job (including simply rotating the screwable fuze by 45° and hitting it with/against something hard, which sounds exactly like french WWI tech).

The fuze were a bit long but by having to operate the fuze cap manually you would probably add the couple of seconds before the throw to get it to 5-6s instead of 7-8s.

>>552774

>The 1922 to 1938 period in France is exactly the same as what European defense look like since 1991.

Was it because the governments were too leftists to spend money on defence, and instead wasted it on welfare?

>including simply rotating the screwable fuze by 45° and hitting it with/against something hard, which sounds exactly like french WWI tech

I can see that working. My idea was to have a movable rod in the handle that goes to the bullet channel, and the other end of the rod is peeking out from the handle. To arm the grenade you'd have to whack the bottom of the handle against a hard surface, because that would push the rod upwards just enough to arm the fuze.

>>552778

>Was it because the governments were too leftists to spend money on defence, and instead wasted it on welfare?

It's was a mix of pork barrels, leftist gibs and cuts, the worst a parliamentary system had to offer (in between 1922 and 1940 France had 40 governments, about a change in government every 5 months and change) and a global lack of vision by the politicians (and not the military leaders as it is often said).

>>552760

>>552774

>>552778

>>552898

Write that book anon, thats sounds absolutely fascinating.

>>552774

can I ask why it is that the modern nationalist right in france puts petain on a pedestal? I realize that most of france takes ideological lineage from degaulle (who is responsible for the nigging of france by way of making algeria et al french citizens) and they oppose that, but what is there positive to say about petain post ww1?

>>552913

seconding

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2018/02/19/improvised-rifle-mounted-autocannon-bullet-launcher/

https://archive.fo/bP3cD

I'm not sure what to think of it.