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There's no discharge in the war!

File: 402d36b0402b091⋯.png (99.89 KB, 900x703, 900:703, 343a7d433f279bff1e9ace22ef….png)

d77646 No.550976

ITT we decide between a /military map general/ or a /battle plan(ning) general/ and then create it

basic things to input ITT:

>resources for maps and topography

>infographics

>terminology

>map keys/legends

>map examples

also this thread is for the general discussion of military and topographical map

d77646 No.550978

File: 4ed47a25be1a5c6⋯.jpg (64.29 KB, 300x680, 15:34, symbols.jpg)

here is an example of symbols which could be seen in military maps


42cc4f No.550979

Here is a good introduction: https://hooktube.com/watch?v=YgLU5ncAE9M


be6734 No.550983


fa1cb1 No.550987

>doing the government's just for them

Cheeki


d77646 No.550989

>>550987

>implying

maps are just as key to military discussion as any panzer or gewehr is


be6734 No.551049

More Resources

USGS topographical map Symbols

https://pubs.usgs.gov/gip/TopographicMapSymbols/topomapsymbols.pdf

Site with world wide topo map compared to satellite map.

http://www.hillmap.com/

Vietnam War Tactical Pilotage Maps (only 2)

https://catalog.archives.gov/id/6104985

A lot of maps

http://legacy.lib.utexas.edu/maps/

How should this thread work? Should we just have people bring up war plans and what they thought was right/wrong with them or should it be more of a creative thing where the OP comes up with war scenario and the streloks come up with ways to invade that country.

The second would be very involved we'd need to look into where the countries military bases are and points of interest and what kind of supplies/equipment we would need and the capabilities of the forces at war.


d77646 No.551087

>>551049

both of those seem like very promising propositions, we could probably have both in the same thread, one for historical discussion and the other for theoretical discussion/fun


303787 No.551115

>>551049

>>551087

Hell maybe we could even do war gaming ffs on a tactical scale :).\

I have no life and I play Hearts of Iron III with the HPP mod soooo


42cc4f No.551122

File: 028e0eb72336350⋯.jpg (775.96 KB, 1657x1200, 1657:1200, carpathian_basin.jpg)

File: dc397afe5d32cfe⋯.jpg (145.39 KB, 853x597, 853:597, carpathian_basin2.jpg)

If you need a scenario, how about staging an invasion of Western Europe from the Carpathian Basin? Europe has a nice variety of mountain ranges and flatlands, and both world wars were fought here. Of course, we should use fictional forces on a real map.


d77646 No.551233

>>551115

perhaps a /wgg/ war games general? we could study different countries and their military capabilities and match them up against likely opponents. and even include modifiers like circumstances, politics, technology, etc


3b25eb No.551279

http://www.mytopo.com/

Use it frequently myself. Might not be exactly what you're looking for but its a decent resource.


9766ba No.551303

File: 84c096521256118⋯.pdf (1.68 MB, The War Game (English Krie….pdf)

>>551115

Have you ever looked into Gary Grigsby's War in the East? There's a computer game version available.


303787 No.551317

>>551233

Yes this. I'm a coder not a decent one but w/e and one of my dreams was to make a sim where one could easily add modifiers to units for combat in tactical, opertational and if I ever finish learning assembly strategic levels. Imagine the chaos.

>>551303

I have. I'm split between wanting to support the devs because muh realisim is a meme and they seem to take it serriously. On the other hand the kikery is real.

>>551122

I think we should if we do is this sim start from rather simple warfare (eg;Non firearms) and work our way up to firearms combat. Not sure how to do the modeling but I'll go find lancaster's laws and see if we can't run one with that.


9e20f7 No.551348

I've recently been thinking about starting patrol operations in the Big Bend area of the Tex/Mex border. Might post some maps up this weekend.


be6734 No.551401

File: 2047e3154799f51⋯.png (2.82 MB, 1003x1541, 1003:1541, ClipboardImage.png)

File: 4597566c8881a14⋯.png (2.54 MB, 1014x1184, 507:592, ClipboardImage.png)

File: 6e104df0545c17e⋯.png (386.89 KB, 611x508, 611:508, Carpathian Basin Countries.PNG)

>>551122

>>551317

In the Carpathian Basin region during the middle ages we have a group known as "Avars" that made themselves a little empire. The group was a nomadic people and had won some wars against their neighboring barbarians, destroying the Gepids, pillaging the Sclavenes and sacked some byzantine Balkan territories, but were eventually conquered by the franks.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avar_Khaganate

first pic

Closer to modern day Carpathian Basin has a few countries' borders going through it.

second pic

Hungary has some interesting history to put into a war scenario, it was the first country to break through the iron curtain and allow people to flee to Austria and then to west Germany, after that the government voted to create multi-party elections and direct presidential elections which were won by anti-communist parties. What if the other soviet states were inclined to prevent this from happening, as per the Brezhev Doctrine?


2080b4 No.551425

>>550976

i would simply ship millions of niggers to canada, canadians will handle all the logistics of resettlement, wait 20 years, then march into mordor and turn off the gibs, thus starving the degenerated goblins and leaving canada entirely depopulated. war on the cheap.


303787 No.551799

>>551401

If you willing to help me search up numbers and politics atm I would be able to help you war game this. We need 3 people minimum.


d77646 No.551835

>>551799

i would like free early access and a free copy of the game on a disk and steam

>t. op

>inb4 op is fgt


be6734 No.551875

>>551799

What numbers do you need?


303787 No.551879

>>551835

I'm doing a hand sim first. Then I'll decide if I wanna be Toady level autist with the game.

>>551875

Depends on era. Mainly the level of capable men, armed forces weaponry (if modern), and general population figures.


d77646 No.551898

>>551879

another few features could be elevation, hill/mountain incline, rivers, infastructure, things like that


be6734 No.552000

>>551879

~1990 Hungary

10,568,686 Total population

~100,000 in Army

64,000 were conscripts

77% of Army was ground forces

1,200 T-54 and T-55 tanks

100 Soviet made T-72's

artillery included 225 M-1938 122 mm and 50 M-1943 or D-1 howitzers

90 2S1 122mm and 20 2S3 152mm self propelled guns

Small arms were pretty much copies of Russian guns or Russian guns.

The Avars didn't leave many writings behind so finding numbers is difficult.

~6th century Avar khanganate

~80,000 warriors (made up of multiple subjugated tribes)

20,000 horsemen (mostly heavily armored)

Had some eastern style siege weapons.


303787 No.553465

>>551898

Yes. Not sure how to factor that in. Perhaps a %damage buff?

>>552000

Thanks. I gotta finish my shit for HS graduation bother other wise I'm fine.


1f3704 No.564385

test




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